[X] [Experiment] Try an undirected upgrade on your eyes. Revert it and compare the results and cost with using the following logic: The purpose of eyes is to see things. They would be better at that if the entire retina had the same visual acuity as the core and the same low-light sensitivity as the periphery. Upgrade!

You get the feeling you could do this, but Upgrade would rather you leave the specifics to her when modifying your body.
The purpose behind this experiment was to determine if doing an Upgrade with a specified logic is easier/more efficient/more effective than an undirected Upgrade. What did we learn about that?
 
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[X][Experiment] See if we can target a computer file for any purpose.
-[X] See if we can Overdrive a file (on a flash drive! Don't risk our main hard disk on this).
--[X] See what happens if we copy the file we're overdriving while we're overdriving it. Use a small file.
 
Alright, I didn't want to do this, but grapeshot and paraphrased duplicate experimentation is why this update took so long in the first place. So, effective from this post onward, experimental votes must have a minimum of three votes to be done regardless of how much IC free time you have.
Have you considered limiting the amount of experimentation vote per voter instead?
 
I wonder if Analysis works on mundane stuff, like a car engine.

I think we can conclude that Upgrade could do anything, except it's following rules.
 
Upgrading scientific theories to a more true or more correct one would be neat.
Like getting a book on science and upgrading that to be as accurate and true to reality as possible and learning from it. It should edit out all the errors of wrong conclusions drawn from observations. I got the idea from the code correction. A science textbook that's the most correct, true, without any errors in it will do a better job at teaching the concepts in. The textbook's purpose is to transfer the most accurate information on reality, is it not?

Like upgrading homework. Hah. This is a good use of the power.

Be careful with that.

One could also argue that a science textbook's purpose is to easily teach people some concepts of science, even if introduces errors via oversimplication.
 
[X][Experiment] See if we can target a computer file for any purpose.
-[X] See if we can Overdrive a file (on a flash drive! Don't risk our main hard disk on this).
--[X] See what happens if we copy the file we're overdriving while we're overdriving it. Use a small file.
[X] [Experiment] Ask Upgrade about doing the list thing with Celest's and Mom and Dad's powers.
There is so much we can do with this sort of thing, that it's kind of scary.
I wonder if the millenium problems exist in this world?
[X] [Experiment] write P = NP, then 'it would be better if it is correct. Upgrade!'
Will probably edit in more as time goes on.
 
Have you considered limiting the amount of experimentation vote per voter instead?

I have, but I've always considered stuff like bribes for posting/wordcount, rewards tied to number of players, etc. to be cheating as a QM. The three-votes thing has the benefit of being possible with a low number of players while also ensuring people can't just toss up a wall of experiments nobody else bothers to read and they don't bother to reread for repeats.


The purpose behind this experiment was to determine if doing an Upgrade with a specified logic is easier/more efficient/more effective than an undirected Upgrade. What did we learn about that?

Technically, there was insufficient voting support for it to be pursued in the first place. (2 votes)

(Please don't make me write more experimental results right now. No, it isn't more efficient; think of it as a way to min/max or attain unusual goals.)
 
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I second this. I'd really actually get somewhere in this quest. The only Alivaril quest that got past the beginning stage is Ignition, as far as I'm aware.

Splintered, Revision (formerly Inversion), Partition got to the end of the starting phase, Abrogation got a teensie bit past it, Extrication was intended to be short and was one update from completion anyway. >W>

...*cough* But yes, going further in this would be good.
 
Be careful with that.

One could also argue that a science textbook's purpose is to easily teach people some concepts of science, even if introduces errors via oversimplication.
Seconded. General rules are useful for people unlikely to need to know the nitty-gritty of the underlying mechanics. You don't need to know everything about quantum physics if you're going into pharmaceutical chemistry, just because quantum physics is useful in other forms of chemistry, and is useful in understanding some reactions. Whereas, if you plan on playing around with Bose-Einstein condensates, time crystals, or sub-zero degree Kelvin atoms, you should probably know the relevant quantum physics.
 
Seconded. General rules are useful for people unlikely to need to know the nitty-gritty of the underlying mechanics. You don't need to know everything about quantum physics if you're going into pharmaceutical chemistry, just because quantum physics is useful in other forms of chemistry, and is useful in understanding some reactions. Whereas, if you plan on playing around with Bose-Einstein condensates, time crystals, or sub-zero degree Kelvin atoms, you should probably know the relevant quantum physics.
Course being unable to effectively communicate certain concepts without digressing into tangentally related concepts could be seen as a flaw in communication and teaching.
 
Interlude: Wyrm
The current Wyrm of the most infamous school for villains in the United States, Dragon, was not enjoying the start of his day. Yet another parent had sent in student applications for her children, decided rules were something that happened to other people, and demanded a meeting with Wyrm. He wished this was an uncommon occurrence.

As a general rule, the sorts of parents who'd send their children to Dragon tended to be scumbags, apathetic, terrified, morons, terrified morons, or simply utterly amoral. He wasn't sure which one Specter would fall under, but her demands indicated she could safely be assumed an idiot. Sending three siblings to school? Fantastic. Demanding that they be kept in the same course tracks despite their differing powersets? Absolutely moronic. Even the photos she'd attached had been little than than blackened silhouettes, something which was blatantly unacceptable.

Wyrm loved his job for most of the year — as far as he was concerned, villainy was simply a fun way to keep society from stagnating — but the quarterly inclusion of new students never ceased to be aggravating. Smarter parents tried to avoid meeting with him, understanding he could simply pluck hidden information from the depths of their minds. Dumber ones didn't bother gathering even such an ill-kept secret and came in entirely unprepared. The educated-but-foolish tried, and failed, to use various methods to block his access.

Speaking of which...

A new presence was briskly walking toward him, its mind blurred by some pathetic attempt at defense. He slid around the block with ease born from long and exasperating practice, looked "up," and froze.

Part of an incomprehensibly enormous and alien mind looked back at him, the comparatively small sliver radiating something akin to amused contempt. An accident of creation, an entity born from countless stars and planets being crushed into an evolving mind despite all odds. An abomination that kept eating and eating everything until it got bored, then decided to go out and see what else life had to offer.

A universe was a large place and the omniverse even bigger, Wyrm knew, but this was just...

I'm going to die.

This one's mine. Crawl home, little Wyrm, and perhaps I won't devour everything you hold dear.



Elspeth Adair slid back into the driver seat of her car less than five minutes after leaving it. Her husband, still wearing the human avatar she'd helped him build, grinned back at her.

"That was quick," her husband remarked cheerfully. "What, did you threaten him at gunpoint or something?"

Elspeth rolled her eyes and didn't even bother to respond. He knew very well why Wyrm had simply left a note saying "Granted." in somewhat shaky writing. It was nice, knowing her beloved could keep her private thoughts private — or that he would sooner devour the planet than let it truly hurt her, for that matter. She'd never admit that, but she knew he knew and that was enough for both of them. Avoiding such subjects was its own source of entertainment.

Elspeth vaguely wondered when they'd tell their children that their father had never been an actual mortal to begin with. Soon, perhaps; they'd seemed distinctly underwhelmed by the reveal of their own natures. If anything, they'd probably want to see him devour a few nebulae. She'd certainly thought the sight was beautiful back when they were first dating. And how many other men proposed using rings they'd formed from the hearts of former stars?
 
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She's right, that's indescribably romantic. I wish I was an eldritch abomination capable of such.
 
Wyrm loved his job for most of the year — as far as he was concerned, villainy was simply a fun way to keep society from stagnating — but the quarterly inclusion of new students never ceased to be aggravating. Smarter parents tried to avoid meeting with him, understanding he could simply pluck hidden information from the depths of their minds. Dumber ones didn't bother gathering even such an ill-kept secret and came in entirely unprepared. The educated-but-foolish tried, and failed, to use various methods to block his access.

A new presence made itself known and briskly walked toward him, its mind blurred by some pathetic attempt at defense. He slid around the block with ease born from long and exasperating practice, looked "up," and froze.

Part of an incomprehensibly enormous and alien mind looked back at him, the comparatively small sliver radiating something akin to amused contempt. An accident of creation, an entity born from countless stars and planets being crushed into an evolving mind despite all odds. An abomination that kept eating and eating everything until it got bored, then decided to go out and see what else life had to offer.

A universe was a large place and the omniverse even bigger, Wyrm knew, but this was just...

I'm going to die.

This one's mine. Crawl home, little Wyrm, and perhaps I won't devour everything you hold dear.
Well. Our dad is terrifying.
Elspeth Adair slid back into the driver seat of her car less than five minutes after leaving it. Her husband, still wearing the human avatar she'd helped him build, grinned back at her.

"That was quick," her husband remarked cheerfully. "What, did you threaten him at gunpoint or something?"

Elspeth rolled her eyes and didn't even bother to respond. He knew very well why Wyrm had simply left a note saying "Granted." in somewhat shaky writing. It was nice, knowing her beloved could keep her private thoughts private — or that he would sooner devour the planet than let it truly hurt her, for that matter. She'd never admit that, but she knew he knew and that was enough for both of them. Avoiding such subjects was its own source of entertainment.

Elspeth vaguely wondered when they'd tell their children that their father had never been an actual mortal to begin with. Soon, perhaps; they'd seemed distinctly underwhelmed by the reveal of their own natures. If anything, they'd probably want to see him devour a few nebulae. She'd certainly thought the sight was beautiful back when they were first dating. And how many other men proposed using rings they'd formed from the hearts of stars?
...This explains so much. So very much. Though it does make me wonder about our relatives and their powers. I'm guessing they're all on our mom's side.
 
So, yeah. You know how some people joke about certain family members eating so much they might as well be black holes? Wellllll...

I've been waiting to make this joke for years.
 
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