- Location
- Paris
But what beans would she be spilling? I think the PRT knows more about Sirin than Amy at that point.
Last edited:
Firebird, a Worm AU/Xover?
- Thread starter chibipoe
- Start date
But what beans would she be spilling? I think the PRT knows more about Sirin than Amy at that point.
- Location
- The U.P.
Its not what he needs to know exactly but its a starting point. For the past couple of years since she started high school all they talked about was the weather. He has been absent from Talyor's life, they may be living in the same house but he never took an interest in what she was doing. Basically the wards and powers are hot topic that will only start a fight. So instead he can start getting back into her life with smaller topics and build up to talking about the wards and other hot issues. Instead all Danny focused on was that she has powers, have to keep her safe. He forgot that he needed to find out what happening in his daughters life for the two years that he checked out. This could have lead to him having a better understanding of Taylor reasoning and would of allowed her to see some hope of changing his mind about the wards. But instead they didn't talk and she ran away.
azoicennead
Overly-Affectionate Zombie Squad
- Pronouns
- He/They
And looking at other aspects of Taylor's life can help solve that issue (by giving Danny information he doesn't have), in addition to providing a non-confrontational conversation that can be used to transition into a discussion on why she objects to the Wards so strenuously.
Also, her friend Glory Girl (who has been heavily involved in her superhero career so far) gave her the jacket, so it's relevant to that beyond just being something very expensive that a girl who shouldn't have much - if any - spending money wouldn't be able to afford. People who are broke suddenly having new, nice things is generally considered pretty fucking suspicious.
Parselmaster
Silent Balancing Scale
- Location
- Mid-West, USA
Seriously. Cut this crap out. The Danny and Taylor situation has been talked to death. If you feel that strongly about it, take it to PMs amongst yourselves. This is wasting everyone's time, and the author has stated that the topic should be dropped.
Stop it.
Stop it.
- Pronouns
- Yes
Actually her attitude in canon makes it more likely she'd go fo it. If she wasn't a piggot she might see Taylor as too young to e on her own, but given her prejudices she's not going to see Taylor as much different than an 18-19 y/o parahuman.
Additionally this would give Piggot two months to convince Taylor the Wards are a good choice, or at least not have running around like a loose cannonwhile Piggot is legally responsile for her.
You're confusing 'emancipated minor' status for which the only asolute requirement is that the minor in question can take care of themselvs (financially and otherwise) with the state revoking a parent or guardian's parental rights which requires demonstrating they are not fit guardians.
If Taylor shows up in court with paperwork showing she has a legitimate job that earns more than the median wage and does not interfere with her schooling, unless the laws in Earth Beit are significantly different from what they are in RL the judge would be likely to grant Taylor's petition on the spot. The PRT's help in this case would amount to pointing Taylor in the right direction and letting her handle everything else.
Not as well as the PRT and/or Taylor suing anyone who pulished that for libel. The point of Emancipated Minor status is that Taylor would e the one doing everything, the PRT's help would be in pointing her in the right direction and maye testifying, in the hearing. That's it.
- Pronouns
- Yes
......
Unicorn....you have a habit of not reading the mood and letting a topic go.
What topic? Taylor and Danny? I'm not discussing that.
- Location
- Crackship Space!
You got a point there.
Shes just got to achieve gainful employment that can support her, as well as still attend school... and shes not likely to earn enough money to buy her way into Arcadia...
Plus I think she cant just 'get a job and still go to school' and immediately gain Emancipated status. The judge will likely want to know how long the employment will last...
VolantRedX
Official Conscience of Worm Fanfiction!
Arcadia is a public school. You don't pay for it. It's a matter of where you live.
- Location
- Crackship Space!
But wasn't one of the issues with her getting into it in Canon that it had a long waiting list?
VolantRedX
Official Conscience of Worm Fanfiction!
It's because it's the good public school so everyone that wants to avoid the bad schools want their kid to go there. Thing is to do that you have to provide evidence that you should be. Good athletes, honor roll students, and active students are the kinds of people that they take. It's sort of like white flight.
Amberion
Mighty #9
Hell, there are adults who don't know the answer to that last one!
- Location
- Little Rock, AR
Well they're the people who get priority. Along with people who look like wards.
- Location
- Existance
*raises hand* Man, every time I get a job the business closes down or replaces the entirety of its staff or goes through a massive massive downsize. Lots of fun...
- Location
- Crackship Space!
I was more getting at that he would want to make sure she had actual gainful employment, not just paying some guy 50 bucks to sign a piece of paper 'saying' she had a job.
This Taylor?
Aeselon
Runs With Sentences
- Location
- UK
Honestly? I can see where both parties are coming from. No-one, teenagers or otherwise, likes having their choices negated or taken from them. Part of being an adult is realising what battles are worth fighting.
That and being a crap parent and abrogating responsibility for your kid because you don't "understand" them is an exercise in stupidity and rank hypocrisy. A good dose of "wake the fuck up" is exactly what Danny needs.
On the other hand, Taylor's cynicism is a bit extreme, but understandable. The fact that a high school =/= all authority has escaped her. Not to mention the fact that what she's doing is incredibly dangerous.
I think we can safely say the only blameless people here are Taylor's friends.
That and being a crap parent and abrogating responsibility for your kid because you don't "understand" them is an exercise in stupidity and rank hypocrisy. A good dose of "wake the fuck up" is exactly what Danny needs.
On the other hand, Taylor's cynicism is a bit extreme, but understandable. The fact that a high school =/= all authority has escaped her. Not to mention the fact that what she's doing is incredibly dangerous.
I think we can safely say the only blameless people here are Taylor's friends.
- Pronouns
- Yes
Umm..not sure what you mean here. If you mean she can't get enough money to bribe her way into Arcadia you're right, but Arcadia is a pulic school so that's not really relevant.
If you mean she can't make enough money to make a decent living on while attending school, you're wrong. Mobile crane rental is 100-300$ an hour, even if Taylor only charges 50$ an hour she could easily make more than her father working just on weekends.
Point. However, a letter from an employer, or from past clients if she's self-employed, or expert testimony that her job is not going to disappear any time soon would address that just fine.
For that matter, if Taylor moves she could go to some school other than Winslow. It might not be as good as the Magnet school Arcadia, but it would proably be good enough.
Emancipation is kind of tricky and a very involved process. Generally, you (the minor) has to prove some sort of abuse for a judge to grant it, because the court system is designed not to break up families, and legally Danny did nothing wrong so that's right out as an argument. Chances would be slim at best, unless of course she's willing to manufacture evidence, lie on the stand, and maybe jigger her child advocacy lawyer just so in order to make a solid case.
Edit: To give a fun example about the US legal system: if military police discover an abused child while responding to a domestic, the parents have to take the child to the hospital, even if they're the abusers. They legally can't take the kid away, only CPS can do that. The standard solution is to call for an ambulance when you respond, so the parent gets supervised in case that sort of shit went down.
Edit: To give a fun example about the US legal system: if military police discover an abused child while responding to a domestic, the parents have to take the child to the hospital, even if they're the abusers. They legally can't take the kid away, only CPS can do that. The standard solution is to call for an ambulance when you respond, so the parent gets supervised in case that sort of shit went down.
Last edited:
- Pronouns
- Yes
No, you don't. There are plenty of child actors who apply for emancipation to either gain more control of their finances, or simply so they can work more hours - no allegations of abuse at all.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/21/celebrities-emancipated-from-parents_n_3314063.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...cipated-from-your-parents-better-be-rich.html
A more correct statement would be that judges are very leary of granting emancipated minor status unless provided abundant proof the child can handle their own affairs. Taylor would have no difficulty doing so if someone pointed her in the right direction, making her situation similar to those of child actors who petition the courts for the status.
Edit:Another factor in favor of granting Taylor emancipated minor status would be the fact that her father clearly can't control her, leaving the viale choices either having the state step in to do so, or allow her to control herself.
Last edited:
Which is why I said generally, and I'd really argue that's more a case of money and fame buying whatever you want/getting you through anything court-related. Kind of how Robert Durst ran around for a good number of years with the word murderer practically tattooed on his forehead. Or Ray Rice. Or... well, there's a lot of examples that people with money and fame live in a very different world. I guess a more more correct statement is the only "guaranteed" path for emancipation is provable abuse. Fact is, if she goes for it, there's going to be a bevy of court-appointed psychologists doing exhaustive checks and interviews to ensure it's in her "best interest," which I put in quotes because that's the kind of stretch to fit definition it sounds like. If it's determined she is in a toxic home situation, well, you said it in the edit. Foster care, which is generally considered a "better" option than putting a kid on the street, so to speak (obviously I don't mean that literally, but look back on you at 15. Could you legitimately handle all the shit adult life throws at you by yourself, with no parental help at all?)
earthboy
(verified ape)
- Location
- NYC
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Obviously, it wasn't Dragon, it was Ultron.
Ultron didn't do it to protect Taylor, of course.
He did it to ensure that Tony Stark, aka "Toybox Tony", wouldn't find her.
The Stormbringer
Worm Fanfic & Crack Connoisseur
- Location
- Spaaaaace~!
Amy gets her amazing revenge by... TURNING TAYLOR STRAIGH--wait, she's already straight. What the fuck?
EDIT: I don't suppose there's been word on how far the start of Arc 3 is coming along?
EDIT: I don't suppose there's been word on how far the start of Arc 3 is coming along?