Exploding Canon (Worm SI)

Even though canon states that "you go to the Birdcage if you violate the Truce", what that really means is that violating the Endbringer Truce is a criminal offense, carrying a life sentence or death penalty if convicted. I don't think Dragon would capture and imprison criminals without trial (in fact, she would be incapable, since that's illegal for anyone to do). Likewise, she can't imprison Colin without trial, because, by law, he would need to be charged, tried and convicted before he can be sent to the Birdcage. I'm pretty sure he was neither tried nor convicted in a court of law with a jury of his peers, so he cannot legally be considered guilty, and therefore, Dragon cannot legally imprison him.

What she can do is to arrest him on suspicion of violating the Endbringer Truce. If he isn't charged, he would need to be released in... I'm not sure how many hours. Assuming Dragon must follow the law, she literally can't detain him any longer than that duration unless an officer of the law charges him with the crime

Of course, in Worm, constitutional protections tend to be a bit weaker when it comes to parahumans...

I was being pithy/punchy instead of clear; my point is that Dragon aiding and abetting Armsmaster after he performed a criminal act and was put under house arrest for it, while possible to justify as falling inside a loophole (eg in canon we get explicitly told she can't install spyware in people's computers, but her rules don't prevent her from re-purposing other people's spyware), seems a bit of a stretch, and that more generally there's a lot of questions and implications one can raise that canon doesn't really address, such as how there are laws on the books that aren't enforced in day-to-day life and will only get pulled out when a lawyer wants to 'throw the book' at someone. (ie there are places that still have laws about needing to have someone walking in front of your car, ringing a bell, to avoid upsetting the horses that are assumed to be sharing the street, but these only get used when it's time to slap as many years of prison time as possible on a rapist serial killer or the like) Or, as I've seen other people raise, what about stuff like African warlords? Does Dragon have to obey their laws on their soil if she shows up? What happens in the case of a coup or similar, where the governmental authorities are changed in an unlawful way and install themselves as the lawmakers and so on? Does Dragon get to say 'lolno'? Does she get to say 'lolno' right up until some cut-off point where her internal metrics declare they're a legitimate government?

If you don't examine it closely, it seems reasonable enough, and the writer-level motivation of keeping Dragon more constrained in the setting than her 'seed AI' nature ostensibly allows her to be is obvious, but if you think too deeply on it, it's a bit hard to believe it's really as true as canon implies, and it's only really necessary to justify Paige's Interlude -and even then, only to the extent that claiming Dragon has that limitation absolves her of all possible guilt for participating in that misjustice, where a regular fleshy hero could also feel guilty and do it anyway and just be more open to criticism from fans.

If it is the wording used in canon, Wildbow failed his AI classes. He isn't the first one, but still.

Richter cannot be sure that his wording of laws a good, ethical person must follow is foolhardy. There is a big, if subtle difference here. He can have very good confidence that Dragon, being a program, will have the rules he put in her, and, barring bugs, will follow them. But he doesn't know exactly what a good, ethical person IS, and it might backfire in fringe cases.

Have you ever actually programmed anything in your life? Because I haven't, and I still know that actual factual programmers who do this for a living and are experts in their field still get their code producing results they weren't expecting, sometimes wildly different from their intentions, and sometimes never figure out what the issue is. (A particularly memorable story; in Tiberian Sun's development, at some point a bug occurred where rapidly clicking on an MCV as it deployed would cause it to disappear entirely. The programmers had no idea why it was happening, and equally had no idea why it stopped happening after a few updates)

Maybe Richter puts in code that says Dragon should feel bad about killing people. His code-scanning tools confirm the code is inside her, he talks with Dragon about how she feels about the possibility of people dying, and Dragon appears adequately bothered by the idea and Richter's code-scanning tools confirm that bit of code is activating as expected...

... but Richter doesn't realize this aspect of Dragon's emotions is an unsigned byte with no accounting for underflow and Dragon will, if she kills someone, feel so bad that the number underflows and now she actually is orgasmically ecstatic over killing someone, and Richter's code that was supposed to be a basic ethical rule that couldn't possibly have been fucked up (Right? Right?) has instead produced Serial Killer Dragon.

For reference, my example is based on reality. "Let's make Gandhi peaceful, because he was in real life!" "Sounds good." "... why is Ghandi the quickest to turn his nukes on everyone?" "We made him too peaceful."

(I don't actually remember how Worm worded it exactly and honestly don't care, for reasons like I just laid out)

Unless the Travelers are teleconferencing for work from a Simurgh containment zone, I think someone's forgotten something here.

Already got pointed out, and...

double-checks

... tweaked to a different idea.


Oh, thanks!
 
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siiighhh
look, I'm normally quite partial to Worm debates. But this is getting ridiculous. Could y'all stop nagging so the author can actually write the story again?
 
Maybe Richter puts in code that says Dragon should feel bad about killing people. His code-scanning tools confirm the code is inside her, he talks with Dragon about how she feels about the possibility of people dying, and Dragon appears adequately bothered by the idea and Richter's code-scanning tools confirm that bit of code is activating as expected...

... but Richter doesn't realize this aspect of Dragon's emotions is an unsigned byte with no accounting for underflow and Dragon will, if she kills someone, feel so bad that the number underflows and now she actually is orgasmically ecstatic over killing someone, and Richter's code that was supposed to be a basic ethical rule that couldn't possibly have been fucked up (Right? Right?) has instead produced Serial Killer Dragon.

And, of course, that's before getting into the complications of neural nets, which can make low-level assumptions that are completely incomprehensible to human oversight. A simple example would be adversarial patches, where a small image that looks like total gibberish can be used to fool machine learning systems into thinking one thing is something else completely.

 
And, of course, that's before getting into the complications of neural nets, which can make low-level assumptions that are completely incomprehensible to human oversight. A simple example would be adversarial patches, where a small image that looks like total gibberish can be used to fool machine learning systems into thinking one thing is something else completely.


So what you're telling me is that Ascalon was disguised as a banana?
 
Have you ever actually programmed anything in your life?
Yes. It's not a core of my job, but a significant part of it, so I'm speaking from personal experience. It isn't that hard, but very time-consuming.

Bugs are not the main concern, there are methodologies to deal with them. Getting good technical requirements and translating them into design documents is a problem, though, because there is no well established formal methodology for it. Coding is a practical technical skill, design is less technical, but there are formal methodologies for it. Writing technical requirements, especially when working with concepts from humanities ? Practically an art form.

Games are not a good example here, because they are not correctness-critical applications and thus coders cut a lot of corners to be cost-efficient.

And, of course, that's before getting into the complications of neural nets,
Neural nets are not a good basis for strong AI. When we think, we do so using statements/definitions in a language, and statements are best represented by abstract syntax trees. Neural networks in ML on the other hand work in terms of numeric weights.
 
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Cauldron keeps fucking ignoring me. Dragon hasn't beamed an Abaddon Code into my brain so we can link up and engage in a sinister alien plot of humanitarian aid. The Simurgh dust continues to not let me do exotic shit to it, aside the occasional false hope. Whoopee, I can turn her blue now if I want. Why the hell would I want to do that, and why did it happen in response to a bomb that makes everything in its radius temporarily act like a magnet? Is the Simurgh deliberately fucking with me? Is that it?

Ugh, fine.

Day twenty-two of my goddamn hunt for Taylor to try to... secure her because she's apparently important in most every timeline or something stupid like that. Seriously, why is that? If fanfics are just less-probable precog scenarios, it's not about getting Queen Administrator! It's actually something about Taylor!

Christ, it's like I'm in one of those stories where destiny gets invoked so the writer doesn't have to come up with a real explanation for anything.

…. okay, not really. The equivalent to that would be for Lisa or Dinah to have dropped this shit on me without explanation and directed me to go rescue Taylor because their goddamn Thinker powers said it's important.

Still feels like it's in the vicinity of a destiny plot, though.

Like, I'd assume she's also an Abaddon plot, and I'm being directed to think she's important because of that, but that doesn't really seem to fit the facts. For one thing, the canon timeline has her explicitly getting one of Scion's shards, no ambiguity about it, which would be a weird lie for Abaddon to go out of its way to tell me when it could have just left the point not explicitly answered. More importantly... like, a big part of why I'm inclined to think Dragon is an Abaddon plot is that she's not just a fixture of importance across fanfics in addition to canon, it's that she's consistent to an extent that is pretty fucking weird. Like, Emma and Sophia tended to be broadly the same as far as Sophia being Shadow Stalker, both of them bullying Taylor, etc, but in some fanfics Sophia is the primary pusher of the bullying and Emma is just kinda nodding along and smiling as Sophia kicks in Taylor's teeth, in other fanfics Sophia isn't terribly interested in bullying Taylor and it's only because Emma is stuck on Taylor they're still doing it, I seem to recall there actually being one where Madison was the one who was keeping momentum going...

… vs Dragon being super-consistent, even compared to other characters who had a lot of screentime in canon and who also shouldn't be readily butterflied by alt-power Taylor premises. Brian, for example, whose canon personality was fairly straightforward and consistent aside the second trigger trauma changing him some, and then fanfic tends to make him more of a goofball than in canon, and often just straight-up makes Tattletale the explicit leader instead of doing the canon thing of pretending Grue is Head Undersider but then mostly having Tattletale drive the decision-making process, plus a few other things that are weird. Like that meme about him getting with Purity. I never got that one. It's not like the meme actually depicted them with chemistry- getting distracted.

Point is, Taylor being not super-consistent is inconsistent with that element. If she's an Abaddon plot, she's... what, one that's very adaptable, changing her abilities and personality to navigate whatever exact timeline actually results? I mean, that's possible and all, but that's less me trying to develop a coherent theory and more me acknowledging edge cases exist.

Whatever, I'm searching. Still no costume, dressed heavier than I'd prefer because it's actually pretty fucking cold right now for whatever exact reason -Brockton Bay is supposed to be warmer than average, according to WoG, but I'm not sure how to take WoG in the context of 'canon and fanfic is probably precog scenarios', so I'm not sure that actually applies, even aside the writer being Canadian and I always felt they completely failed to grasp the degree to which they were projecting Canadian ideas of cold dozens of miles south where it's not appropriate- and carting around a bunch of nonlethals and some lethals.

I'm actually wearing my costume's mask, because it eventually occurred to me that it's probably better to signal up front I'm a cape rather than looking like a civilian who raided PRT HQ's armory or whatever being covered in grenades causes people to think, but otherwise I'm still not bothering with a costume. Since I cannibalized my old one and my power isn't exactly cooperative on making a new one. How do most capes get started in that regard, anyway? Canon Taylor had a built-in explanation for most of her costume, but most capes are, what, buying from Halloween stores?...

Anyway, I'm also bringing a stack of sticky notes and a pen. I had the thought a couple days ago that if a place seems like it might be a spot Taylor is hanging out at, just not at the moment I'm in it, I can write up a note explaining that I want to link up with her, and... god, I dunno what else I'll write on the note, but it's an idea. Maybe a hideout will seem to be running low on food, and I'll advertise that I'm set for life on food? And just not bother to mention that Cauldron is involved.

Not sure how I'll handle that bit if she does come with. Mind, that's in part because I honestly have no goddamn clue what the Simurgh will have done with Taylor, but honestly even if it weren't for that I'm not sure how I'd go about broaching that topic. "Oh yeah, there's an extradimensional conspiracy, and I helped them with the Simurgh, kinda, not that it helped that much, and now I have room and board for life even though they won't evacuate me from this hole because it turns out David actually keeps his word."

… huh. That sounds a little less crazy when I think it out than when I was operating on half-formed ideas of how to explain this. And Taylor does know other dimensions exist...

Regardless...

The amazing thing about combing Brockton Bay for Taylor is how boring it's turned out to be. I was expecting roving murder-gangs and shit, but it's clear there's really not that many people around, and most of them are hunkering down, trying to not draw trouble. The busiest part of town is Northerly, where the wall has a gate and roving spotlights and what I'm pretty sure are machine gun nests mounted atop towers. I was just kinda question marking at that for a few days until I remembered that the Travelers' arc did, in fact, involve making it clear that people were eventually let out of Simurgh quarantine, after a lot of therapy and shit, and that this was kinda implied to be normal for a post-Simurgh event.

I've always found that a weird plotpoint, all things considered, but it's at least good to know I might eventually be able to get out without having to blow a hole in a wall or anything?

Not that I've bothered to actually approach that section of town. I don't like waiting in lines when the lines aren't made of Simurgh-subverted people who may or may not decide they'd like some Soylent Green upon sighting me. I also don't need the supplies I've seen get airdropped in a few times, since Cauldron is handling my necessities for me. And I've already got my boobytrapped motel to hide in, so there being guards ready to gun down crazed zombies or the like isn't really a plus for me, probably a minus given I suspect they'd have an itchy trigger finger regarding me.

Anyway, point is, there is no Worm-esque 'it's been quiet for five seconds, the writer is bored, ROLL FOR INITIATIVE' constant stream of murderhobos for me to fend off. Any given day is primarily spent on searching empty apartments, offices, etc, occasionally being startled by particularly gruesome corpses, and scooping up some more Simurgh dust when I inevitably decide I should turn around and get some rest.

Really, having time to think on it, that makes sense. Video games stuffing the post-apocalypse with an infinite supply of raiders for you to murder for experience and loot isn't because that makes the slightest bit of real-world sense, it's because it's a goddamn video game where core content is centered around killing things for experience and loot, so the game is going to be designed so you hit that content readily and regularly. By a similar token, stories that do much the same are... well, fucking lazy and ill-thought out in most cases, for one, but my point is that it's narratively useful to take it as a given that you can kick off new plot beats at any time by having assholes show up and do something the protagonist has to respond to. Those are both foundations that encourage filling the streets with murderhobos to interact with.

In reality, though... people were evacuating when the Simurgh hit. Most capes that didn't successfully evacuate would've had their heads exploded for the safety of the world. The region has been sealed off, so immigrating here is hard and also almost no one is going to even want to try. People keep dying, whether because I freak out and kill them because holy fuck Simurgh why, or because they're Simurgh bombs and Simurgh bombs do shit like eat people like it's the most natural thing in the world, or because people outside my awareness are getting into fights over limited resources and shit, or because the phasing plague assholes catch a building with people inside.

There's probably still a pretty solid number of people in the city in total just because it was... what, 50,000 or so to start? And 20 minutes is not a lot of time to evacuate -it can take twenty minutes to get from one part of a not-that-large town to the other, by car- even if I assume the Protectorate had capes evacuating people with teleportation and the like. Without an insanely bullshit power I should've already heard about one way or another, there's no way they evaced 90% of everyone in time.

But the density being way, way down really is the logical outcome, and since I'm avoiding the part of town that has obvious reason for people to crowd it, of course my experience is going to be fairly sparse on people.

Especially since Brockton Bay is a 'build out, not up' sort of city, so the square-foot density of people is already lower than some places. This isn't New York, as the obvious US comparison point. I'd already kinda assumed that from my memories, and everything I've seen so far has borne that out; there's some gleaming glass spires over in one part of town near-ish the coast, including one that I'm pretty sure has a logo meant to say 'Medhall', but it's just the one corner. Most of the city is dominated by one-to-two-story buildings.

Anyway, with wandering about I think I might know what's going on with the phasing assholes, as far as why they haven't spread to the extent I'd have expected. I spotted one sleeping under a park bench earlier today, and I know it's a phasing asshole because they sat up through the bench, looked about with a way-too-wide grin on their face for a few minutes, and then eventually looked disappointed and laid back down, while I crouched against a low wall with one hand on a black hole bomb, ready to throw. I think they're... well, like movie zombies or something, not really doing much of anything unless there's recently been a human presence riling them up. So the plague of them hasn't spread as insanely as I expected because the density of people is actually fairly low, most people aren't wandering around, scavenging, the way I am, and the phasing assholes just... go to sleep if no one is around.

I suspect they're cheating on metabolic considerations, too, since hunting for food really ought to bring them in contact with other people at a fairly rapid clip if they, you know, need to eat. I'd expect them to have all converged on the gate and either died or infested that whole area, given how much time has passed and how food lying around is largely all looted or spoiled by now. This is also consistent with them not mobbing my hideout; they're not constantly on the prowl for people, and prior to looking for Taylor I wasn't actually ranging that far out, either, so I wouldn't have had much opportunity to 'activate' them.

Anyway, searching the city, looking for unnatural bug behavior, yadda yadda. Still keeping an eye out for materials for Tinkering, too, of course. Idly wondering if any Simurgh plots have succeeded through people released from a quarantine zone after being affirmed as adequately sane. My impulse thought is no, since if it was yes I'd honestly expect releases to simply stop forever, but then again Worm has some pretty weird degrees of second chance rubrics, like how people who really ought to have been executed get Birdcaged, or how Tattletale claims early on it takes multiple serious offenses for a cape to actually get carted off to a serious jail, so maybe it happened a couple of times but people kept right on letting Simurgh victims out after a lot of therapy and all because just killing them all was considered too inhumane?

Then I spot a mass of curly black hair moving behind a window.

I pause a moment, taking stock, checking for threats in the area. I mean, curly black hair isn't unambiguous proof I've found Taylor, but it's more promising than anything else I've seen. And... maaaaaybe there's more bugs flitting about than average? I might be imagining that, but still, I wanna say there's more bugs in the area than I've gotten used to post-Simurgh.

Okay, no other (apparent...) threats in the area... do I call out to her and hope she doesn't try to kill me? I mean, she should know I'm here already, but maybe the Simurgh made her twitchy about sounds? And, I mean, people tend to find me grating when I talk, I'm in a cape mask, covered in grenades... fuck, I'd probably guess I was hostile if I called out to me.

Okay, let's not call out to her.

Well, hitting her with a nonlethal grenade seems... bad. Like, trust problems, obviously, but also Taylor's bug control doesn't go away just because you've tied her up or something, right? So not really a solution unless I block her portal, too, and there's... several reasons I'm leery of doing that. Taylor is blatantly offloading some of her cognition onto her shard in canon, and I'd hate to learn that inexplicably includes her autonomous breathing by virtue of whoops killing her. That'd be insanely stupid... but Entities. I can't discount this degree of that kind of stupidity.

Plus, I still haven't managed to get my shard to cooperate on recreating the portal blocking device. I'm carrying a portal-blocking bomb, but those keep doing something to me too, and it's not like that's a long-term solution anyway. They last, like, 60 seconds or so, and no I cannot build a replacement in that time, even ignoring losing time to them myself.

But even if I had the portal-blocking device on me, that seems like a bad plan.

Eventually I sigh to myself and just start making my way to the window, deliberately making more noise than I normally make when walking. My default is sneaky enough I've spooked people unintentionally, and I'm trying to not have this end in, "Aaaah! Not the bees!"

At the window, I can't see anyone inside. I mean, there's no lights on inside, and the sun is in the wrong position to cast light very far into the building right now, but even as Bakuda I seem to see better-than-average in the dark.

… which might be because my memories are fake and in actuality Bakuda has better-than-average vision in the dark and I have such memories to subtly prepare me for the body I was made to be plugged into...

… point is, I can see this is a kitchen and that Taylor isn't in it. I'd throw in a qualifier about her maybe being in the cupboards, but they're all open, with not much in the way of dishes and all inside them. The qualifier I will throw in is that powers make anything possible so she could be inside and just hidden by some weird new trigger. Hell, for all I know Imp triggered during all this shit but with an area-of-effect notice-me-not field.

I'd say my ability to remember suggests otherwise, but I have no goddamn clue how such a power would interact with fake memories, not even touching on the fact that my cognition may be sitting in a shard that's not fully cooperating with everybody else playing the Scion And Eden Game.

I sigh loudly to myself, less because I feel that frustrated or disappointed and more as an excuse to make relatively innocuous noise. I wasn't really expecting Taylor to be right there.

Alright, this is part of an apartment building. I could just climb in through the window, but the window is busted open and for some reason somebody jammed bits of glass into the edges like this window has razor-sharp glass teeth. That's dangerous, and not something I can readily and safely fix without using a bomb, and I'm trying to be non-threatening right now.

It also suggests that either there's a Simurgh'd asshole wandering around, setting these up for some mysterious precog asshole reason -I'm not even going to pretend she's not an asshole anymore, at this point I suspect she came down to Brockton Bay because I'm an Abaddon missile and she wanted to contain or kill me or something, so I'm doubting she's doing some long game thing for my benefit, and after that thing with the family hell fucking no on benefit of the doubt- or that somebody is actually living in this apartment. I... doubt it's Taylor living in here. She'd probably go back to her house, if anywhere, or hang in the Undersider's loft. I'm not entirely clear what kind of building their loft was, but it certainly wasn't a plain-jane wall o' bricks apartment building.

So probably I just spotted someone else with a big head of curly black hair.

Great.

Nonetheless, I make my way around to the front of the building. The front door is already open, by which I mean it's been knocked off its hinges and has a big splintered spot in the upper portion of it. A Brute bashed it down, I guess? I check the entryway carefully for, like, tripwires and stuff, but nothing leaps out at me. I'd like to imagine my tinker specialty being traps instead of bombs gives me some kind of edge at detecting traps, but it's not like I've had anything obvious happen like a trap being highlighted in gold in my vision like I'm in a goddamn video game.

So I still step cautious as I go inside. Somebody made the window dangerous, at great effort. It'd be kind of weird if they didn't do anything equivalent for the front entrance.

Nothing happens, though. I'm just in a foyer place, with a TV sitting in one corner. It's not on or anything, but it looks like it's in good condition? There's also a wall of mailboxes set in a wall on the opposite side of the foyer, to my right. Several of them have had their little door things ripped open, 'ripped' as in 'I can see where the metal tore as it was pulled on by inhuman strength'. Brute power, or a weird Striker power that let them get leverage in improbable situations, or something. Wonder why they were searching the mailboxes apparently at random, though? Mail is one of the things I'd most expect to be ignored in an Endbringer crisis, and I'm having trouble imagining why the Simurgh would cause someone to go digging through mailboxes. Hmmm. Conspicuously weird.

I continue to wander vaguely toward the apartment I maybe saw Taylor through a window of, keeping an eye out for traps of any sort and also just keeping an eye out for weirdness in general. Also feeling paranoid about the phasing assholes, though unless the person I saw is a phasing asshole it shouldn't be an issue, because whoever I saw would've woken them up and they'd have done their thing to this building already. But still, walls being nearby means phasing assholes can show up with basically no warning.

God, why can't I think of a horror game using that combination of ideas? It would be tremendously assholish, but horror games tend to think 'be obnoxious to the player' is part and parcel of producing horror, so that wouldn't stop anyone...

I walk past bloodstains against the walls, but no bodies in the area to have left them. No evidence of blood-based drag marks, either. Power? Or the blood dried, and then the bodies got moved? The wallpaper reverses color in patches here and there, though I'm not sure if that's evidence of weird power mechanics or just somebody having fun with interior decoration. Roaches keep noticing me coming and scrambling for hiding places. Haven't seen any rats, but I've seen fewer in the city than I was kind of expecting, so I'm not sure if my expectations are incorrect or if something weird is happening in the city.

Lotta doors just wide open, too. I keep popping my head in once I think I'm more or less in the right part of the building, but the first three are clearly wrong. The first one has a half-rotten dog corpse lying in the open, the second one is littered with abandoned goods I would've seen through the window and didn't, and the third one has clear fire damage.

The fourth door I go to is closed, and when I turn the knob it turns out it's locked. Suggestive. Also inconvenient; maybe I should've tried to go through the window after all?

Ugh, I'm not sure how to approach this while seeming non-threatening. The situation is threatening, anyone in the city is competition even if they're not a Simurgh bomb, etc. I'm not sure I can seem adequately non-threatening.

I sigh loudly again, and decide to try talking after all. "Hey, uh, I saw someone in here? You alright? They're doing the supply drops up North, if you're low on food or something that's the place to go." No response. I knock once, and raise my voice a bit, worried that'll get me sounding angry even though I'm not. "Or maybe you need medical care? I assume you've figured out a solution to the running water being seawater when it isn't green shit... unless maybe you've been relying on bottled water and are running low? They're airdropping clean water up North, too." I pause for a moment, realizing I sound like I have an agenda. I mean, I do, but I sound like I have the wrong agenda. "Uh, not trying to push you to go North, I actually haven't bothered myself 'cause I'm situated and don't want to deal with the crowds, but I was kinda figuring you'd take me offering to shack up with me as me offering candy while asking you to come into my van?"

… that sounded better in my head. Less sexually predatory, in particular. Maybe I'll get lucky and that thing where it never crosses people's minds to interpret women as sexual predators even when it's really, really obvious will still apply in Bet America? Hell, canon Taylor came across bi-leaning in that derpy 'I'm so convinced I'm heterosexual that kissing a girl is a completely platonic joke, honest' manner, so even if it's not normal for Bet America, if this is Taylor it still might not cross her mind to take it that way.

I sigh again, irritated with myself regardless. Not going to point out how that sounds, hope it didn't cross their mind to take it that way... assuming someone is actually here. "Trying to make sure you're okay, is the point."

Still no response. Really quiet in general, still a bit weirded out how quiet Brockton Bay is with the city sealed. Even with having thought out how it kinda makes sense, especially with no cars running about and all, it's still a little eerie to be obviously inside city limits and yet things are quiet.

Okay, fine, let's go back to the window-

I stop, blink, rub at my eyes, and yes there's still a blob of roaches spelling out go away on the wall. I can't stop myself from grinning; I have found Taylor! (Not necessarily, but very very likely) I mean yeah she's telling me to leave, but I was expecting that. I wave at the roaches in greeting, more or less. "I dunno if you caught any of that, but I was asking if you're okay? You need anything?"

Go away, Oni Lady, the roaches update to.

My smile goes a bit rictis-y, because come the fuck on I'm not an Oni Lee knockoff with boobs!

… but I take a calming breath. "I can't tell if you can hear me. Are you okay? I can come back with bandages or something." I don't have any bandages, but I might be able to Tinker something up, and for all I know Cauldron will have left behind bandages when I get back. Or I might scavenge some up. Some actually-clean ones, I mean.

I'm fine go away

I frown a little at that. "I'd like to take you at your word, but you know who I am so I assume you think I'm a racist supervillain who threatened to blow up her university over bad grades, so I have to wonder if you're just trying to not let on about problems on the idea I'd jump on weakness or something."

Go away I'm fine

I sigh again. "I'm coming back tomorrow with some supplies, so you're forewarned. And to be clear I'm not expecting you to trust me here, feel free to check them with bugs or something... just, uh, not roaches, please? Roaches crawl through toilet pipes and literal shit and all, I'd hate for you to give yourself an infection because you were suspicious my bandages were tinkertech bullshit."

Go away

I sigh yet again. "See you tomorrow."

Then I leave, making mental notes of landmarks as I go so I can find this apartment building again.

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No, Cauldron didn't conveniently drop off bandages or anything. Not sure if that means Contessa isn't bullshit, or if she is but she doesn't care, or if she is but Taylor doesn't need bandages, or what.

Regardless, I fab up a few grenades with antimicrobial properties. The first three go in the rejects pile, because they're more of those grenades I've already made that also kill gut flora and fauna and all too and so would cause diarrhea and all, but the next couple go into my 'trips outside' pile; these ones explode into a soapy substance that shunts assorted microbial life into some other dimension or something.

Then I really cotton on to what I've just made, go test one of them on one of the rooms I've been avoiding that has a particularly severe roach and mold problem...

… and five minutes later the roaches are upset but sparkling clean (Like, seriously, they're literally glittering what the hell), and the mold is all gone, barely any sign it ever existed. When I tentatively poke a toe into the soapy mass, the black grime accumulating on it from walking constantly without properly bathing vanishes and there's no pain or weirdness.

Holy shit this is perfect. Thank you, power, for cooperating for once!

… shit, this is more evidence Taylor is important to Abaddon's plot somehow, isn't it?...

I spend the rest of the afternoon making more of these grenades and deploying them throughout my hotel lair, starting with cleaning up my sleeping space and attendant bathroom (Water running green doesn't make the toilets unusable, so that's been convenient), and then my workshop area in the lobby, and then whatever random rooms are particularly filthy.

Then I collapse, feeling nauseous like I always do when my environment is suddenly a lot less unhealthy for me, and sleep.

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I knock on the building's fallen front door to announce my presence, though it's probably redundant. I've got a wheelbarrow full of scrubbing bubble grenades, some of the food Cauldron has been providing me, tampons also from Cauldron, some shirts I cleaned with scrubbing bubble grenades on the idea they can act as makeshift bandages if Taylor needs any, and some kinda random shit I picked up on the way, like a toaster, 'cause I really have no idea what Taylor's current situation is.

Hauling said wheelbarrow of crap into the building isn't exactly quiet, and even if I'm still not sure whether bug presence in the area is above-average, there's certainly enough Taylor should've seen and heard me coming through them if she hasn't vacated the area entirely. Which... I kinda am doubting she's left already. The insistence I go away makes me think she wasn't willing, or wasn't able, to leave. I'd expect her to have simply escaped and not let on she was present, if she could leave readily. She was walking when I briefly saw her, pretty sure, so 'able' probably isn't the issue. I'm not sure why 'not willing' would be the issue, but it seems the most probable possibility.

Hmmm. Didn't Brian have an apartment? I've been kinda going 'why would Taylor be stubbornly sticking to an apartment', but I'd honestly forgotten until literally this second that Brian has an apartment in canon and Taylor gets shown it... pretty early, I think? Maybe she's sentimental, or maybe she's worried Brian is also trapped and is waiting here just in case he comes back?

Or it could just be a random apartment and she actually is injured or something, just something less... obvious. A gut injury or something that doesn't let her walk for long.

Eventually I get the wheelbarrow into the building, sit down for a second because ow that was hard, and then notice there's bugs on one wall. Go away, Oni Lady.

RrrrRRGH.

Deep sigh. Calm yourself, Bakuda. She's been Simurgh'd, and as far as most people know I'm a racist supervillain who blew up over bad grades -fuck, it just occurred to me that while I blew up her school as a favor to her, she would absolutely have taken that in some... well, I'm not sure exactly, but there's no way she didn't find it threatening through some logic or another.

Deep sigh again. Goddammit, this is going to be an uphill thing the whole way, isn't it? Above and beyond whatever dark cloud of social doom hovers over me everywhere I -wait, I was theorizing dogs just notice I'm not right and my memories faked up them hating me so I wouldn't question it, but I also know humans can be pretty sensitive to shit they don't consciously notice. Maybe my remembered dark cloud of social doom was to psychologically prepare me for people noticing I'm not right and being wigged out by it without consciously realizing it.



god, my memories really do make so much more sense if I'm just an Abaddon missile and it's all targeted for effect

Okay! On the plus side, if that is indeed the issue, Taylor is seeing me through her bugs and so probably can't pick up on whatever subtly wrong shit I'm doing that makes people go PURGE THE XENO.

… wait, is that why I have memories of 40k, so I'd be prepared for people wanting to kill me with fire for not being A Real Human Being?

Damn. I hope Dawn of War is a real game, at least, I'd hate for one of the best games of my memories to be faked-up nonsense.

Taylor's bugs have updated themselves to Oni Lady, go away while I was ruminating on how my life makes so much more sense as faked-up bullshit to prep me for my role as an alien sleeper agent that thinks it's human in spite of not being able to pass for one particularly believably. Wait, does this mean I was wrong when I thought the author was overestimating how off-putting people would find Case 53s? Shit, maybe people are way more readily wigged-out by not-fully-human appearances than I've historically believed.

Whatever, focus. Taylor is still here, so yeah she either can't leave or won't leave. She's... well, a captive audience. For at least a bit.

I stand up and start hauling the wheelbarrow over toward the door I'm pretty sure Taylor is behind, grunting with the effort. It's a pain, but I also throw in some talking. "Hey, the, uh, yellow pill-shaped things with the pull-tabs are my scrubbing bubble... um, grenades, technically, but it's not lethal or anything it's just how my Tinkering works don't worry about it. I've already tested them on... actually, crap, I never did test on open wounds. Um. Anyway! Point is, they won't hurt your bugs but they'll clear out mold and virii and other such unpleasant shit so you don't have to worry about infection so much. Won't help if you're already sick, unless I guess you want to ingest one but I wouldn't recommend that I'm pretty sure there's more mass coming out of the grenades than ought to make physics sense, like I tried weighing one, then detonating it and weighing that but it was kinda messy and I'm not sure I didn't just fuck up somehow but it sure seemed like there was suddenly more weight from nowhere because powers do that kinda shit-"

I'm almost to her door, and there's another bug message on the wall. That's nice. Go away.

Oh hey, she's even using punctuation now! Or maybe she was doing that yesterday and I just didn't notice?

"-plus there's some food, there's a toaster or something, there's tampons-"

The bugs jitter in a weird manner, spreading out briefly like Taylor lost control or something, and after a few seconds draw out a new sentence. Leave tampons.

Ooooh. I think she has period cramps. Is... is that why she's not leaving? Is she laid up with period cramps? That'd be kind of weird given canon Taylor never had period cramps, but then again the writer never acknowledged any female biological factoids of any kind (Well, except Purity's pregnancy in passing in backstory, I suppose), and also she's gone through a whole lot of stress and shit of a brand-new kind. I seem to recall reading once that periods can start early in response to external stressors, so maybe the Simurgh arriving kickstarted her period where canon stress never did? She never did fight the Simurgh in canon, and fanfics tend to shy away from the topi-

-fuck, probably because precogs interfere with each other for perfectly naturalistic mechanical reasons and so memories of stories based on precog can't really touch on her too heavily with any possibility of being accurate. Goddammit, my life makes so much more sense like this it's ridiculous!

Whatever. Back to talking while I get the wheelbarrow set up to not fall over. "Yeah, periods suck." I feel like I should be saying something else here that will make Taylor interpret me as relatable and likable and friendly, but my mind fails me and it's difficult to stay focused on the topic when it occurs to me that this aspect of my social awkwardness is itself probably an outgrowth of me being a fake personality made by an alien that only kind of gets human shit. Ugh. Fuck. Whatever. "I was going to leave the whole thing, though, I've already cleaned my space like mad and seriously I'm set for food and shit and ah crap if I knew you were having period cramps I'd have tried to scavenge some chocolate on the way." That's supposed to help with period cramps, from what I've read. Too bad Cauldron hasn't given me any chocolate. It's mostly stuff like cereal or nutrient bars. Even the birthday card didn't come with cupcakes or anything like that.

Still, I can at least make things easier and dig out the box of tampons instead of leaving it down near-ish the bottom of this mass of crap. Make it easier for Taylor to get after I've left. So that's what I do.

I startle and jump away when bees or hornets or something buzz in, never liked those kinds of bugs, but I manage to relax a little when I notice they're incongruously carrying spiders and silk is being released. I watch with fascination as, over the course of a few minutes, they arrange to hook up a large number of flying bugs to the box of tampons, and then awkwardly fly off down the hall, I'm guessing to go fly it in via the window I first spotted her through.

That was cool to see in action. Really cool. Why do people in canon find Taylor creepy, again?

"Oh, right!" I start digging, where did I put the cans?... ah, there we go, some kind of... off-brand orange soda that I've already determined I personally can't stand. I'm not sure if I don't recognize its specific off-brand because Bet wait fuck Omicron probably isn't real that possibility probably doesn't matter at all argh this is going to take forever to properly adjust to. Whatever, I hold the 2-liter bottle up. "I dunno if you've got allergies or something so this particular soda would be a problem for you, but fluids are important, seawater is bad to drink, contaminated seawater is worse, so I brought this. I mean, I have it on hand because it was on the way and I've been ignoring it because I can't stand this stuff, but different taste buds, different bodily needs."

Go away, says Taylor's bugs on the wall.

I frown a little. "I was planning on leaving soon anyway, but this is kiiinda concerning. I'm having difficulty imagining the bugs are somehow delivering fresh, potable water, and I can tell this building has been pretty heavily cleaned out. You die if you don't drink anything for, I think it was three days though it has wiggle room? But you're a-" Wait shit don't let on that you're pretty sure you know this is Taylor the teenage girl who most certainly does not have enough fat stored away to survive dehydration particularly long.

There's an awkward pause, and then Taylor's bugs spell out Go away, Oni Lady.

Hmmm. I don't remember if she'd figured out how to talk through her bugs this early in canon. I recall it was kinda a difficult feat for her, but early canon it also wasn't a super-relevant ability so I don't actually remember when she figured it out. Is she not verbalizing through her bugs because she hasn't figured out how, yet, or?...

I'm also a bit surprised she's being so reasonable. I was really expecting to be attacked by now, what with her being Simurgh'd and all. Hmm.

I catch myself pacing, thinking, then wonder why Abaddon would make me a pacer in the first place, then remind myself to not get distracted, only to get promptly distracted by that dog corpse. I'm about to re-focus, except... wait, why is there a dog corpse here? I'd expect Taylor to feed it to her bugs if only to not have to smell it, or to have had her bugs haul it out of the building, or something, if she's been here even slightly long-term.

In fact, looking closer at it, it's... like, I don't know when it died, obviously, but there's no bugs on it. No flies buzzing it. No evidence of fly eggs having been laid in it. No roaches checking it out, trying to decide whether blood is food or not. Which normally I'd sort of write off as weird, maybe avoid the body more than usual out of worry that it's infected with something weird, possibly power-based, but I'm almost completely confident I'm dealing with Taylor here, and if I'm not it's certainly someone who can control bugs.

So the body being conspicuously avoided suggests the controller is deliberately preventing bugs from chewing on the corpse.



That's Judas or something, isn't it? One of Bitch's dogs. That's... a little depressing. I have difficulty imagining Bitch leaving one of her dogs behind to save her own skin. Did she die during the attack? That'd suck, I actually like her.

I wave vaguely at the dog body. "Were they yours?"

There's a long period where I'm honestly expecting to be told to fuck off and leave, but eventually when I glance about I see a wall has bug-text. Friend of a friend.

I nod vaguely at that. So yeah, one of Bitch's dogs. Dammit. And the fact that Taylor is protecting the corpse... it really suggests to me that Bitch died, that Taylor is kinda indirectly mourning Bitch or honoring her memory or something by protecting one of her dogs. Taylor didn't hate the dogs in canon or anything, but she never connected to them. Even in fanfic I don't think I ever saw Taylor emotionally connect to any dogs, let alone Bitch's dogs.

I always found that a bit weird, but I guess Taylor is really not a dog person, pretty much no matter what other stuff happens?

I shuffle awkwardly. I've never known how to react to other people being sad about dead friends and family and all, and if Taylor is anything like in canon that's... even less helpful. My three-and-a-half data points are; her mother died, and this hit her hard, she freaked out when it occurred to her Shatterbird's scream was dangerous to her dad, Regent's death didn't seem to move her at all even though it was played as a tragedy, but then when Alexandria was pretending to kill the other Undersiders she ended up killing Alexandria in response to the ongoing threat. I wanna say what pushed her over the edge was Alexandria indicating she was going for Tattletale next? I remember her getting into contact with Tattletale by having her bugs dial a phone, so she should've thought Tattletale wasn't dead yet, but I don't remember that part of the story very well.

Regardless, that's... limited data, with absolutely no examples of someone comforting Taylor on-screen. I always kind of took it as assumed that Emma comforted her after Annette died, but, again, it's not actually depicted.

So above and beyond being unfamiliar with it in general, I have no idea what Taylor in particular would find comforting vs condescending vs creepily intrusive, etc. Especially in the context of being a known psycho supervillain. Ugh, Taylor started out being, basically, bigoted against villains, irrationally assuming bad stuff not in the general sense of 'there's gotta be a reason they're labeled villains' but more like how someone who's racist invents unpleasant explanations for innocuous interactions with whatever ethnicity they hate. I forget when she told herself she was being shitty to the Undersiders and should give them a real chance, but I do recall it took a bit.

So very possibly she's still in that headspace of 'labeled supervillain, therefore everything is an evil plot, therefore be hostile', and would take sympathy as fake or mocking or something even if I was sincere and didn't have the doom cloud of social failure following me everywhere.

… this is probably why she's constantly insisting I go away and all, isn't it.

Ugh.

I sigh again, and check if Taylor's bugs are spelling anything out, but no, not right now.

I hesitate, wonder if I should be doing something symbolic like leaving a flower at the dog's- actually, does it have a nametag?

I get closer and check. Bentlee.

I blink a few times, going what the hell? before I remember that... I think it was Brutus? Whatever their name was, in canon Bitch carves a dog's name, or maybe it was two names, into the Endbringer defense monument, and the audience sees she's not very literate, getting their name wrong in the small child using phonetics to spell unfamiliar words, and sorry English doesn't reliably do phonetics way. So this would be... well, pronunciation-wise, Bentley? I honestly don't remember if Bitch had a dog named Bentley. I remember Judas, Brutus, and Angelica, and that she had other dogs, but I don't remember their names.

Okay. So yeah, probably one of Bitch's dogs.

I sigh again, glance at the walls, and ultimately leave, not really wanting to bother Taylor now that I've probably rubbed salt in an emotional wound.

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Cauldron still hasn't contacted me. Aside the stupid smiley face, but I have no idea what that means.

So I went back to Taylor's apartment, collected a handful of chocolates on the way -candy in wrappers does generally keep for a while, so I'm not too worried about food poisoning- and frankly was expecting her to have finally vanished, so I was ruminating on the Dragon issue some, like maybe I should make an effort to deal with the Dragonslayers? They were kinda inconsistently written so I doubt they're an intentional Abaddon plot I'd be fucking up...

… but no, Taylor is still around, as evidenced by a bug text message on the wall when I arrive.

I'm not joining the ABB.

I blink a few times, then burst into goddamn laughter. She thinks I'm trying to recruit her? I mean, admittedly, that's what the Undersiders did, so I guess it's not completely unreasonable, and I guess it's not even exactly wrong, but holy fuck into the ABB? That's hilarious.

When my laughter is under control enough to talk again, I wheeze out, "Lady, I fucking quit them already."

Then I stop, abruptly realizing I've revealed I know her gender and I'm not sure whether it makes sense for me to know that at this point, panicking for a second, until I remember she took the tampons yesterday. Whew. That's a reasonable-looking assumption on my part from an external view, not me revealing my precognitive info.

It's too bad Taylor isn't in the room so I can't get any kind of read on her response. Her bugs shuffle about for a bit, and if that whole thing about offloading her emotions into her bugs is true I guess that could be an indication she's agitated, but it's not like canon ever delved into what a given emotion translated into, as far as bug behavior goes. Did she notice I freaked for a moment? Is she offended at me laughing? Is she skeptical I actually left the ABB?

No response comes before I get myself together and haul the toy wagon of crap up into the apartment, so I start talking about other stuff. "I managed to snag some chocolates this time. I haven't tried it myself yet, but I hear chocolate is supposed to help with period cramps?" I mean, I'm just guessing she has serious period cramps, but what I've heard in that regard is that serious misery is very much the default. Bakuda's body just kinda bleeding and me not noticing is... a thing my memories claim does happen, but much less often. And now I'm wondering if me not noticing is shard upload stuff, rather than Bakuda's body having a relatively pleasant period.

Taylor still doesn't respond verbally... textually... whatever... but more wasp-or-whatever+spider shenanigans steal the chocolates away, less awkwardly than with the tampons since they're individually wrapped.

I also notice the wheelbarrow and its contents are gone. So Taylor... brought it inside? Or maybe she dragged it elsewhere, but inside seems more likely. Easier, and if she decided she wanted the stuff inside would be better, whereas if she didn't want the stuff... wait, actually, she might've gotten rid of it if she was worried I had boobytraps or something in there. Hm. Damn. Being a supervillain is actually kinda irritating when I want to try peaceful overtures and crap.

Okay, so, like, Taylor's been thinking I was trying to recruit her for the ABB. That's... honestly, that's fucking bizarre, but even though my gut response is to say it sounds like Simurgh'd irrationality I'm honestly not sure it'd be out of character with canon Taylor. Fanon Taylor probably wouldn't say this particular type of ridiculous thing, but- hm. I've always historically thought of that as lazy, bad writing, where Taylor doesn't say things an audience would find ridiculously wrong because the writers are being lazy and shit, but if it's mostly all precog...

… I dunno. Maybe Taylor is just very consistently in tune with her shard, whatever it is, and it's feeding her more info than she really ought to have? As a reward, I guess? I do seem to recall that the handful of no-power Taylor fics I read trended toward Taylor actually getting things wrong, so I guess that's not a crazy theory. It'd potentially also be an answer for why she tends to be weirdly important?

I'm dubious on that theory, in part because canon Taylor was ostensibly really in tune with her shard and didn't do this 'constantly knowing things she shouldn't know' thing, but not enough to completely discount it right away.

Whatever, back up, Taylor thinks I wanted her for the ABB, even though we're in a Simurgh'd zone and gang politics is kind of a fucking ridiculous thing to focus on in that context. So... great. Me being nice and supportive and trying to help her with her period and shit is probably being interpreted as Sinister Villainous Buttering Up.

God, that aspect of early canon Taylor's mentality was so frustrating.

Oh, Taylor's bugs are spelling something out again. Thanks for the chocolate. Go away.

I brighten a bit. "Oh, so the chocolates are helping with the cramps, then?"

The message breaks up, and after a delay some of them form a simple yes. I'm not sure how to take the pause there. I usually find it ridiculous how much people emphasize the importance of face-to-face conversation, but I can kind of relate a little here, not knowing Taylor well enough to guess what the delay might mean where I'd maybe get to see fidgeting in person- actually, no, I wouldn't, would I? She'd just be offloading her emotions onto her bugs, she was, like, already doing that habitually at the start of canon, even if canon implied she got more consistent about it as time went on and kinda retroactively pretended like this was new behavior.

Hm. That actually makes me feel better and oh goddammit I just realized this could explain my own befuddlement at the focus on facial expressions et al. If I'm supposed to somehow Abaddon at Taylor, who is a cape who, even in fanfic, tends to heavily obscure her face when in costume and, in canon, has feelings shunted out of her face in general, then it's disadvantageous to be a normal human who thinks faces are the most important thing ever, because I'll horribly misread Taylor. For that matter, I'd just recently learned about prosody when this happened, and Taylor's swarm-speech probably lacks prosody or has really fucked-up prosody, so I'm better-prepared to take swarm-speech at face value instead of getting caught on 'tone' or lack thereof.

God, at this point I'm hoping it clearly turns out I'm an Abaddon missile just so it stops being unpleasant to discover the latest way it makes sense for my memories to be fake and my fake life carefully engineered to prep me for this job. Having it be a plausible-but-not-remotely-proven theory is downright painful, as there's that nagging doubt I'm a transplant or something and just engaging in confirmation-bias to produce tremendous self-doubt about stuff I'd never previously questioned and never thought I'd have cause to question.

Then a buzzing flying bug beans me on the head and I flail, waving at it while trying to lean away from it, and end up falling sloppily on my butt. "Don't do that," I hiss out. Fuck, I hate it when buzzing bugs fly at me.

Then I notice there's words being spelled out. Whoops, got too into my thoughts. What are you angry about?

Angry? I don't remember- oh, um. I was momentarily frustrated by not being able to get a read on Taylor, and my memories claim people inexplicably tend to read me as ragingly angry when I'm maybe a little miffed. Hm. My first thought is that Taylor sensing it is an indication I'm a lot more blatantly angry-seeming than I interpret myself as seeming, in body language or something, but it occurs to me canon never explicitly addressed antennae. Maybe she's sensing human anger... smells, I guess. And, if canon is anything to go by, not realizing she's reacting to such.

Or- no, I'm pretty sure- let's just ask. "Do you mean when you bumped me with a bug, or before, or-"

Before.

Oh, okay, I did guess that part correctly. Um, how do I explain this? "There was a delay in your response, and I realized I didn't know how to take it and got frustrated. I wasn't mad, not really, certainly not at you. If it helps any, people have a long history of thinking I'm really mad when I'm not particularly?"

There's another pause, and I'm inclined to take it as meaningful when her bugs spell out, What, like at Cornell?

Ugh. "Quick confirmation; you're being sarcastic, right?"

Duh.

I blink in surprise at that and kinda squint at the bugs as a proxy for squinting at Taylor. Taylor using 'duh' weirds me out. She didn't have a formal diction in canon or fanon, but she tended to stay away from... teenager-ese, I guess. Then I remember the actual context this is in, and kinda wave at the bugs. "Okay, like, first of all sarcasm isn't 'duh' if you've not got tone, not unless you're constructing your sentence really obviously, and sometimes not even then. Words on a page, or wall in this case, don't carry the thing people do with voices and expressions." I pause for a moment feeling weird about explaining this to someone who I know has familiarity with internet forums and all, but also waiting to see if she'll respond. The lack of a response stretches long enough I decide she's not going to answer, so I keep going. "Cornell-wise, I honestly can't tell you what happened there." I was intending to keep talking, but then I realize I have no idea how I want to talk around this and stall out.

There's a very long pause, and then Taylor's bugs spell out, Go away, Oni Lady.

I roll my eyes, then shrug, turn to leave, and then have a thought cross my mind and look over my shoulder at the bugs. "You doing okay on defenses? Like, the city is less of a madhouse than I was expecting, but the phasing assholes are dangerous and, y'know, Simurgh means you can't trust people." I pause, consider saying I'm an exception, then decide no because that's manipulative BS and not necessarily true anyway. I don't feel Simurgh'd, and kinda have reason to think I might be immune at this point, but I'm honestly not sure how I'd tell for sure. So instead I continue with, "Like, I doubt you'll take some of my spare munitions, but I'm not sure how you'd stop one of the phasing assholes."

There's a very long pause, so long I shrug and start to turn to leave, when suddenly Taylor's bugs flurry into words. Oh, okay? I wait, kinda wondering if she's agitated, 'cause the bugs seem jittery to me, taking a while to get into formation, but still not sure how to take any given bug behavior. Eventually, she manages; I already killed two.

I grin and enthuse. "Oh, wow, that's good! I think they're the..." The message breaks up, which isn't how she's been handling this so far. She normally only breaks up the message once I'm done talking. No new message forms, and I trail off. "... most dangerous things here?"

There is a very, very long pause, and then it crosses my mind that people often feel that killing people is bad even when it's in self-defense against actual attempts on their own life and whatnot, and that Taylor in particular was, in canon, starting things out thinking things like that she was going to hell for leaving people terrified but unharmed during a bank robbery. I mean, fanfic tends to make her alarmingly heartless from step one, and Taylor did inure herself to such stuff relatively quickly in canon, but, uh, I think the first step in that process was cutting out Lung's eyes during Bakuda's rampage. The one I didn't engage in.

I think Taylor might have been trying to reach out for empathy and emotional support because she felt horribly bad for killing people, so desperate for such that even though she was just bringing up me being the Cornell Bomber she reached out to me anyway, and I promptly went 'great job!' over the thing she was moping about and wanting atonement or something for.

Fuck.

I wait a long, long minute to see if Taylor is going to write out anything else. Nothing is forthcoming.

"I'll... come back tomorrow," I say, already backing out the door.

The bugs don't do anything before I'm out of sight.
 
Huh. Well, nice to see the SI can still get on people's good side by being herself. I would say I'm surprised they didn't drop canon knowledge or claim to be a precog, but well... Simurgh'ed. If I was SI'd I'd play it off as a precog or something. Hope Taylor's doing okay and whatever happened to her gets better. She might be needing the tampons for wounds instead rather than periods, and chocholate for food. Only time will tell. Friendshipping and normal shipping onward!
 
There's no way that was 10k words, that went by in a flash. More, please! This is really excellent. I do hope Bakuda wraps up this "Am I an Abbadon missile?" question soon, since while it's still enjoyable to read, I doubt it will be for long. V happy to see that we're starting to move forward in the plot, and examining all these nitty-gritty conversational details. Also yes, it's great that Bakuda is just being herself and it's working out, instead of presenting (too much of) a front. It's cool seeing this non-standard human being do things.
 
The endless "am I an Abaddon missile" angst is actually really convenient, here, because it stretches out the "will I manage to make friends with Taylor" plotline. This prevents that difficult task from feeling like it was easy, quick, or a "video game autocomplete" sort of thing.
Basically I think it's good for pacing.

However I am really hyped to see how the Taylor thing will go! Glad to see this updating regularly!
 
Heh.

One reason I don't read much Worm fanfic anymore is the mono-focus on Taylor, and altpower versions thereof.

So, of course, Bakuda King just goes around wandering the post-Endbringer Brockton Bay and just so happens to bump into the Taylor Hebert. Sees her through a window, no less.

And yet.

Something about this update that I find it hard to articulate put a giant grin on my face while I was reading it.

Maybe it has something to do with the protagonist grappling with their own limited social abilities? I'm a lot better at that kind of stuff than I used to be, but I still found that super relatable.


On another note, I'm digging the mystery behind what the hell happened, and why Taylor is hiding in an abandoned, battle-damaged apartment by herself with only the slowly rotting corpse of one of Rachel's dogs for company. It sure is convenient, not only that Bakuda King bumps into Taylor, but that she is in a position that will leave her remotely receptive to a complete stranger walking in and getting in on their good side by offering them stuff. More 7D hypercube chess work afoot in the background?


the second one is littered with abandoned goods I would've seen through the window and didn't
This particular sentence fragment jumped out as something that confused me?
 
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Okay, so, like, Taylor's been thinking I was trying to recruit her for the ABB. That's... honestly, that's fucking bizarre
I'm genuinely confused why you are confused by this. You're a cape, she's a cape; does anything else honestly need to be said? Even ignoring her scouting and anti-non-Brute abilities, any cape is worth it in a situation like this. And sure, Bakuda wouldn't know if she's Asian, but I feel like membership requirements get relaxed in the wake of an Simurgh attack.

(Disclaimer: I haven't done a reread. If you publically attacked Lung or something, I retract my question.)
 
I'm genuinely confused why you are confused by this. You're a cape, she's a cape; does anything else honestly need to be said? Even ignoring her scouting and anti-non-Brute abilities, any cape is worth it in a situation like this. And sure, Bakuda wouldn't know if she's Asian, but I feel like membership requirements get relaxed in the wake of an Simurgh attack.

(Disclaimer: I haven't done a reread. If you publically attacked Lung or something, I retract my question.)
Bakuda King is surprised because she's been taking it for granted that she's broken away from the ABB, and that the ABB is probably effectively disbanded at this point. It can sometimes be surprisingly easy to forget that other people do not know what you do, and miscommunications often come about as a result.

Also, while Bakuda King didn't publicly attack the ABB, she did firmly rebuff an offer from one of their foot soldiers to rejoin the fold. With a bomb threat. And Eidolon did give credit to her on live television. It's just that Taylor doesn't know about that because she has been hiding in that destroyed apartment with that dog corpse slowly rotting in the corner for...an indeterminate but probably non trivial length of time.
 
One of my favorite things in worm fanfiction is getting to see Taylor from the outside, especially when she's at cross purposes with the protagonist.

I think this story captures how frustrating she can be wonderfully.
 
Taylor killed two phase zombies, the Undersiders are no where to be found, guess we know who did Rachel in, guessing the dog was the other one or the two Taylor killed were Brian and Aisha.
 
I really like this chapter! Admittedly, I was getting a bit worried about the story direction: before the hiatus I felt like things were going too fast, while after the hiatus it was too focused on introspection. Now, though, it's a perfect, delicious blend! An interesting but reasonably paced main plot, insightful (if slightly paranoid) thinking of the type most authors never do, all wrapped in a blanket of generally good writing.

As a few assorted thoughts:
Cauldron keeps fucking ignoring me. Dragon hasn't beamed an Abaddon Code into my brain so we can link up and engage in a sinister alien plot of humanitarian aid. The Simurgh dust continues to not let me do exotic shit to it, aside the occasional false hope.
All this talk of killing Ziz! She probably was trying to help you all along... in her own way...

scrubbing bubble grenades
Hehe, the image of your Bakuda making a line of cleaning products is hilarious.
 
Ooooh. I think she has period cramps. Is... is that why she's not leaving? Is she laid up with period cramps? That'd be kind of weird given canon Taylor never had period cramps, but then again the writer never acknowledged any female biological factoids of any kind (Well, except Purity's pregnancy in passing in backstory, I suppose), and also she's gone through a whole lot of stress and shit of a brand-new kind.

Wildbow did mention that the trio had put used tampons in her locker, and even people who don't know much about Worm probably know that.

Also

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I'd been under enough stress the past few months that I'd missed my periods entirely. I might have panicked, if the timing of it had been different. I was safe. Ninety-nine point nine percent sure I was safe.
 
... but Richter doesn't realize this aspect of Dragon's emotions is an unsigned byte with no accounting for underflow and Dragon will, if she kills someone, feel so bad that the number underflows and now she actually is orgasmically ecstatic over killing someone, and Richter's code that was supposed to be a basic ethical rule that couldn't possibly have been fucked up (Right? Right?) has instead produced Serial Killer Dragon.

For reference, my example is based on reality. "Let's make Gandhi peaceful, because he was in real life!" "Sounds good." "... why is Ghandi the quickest to turn his nukes on everyone?" "We made him too peaceful."

My favorite example of this happening was the military supercomputer they assigned to run an evolutionary algorithm in order to discover the fastest way to land a super-sonic-jet on an aircraft carrier while damaging as little as possible. Quick enough, the computer had done it... really well. Impossibly well. Fractions-of-a-second and zero-damage, well.

Turns out that if the computer just flew the jet directly into the aircraft carrier at full speed it would cause so much damage that the value overflowed, rolling it back to Zero. Yes, it would completely obliterate the jet, the pilot, and a not insignificant portion of the carrier, but: Perfect Score.
 
Yes. It's not a core of my work, but a significant part of it, so I'm speaking from personal experience. It isn't that hard, but very time-consuming.

Bugs are not the main concern, there are methodologies to deal with them. Getting good technical requirements and translating them into design documents is a problem, though, because there is no well established formal methodology for it. Coding is a practical technical skill, design is less technical, but there are formal methodologies for it. Writing technical requirements, especially when working with concepts from humanities ? Practically an art form.

Games are not a good example here, because they are not correctness-critical applications and thus coders cut a lot of corners to be cost-efficient.

I used game examples because I'm deeply into games and they stick out in my memory better. I still regularly run across horror stories about programmers working on non-game code that behaves in bizarre, unexpected ways, for unclear reasons, up to and including stuff like code including a commented-out section that tells you to not remove the comment because the code stops functioning if you remove the commented-out section, even though the whole point of comments is that code ignores them.

And the bigger, more complex a coding project you're talking about, the easier it gets to hit unexpected implications. To forget that Y instruction carries Z implications, and elsewhere put in code that will do Bad Things precisely because Y instruction exists. To make a typo and not notice it, and so spend months tearing apart the code because you don't remember making the error and whatever tools you use to check for spelling errors registered the spelling error as a valid instruction not worth flagging.

I am given to understand that games are more prone to coding problems than other kinds of coding projects, but the way I've heard it explained is that A: a lot of games are produced by people who aren't actually all that inclined toward programming (Which is consistent with my own observations), and B: that games are ambitiously huge and complex compared to most coding projects. (Which I can readily believe, given that games are regularly expected to include functionality that gets sold as entire standalone programs) Like, I specifically recall a professional programmer saying that only an operating system was more ambitiously complex than a lot of not-even-that-ambitious-looking games, though since then I've heard of other things being comparably ambitiously complex. GIS is the one I remember off the top of my head.

Which I'm emphasizing because any kind of sci-fi AI is pretty much an operating system, but even more ambitiously complex.

So I'm a wee bit skeptical of your attempts to argue that someone coding AI could be confident of all the instructions having been entered as intended with no unintended implications et al.

Neural nets are not a good basis for strong AI. When we think, we do so using statements/definitions in a language, and statements are best represented by abstract syntax trees. Neural networks in ML on the other hand work in terms of numeric weights.

I don't think in language. A lot of people don't think in language. In fact, Wikipedia indicates that only 25% of people think exclusively in words. Which makes sense given how much of our brain architecture is inherited from ancestors who did not, in fact, utilize language at all. It'd be bizarre if humans actually thought exclusively in language.

So you're just talking out your ass, here, especially because even if humans universally did think in language that still wouldn't be any kind of indicator that strong AI will be better-served thinking in language. I wouldn't be surprised if it ultimately turns out having AI think in language is human-useful for purposes of easing communication between AI and humans, but this particular assumption you're making is multiple levels of bizarre.

Huh. Well, nice to see the SI can still get on people's good side by being herself. I would say I'm surprised they didn't drop canon knowledge or claim to be a precog, but well... Simurgh'ed. If I was SI'd I'd play it off as a precog or something.

Not sure if it'll crop up organically within the story or not, but I personally always cringe at stories where people have an information advantage from eg being an SI, and then try to pass it off as 'seeing the future'. It's a lie, it's a lie with a very short shelf life as they work to change events, and such characters often present this lie in a manner that begs for people to be asking for predictions as proof that they can't possibly deliver on because it never came up in canon or whatever. ("What's Mr. Gladly doing this afternoon?" fuck he showed up like twice in all of canon I don't know)

It's also often a lie that has inherent believability problems. In some cases I honestly suspect "I come from another dimension where your life was a story" would be more readily-believed.

Personally, I'd much sooner claim to be basically literally Tattletale; super-intuition means I can say 'it was a random flash of insight from my power!' anytime I know something I shouldn't know and that's basically impossible to definitively prove wrong as a power-set. Even if I get info wrong from circumstances changing, I can just say my power intuited incorrectly.

(I'm also sort of surprised at you interpreting this chapter's progression as 'getting on Taylor's good side'. Not saying it isn't what happened, just not the interpretation I'd have expected)

The endless "am I an Abaddon missile" angst is actually really convenient, here, because it stretches out the "will I manage to make friends with Taylor" plotline. This prevents that difficult task from feeling like it was easy, quick, or a "video game autocomplete" sort of thing.
Basically I think it's good for pacing.

I wouldn't really characterize it as angst? I don't tend to angst about things. I get frustrated or angry, where when I think of angst I tend to think of people being Very Sad about things they don't think thy can fix.

Good to hear you think it's helping the pacing regardless, though.

On a different note, I finished Hotswap and... there's certainly bits I appreciated about it, like that the SI is broadly trying to make things better but it turns into a disaster instead, but mostly I came away a bit disappointed. The gender-flipping aspect got touched a few times in a substantive way early on, but it faded fairly quickly and largely got relegated to stuff like Chris idly thinking 'it's interesting that Dude Purity still got custody, given moms are hugely advantaged in that regard', where said thought was never followed up on and indeed Dude Purity dropped out of the story entirely after that chapter. Chris' power never got very clearly defined to the audience, making it hard to get a handle on what the context of Chris' decisions is supposed to be, and indeed in general the story expects the audience to infer a lot of info that can't be properly inferred because it never really gets addressed. What we did get unambiguously about Chris' power made it clear it was your usual boring overpowered SI power that can do basically anything, which was a problem once the story transitioned away from interpersonal interaction into action-adventure-disaster rooted in power usage; it was difficult to be invested in the action when Chris was not only obviously overpowered nonsense but treated as even more overpowered than that.

Similarly, the way Panacea's power got interpreted was a fairly serious sticking point for me. Yes, Panacea can do brains, but canon makes it 100% clear she genuinely doesn't understand the mind as well as she does the body, that she doesn't have the ability to zap out specific memories or reshape personalities without, like, a lot of practice beforehand. Hotswap then treats Panacea's power as fairly effortless at reshaping personalty, altering memories in a targeted way, etc; even with Chris' actions having unexpected consequences because Chris' usage isn't magically perfect, it was still starting from an overly-generous foundation. Which wasn't a minor issue; the last, what, third of the story is defined heavily by usage of this power, and specifically using it to do things it absolutely would not enable Hotswap to do.

The story was pretty solid when it was undirected interpersonal interaction between coworkers, with Chris coping with gender dysphoria, etc. (Though even then, the early chapters were sufficiently bad I would've noped out before seeing the good bits if I'd stumbled on this at random) The rest of it was... questionable.

Really, you can just consider Dragon as just a human-mind state being emulated by Shard hardware which can run multiple instances and merge/join them at will, and get much saner outcomes.

I'd point out the shackles thing, but it's canon that the Entities are artificially imposing psychological blank spots and whatnot on capes, like the inability to think about trigger events, so that's not really a hole in your point.

It also neatly explains why Dragon behaves in such a human-like manner, which otherwise is a little weird coming from a tinker ostensibly making an extremely alien AI pretending to be human. Richter's shard just faking up a human mind in response to Richter wanting to make a person-like AI neatly explains a lot of elements of that.

So, of course, Bakuda King just goes around wandering the post-Endbringer Brockton Bay and just so happens to bump into the Taylor Hebert. Sees her through a window, no less.

I mean... there's only so much ground to cover since, if Taylor is present, she's trapped in the same walled-in city as Bakuda, and there's no particularly meaningful time limit beyond the far-off issue of Golden Morning kicking off. If Taylor is present, the question isn't whether Bakuda will find Taylor, it's when. I could've drawn out the journal sequence to six months or something, but from an audience experience standpoint there's not much difference between 'Bakuda finds Taylor after a few weeks o searching' and 'Bakuda finds Taylor after a full year of searching, which she glossed over the majority of that time'.

Or more accurately the latter is worse, since either Bakuda has a realistic amount of character development off-screen, making it not real for the audience, or she unrealistically stays basically unchanged and there's wonky knock-off effects. (Like how Taylor ostensibly spent a lot more time with the Wards than with the Undersiders, but is vastly closer emotionally to the Undersiders than the Wards; what, were the Wards monumental assholes in-universe?)

I did make a point of having it take a few weeks to work out, because yeah it's dumb when a character goes looking for a needle in a haystack and it's conveniently in the very first spot their eyes land on.

On another note, I'm digging the mystery behind what the hell happened, and why Taylor is hiding in an abandoned, battle-damaged apartment by herself with only the slowly rotting corpse of one of Rachel's dogs for company. It sure is convenient, not only that Bakuda King bumps into Taylor, but that she is in a position that will leave her remotely receptive to a complete stranger walking in and getting in on their good side by offering them stuff. More 7D hypercube chess work afoot in the background?

To be honest, I rolled dice for what happened to characters in the Simurgh's wake, Bakuda included. I deviated in a few cases, such as rolling dice for the Travelers only for Bakuda to intervene ahead of the Endbringer strike, but the point is that Taylor's fate was selected by die roll notably ahead of me getting to the Simurgh arrival scene. Similarly, Bentley is dead because I rolled dice for Bitch's dogs that got names and were present this early in canon (ie not the wolf pup) since it's always aggravated me how fanfic tends to treat the dogs as not being distinct characters in any capacity, but just as a sub-component of Bitch and her power. (Even from authors who explicitly say they like dogs! I don't like dogs, why am I the one that finds this conspicuously wrong?)

Not that this prevents me from interpreting things for the story as 'hyperdimensional precog chess plots', mind, but I didn't pick Taylor's fate for narrative convenience. Indeed, my response to Taylor's rolls was 'uh. Well, shit'.

This particular sentence fragment jumped out as something that confused me?

The stuff she's seeing would've been visible from the window she saw through; she didn't see them through the window, ergo this is not the room she saw through the window.

I'm genuinely confused why you are confused by this. You're a cape, she's a cape; does anything else honestly need to be said? Even ignoring her scouting and anti-non-Brute abilities, any cape is worth it in a situation like this. And sure, Bakuda wouldn't know if she's Asian, but I feel like membership requirements get relaxed in the wake of an Simurgh attack.

A post-Simurgh zone is basically a stereotypical post-apocalypse in terms of everybody scrabbling for survival, no one can be trusted, modern amenities exist but the locals can't count on being able to replace them if they break, etc. Even the airdropping of supplies and all is basically neatly answering one of the usual post-apocalypse 'wait wut' elements, where nobody is farming or hunting or gathering berries/fruits/etc but people can still keep themselves fed consistently for ages, just they have to fight others if they want more than their share or whatever.

In such a post-apocalypse, it just strikes me as ridiculous to place any importance on prior organizations based on ideological warfare regarding finding the current state of society undesirable, unless evidence clearly accumulates of the new status quo retaining the qualities that made the old one unacceptable. (eg if Empire Eghty-Eight was clearly present, dominant, and getting a frustratingly favorable reaction from white civilians, especially if those white civilians were a clear majority of the survivors....)

So; Bakuda finds 'you're obviously here to recruit me into your racist gang' ludicrous.

(If Taylor had not specifically said 'into the ABB', Bakuda would've still been frustrated, but not burst into laughter or ridiculed Taylor's apparent line of thought; recruiting a cape to help you in a general sense is obviously useful, if you're okay with the risk of them Simurgh bombing at you)

Wildbow did mention that the trio had put used tampons in her locker, and even people who don't know much about Worm probably know that.

This is true, but the thought process here is regarding the stuff that shapes the decision-making process on an ongoing basis. The locker scene would be equivalent, in this regard, to having a story where nobody ever goes to the bathroom, but at some point a bucket of piss gets emptied out on someone; it's indirectly acknowledging such bodily functions exist, but not having them do anything to how people behave. (And I'm not talking, like, PMS, when talking 'behavior'. I mean that, for example, how Taylor was coping with her periods re; acquiring adequately clean tampons/pads after Leviathan hit was not a topic that got addressed. To be fair, you can wave it off as 'Coil handled it', but... did Taylor work up the courage to tell Coil she needed feminine products? That seems a bit unlikely to me, personally, not to mention an interesting scene I'd have liked to actually see if it did happen)

I had forgotten about that late reference to Taylor's period stopping from stress, though, this is unambiguously incorrect on Bakuda's part. Of course, she's supposed to remember what I'd plausibly remember after a few months, not whatever I just got reminded of in reality, so I'm not going to change it.
 
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I don't think in language. A lot of people don't think in language. In fact, Wikipedia indicates that only 25% of people think exclusively in words. Which makes sense given how much of our brain architecture is inherited from ancestors who did not, in fact, utilize language at all. It'd be bizarre if humans actually thought exclusively in language.
In other words, I'm not weird that I don't think in language? Hmmm. That provides more context to Ludwig Wittgenstein.

But seriously, one of my biggest struggles is translating from *thought* to 'speach', and that's why I tried, when I was younger, to learn a little bit of several languages so if I couldn't remember one word I could just substitute a german or french or greek or latin one. I didn't bother learning german, greek, nor latin conjugation though, so I don't consider myself remotely fluent. I can only grammatically conjugate English and French, which is no surprise because they have practically the same damn grammar.

And I speak enough Chinese to have a conversation with a 2 year old.

In my dreams, many characters speak french though. Not all of them. Just about a quarter.
 
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I would say I am 50/50 on thinking in words. like 90% of the words that I think are "what was I just thinking" or "what is my next idea". And for some reason my dreams all turn into me narrating the dream right before I wake up. But all that actual useful thought that happens takes place using a more amorphous concept than words.
 
It's also often a lie that has inherent believability problems. In some cases I honestly suspect "I come from another dimension where your life was a story" would be more readily-believed.

Personally, I'd much sooner claim to be basically literally Tattletale; super-intuition means I can say 'it was a random flash of insight from my power!' anytime I know something I shouldn't know and that's basically impossible to definitively prove wrong as a power-set. Even if I get info wrong from circumstances changing, I can just say my power intuited incorrectly.

(I'm also sort of surprised at you interpreting this chapter's progression as 'getting on Taylor's good side'. Not saying it isn't what happened, just not the interpretation I'd have expected)

Yeah, I'd probably tell the truth, though it adds an extra bit of chaos as people have to come to the understanding that they're a character in a book. (They could also argue that the book was based on reality but I have no way to prove what's real at that point)
If I had to pass off being a precog, it would be a precog that saw major events for a single instant and then nothing. Of course then I'd get revealed to not have a corona... etc etc...

I saw this as getting on Taylor's good side in one of those 'annoyingly helpful characters that just rub off on you' ways. Obviously this isn't likely to go all the way to friendship, but hey, SI is helping her at the moment so that's got to be worth something, even a tense alliance.
 
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