Fate/Desiderantes Affectibus (Fate/Zero & PMMM Cross)

I remember that Madoka crossover. I found myself rather wishing it hadn't been a crossover because it had several timeline alterations and didn't get a chance to explore any of them in-depth enough. I think it was Right of Kings or something like that.
 
Interestingly enough, there's a different (and possibly unfinished? I don't remember) F/Z & PMMM crossover somewhere on the Internet that has Saber win the Fourth Grail War and make her wish...and Morgan le Fay is the one who becomes ruler of Britain in her place. It's been a while since I read that story, but it made me think about the consequences of Saber's wish and whether her replacement would be someone she approves of. There are many different ways to rule a country and many different ways "better" can be defined, so what Saber imagines a superior king would be like might not be anything at all like what her wish actually provides.
Huh, that sounds like it would make for a really interesting story, and I've long since found Le Fay interesting and having a lot of potential. Is there a chance you could send me a link? Its cool if not.
 
Well DezoPenguin The profile of the author on Fanfic is the same as OP's profile here, with the two differences being that A) The Fanfic profile is a year younger, and B) Fate/d on Fanfic is only at Chapter 7, when here it's at Chapter 11. It's almost like the person running the account on Fanfic is copy pasting them once a month to seem like he is the one writing it.
 
Well DezoPenguin The profile of the author on Fanfic is the same as OP's profile here, with the two differences being that A) The Fanfic profile is a year younger, and B) Fate/d on Fanfic is only at Chapter 7, when here it's at Chapter 11. It's almost like the person running the account on Fanfic is copy pasting them once a month to seem like he is the one writing it.
Yes, but the user here also has a link to that fanfic account in their signature.

The fic also exists on Spacebattles.
 
I have to say that I have enjoyed this ride so far, and that should she choose to manifest in this Grail War, Madoka would be a perfect fit for the Saver class.
 
Fourth Holy Grail War, PMMM Edition by SaltyWaffles
It's the Fourth Holy Grail War, PMMM Edition, featuring:

Kyouko as Lancer
Kirika as Berserker
Oriko as Caster
Sayaka as Saber
Homura as Assassin
Madoka as Archer
Mami as Rider (with Charlotte as her mount--makes about as much sense as Medusa having the pegasus as her mount, so why not?)

---

The blue light faded, and the mist parted. The summoning was complete. However...

"You're not King Arthur," Kiritsugu stated, half in surprise, half in confusion.

Sayaka looked down at herself, then back up at the man, and raised an eyebrow. "Really? What gave that away?"

---

"This must be some kind of joke!" The current crest-holder of the Archibald family looked apoplectic, his face red and contorted.

Kyouko sighed. "This is gonna be fun," she said, a hand coming up to her forehead. "I can tell already."

---

Tokiomi didn't even bother trying to hide his disappointment. "But...this cannot be. With that catalyst--you were supposed to be Gilgamesh!"

"Um," the pinkette chuckled nervously, scratching the side of her cheek. "Sorry about that?"

---

"Well, if we're going to be out patrolling, we need to be mobile. Hop on!"

Waver looked at her like she'd grown a second head. Or lost her first one. "I'm not getting on that thing!"

---

Kirika looked about her surroundings. The dark, spooky walls, floor, and ceiling, the freaky-as-hell worm things, the creepy-looking old man, the less-creepy-looking man who looked like something had seriously messed with his biology...

"Okay, what the fuck."

---

Oriko looked at the man who had summoned her. At the bloody knife in his hand. At the smile on his face. At the terror in the boy's eyes. At the bloody corpses of the boy's parents.

A quick hail of her baubles, and he was an even more gruesome sight than the other two bodies on the floor. She approached the child, who hardly seemed to have calmed down much. "Come with me, child. I will take you to safety."

And she meant it. She had no Master now, but she would sooner die (again) than have a despicable monster like him be her Master. And perhaps she would be able to find a replacement in time...

---

"You are...not what I was expecting."

Homura examined the man who had summoned her. He seemed...ordinary, but that fact that he had summoned her suggested he was anything but. "I get that a lot."
 
Mami as Rider (with Charlotte as her mount--makes about as much sense as Medusa having the pegasus as her mount, so why not?)
TBH it doesn't, really. Problem is that no Puella Magi actually qualifies for Rider, so you kind of have to resort tho this level of stretching it to fill the slot.
 
Mami as Rider (with Charlotte as her mount--makes about as much sense as Medusa having the pegasus as her mount, so why not?)
Actually, considering Pegasus sprung from Medusa's severed neck and Rider summons Pegasus by slitting her own throat, it makes a lot more sense than "this is the thing that killed me."

TBH it doesn't, really. Problem is that no Puella Magi actually qualifies for Rider, so you kind of have to resort tho this level of stretching it to fill the slot.
What about the girl from Kazumi magica, the one with the giant teddy bears?
 
Why not Bebe as rider? Transforming into her snake thing isn't out of the question, right? The only time it's on screen, it is a fairly literal sacrificial summoning shtick too, since it kind of explodes out of her doll form.
 
Why not Bebe as rider? Transforming into her snake thing isn't out of the question, right? The only time it's on screen, it is a fairly literal sacrificial summoning shtick too, since it kind of explodes out of her doll form.
A Magical Girl and her Witch might actually be Separate Servants, sort of like how Medusa and Gorgon are two different things. Or like Alter or Lily Servants.
 
A Magical Girl and her Witch might actually be Separate Servants, sort of like how Medusa and Gorgon are two different things. Or like Alter or Lily Servants.

Sayaka gets hers as a summon, but Bebe shows up with hers as a transformation, even if it's mostly just blending parts of it into her human body. I think she'd be likely to fit both in one.

It's a bit arbitrary though, and a lot of that would just be because we don't have much information on who she is as a person outside of being a Witch, and she doesn't seem to separate it from herself mentally the way Sayaka probably does.
 
A Magical Girl and her Witch might actually be Separate Servants, sort of like how Medusa and Gorgon are two different things. Or like Alter or Lily Servants.
And that's without taking the effects of Madoka's final wish into account. For all we know, a Witch Servant might get ganked upon summoning or create an odd fusion of Magical Girl and Witch similar to the Alter-Egos of Grand Order.
 
If you want to toy with Puella Magi using their Witch forms, Kyouko could qualify as Rider. Her Witch, Ophelia, rides a pesudo-mechanical unicorn-thing.


Nagisa manifesting Charlotte separately and riding her snake monster form would work as well.

A Magical Girl and her Witch might actually be Separate Servants, sort of like how Medusa and Gorgon are two different things. Or like Alter or Lily Servants.
I could see it working both ways, with some classes having the Witch and Puella Magi separate and only using one or the other, and others having them fused (like with the Law of Cycles girls in Rebellion and Sayaka in this story). But if they were to be separate servants, I think the Witches would only qualify as Berserkers. Their madness is too deeply entrenched in their "legends" to be anything else.
 
If you want to toy with Puella Magi using their Witch forms, Kyouko could qualify as Rider. Her Witch, Ophelia, rides a pesudo-mechanical unicorn-thing.


Nagisa manifesting Charlotte separately and riding her snake monster form would work as well.


I could see it working both ways, with some classes having the Witch and Puella Magi separate and only using one or the other, and others having them fused (like with the Law of Cycles girls in Rebellion and Sayaka in this story). But if they were to be separate servants, I think the Witches would only qualify as Berserkers. Their madness is too deeply entrenched in their "legends" to be anything else.
Dual summon Berserker-Casters, like how Assassin or Red from Apocrypha is actually and Assassin-Caster, might work.
 
I could see it working both ways, with some classes having the Witch and Puella Magi separate and only using one or the other, and others having them fused (like with the Law of Cycles girls in Rebellion and Sayaka in this story). But if they were to be separate servants, I think the Witches would only qualify as Berserkers. Their madness is too deeply entrenched in their "legends" to be anything else.
Two words: Innocent Monster.

That skill is actually pretty scary, considering that the two most prominent examples I can think of are Elizabeth Báthory and Vlad the Impaler. (Dragon girl and vampire, respectively)
 
:rofl: Team Hero of Justice has never been so dysfunctional.
So much Redhead. Kayneth is going to drown in it.
Tokiomi has no idea how fantastic he has it right now. He has legit already won.
Waver. Accept the Mami. Embrace the Mami. Now get on the giant Clown Dragon and have some cake. With any luck your grandparents will think she's you're Waifu. :D
I really hope Kirika doesn't decide to Halp Kariya is his quest for Aoi's unrequited love.
Oriko! Don't let yourself die! Tell someone the Grail is jipped!
If Madoka want a magic cup, she's getting a magic cup. I also wonder if Kirei is going to question what it says about him that his Servant is unquestionably loyal to Tokiomi's Servant.
 
Two words: Innocent Monster.

That skill is actually pretty scary, considering that the two most prominent examples I can think of are Elizabeth Báthory and Vlad the Impaler. (Dragon girl and vampire, respectively)
According to the wiki (a dubious source, I know)...
Wiki said:
Innocent Monster (無辜の怪物, Muko no Kaibutsu?, localized as "Seraphic Monstrosity") is an attribute possessed by Servants whose true history and existence have been distorted by the monstrous reputations and gossips they accrued across the course of their life and thereafter, without concern for the actual person's will or appearance. As a consequence, the Servant's abilities and appearance have been rendered to conform to the specifications of their legend. Incidentally, this Personal Skill cannot be removed.
Since Witches actually were monsters and their legends were kept a secret by Kyubey, Innocent Monster doesn't apply to them.
 
According to the wiki (a dubious source, I know)...

Since Witches actually were monsters and their legends were kept a secret by Kyubey, Innocent Monster doesn't apply to them.
By that same token, none of the maguca should even have a legend as Kyubey would have done his best to keep them hidden too. IIRC, he goes to pretty extreme lengths to keep magic a secret, but usually just alters memories.

As the only ones to ever know about the Witches would be other maguca (I have no idea if I'm spelling that right), there is a good chance that most of them are remembered as the Witches they became rather than the Magical Girls that they were.
 
By that same token, none of the maguca should even have a legend as Kyubey would have done his best to keep them hidden too. IIRC, he goes to pretty extreme lengths to keep magic a secret, but usually just alters memories.

As the only ones to ever know about the Witches would be other maguca (I have no idea if I'm spelling that right), there is a good chance that most of them are remembered as the Witches they became rather than the Magical Girls that they were.
Yeah... but that's kinda lame, so let's ignore that.
 
Mami as Rider (with Charlotte as her mount--makes about as much sense as Medusa having the pegasus as her mount, so why not?)
To be fair Pegasus was one of her children so its not totally unreasonable to be able to summon it, even if riding pegasus wasn't really part of her myth... So yeah I see your point actually XD

Sayaka looked down at herself, then back up at the man, and raised an eyebrow. "Really? What gave that away?"

---
Kyouko sighed. "This is gonna be fun," she said, a hand coming up to her forehead. "I can tell already."

---
"Um," the pinkette chuckled nervously, scratching the side of her cheek. "Sorry about that?"
I loved all of these, so real and in character XD

"Well, if we're going to be out patrolling, we need to be mobile. Hop on!"

Waver looked at her like she'd grown a second head. Or lost her first one. "I'm not getting on that thing!"

---

Kirika looked about her surroundings. The dark, spooky walls, floor, and ceiling, the freaky-as-hell worm things, the creepy-looking old man, the less-creepy-looking man who looked like something had seriously messed with his biology...

"Okay, what the fuck."
Charlotte can be pretty intimidating XD

Kirika's reaction is completely fair and good, I like her!

And she meant it. She had no Master now, but she would sooner die (again) than have a despicable monster like him be her Master. And perhaps she would be able to find a replacement in time...

---

"You are...not what I was expecting."

Homura examined the man who had summoned her. He seemed...ordinary, but that fact that he had summoned her suggested he was anything but. "I get that a lot."
That was fantastic and felt perfect.

Oh yeah there's... There's a lot of messed up stuff in that partnership, wow.

Tokiomi has no idea how fantastic he has it right now. He has legit already won.
Indeed, Madoka is hard to kill and no one will want to!

Of course given she needs to kill and die for the wish... I wouldn't wanna be in his shoes XD

Oriko! Don't let yourself die! Tell someone the Grail is jipped!
Bit uncomfortable with that term, but she does have the skills to do that.

If Madoka want a magic cup, she's getting a magic cup. I also wonder if Kirei is going to question what it says about him that his Servant is unquestionably loyal to Tokiomi's Servant.
Good insights there.
 
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