That's because Time Alter is a mystery, not Reality Marble, although most RMs starts as Mysteries first. Simple Tracing is just a spell, even materialisation of the swords Shirou and Archer do is just a Mystery. The true power of the UBW is ability to store the blueprints of the weapons Shirou used Structural Analysis on, not the Materialisation itself. Remember? Shirou can Materialise other things sans weapons, but on lover quality because he lacks blueprints of, say, a blanket. He still can made one but it will be low quality and he can not Materialise something like Rin's Mystic Codes without REALLY learning how they work and Analyse them over and over first. With Swords, he can - BECAUSE of UBW. He has their blueprints, down to every spell, blessing and curse the swords carry.
UBW also makes the weapons and the act of pulling them out costs prana in addition to the upkeep against the world, that's why when UBW it externalized they can trace anything without cost, because there is no need to pay the cost for pulling them out or the upkeep.
Shirous gradation air is also far above average for magi because that, structural analysis and reinforcement are literally the only magecraft he can do.
 
However, would the A-M of Satuski be a lot more powerful than your standard AMF Battalion? That is the question, but considering the fact that it hindered flandre, the answer is most likely yes, Correct? If so, we could potentially use it against mages.

-----------Questions that have to be answered------------​

  1. So this is the vivid timeline, then? Or is it force? If it is Force, lets neutralize the Hucklebeins.
  2. Is Mid Childian Magi-teck depleted by an RM? It isn't fully magic, as it works by code, but If it does, by how much?
  3. Is there any mage in nanoha that could defeat berserker, other than extreme long range Halvatar bombardment from Hayate, (But only because of how far away it would be)
  4. Are there more Vampires in Mid Childa, And are the vampires that Remilia hired from Mid Childa or from Gensokyo?
  5. if the last answer is yes, is there a wanna-be Millennium group causing problems for TSAB? If so, Why don't we become a wanna-be Hellsing Group instead.....
  6. Are we still in friendly terms with the main characters and the rest of the mage forces? Chances are that our relation heavily lowered due to our inter-franchise escape could be misinterpreted as desertion, and we will have to explain ourselves because of it. However, I do feel like Agito and Lutecia would at least try or would have tried to explain.
  7. Is the outcome any different of how it previously occurred? When we get there, we might have to ask questions about what happend. Who knows, maybe Vampires have taken over or something.
  8. If we end up in vivid, let us hunt the mind reader down, kill and torture him and then consume him to cover up our secrets, and then Join the fluffiest part in the series! the tournament, Yay! :lol
  9. If we end up in force, Does the Hucklebeins' A-M/Diver Field inhibit us as well?
 
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Selected Answers!

So this is the vivid timeline, then? Or is it force?
No.

Is there any mage in nanoha that could defeat berserker, other than extreme long range Halvatar bombardment from Hayate, (But only because of how far away it would be)
Yes. (Several, for given values of 'defeat Berserker.')

And are the vampires that Remilia hired from Mid Childa or from Gensokyo?
No.
 
Are there more Vampires in Mid Childa, And are the vampires that Remilia hired from Mid Childa or from Gensokyo?

I think I can answer this one.

There is/was a vampire on MidChilda created by some idiot, using Flandre's blood. He is what Dead Apostles are in relation to True Ancestor when compared to Flandre and Remilia. The Vampires Remilia hired are called Shif - they are artificial Vampires/hybrids made from blood of a Genestealers called Chiropterans - magicless race of ancient creatures with hive society. Chiropterans naturally live in clans consisting of a Queen of the Hive, several warrior-like males called Chevaliers and numerous drones, monstrous creatures made from Chevalier's blood. Blood of other Queens is toxic to the Queen and her "children" but the Queen also needs Chevaliers of not her blood to mate with and have children with - always females, new Queens. Although they looked like monstrous saurian bats at first, when young Queen absorbed human blood, she morphed into copy of humans. Chevaliers and Drones were humans originally, transformed by infusion of Chiropteran blood, but only Chevaliers remain in control. Drones are either controlled by the Queen, or - in her absence - turns into monsters resembling their original species and went on rampage, hungering for blood. (Chevaliers can morph as well, but they control it).
Shif are product of Diva's Chevalier's experiments. They can't morph like normal Drones, and don't go berserker but their own blood is unstable and will kill them. (I personally think they carry small amount of Saya's blood in their veins and the blood is killing the originally Diva's Drones they were once.) Remilia stole some blood from Diva, explained the truth to Shifs and stabilised them with the stolen blood. Shif resemble classical vampires - they are weakened by the Sun and vulnerable to fire for example, so they are nocturnal. They are monstrously strong though. Diva's pet scientists used them later in canon to produce cloned soldiers able to fight and kill Drones but under Diva's control.
 
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I am speculating that some other villain guy is trying to mass produce vampires. That would make for an interesting plot line.

Totally not used before
Mass produced space nazi vampires that burst into flames when caught?
Or just experimental vampires that go out of control and kill everyone inside the laboratory complex followed by a team of heroes cleaning the whole thing up?
Or maybe a secret research station inside a city where they are supposed to be mass produced only to run out of control, take over the entire city with only a single survivor who escapes only to see the city getting annihilated by a nuclear bomb?

I could probably come up with quite a few more but those should be enough for now.
 
Mass produced space nazi vampires that burst into flames when caught?
Or just experimental vampires that go out of control and kill everyone inside the laboratory complex followed by a team of heroes cleaning the whole thing up?
Or maybe a secret research station inside a city where they are supposed to be mass produced only to run out of control, take over the entire city with only a single survivor who escapes only to see the city getting annihilated by a nuclear bomb?

I could probably come up with quite a few more but those should be enough for now.

Or maybe a guy cloning us with the stolen blood samples to take over the world/dimension space. Flandre and Remilia are not amused. Because other than saying "Hello again!" to all the nanoha gals, there is currently nothing to do there.... A mix of Tousing with Nanoha would spice things up sufficiently though.
 
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A reality marble is by definition housed inside the users body and the effects can be internalized or externalized, Shirous ability to close his wounds with swords is an internal effect and his tracing is basically the same as Nrvnqsr releasing his familiars, bringing things from inside their world into the outside world. Internal effects are vastly cheaper because they are not opposed by the world while external effects, like Shirous swords or Nrvnqsrs familiars, are being eroded and need upkeep to not get crushed.
Kiritsugus alter time is also an effect like a reality marble that he imposes within the bounds of his body but it cannot be externalized.
Gaia's opinion of Reality Marbles is that you should keep them inside.

Showing it to everyone is indecent!
Yes. (Several, for given values of 'defeat Berserker.')
Midchilda is really not short of any form of dakkamancy, so yeah.

Worst case their capital ship weapons work.
 
Heh. I have a funny idea. Entropy Judge how effective is a fireman's high pressure hose against Flandre's breed of vampires?
Not particularly; city and well water doesn't count as metaphysically 'flowing' unless it's drawing straight from a river.


Also, votes are locked! And I'm tired, so I hope I didn't miss any mistakes or the like :/
[X] Keep talking to Patchouli.
- [X] Disguising or controlling her magic destruction effect.
- [X] Any ideas on how to teach her to fly?
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[X] Skip to seeing Ilya.
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[X] Give Satsuki a tour of the mansion.
- [X] Get Deis, too.
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[X] Keep talking to Patchouli.
-[X] Any ideas on how to teach her to fly?
-[X] Ask if there is something to get around or at least mitigate her crippling weakness to sunlight.
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Sunday update may be a bit late.
 
Patchouli's Explanation II
[X] Keep talking to Patchouli.
- [X] Any ideas on how to teach her to fly?
- [X] Ask if there is something to get around or at least mitigate her crippling weakness to sunlight.


"Okay, so nothing's actually wrong with Satsuki, it's just all that Church woman's fault for not letting her eat enough." You swing your legs as Patchoulis sighs and shakes her head, and Satsuki frowns unhappily. "Well, what about teaching her how to fly? Everyone here should be able to fly, after all - even the fairies can! Can you think of a good way to teach her?" Satsuki blanches and Patchouli sighs again.

"No. Setting aside the matter of whether she can use magic - she has an anti-magic ability as something that helps define her, after all - I have neither the time nor inclination to teach her magic, and I doubt Illyasviel is capable of teaching her, either." You scowl at her to no avail. "I have some items that could be used to grant her flight, but I likewise have no desire to grant them to her, at least not the ones that would be useful. Something that grants flight within the mansion or library alone I wouldn't mind giving in trade for something of value that you have, but not anything that you would want her to have. You might try asking the Mid-Childans, when you get there. Flight is considered a high-level skill for them, but if she does have some unique aptitude for it they may be able to help."

"Aw, really? You won't help even a little?" Koakuma giggles at your pouting face as Patchouli gives you a disgusted look.

"… Not without compensation on your part. Or Remilia's, I suppose, since you're probably going to bother her into helping you." She doesn't react to the glare you give her - in fact, she returns to her book! You wrestle down the urge to tear her book away from her and give her a good slap; Remilia wouldn't like it, and Patchouli is useful sometimes. Besides, in her library it wouldn't be the smartest thing to do … the defenses aren't normally active because all she's allowed to do are danmaku duels, but it wouldn't take much for her to activate them if she wanted to put you in your place.

"I did have another question for you, actually. If you don't mind?" She waits for a moment before lowering the book and looking at you, making it clear that she does mind, but she's willing to hear you out. Probably because solving problems is her job. "Satsuki seems to be an obligate nocturnal. Is there anything that can be done about that? Or at least mitigate it so she can do something during the day if she needs to?" She closes the book and shrugs minutely.

"Her weakness is two-fold. First is the fact that, as a vampire, her body is extremely weak to sunlight. It begins to break down even more rapidly when subjected to it, and the only real protection is avoidance. Gaining power and experience will let her survive under sunlight longer, but, again, unless you're going to throw her at a school and have her feed on everyone - and then deal with her in a manner that doesn't waste her newfound energy - it's not a situation that can be useful in the short term. Similarly, a simple parasol to shade her from direct sunlight will not be sufficient; natural light will be a problem even if she isn't directly exposed, although it will be slightly weaker. Still, a relatively simple shading spell would protect her well enough. As for the sleeping - falling asleep can be prevented with simple willpower. If the desire is strong enough, and she isn't subjected to abnormal stress, she can remain awake. Waking her from her sleep is really only effectively done by putting her in a situation where she needs to wake up or she risks death." You make a face and Satsuki ducks her head embarrassedly. Koakuma pats her shoulder reassuringly.

"Really? There's nothing else I can do to wake her up?"

"Nothing you can do consistently will wake her short of threatening her survival. It may fade in time; it may grow worse. Dead Apostles are inextricably linked to the moon of their world, even more so than youkai are linked to our own moon. Because other worlds' moons have different properties and lack the link of the Crimson Moon Brunestud, it is possible that she may grow progressively weaker and less able to function except during full dark - or she may be unaffected by the changes in her location unless the moon itself actively affects her. I suppose it will be somewhat interesting to see if and how she changes, but it's not something amazing." Satsuki looks up at Patchouli's explanation and blanches at the implication that she could wither away to nothingness. She stares at you, panicked, and you fly over to her, patting her on the head before she can say anything.

"We won't let you fade away, Satsuki - I won't let that happen. If it starts becoming a problem, we'll work something out." She nods jerkily.

"Even if it does become a problem, it probably won't be significant until after you come back. Or it may become accelerated due to Mid-Childa's lunar situation …." You scowl at Patchouli, but she's not paying attention again - for real, this time. She's frowning in thought, apparently actually curious about whether Mid-Childa's moons could have an affect on Satsuki's condition. Too bad she isn't actually being helpful …. "Now, now - be fair. She's being a lot of help with Ilya, isn't she?" Your clones slip out and stick their tongues out at you - your response to Headless's chiding - and return to you. Satsuki blinks confusedly, and Patchouli looks sharply at them before they disappear before relaxing. Headless does have a bit of a point - a small point, barely worth bringing up ….


What do you do?

[ ] Keep talking to Patchouli.
- About?

[ ] Give Satsuki a tour of the mansion.
- [ ] Get Deis, too.

[ ] Skip to seeing Ilya.

[ ] Other?
 
[x] Give Satsuki a tour of the mansion.
- [x] Get Deis, too.

we have been planning on that for a while and its pretty clear that Pache isn't very inclined to help Flan, she seems to only put up with her because of Remi and because Flan sometimes does interesting things. It makes me kind of sad because usually Pache is one of my favorite characters.
 
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- [X] Get Deis, too.
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- [X] Get Deis, too.
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Mansion Tour
[X] Give Satsuki a tour of the mansion.
- [X] Get Deis, too.


"Well, thank you, Patchouli. We'll leave you to … what were you doing, anyway?" You slip behind Satsuki and pull her up and against you as Patchouli returns to her book. She can be irritating, but Headless has a point and you should probably not aggravate her too much when she's trying to help.

"Work. Remilia is worried about certain entities finding their way into the library through a portal and wants more precautions in place." You raise your eyebrows and nod. Is she worried about those particular entities because she knows they're going to be coming, or is she just worried because those particular entities - if they find their way here - could be a problem even for her and Patchouli? Either way, why not warn you about them, too …? You bury the worry for the moment and bow your head to Patchouli.

"Good luck." She nods distractedly as you float over the railing, carrying Satsuki down to the ground floor. She relaxes once you let her stand on her own feet and takes calming breaths. "… Well, Satsuki, I think it's time you got a tour of the mansion. I'm going to go get Deis first, though, so just wait here, okay?" You pat her head and wait for her to nod before darting away through the rows of shelves back to the music room. Fortunately, Ershin is still waiting there. "Ershin! Deis~! Are you ready for a tour?"

"Ooh! A tour? Of your house?" Deis appears leaning over Ershin. "Are you going to be our guide?" You grin and bow as Ershin stands and walks over to you.

"I am. And Satsuki is coming with us." You pick up Ershin and fly back toward Satsuki. "So this is the library, as you all know. It takes up the majority of the basement, except my rooms and Patchouli and Koakuma's." The basement used to be just yours, but you didn't use most of it anyway, and Patchouli is much more comfortable underground, too. "It's books, and the portal system, I guess. It gets rearranged every so often or if Patchouli is trying something new."

"And it's variably-sized, right?" You stick out your tongue at Deis and she smiles sweetly. You toss your head and your clones pick up Satsuki and Ershin.

"Something like that, yes. And you know where my rooms are, so that's all the important stuff down here. Now, we move up!" Your clones carry your friends - Ershin is typically stoic, but Satsuki hugs the clone that's carrying her worriedly. She's so adorable. Once you're out of the basement you set them down and take your clones back. "Now, just to clarify, I'm only going to show you the important parts, and mainly the ones on the first and second floors. Actually giving you a tour of the whole mansion would probably take a lot longer than any of us want to spend. But for now, let us begin the tour of the Scarlet Devil Mansion." You lead them off toward the front hall, explaining that you've only had this particular mansion for a bit over two hundred years. Your fourth major residence, and the one you brought into Gensokyo with you when you came here. Having seen the entry hall already, Satsuki isn't too surprised, but Deis whistles appreciatively when you stop. "So, straight out the doors you'll be on the road to the gate, and you can go around to the left to get to one of the garden areas. There are balconies upstairs I can show you the outside from, so we aren't actually going to go outside." You point out the sitting rooms that are off the entry hall and lead them into the ballroom that will be the primary interior room for the party. Tables are already set up - long galley tables for food, some round and rectangular tables for sitting with a group, and some single-person square tables. Deis looks around the room suspiciously.

"Wait … this room is way too big. Is that 'variable-size' thing something that's everywhere in this place?" You giggle.

"Yep! Space isn't such a big deal here. Anyway, come on, come on!" You lead them out through another door and toward the north wing, explaining that while the fairy maids have a good amount of freedom, most of their rooms are in the interior side of the eastern wing. The north wing has your sister's collection of art and interesting items. You guide them through gallery after gallery, some pieces by humans and others by youkai - paintings, sculptures, jewelry. Another gallery features various armors on mannequins and weapons, some 'merely' perfect examples of their craft, while others are exquisitely-made pieces of artwork fully capable of killing or protecting the wearer from death. Two more galleries are devoted to items of Japanese culture: clothing, knick-knacks, colored and black-and-white paintings, and more. A lot seems to have been gotten with Aya's assistance, and some of it is definitely tengu work. Once you're finished showing them the galleries, you take them up several levels to get a good look at the northern.

"And at the top of this wing is the clock tower. There are stairs near the galleries that go up, but you shouldn't ever have to go up there." Deis waves her hand and frowns in thought.

"Okay, so plants and such go outside, right? And this whole wing is is collections?" You nod.

"Pretty much. Books all go in the library, and some collections - silverware and eating sets, things like that - are in other places, but the open areas of this wing are all given over to being like a museum." She frowns and tilts her head.

"Is there a collection of magic items? I know Patchouli has some, and she mentioned having some enchanted books, but is there some kind of - I don't know, armory or treasury?" You tap your lips as you think of where those might be.

"Hmm … probably down in the library somewhere. Patchouli is the magician, after all, so unless Remilia wanted to keep something near her, any sort of vault would probably be down there, especially since it's the most heavily fortified location with the fewest means of entrance and egress." You shrug and Deis nods; she'll probably figure out where it is while working for Patchouli, anyway. "Anyway, moving on!" You take them back inside and then down to the interior courtyard. You look around - it's been a long time since you've been here - and make your way to the long-unused tennis courts.

"Why do you have a building in the courtyard of another building?"

"Haa~ They're tennis courts, Deis. We hardly ever use them now, though. Oh, you know about tennis, Satsuki?" She nods and walks toward the nearer court.

"It's kind of popular. I've never played … it …?" You tilt your head and wait for Satsuki to continue, but she simply stands in the doorway for a while. "Um, what is this?" You frown and push your way past her.

"It's a tennis court. I'm not that good at it - my sister and Meiling are a lot better - but …." You peer into the nearest gallery to make sure it still has the racquets and balls before sending your clones to give a demonstration. "This is the newer-style court, the other one is the older style." The serving clone hits the ball, but it doesn't land on the correct penthouse before hitting the floor. "Stupid spin. The balls spin so weirdly, especially if you're not used to it." The hazard-side clone tosses the ball back and the server makes a few more shots, more successfully, before you shrug and have them retire. "It's a bit complicated, and making sure you're hitting the ball just right is a big part of playing. What sort of court were you expecting, Satsuki?" She shakes herself and stops gawking at the court.

"Oh, um, they're just a flat area with the fence in the middle. They're usually outside, so I was just looking to see how it was set up inside, but this is …." You nod and shrug.

"Well, maybe there's enough space that we can set one up outside, or we can put one in the back if you want. It's easier to block the weather here in the courtyard if it's uncooperative, though. Anyway~" You drag your friend and servant back into the mansion proper and show them to the kitchen. Sakuya isn't there at the moment - maybe she's asleep, maybe she's just off doing something else - but after learning that she's a better cook than you Deis declares it to be her favorite room in the mansion. You swing back around to the library side and show them where Ilya's apartments are going to be, and the gardens visible from her balcony. There isn't much in the back of the mansion, at least not right now; most of the guest suites and the associated trappings are in that wing, and a lot of offices and studies for private work. Satsuki stretches and yawns.

"So that was the short tour, huh?" You nod and take a seat on the railing.

"Yup! There isn't much else to show, I think; there are paintings scattered throughout the halls, and you haven't seen my sister's suite or been to the clock tower, but the tower isn't anything special and even if I could show you Remilia's suite without her permission I wouldn't. I think only Meiling knows the gardens well enough to actually say anything about them besides there are pretty flowers and other plants, and I don't think there's anything interesting in the forest. Not to mention that a thorough tour, as I said, would take a lot more time than just the few hours we've spent walking around." You look up at the twinkling stars.


What do you do?

[ ] Skip to seeing Ilya.

[ ] Other?
 
[X] Check what time it is, and go to sleep.
-[X] Skip to seeing Ilya.

Don't want to just auto skip, though. Just make her go to sleep and then skip.
 
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