Yeah we don't need training just gotta lay low to we can get back to strength and then Surprise.
we are locked inside shirou, and he currently has of strength of normal human. He need to learn alternate ways to protect himself, melee is best way to do it, Magnus can deal with psyker training. Maybe we will learn snake fist style from kuzuki??
 
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[X]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)
 
They don't need to they all know how to fight from birth its how they can slaughter groups of elite soldiers when they are only days old.
Hell Angron killed a group of Eldar by himself the day he was born.
no i mean did they have any specialized hand to hand combat style? i mean assassination temples got specific martial art styles, death cults use different martial arts. Different forms of incisions, lacerations, punctures, the type of the weapon used, the part of the body that has been struck all have special significance to dedicating the soul to the Emperor. Many of the ritual weapons used and lovingly maintained by the Cult are highly specialized.

Tanith was home to the legendary Nalsheen wood warriors, a brotherhood of Tanith who used the martial art cwlwhl (pronounced kil-wil); using blade-tipped staffs to fight off multiple foes. The Nalsheen were responsible for overthrowing the corrupt Huhlhuch Dynasty and ushering in the free modern era of Tanith. Most Chapter Serfs are still trained in the martial arts to levels at least equivalent to that of a standard Imperial Guardsman, and are expected to assist in the defence of Chapter assets such as fortresses and vessels if the need arises. John Grammaticus was an expert in both human and xenos martial arts. Rama Karayan, a member of the Raven Guard joined Malcador's Knights-Errant and learned Chogoris martial arts from Altan Nohai. Celestians are the most skilled fighters within an Order of the Sisters of Battle, and they are skilled practitioners of the martial arts of the Daughters of the Emperor of old.
 
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no i mean did they have any specialized hand to hand combat style? i mean assassination temples got specific martial art styles, death cults use different martial arts. Different forms of incisions, lacerations, punctures, the type of the weapon used, the part of the body that has been struck all have special significance to dedicating the soul to the Emperor. Many of the ritual weapons used and lovingly maintained by the Cult are highly specialized.

Tanith was home to the legendary Nalsheen wood warriors, a brotherhood of Tanith who used the martial art cwlwhl (pronounced kil-wil); using blade-tipped staffs to fight off multiple foes. The Nalsheen were responsible for overthrowing the corrupt Huhlhuch Dynasty and ushering in the free modern era of Tanith. Most Chapter Serfs are still trained in the martial arts to levels at least equivalent to that of a standard Imperial Guardsman, and are expected to assist in the defence of Chapter assets such as fortresses and vessels if the need arises. John Grammaticus was an expert in both human and xenos martial arts. Rama Karayan, a member of the Raven Guard joined Malcador's Knights-Errant and learned Chogoris martial arts from Altan Nohai. Celestians are the most skilled fighters within an Order of the Sisters of Battle, and they are skilled practitioners of the martial arts of the Daughters of the Emperor of old.
Im fairly sure they all developed their own fighting styles and didn't get trained in a specific one but im not sure about it so don't take my word for it.
 
[X]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)

Im fairly sure they all developed their own fighting styles and didn't get trained in a specific one but im not sure about it so don't take my word for it.
I think the issue is they developed fighting styles appropriate for 10ft tall giants who can punch through steel plate without a scratch and regenerate most lesser wounds.

Normal people die when they are killed.
 
[x]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)
 
[X]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)
 
[X]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)


I think the issue is they developed fighting styles appropriate for 10ft tall giants who can punch through steel plate without a scratch and regenerate most lesser wounds.

Normal people die when they are killed.
maybe we will develop something awesome after we master breathing and walking like Hougetsu Jigen-Tou or Black Heaven and Earth Technique.
 
[X]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)
 
[x]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)
 
[X]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)
 
Flinging spells/powers as you close in, using magic to parry enemy attacks and then unleashing point blank ass kicking via Sufficient Dakka
Rin Tohsaka actually very good martial artist, her family have a specialized kenpou. Rin practices pseudo-karate as a form of self-defense. Her instructor in martial arts is Kirei who is a Bajiquan master, his teaching was responsible for the sequence of moves she used to corner Caster.

First Tohsaka family leader Nagato Tohsaka originally attempted to reach the root through martial arts, during the Third Heaven's Feel younger Edelfelt twin that was supposedly defeated, was well known for being very capable in the use of both jewelcraft and martial art. It is unknown if the Tohsaka gained the abilities from the Edelfelt twin marrying with the head of the Tohsaka family of that time or simply by having her Magic Crest stolen, but after that time their original means to reach root was shifted. In the "Apocrypha" universe, the Tohsaka gave up on the Greater Grail. Rin end up becoming the founder of a "completely new martial arts that combines magecraft and Chinse Kenpou" by the time she becomes a high school student.
 
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Pretty good.


With the exception of Angron, who was able to catch and throw a titan, he's probably the naturally strongest of the Primarchs, he is the tallest for a reason.
correction in Vulkan Lives it is stated that Vulkan is the strongest interms of brute strength, just needed to clarify that with you
 
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Intro Part 8
[x]Take Magnus's advice and accept Kiritsugu's offer (be adopted by the Magus killer) (Chance of Shirou gaining the Trait Trusting, improved relations with Magnus)


After carefully weighing what the man before you said and what Magnus had said you nod slowly. "Can I at least know the name of my new guardian?" you ask.
The man gives a hollow chuckle and a rather sad smile "I guess I forgot about that didn't I?" the question is rhetorical. "Well my name is Emiya Kiritsugu" he introduces himself. "But first there is one more thing that you need to know before you decide" he stated pausing for effect though more just to gather your whole undivided attention.
+He is a Magus, a user of Thaumaturgy, and one of the people responsible for the fire, though to be more exact he is a Spellcaster, who is considered a Heretic by traditional Magi for his use of incorporating technology into his magecraft. Also he is well renown to the moonlit world as it is called as the Magus Killer. He has just lost his wife to whatever was the source of that fire + Magnus informed you.
For some reason you feel then need to repeat that. With that Kiritsugu's eyes widened at this and then narrowed "how do you know?"he asks his tone now cold like a professional killers.
"I don't really know?" you lie, but that is not a whole lie. Magnus told you, what you don't know or how Magnus himself know such information?
needed 5 rolled: Roll(2d20) 15,11= 26 astounding success
Kiritsugu's eyes softened before he recalled something that the doctors said "they said that you would have likely suffered amnesia as a result of the fire" the Magus killer stated coolly. He then looked you up and down "yes you do seem to have Circuits but they have never been used" he commented. Seeing that you were looking at him confused he sat up "my apologies about that it is clear you have little to no idea what I am talking about" he then sighed. "Well I'll go get the papers and forms sorted so that you can leave when you are discharged you can come with me.



You stand before an open plain that is similar to a dessert in the distance you can make out the shapes of certain objects. "Well then we are here" a deep but melodious voice rumbles beside you and you turn sharply to see a giant red man with only a single eye on his face dressed in gold armour towering above you.
"Magnus" you manage in awe of the figure he cuts.
"I am" Magnus replies with a nod. "Walk with me" he instructs as you fall n line beside him "Here I have built two structures for you use" he states as you come to see a large impossibly tall spire and then a massive arena off in the distance. You look at Magnus and he returns the stare gazing into you with his one eye transfixing you with his gaze. "There is much to do and we have little time at the moment" he informed you. "choose one or the other, or if you desire choose both" he instructed.


Shirou's options
[] Choose the Arena (unlocks special event and options, Mangus mildly approves)
[] Choose the Spire (unlocks special event and options, Magnus moderately approves)
[] Choose both,Diligent, Stewardship (unlocks special event, Magnus Greatly approves)


Magnus's options
[] Gaze into the past to gain knowledge of this world (unlocks special events, chance of lore being gained)
[] Direct your whole attention to Shirou (unlocks special even, Shirou gains a boost in his events)
[] Speak with Kiritsugu (unlocks special events)


Magnus in the mindscape (relaity marble) can be in mutliple places at once making him able to both instruct Shirou and do something else at the same time.
 
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[X] Choose both,Diligent, Stewardship (unlocks special event, Magnus Greatly approves)
[X] Direct your whole attention to Shirou (unlocks special even, Shirou gains a boost in his events)
 
[X] Choose the Spire (unlocks special event and options, Magnus moderately approves)
[X] Gaze into the past to gain knowledge of this world (unlocks special events, chance of lore being gained)

Steady as we go.
 
[X] Choose both,Diligent, Stewardship (unlocks special event, Magnus Greatly approves)
[X] Gaze into the past to gain knowledge of this world (unlocks special events, chance of lore being gained)
 
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