[X] God-King
-[X] Boost Sepulchral Pearl to Defining
-[X] Boost Sepulchral Pearl to Defining
[Exalted, ?] Most High
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VanusDraco
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Um, if we are gonna shrike, lets fuck up the immaculates.
Between us and Lilly, we can more or less slaughter those we can reach. No point wasting our nukes on them.
Between us and Lilly, we can more or less slaughter those we can reach. No point wasting our nukes on them.
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Rihaku
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You would not be able to complete the Grand Heretical Prophecy in a month; if you'd planted the seed much earlier, perhaps it would be able to mature now, but all you'd be able to do is hasten its growth in the time you have. It wouldn't be nearly to the degree where Solar rule would be openly accepted, though.
Prophecies have an advantage in scale (they can potentially affect all of Creation if a Project is big enough, such as the Realm's or the Guild's projects), but their impact is limited - mostly a circumstance bonus or malus, though one represented in-game as great success or catastrophic roadblock to the Project in question. Engineering something like the Grand Heretical requires multiple Major Predictions to even attempt.
Prophecies have an advantage in scale (they can potentially affect all of Creation if a Project is big enough, such as the Realm's or the Guild's projects), but their impact is limited - mostly a circumstance bonus or malus, though one represented in-game as great success or catastrophic roadblock to the Project in question. Engineering something like the Grand Heretical requires multiple Major Predictions to even attempt.
It would probably help with deciding if we want to go for Prophecies if we knew some possible Prophecies. We already know a lot about what Sorcery can give us, it's a lot less clear for Prophecies I think. Because I had assumed the Prophecies that can "shape the very face of Creation" could do the Heresies.
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I have been meaning tosay, I really like the girl and we really neglected her, we should interact with her more
i am also really sad with what we did to her with the "proof" instead of easing her into it with minimal mental disturbance
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I haven't even considered it until now... but if we are perpetuating immaculate heresy and starting the civil war it might be zao who ends up the next emperor rather than us... which would make moon the princess... and now we gotta marry her because politics
And once again I am regretting not working on Grand Heretical Prophecy sooner. Still I would like to know what Prophecies whose effects we will be able to see sooner if we go with Philsopher King as I might be swayed to God king at this rate.
To be fair that risked her potentially have a physcogical breakdown whenever she was reminded of who she once was and considering the Bronze Faction knew of this and knew that she had betrayed them. That risked her being made vulnerable at an in opportune time.
To be fair that risked her potentially have a physcogical breakdown whenever she was reminded of who she once was and considering the Bronze Faction knew of this and knew that she had betrayed them. That risked her being made vulnerable at an in opportune time.
Rihaku
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It's just not realistic to change the commonly-held beliefs of every Immaculate-devout peasant in the entire world in one month; even if you had a perfect transmission rate (which the Charm far from guarantees), the simple logistics of it would take several months. That's why the Grand Heretical was offered much earlier if you guys wanted to start down that route, and you would have had to perform multiple Prophecies over the last few months. There are some things that can't be made up for without time.
Anyway, some good examples of Prophecies you could do:
*Decrease the effectiveness of any attack on substantial Realm assets (of city-size or greater) by army-sized forces across all of Creation
*Increase the effectiveness of all Realm Legions in defending against attacks from the Threshold
*Significantly improve the economic situation of the Realm
*Significantly impair the economic situation of the Guild
*Trigger the Realm Civil War with yourself in an advantageous position (more Predictions = more advantage)
*Significantly forestall the Realm Civil War
*Tie up Realm assets in red tape and paperwork, reducing the chance of intense scrutiny into all Satrapries
*Incentivize Lunar empires to attack enemies of Creation rather than the Realm for several months
*Greatly improve or demolish the fortunes of a Great House of the Realm (larger, more powerful house = less effect)
*Generate circumstances favorable to your ascension as Head of House Sesus (difficult, considering how far back in the succession you are...)
*Cause Dynastic youth to become more dutiful and productive across Creation, decreasing their time spent on leisure and increasing their adherence to their jobs
*Cause Dynastic youth to adopt a more mercenary bent, increasing the available supply of Dragon-Blooded mercenaries
Thanks for the elaboration. It is a pity we can't go with Grand Heretical Prophecy, but we clearly get Zao to the throne with these. I like it!
Maybe we can atleast get the foot in the door by making it acceptable to ally with Anathema?
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That the effort would take some time and effort is rather obvious. Are you saying we would only have one month, and should not expect to be able to follow up on this if we started now?
Rihaku
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Remember that, for the Prophecies, effects are Realm-wide; a 20% improvement in chances may not seem like much, but if you apply it to every single battle, then suddenly the Realm is winning previously even engagements at 2:1, they're coming out 50:50 even when they're behind, they're completely closing out battles where they're ahead... that's huge. The sheer number of men, material, talents and positional advantages saved, compounded up, can change the history of Creation forever. You can turn inevitable demise in 20 years to 25, to 30, 35 - that is, getting to the business of actually saving Creation. Sure, it's not as flashy as leading a titanic army by yourself, the point of the spear, but even a titanic army can only cover, what, one Direction?
As Ryuuken says, competent administration can save far more lives than blatant heroism. Far, far more. A hero can save a city, a people, a nation. But the responsibility of the Strategos is Creation itself.
As Ryuuken says, competent administration can save far more lives than blatant heroism. Far, far more. A hero can save a city, a people, a nation. But the responsibility of the Strategos is Creation itself.
Rihaku
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I'm saying the update period will only cover one month, so you can't vote for "do the Grand Heresy." You can, at most, vote for "forment the beginnings of what may eventually become the Grand Heresy." This clarification is necessary because the impression was given to me that they thought they could do so with one update.
Ah, thats much better. I was concerned you were saying there was no point to starting now, because we could not finish before you stop offering prophesy actions as a choice.
Rihaku
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That might still be true, but I wouldn't tell you guys. After all, no one knows the future!
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meianmaru
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We should also remember that if we manage to push past the initial negative impact of focusing on time-dilation Working, prophecy-spam becomes also faster.
Rihaku
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Well, the outside world is still moving at its normal pace, so while you'd be able to generate Prophecies faster, their effects would still take the same time to propagate. But honestly, making a 3CD-level entity is quite competitive with Time Dilation, I'd say. Possibly even better.
I would expect that only to help on prophesies that effect Luseng alone. Its not as if events in the rest of Creation would happen faster.
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But we can probably make more prophecies about events in the realm, since each prophecy requires a certain amount of time invested by us to make