Fate/Stay Night: Prepare To Die Edition

[x] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!

[X] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[X] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[X] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[X] You need to introduce yourself to the Church Mediator at some stage!
-[X] Take Lancer?
[X] Fortify your workshop!
 
[X] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!

[x] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[x] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[x] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[X] Do something with your puppets!
-[X] Have them scout the surrounding areas inconspicuously for any strange happenings.
[X] Fortify your workshop!
 
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We successfully Choco'd them without Choco's help. That's an achievement right there.
 
We successfully Choco'd them without Choco's help. That's an achievement right there.
It doesn't happen when I'm running paranoia.jar. Or when I'm not not out of my gourd. The second qualifier is important, because that's my hat. One might, I suppose, call it a drinking cap.

That's a pun on thinking cap, by the way. The joke being that instead of getting smarter, I post like it's four in the morni-Oh Wait. It is.
 
[x] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!

[x] Do something with your puppets!
-[x] Have them scout the surrounding areas inconspicuously for any strange happenings.
[X] You need to introduce yourself to the Church Mediator at some stage!
-[X] Take Lancer?
[X] Fortify your workshop!
 
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Bad End-kun stared us in the eye, and then we politely bought his cookies and sent him home.

Awesome.

[X] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!

[X] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[X] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[X] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[X] Do something with your puppets!
-[X] Have them scout the surrounding areas inconspicuously for any strange happenings.
[X] Fortify your workshop!
 
It's not like I don't understand the value of fortifying our workshop... I just don't really see the point when servants can wreck us if they're attacking our base anyway. All of our puppets look like us or stuffed animals, so they're not exactly inconspicuous, which makes them not so useful for the only thing I really find valuable about them - surveillance. If you guys think a suped up workshop (which Alice might not really be able to do much more with except add puppets... which we need to make), then whatever... but I don't see the point.

Let me re-iterate.

All our puppets look like us or stuffed animals. That's not weird at all, scouting around with mini-us's and moving stuffed animals!

...Honestly, I barely want to play this anymore, ever since we picked to be an antisocial puppeteer girl who can't lie or use her full power under almost any circumstance. How fucking useless.

Edit: And then picked an antisocial servant to boot.
 
[X] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!

[x] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[x] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[x] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[X] Do something with your puppets!
-[X] Have them scout the surrounding areas inconspicuously for any strange happenings.
[X] Fortify your workshop!

How fucking useless.


I'll be honest, your reasoning smacks horribly of laziness. I'm not sure how someone could be unable to come up with some helpful way to utilise an explicitly large number of semi-autonomous drones in conjunction with a pretty spectacularly powerful servant. Especially given how the dolls form the totality of our magecraft, suggesting we could make them a legitimate threat to enemy Magi if they aren't already.

And as far as I'm concerned, two antisocial characters being forced to work together is a recipe for potential WAFF. Hell, we've already established Alice as a rather kooky personality with the cookies thing, so it's not like she's likely to be the unpleasant kind of antisocial. We'll grow on Ornstein. Like a fungus.
 

We have to control them directly.

spectacularly powerful servant

Also not true. He's eeeh~ tier at best compared to the other servants, probably. At least in terms of pairs, Rho and Ambrose ranked us around 5th in terms of power.

legitimate threat to enemy Magi

I'm not dissing Alice's strength. In fact, at full power, she's apparently like a pseudo-servant. But she would basically never use that because of some twisted reasoning of 'if I lose a fight at my full-power, my life is pointless' or something. I'm saying that beyond her puppeteering, there's not a lot of redeemable/useful traits. She's bad at talking to others, and she can't deceive them either. It makes it useful in some cases (Shirou appreciates honesty, I guess), but COMBINED it makes it pretty hard to form alliances and the like.
 
I'll grant I might have overestimated our strength a little, but I'm nevertheless genuinely baffled by the sheer venom of your last post. We're still really damn strong, and an inability to lie does not mean we have to spit all our secrets out the moment someone looks at us. Nothing you've complained about cannot be overcome.

Ornstein is a Knight. A Knight of the days of gods even. What use does he have of associating with humans?

Good question. And with the Master/servant thing forcing our cooperation, I look forward to eventually finding out.
 
I'll grant I might have overestimated our strength a little, but I'm nevertheless genuinely baffled by the sheer venom of your last post. We're still really damn strong, and an inability to lie does not mean we have to spit all our secrets out the moment someone looks at us. Nothing you've complained about cannot be overcome.

Eeh. I was just irritated. A lot of discussion happens on Discord, so there's been a lot of really cool stuff hinted at with the changes in the last War and how it affects this one - and it makes me pissed off that not only did we turn down opportunities to get an easier in to that information, we picked the exact opposite - someone who doesn't social. It constantly reminds me that we shot ourselves in the foot with that. It's not like I wanted our set up to be perfect or anything, but playing some socially-inept female Touhou expy I don't know, with a servant who doesn't talk... at this point I'm really only playing so I can find out more about the background stuff because turtling up with puppets sounds boring. Well, that and I have faith in Rho and Ambrose to liven things up once the war really gets going.

EDIT: And you didn't even address the actual IMPORTANT part of my post, which said why Workshop and Puppet Survellience aren't necessarily the best options here... so don't nag to me about not believing in Alice when you don't even discuss our options.
 
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To be fair, in my experience being socially inept rarely actually hampers SV PCs. I mean, just look at the protags of Zerban's Fate: Hollow series, or Firnagzen's Sabrina. As long as the players behind the character know what they're doing (never a guarantee :p) it just means we get to the information in a more roundabout and entertaining fashion. Besides, Fate:Stay Night quests live and die based on their master/servant interaction, so I'm sure Alice will be violently thrown out of her comfort zone sooner rather than later.
 
with a servant who doesn't talk...
I will tolerate much, but stop dissing the Lion Knight.

Ornstein will talk when we've proven our worth. He's kinda sorta a little bit discriminatory i guess against humanity, Because Being a member of the 'lol screw physics' race when there are these tiny squishy pygmys around does end up having a recipe for making you wonder how the hell they don't just break themselves on rocks with how squishy they are. That said, If we prove ourselves to be trying, he'll respect that. We might not succeed (though that'll have an impact on Alice for sure), but that's not what's important.

Or at least, that's what I've got from him. Basically, hard to warm up to, but once we've gained his respect, we've gained it for freaking good.
 
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[X] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!
[x] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[x] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[x] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[X] Do something with your puppets!
-[X] Have them scout the surrounding areas inconspicuously for any strange happenings.
[X] Fortify your workshop!
No. of Votes: 3

[X] Test the cookies for magical weirdness. THEN eat them.
[X] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[X] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[X] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[X] Fortify your workshop!
[X] Do something with your puppets!
-[X] Make remote dolls that don't require direct control from you.
No. of Votes: 2

[x] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!
[X] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[X] Make puppets that look like animals
-[X] Inconspicuous ones, like local birds and squirrels.
[x] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[x] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[x] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[X] You need to introduce yourself to the Church Mediator at some stage!
-[X] Take Lancer?
No. of Votes: 1

[x] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!
[x] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[x] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[x] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[x] You need to introduce yourself to the Church Mediator at some stage!
-[x] Take Lancer in astral form, but leave him outside the church.
[x] Attempt to improve one of your skills.
-[x] Item construction
No. of Votes: 1

[x] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!
[X] You should definitely spend some time working on your puppets.
-[X] Modify your biggest doll that looked like you to have a different appearance
--[X] However, do not make it look like Touko.
[X] You need to introduce yourself to the Church Mediator at some stage!
-[X] Take Lancer?
[X] Fortify your workshop!
No. of Votes: 1

[x] No, you paid for it, and you like cookies – keep it!
[x] Do something with your puppets!
-[x] Have them scout the surrounding areas inconspicuously for any strange happenings.
[X] You need to introduce yourself to the Church Mediator at some stage!
-[X] Take Lancer?
[X] Fortify your workshop!
No. of Votes: 1

Total No. of Voters: 9
 
Summoning Theory: Test 7
You look down at the box of cookies for a while.

This is totally suspicious.

… but they smell so good.

Unable to help yourself, you reach a hand under the box and pull a cookie free from its prison. One bite and you've confirmed how delicious they are, a second and the rest of the cookie is gone. It takes a considerable amount of willpower to not just eat the entire box then and there. Toting it back over to your kitchen, you set it aside and think ahead to what you'll be spending the rest of your day doing.

Well, there's the matter of someone coming straight up to your door. You'll need to address that. In a number of ways. Sighing, you leave the cookies behind and return to the section of the house that you would truly call your Workshop. Once a study, now filled with a number of different devices and materials that make you think of a puppeteer's atelier, rather than one belonging to a Magi. You settle yourself in on the lone chair, willing the chorus of puppets following you to bring you what you need.

Which has a familiar face plopped down on the table, staring lifeless up at the ceiling. Your face.

Most people would feel unsettled looking at a naked, lifeless version of themselves, but you're well beyond that. Puppetry is an art and these creations are your canvas. Modelling them after yourself wasn't unintentional, after all. You thought rather highly of your own appearance, so replicating it came naturally to you. But if people are going to come up to your door, then it might be smart to send something in your place. A copy of you is well and good, but if you can pretend to be someone else…

It's your own nature that forces you to use a face from memory. It isn't a person you know all that well, but you won't deny her beauty or power. Your hand clasps around tools as they're brought to you by the puppets. Skin is peeled back, hair plucked free and everything rebuilt from scratch. Gruesome work, to be sure. Every now and then you feel Lancer's gaze peer over your work, but you pay him no mind. You continue on in the knowledge that this will definitely help you in one fashion or another.

Considering the task is likely to take all day, however, you divert your resources about as you work on the more menial tasks to scouting the area around your mansion. Through the eyes of one of your dolls, you immediately notice something out of the ordinary. A little, white-haired girl, who, through the sight of your doll, was shining almost blindingly with power. This girl was, to put it bluntly, the single most powerful person you had ever seen in your life.

It was absolutely terrifying.

In fact, this girl was so terrifying to you that you almost overlooked the figure behind her. It was a very large man, three times the smaller girl's height, wearing a black and red military style uniform, along with a very impressive looking hat decorated with a skull. He cut quite the intimidating figure, even putting aside the toothed-sword he had at his waist. It was impossible to see his eyes from the angle your doll was at, but his expression seemed quite serious and harsh, a great contrast to the little girl before him.

"Saber! This is boring! Why aren't there more evil people to fight? I can't be a Hero like you if there's nothing to do!"

The larger man, obviously a Servant from your doll's perspective, merely sighed tiredly.

"Trust me, child, you should treasure these moments of calm. If I could never fight another battle…"

The girl pouted quite visibly, before replying with something your doll couldn't catch, as the pair walked out of hearing range.

There's no chance to follow after them without leaving your sphere of influence, so you do your best by filing away what information you remember about them. Just at a glance the man didn't look like a Servant in what you'd been imagining them. The stories revolved around Heroic Spirits – people of legend. You'd done a bit of history before participating so you thought you would recognise a figure or two, but Ornstein? This Saber? None if it made any sense.

You catch yourself a single moment before your hand slips, steadying yourself. Considering you're working on the fake Circuits it's a lucky thing, too. You divert most of your focus back to your work, delegating only a little attention to your dolls. As the day passes by, you realise rather quickly that you're going to be spending the rest of your time on the doll in front of you if you want to finish before nightfall. Your intention to work on fortifying your Workshop is quickly forgotten in favour of the task right in front of you.

Unfortunate, but there's nothing you can do now.

Before night truly falls over Fuyuki you finally manage to finish. The glassy blue eyes stare up at you – no, through you. It's not awake yet. There's no point in waking it now, either, so you leave the newly built doll on your desk as you leave the Workshop for the first time in the majority of the day.

Indeed, there's no time to properly do anything to your Workshop before nightfall. As it's the second night, you doubt you can get away with doing nothing, either. You'd ask Lancer's opinion, but… honestly you feel a little strange about it. Your link to him is strong, but the emotions you get across it feel foreign.

Lancer is not human like you are, of that much you're certain.

You lean up against the wall alongside your study and close your eyes. There is much to do, and not enough time to do it.

Choose Two
[] Go scouting.
-[] Anywhere in particular?
--[] Alone?
--[] Take Lancer?
--[] Send Lancer alone?
--[] Send your human doll?
---[] Send Lancer with it?

[] Maybe you should visit the Church tonight…
-[] Take Lancer?

[] You could still work on your Puppets.
-[] On anything in particular?

[] Ask Lancer's opinion.
-[] About anything in particular?

[] Fortify your workshop!



You have seen Saber! His parameters have been filled in...

Your visibility has increased!
 
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