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Flandre's Quest (Touhou) World - (Madness Quest)

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So this is Yukari's attempt to present Flandre as a menace and Herakles as a danger to Gensokyo.

Hmm... Since her behavior during a SDM party reflects on Remilia, I think Flandre would want to appear neither weak nor brutish & vindictive. That means attacking a guest, perma-ban, and retreat are disadvised.

In a serious battle, Flandre and Herakles could both wipe the floor with Yuuka, but a trivial victory would only support Yukari's position that we need to be dealt with.
On the other hand, part of our political power stems from fear of Flandre going on a second rampage, so we can't let her implied insults stand.

Not sure whether it's the best choice, but unless someone has a better argument, I'll go for "You have overstayed your welcome."

[X] She's not supposed to be out here, and she's been very provocative. Have her removed from the mansion.

@Entropy Judge: What type of duel would it be (danmaku, sparring, all-out), and is the challenge specifically for Berserker?
 
veekie said:
Well...she can take it
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Problem is.... She could win, too.

If it were a fight, it'd be stopped by the others, and even if Flan uses eye kyuu, with Yuuka's twinning I think she could take it.

If danmaku duel, well, Yuuka's far more experienced than Flan. She even has Protag Power, from LLS, since Entropy's using PC-98 stuff.

[X] She's not supposed to be out here, and she's been very provocative. Have her removed from the mansion.

It's a shame, because Yuuka's also my favorite Touhou character, moreso than even Flan or Okuu... I kinda wish she could have gotten along via finding some common ground, but that would have needed a good opportunity. Yuuka's picking a fight, and Flan will hold a grudge, so that's not likely here... :(
 
One the one hand, it's a chance for Flandre to fight the Ultimate Sadistic Creature. On the other hand. It's a fight with the Ultimate Sadistic Creature.

Like, this is a fight Flan would have loved to have got into earlier in the quest. But its going to be a bloody one. Win or lose, I don't think Flan's friends would appreciate seeing her get torn to pieces.
 
Nachtigall said:
Hmm... Since her behavior during a SDM party reflects on Remilia, I think Flandre would want to appear neither weak nor brutish & vindictive. That means attacking a guest, perma-ban, and retreat are disadvised.

In a serious battle, Flandre and Herakles could both wipe the floor with Yuuka, but a trivial victory would only support Yukari's position that we need to be dealt with.
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As far as behavior reflection goes, retreating is actually not a bad one, considering it's Flan and Yuuka. 'Everyone knows' that Flan's an unstable murderer, after all, so if she's backing down from a fight - one in which she's clearly being provoked - then it's going to get people asking a lot of questions. Especially since it's Flan and Yuuka, and everyone knows that both of them are incredibly destructive combatants.

As far as a fight goes - Flan against Yuuka is biased in Yuuka's favor. More importantly, none of the standard options involve Lulu, Ilya, or even Satsuki. I'll also point out that involving Berserker, unless you want to specifically set up a Berserker vs Yuuka fight, will involve Ilya as well.

@Entropy Judge: What type of duel would it be (danmaku, sparring, all-out), and is the challenge specifically for Berserker?
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All listed combats are real fights between Flan and Yuuka, with the only caveat being that Flan will try to avoid killing Yuuka. As she has so far held herself back from actually attacking anyone, killing her would be problematic from a political perspective.
 
ultima333 said:
Problem is.... She could win, too.

If it were a fight, it'd be stopped by the others, and even if Flan uses eye kyuu, with Yuuka's twinning I think she could take it.

If danmaku duel, well, Yuuka's far more experienced than Flan. She even has Protag Power, from LLS, since Entropy's using PC-98 stuff.

[X] She's not supposed to be out here, and she's been very provocative. Have her removed from the mansion.

It's a shame, because Yuuka's also my favorite Touhou character, moreso than even Flan or Okuu... I kinda wish she could have gotten along via finding some common ground, but that would have needed a good opportunity. Yuuka's picking a fight, and Flan will hold a grudge, so that's not likely here... :(
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I'm not really seeing losing a duel being a problem? It demonstrates we're willing to play ball by Gensokyo rules
 
I want Satsuki to danmaku duel Yuuka so bad.

SO. BAD.

Because of Depletion Garden.

Unfortunately, she's A. not good enough at danmaku yet, and B. not mature enough as a Dead Apostle to invoke that power without more or less going berserk - unless I am sorely misremembering details.
 
[X] She's not supposed to be out here, and she's been very provocative. Have her removed from the mansion.
 
Well, work was moderately miserable, so I'm gonna say things until I run out of things to say while listening to Hamster on a Piano (Eating Popcorn). That last sentence, thought.

[ ] You've had it with a lot of things right now. Attack Yuuka.
- [ ] Hold nothing back.

[ ] Enough is enough. If she wants a fight, she can have one.
- [ ] Judicial duel.
- [ ] Private duel.

[ ] She's not supposed to be out here, and she's been very provocative. Have her removed from the mansion.
- [ ] Ban her permanently.

[ ] … Just turn around and leave with your friends.
- [ ] Go to your room.
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So, attacking Yuuka right off is the choice most likely to let Flan 'win' a fight against her - particularly if she brings her clones in and uses Laevateinn. Of course, that option is the one most likely to result in an intervention by anyone interested in the back yard of the SDM suddenly exploding into violence. On the other hand, giving Yuuka a duel has very different sub-choices: a private duel, much like attacking her outright, is going to result in people coming to see what's going on, but since it's being agreed to by both parties, there probably won't be any interruptions. A judicial duel, however, is deliberately letting people know that something's up and getting Remilia to oversee the duel; regardless of the outcome, Yuuka is probably going to get embarrassed.

Tossing Yuuka out is going to embarrass her, too, because said tossing-out will be both public and involve the reason for having to leave (being insulting and threatening at a party?); perma-banning her would be a huge humiliation, and would definitely get other factions in Gensokyo very interested in what's going on. Having her thrown out would likely impress the Mid-Childans, seeing as they know Flan is quite willing to resort to violence at the drop of a hat.

Leaving entirely is the quiet option, although the Mid-Childans will, again, likely be impressed at Flan's self-control, but will likely have a rather detrimental effect on Flan's emotions, considering the shocks she's already received tonight.

ultima333 said:
It's a shame, because Yuuka's also my favorite Touhou character, moreso than even Flan or Okuu... I kinda wish she could have gotten along via finding some common ground, but that would have needed a good opportunity. Yuuka's picking a fight, and Flan will hold a grudge, so that's not likely here... :(
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Do remember that Yuuka's first appearance involved her saying she wished she'd gotten a chance to kill Remilia.

Golden Lark said:
I want Satsuki to danmaku duel Yuuka so bad.
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Satsuki can't Danmaku and can't fly. :( As far as DG goes, Quest Canon it's biggest drawback is actually its power requirement - she can use it without being berserk, but she's not enough of a hemovore to have the energy to use it under normal circumstances, so normally she's going to fall over right after using it. (Maintaining a Reality Marble is easier in Gensokyo, since it's not trying to tear it down like in Nasuverse, but establishing it is still energy-intensive, and she's not comfortable using it.)
 
Entropy Judge said:
A judicial duel, however, is deliberately letting people know that something's up and getting Remilia to oversee the duel; regardless of the outcome, Yuuka is probably going to get embarrassed.
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Thats kind of the objective so yay.
Basically, Yuuka sneaking up back to embarass the host and being very politely shown what she's doing is a pretty elegant way to deal with the issue.


And it shows Flan being a good Touhou and using spellcards instead of ultraviolence, defanging the "flan is a menace" rumors
 
Entropy Judge said:
Do remember that Yuuka's first appearance involved her saying she wished she'd gotten a chance to kill Remilia.
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I mean yeah, Yuuka is a violent person, who genuinely enjoys fighting and killing. But that doesn't mean they couldn't have gotten along somehow, like Flan and Yuuka causing mayhem together. Yuuka is quite capable of befriending people (as seen even here with Mima), but it takes a chance encounter going well. Either earning her respect, or striking her fancy like Medicine.

Hrm. Maybe if Yuuka somehow got flung into a portal and met up with Flandre, and either knew that Flan was her ticket back to Gensokyo or if there were someone else who'd be a more promising fight than Flan herself.

Two terrific touhous, teaming up for terror...
A guy can dream.
 
Maybe tack on a little power play by asking Illya to have Berserker 'guide' (read: drag with A+ rank strength) her from the grounds? :evil:
 
Nachtigall said:
Maybe tack on a little power play by asking Illya to have Berserker 'guide' (read: drag with A+ rank strength) her from the grounds? :evil:
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Ummm

Yuuka is stronger than most oni. Shes one of the top players in Touhou in terms of power and strength.

I suspect that Herc would be the one getting dragged around instead. Maybe Heroic Spirit Herc could do it, but servant.... I don't like his odds.
 
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