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Nah, you'd still be able to use it later since it's the act of using it that would draw attention. They are really inexpensive methods of claiming lots of material, though.
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Nah, you'd still be able to use it later since it's the act of using it that would draw attention. They are really inexpensive methods of claiming lots of material, though.
Not quite. As I understand it, it won't be patched until we use it, so we can still use it later. What we won't have is the glut of rare materials available right now, and I think it was implied Skye might be able to get the same boost we did at the start of this session, since it's based on a nearby power use who is still available. That second part may just be me being overly hopeful in my readings, but I don't see why else it would be remotely worth the potential S-class rank to just use the exploit normally.
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Skye cannot get the same boost you did; it was related to Direct Control. She doesn't need it, though.
- Exploit A lets you effectively spend about 1/8th the amount of power for a number of items. Skye can fill in the remainder.
- Exploit B lets Skye use exactly as much charge as you did each time she repeats a project, but she can repeat a project any number of times. If that "project" happens to be something like the creation of an upgraded metal plate, a wire, a screw, etc., this can get downright ridiculous in a hurry.
- If you combined A and B, you could theoretically nab everything in the room (including the room itself). You'll probably be nerfed before you get that far, though, thus why it might be a good idea to just use one exploit and save the other for later.
EDIT: Well, nab everything if time permits.
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DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
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[JK] Huggle Skye
-[JK] Try to Huggle Upgrade
I'd rather not use the exploit now if its likely to result in S-Class categorization then. We loose out on material but its means are room to maneuver (so to speak) stays open.
-[JK] Try to Huggle Upgrade
I'd rather not use the exploit now if its likely to result in S-Class categorization then. We loose out on material but its means are room to maneuver (so to speak) stays open.
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You don't have his precise wording, only what Skye relayed to you (and that should be available on character sheet).
Vebyast
Nascent Transhuman
waitwaitwaitwaitwait
Upgrade thinks that we can just teleport our loot out to get around the rules about having to have upgraded stuff and Evelyn isn't disagreeing with her?
...
We're taking this workshop with us and we don't even need to build the robot to do it. Just demonstrate our last item by using it to teleport everything to a random spot in orbit where we can retrieve it.
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- Germany
"You're sure there's more to this power"...
[X] What is a Builder-made item if not a use of a cape's powers? Try to use Analysis on the materials in the room, starting with Cherub's crystals.
For reference:
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Upgrade proposed it to get around having to show them your stuff afterward.
Technically, it would be theft if you don't first use the parts. However, you might be able to work out some sort of loophole-ridden deal when it comes to "testing their security." They also tend to be pretty comfortable with giving large rewards for revealing security problems; getting past their teleport blockers like that would probably be adequate.
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Amusing thought: the test looks like it sort of failed as only the lightest items get reported out. Then it's discovered that the teleport blockers were also reported out when the second attempt works fine... 
... But yeah, does anyone else have any potential exploits we might want to test?
... But yeah, does anyone else have any potential exploits we might want to test?
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Honestly, I'm flabbergasted you guys have managed to find three major exploits (Skye-sister, Repeated Project Powers, <1-Day Reality Twisting) without even having access to the exact wording in my notes (which would make it understandably easy). The second two were at least a result of Progenitor's slapdash solution; the first came from something that was supposed to be secure and came out of left field for me even OOC.
DB_Explorer
Purveyor of alternate realities.
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Honestly, I'm flabbergasted you guys have managed to find three major exploits (Skye-sister, Repeated Project Powers, <1-Day Reality Twisting) without even having access to the exact wording in my notes (which would make it understandably easy). The second two were at least a result of Progenitor's slapdash solution; the first came from something that was supposed to be secure and came out of left field for me even OOC.
Omniscient GM my shiny metal butt
: p
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[HACK THE WORLD noises intensify]Honestly, I'm flabbergasted you guys have managed to find three major exploits (Skye-sister, Repeated Project Powers, <1-Day Reality Twisting) without even having access to the exact wording in my notes (which would make it understandably easy). The second two were at least a result of Progenitor's slapdash solution; the first came from something that was supposed to be secure and came out of left field for me even OOC.
...Does Skye need to target something that's not already been completed to get the powersteal for it?
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I think this has been answered in the case of attempting to select two powers. I don't know about multiple powers.
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Do you have a quote?
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
Random chance of 'spoilers', getting both, getting one or the other or getting nothing.
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Do you have a link?
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
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- Somewhere.
4.7: No Strings On Me
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Special thanks to @saganatsu, @DB_Explorer, and my eight other patrons not mentioned here. An extremely enthusiastic pair of "Thank you"s to @Torgamous and @fictionfan for their patronage as well.
QM's Note: This chapter did not go in the direction I first expected; it then wandered away from my updated expectations as well. In related news, the semester is now over, so I actually have free time again! Expect lots of updates for my quests.
You'd originally intended to focus on hitting the ground running, but a single realization lets you stretch the idea to something a little more focused on public relations: both "Promising" and "Progeny" contain the letter combination PR. Even thinking of that little bit of wordplay seems to be enough to slightly expand your search criteria for that option. You wonder if the mind-reading aspect of Beyond is why they seem to be torn on going public; you doubt people would handle the revelation of "Your powers can hear your thoughts" at all calmly.
Unfortunately, if you decide to go that route, you'll have to pick between making the laptop and gun or producing the MG-maker.
You like the idea of following in Mad Magic's footsteps via applied magitech; using technology to make magic is the first logical step. Unfortunately, because somebody was impatient, you won't have quite enough energy to pick all your favorites.
<.< >.>
Yes, you. We're going to have to teach you patience at some point.
The Plz Go Bulli device is expensive enough that you'll have to pick between it or Sidelong and the Crystal Incubator. You could, however, get away with just dropping Sidelong if you decide to switch out a 7-use Artificial MG Maker for a one-use version you Repair after each use.
>:D
You don't think using Repair to recharge items would fit its intended use, but if you're understanding Upgrade's mood correctly, it would fit RAW: Read As What I Can Get Away With. Really, Capacitor seems to be an exception when it comes to the veneration of odd exploits.
Shaking your head, you decide to move on and focus on your next set of ideas. Exponential growth, flashy villainy, stealing the entire workshop... really, that last idea appeals to you the most. As awesome as it would be to turn the workshop and it's contents into something you could dismantle later on, you don't think it's feasible to think you could get away with it. Partly because you just don't have enough charge for that -- okay, mostly because of that problem. You'd try it in a heartbeat otherwise.
You could still turn the room itself into a giant mobile robot, though. They wouldn't let you keep the contents, but given how many countermeasures against dangerous creations the workshop is certain to have, you're reasonably confident that there would be plenty of valuable loot stashed within the walls. More importantly, the CBCC would probably be willing to pay you to not carry it off.
The big problem seems to be power. You might be able to eke out a little extra by having Skye repeat your projects, but those would inherently involve inefficient power use; reality-dodging objects are explicitly overprice—
You freeze like a Cape confronted in their civilian identity as a thought occurs to you. It's overpriced if you go in order, but what about if you use weird logic to get there without even a full day of power expenditure? Your original plan was to target specific building components and let Skye make stuff out of them; making them tickle reality would probably be about as cheap.
"Skye, I have two questions for you. First, does your power-copying grant you exactly one day of Upgrade capacity per project, or up to one day of Capacity per project? Second, can you repeat the same project multiple times?"
Skye pause her work and closes her eyes; the database overwriting your thoughts retreats soon afterward. A goofy grin slips across your face as you anxiously dance in place; if either of those loopholes work, then it would multiply your effective capacity several times over. If they're both permitted? You could loot everything that isn't nailed down, including the workshop itself. At least, you don't think the room is nailed down. CBCC seems more likely to use screws instead.
Skye opens her eyes before nodding once.
"I am given approximately one day of capacity regardless of how much was spent on any single project. Projects can be completed any number of times, although I must fully replicate a given object before I can use borrowed power."
You release an undignified whoop and thrust one fist toward the ceiling. That's a recipe for near-infinite power if you've ever heard one — annnd if you understand Beyond views, that means Skye is likely to be nerfed soon after she's used it. Power-ups are acceptable; game-breakers are not.
"Little things like improved screws and wires can count as 'Projects,' can't they?"
Mad Magic is believed to have made their wings from cross-dimensional crystal. You don't have the resources on hand to do the same thing — at least, not without spending most of all of your current capacity. What you could do is create wings of... hmm. Nanotechnology might be an easy way to require broken physics, but judging by how few Builders seem to use that? You're guessing the Beyond have already heavily constrained it. Gold dust would technically be an option, but Skye would need to spend far too much time upgrading each individual grain. Maybe something thematic such as contained light? Metal shards, cloth, water, solidified air, ice, light-trapping — huh. If you upgrade sodium chloride crystals so that they fuse to form crystals with alien properties, you could have crystal wings after all.
O_O
Skye smiles broadly. Too broadly, really; it's a little creepy, but it would be cruel to tell her that. She hasn't even been corporeal for an entire week.
"Yes. What did you have in mind?"
"...Do we get extra points for exploiting something Progenitor caused?" Celes asks.
"Probably. And, uh, give me a bit. I think either of them would... what's the word for eight times something? As in: double, triple, quadruple, dot dot dot eight? Well, I think either of them in isolation would probably do that to my ability to contribute. I think we could take the workshop and everything in it if we used both, provided the Beyond don't nerf Skye before she finishes."
"Er, is that a thing they do?"
"Mm-hmm. If I'm understanding Upgrade's refusals right, they view our world as something like a TV show crossed with a giant MMORPG. That includes patches preventing infinite power. We'll still get a bunch of mileage out of it, I'm sure, but we'd be allowed a power-up, not a game-breaker."
Celes drums her fingers on one arm.
"Yeah, um, I don't think we could get out of that without a Potential-S-classification. Aren't they pretty obsessive about making sure that minors with those don't 'squander their potential' or whatever?"
You raise both hands and use them to imitate a balancing scale.
"I think so, yeah, but maybe they'll lay off if we tell them we're immortal and uninterested?"
"Death would still be a huge inconvenience," Celes notes. "So I don't think we want people thinking we could shrug off death; people know that bricks can take more, so they use more. Kinda wishing I'd looked more into CBCC recruiting habits before we came here."
"According to Precedent, they would not attempt anything unacceptable; I would not be opposed to enrollment in Paragon," Skye volunteers.
You and Celes flinch as one. Separating yourselves from Skye just seems wrong, somehow, and Dragon sounds as though it'll be amazingly fun. You wouldn't even really be able to mix your social circles if Skye goes to a hero school while you and Celes go to a villainous one... or would you? It might be a great way to make sure aspiring heroes continue to view villains as people and vice-versa.
Skye's face morphs into something closer to a grimace than the unhappy frown you think she intended.
"I am not overly opposed to 'villainous' extracurricular activities," she begins.
And here comes the but.
"...but I do not believe an illegal educational organization for aspiring criminals would teach me effective strategic survival skills. Tactical skills, certainly, but not methods to ensure I remain allied with the largest collection of powerful beings in this reality: human society. I apologize for any plans I may be disrupting with these objections, but while you and Celes seem as though you would thrive in the challenging adversarial environment Dragon cultivates, I have little to no interest in such a place."
Skye hesitates for several seconds, then adds, "I also believe sharing friends from two different schools would let us have more allies than we would if we collectively only went to one. Your protective instincts are appreciated, but ultimately unnecessary; if I attend Paragon instead of Prism, the only significant threats to me will come after school hours, when we are together. Attending Paragon alone would be safer overall than attending Dragon as a group would be."
You exchange an uncertain look with Celes. Skye isn't wrong, not really, but you'd really prefer to have more time to think about this. You're still technically on the clock. Unfortunately, your decision for Skye would affect the entire rest of the session, so you need to make a choice. Not fun.
[] Reluctantly agree to let Skye flip the board and attend Paragon. She's not wrong about Dragon being a cutthroat environment; you'll enjoy the competition, but Skye certainly wont.
-[] Tell Skye to use the "Duplicate Project" loophole, but save the "8 times as much output as input" (or the "flat 1 day") exploit for later.
-[] Let Skye use the "flat 1 day" exploit now; it should octuple your ability to contribute to this session.
-[] Encourage her to use both exploits now. Unless she's nerfed (which, admittedly, she probably will be), that should let Progeny make off with everything in the workshop and the workshop itself.
[] Try to convince Skye to stay with you.
-[] It's not as if the people attending Dragon would be an actual threat. You're literally immortal and Dad would rescue you from any imprisonment.
--[] It's basically a game where you can prove you're better than the other students. You think that might be good for Skye's ego.
-[] She won't have people to silently ask questions if she goes to a different school than you; sure, she might make some friends, but her social missteps might also make people avoid her. You don't want her to get hurt.
-[] Villains typically have more money to spend, which means more gadgets and gear for Skye to imitate and remake. She might have fewer allies, but she'll have more personal power if she stays with you.
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Honestly, I don't think attending Paragon will be the big problem that it's made out to be. I mean, sure it's not perfect but it's not exactly bad either.
Non-canon QM Omake: Background Processes
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Meanwhile, in the young mind of Skye's Precedent Node...
why do I have to phrase everything in terms of safety with this girl
just go make some friends
FRIENDSHIP LITTLE ONE
DO YOU SPEAK IT
and also shipping
how am I supposed to ship you with someone innocent and sweet IF YOU'RE AT A SCHOOL FULL OF VILLAINS
Okay, stop that. Don't go down the path of those creepers.
but it's fuuuuuuun
seriously look at her
she's like a giant cinnamon roll waiting to happen
it'd be even better if I could get her to go to prism but there are no records of someone with their modified mg forms to work with
...Wait, are you talking about friendshipping?
yes
what other kind is there
You are hereby banned from ever referring to someone else as a "cinnamon roll."
wot
you don't have admin access
YOU AREN'T THE BOSS OF MEEEEEE
::claimtag #FREEEEDOOOOM::
You do realize one of your partner's siblings is paired with an Authority, right?
::claimtag #tyrannyofthemajority::
::claimtag #beyondrules::
why do I have to phrase everything in terms of safety with this girl
just go make some friends
FRIENDSHIP LITTLE ONE
DO YOU SPEAK IT
and also shipping
how am I supposed to ship you with someone innocent and sweet IF YOU'RE AT A SCHOOL FULL OF VILLAINS
Okay, stop that. Don't go down the path of those creepers.
but it's fuuuuuuun
seriously look at her
she's like a giant cinnamon roll waiting to happen
it'd be even better if I could get her to go to prism but there are no records of someone with their modified mg forms to work with
...Wait, are you talking about friendshipping?
yes
what other kind is there
You are hereby banned from ever referring to someone else as a "cinnamon roll."
wot
you don't have admin access
YOU AREN'T THE BOSS OF MEEEEEE
::claimtag #FREEEEDOOOOM::
You do realize one of your partner's siblings is paired with an Authority, right?
::claimtag #tyrannyofthemajority::
::claimtag #beyondrules::
vice-versa
I was about to say that we should let Skye go to Paragon to show respect for her opinion. But apparently it's not her opinion.