[Exalted, ?] Most High
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[X] God-King
-[X] Boost Sepulchral Pearl to Defining
It'll take months at this point, multiple turns and prophecies to make Anathema more acceptable and given how things go we might not be able to or want to focus on doing prophecies considering Rihaku has been sort of implying we might not have that much free time in the future.
Might as well get that time Dilation so we can do more prophecies in the same amount of time.
Also we should at the very least be able to stunt telling Moon what she should do to reorganize the administration and make sure that the people of Luseng understand why we did what we did.
Plus I really want to spend more time with professor Ivory. Think of those astrological buffs people!
-[X] Boost Sepulchral Pearl to Defining
It'll take months at this point, multiple turns and prophecies to make Anathema more acceptable and given how things go we might not be able to or want to focus on doing prophecies considering Rihaku has been sort of implying we might not have that much free time in the future.
Might as well get that time Dilation so we can do more prophecies in the same amount of time.
Also we should at the very least be able to stunt telling Moon what she should do to reorganize the administration and make sure that the people of Luseng understand why we did what we did.
Plus I really want to spend more time with professor Ivory. Think of those astrological buffs people!
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Making our own means they're fully loyal to us and specialize to do what we need and we could just boost Moon herself to the level of a 3CD
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
Vote tally:
##### 3.21
[X] Philosopher-King
No. of votes: 21
Emerald Oracle, Orm Embar, Vitaris, Alectai, Cavalier, Katreus, mrttao, Eliar, Serous, Jorlem, arrepio, VanusDraco, Algalon, VentusAerius, Elero, LordOfMurder, useofstrike32, Random Asian Person, jamie96969, BSRK Aditya, moon-llama
-[x]Bring Lily into the fold, allow her free access to the city, and introduce her to our friends
No. of votes: 1
VanusDraco
[X] God-King
No. of votes: 23
Dark Lord Bob, CrawlingChaos74, Savonarola, Usernames, Thomasfoolery, wingstrike96, Anasurimbor, Daniel14541, meianmaru, cyberswordsmen, vel10, EnderofWorlds, notgreat, aja318, 1986ctcel, Vanguard_D, Khaos, Ridiculously Average Guy, TheOtherSandman, gigantisrex, sithmor, Diller, Skaro
-[X] Boost Sepulchral Pearl to Defining
No. of votes: 18
Thomasfoolery, Anasurimbor, Daniel14541, meianmaru, cyberswordsmen, vel10, EnderofWorlds, notgreat, aja318, 1986ctcel, Vanguard_D, Khaos, Ridiculously Average Guy, TheOtherSandman, gigantisrex, sithmor, Diller, skaro
-[X] Awaken Fairest Tie
No. of votes: 3
CrawlingChaos74, Usernames, wingstrike96
-[X] Accept A Tie
No. of votes: 1
Dark Lord Bob
-[X] Accept Hatred of the Primordials
No. of votes: 1
Savonarola
[X] Deal With It
No. of votes: 2
dragon, Gerrou
EDIT: Added Diller's vote that the vote counter wouldn't count it (alongside with skaro's that came after this vote count) by hand.
EDIT2: Forgot to update the pages to count. Typical.
##### 3.21
[X] Philosopher-King
No. of votes: 21
Emerald Oracle, Orm Embar, Vitaris, Alectai, Cavalier, Katreus, mrttao, Eliar, Serous, Jorlem, arrepio, VanusDraco, Algalon, VentusAerius, Elero, LordOfMurder, useofstrike32, Random Asian Person, jamie96969, BSRK Aditya, moon-llama
-[x]Bring Lily into the fold, allow her free access to the city, and introduce her to our friends
No. of votes: 1
VanusDraco
[X] God-King
No. of votes: 23
Dark Lord Bob, CrawlingChaos74, Savonarola, Usernames, Thomasfoolery, wingstrike96, Anasurimbor, Daniel14541, meianmaru, cyberswordsmen, vel10, EnderofWorlds, notgreat, aja318, 1986ctcel, Vanguard_D, Khaos, Ridiculously Average Guy, TheOtherSandman, gigantisrex, sithmor, Diller, Skaro
-[X] Boost Sepulchral Pearl to Defining
No. of votes: 18
Thomasfoolery, Anasurimbor, Daniel14541, meianmaru, cyberswordsmen, vel10, EnderofWorlds, notgreat, aja318, 1986ctcel, Vanguard_D, Khaos, Ridiculously Average Guy, TheOtherSandman, gigantisrex, sithmor, Diller, skaro
-[X] Awaken Fairest Tie
No. of votes: 3
CrawlingChaos74, Usernames, wingstrike96
-[X] Accept A Tie
No. of votes: 1
Dark Lord Bob
-[X] Accept Hatred of the Primordials
No. of votes: 1
Savonarola
[X] Deal With It
No. of votes: 2
dragon, Gerrou
EDIT: Added Diller's vote that the vote counter wouldn't count it (alongside with skaro's that came after this vote count) by hand.
EDIT2: Forgot to update the pages to count. Typical.
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My name isn't on there under God-King and boosting Pearl's intimacy.
Summoned and bound demons have a defining tie of loyalty that can't be eroded by any means. You're right on the specialisation, but there's a lot of different second circle demons, so we should be able to get something relatively close to what we want. And summoning is done in a day while a working would need at least a week.
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Well a created 2CD/3CD shouldn't be able to be banished "back" to Malfeas right?
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
The vote counter didn't seem to find it even after I tried again after dumping the cache. Added yours (and skaro's) vote(s) by hand. It could be that also others counting won't get your vote automatically, so be vigilant.
Sure. Created servants do have advantages, but so do summoned ones. There's a reason summon demon is often called the most powerful spell.
[X] Philosopher-King
Rihaku
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Probably a couple hours at least.
You can only summon 1 2CD a month and 1 3CD a year (and only during calibration), so practically speaking if you want to spam 3CDs you have to do it with Workings. Also, Working-created entities don't have to actually be demons - recall the erymanthoi example in the 3E book despite their Tie of loyalty.
[X] God-King
-[X] Boost Sepulchral Pearl to Defining
-[X] Boost Sepulchral Pearl to Defining
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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So @Rihaku, a downside was mentioned to Initiating as an Odyssial Sorcerer at the Solar Circle level, since that seems to be the option getting the votes, what exactly was that Downside? Something about Control Spell restrictions or something? What effects does that have on Ulyssian's Sorcery and if they are negative could they be negated by taking them at another time?
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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May we know what that restriction entails? Or is the lack of knowing intentional and part of the voting process?
Eh, I'm torn between the prospect of more Moon now or a stronger Moon later. Why do you inflict these decisions on me, Rihaku?
Anyway, I think we should give serious thought to awakening Hatred of the Titans if we go Sorcery. It's highly appropriate from a thematic standpoint, given what we're soon to be facing, whereas boosting Pearl sort of comes out of left field, since she's nowhere near us. I like Pearl too, but I think no-selling Anys' inevitable 'lie down and die for the good of everyone everywhere' speech is a more immediately relevant benefit. It makes us a more nuanced character, and honestly I rather liked Odyssial's take on vengeance. Carving your name in terror across the faces of your slain enemies (who also happen to be the creators of the world) is awesome in the truest sense of the word. Plus, I doubt it would carry over to Nilul; Ulyssian knows Nilul is in opposition to hell and is pragmatic enough not to hold her powers against her. It might even make him better able to defend her, depending on what memories are awakened alongside it. If we could get a ruling on that, it would be helpful.
Anyway, I think we should give serious thought to awakening Hatred of the Titans if we go Sorcery. It's highly appropriate from a thematic standpoint, given what we're soon to be facing, whereas boosting Pearl sort of comes out of left field, since she's nowhere near us. I like Pearl too, but I think no-selling Anys' inevitable 'lie down and die for the good of everyone everywhere' speech is a more immediately relevant benefit. It makes us a more nuanced character, and honestly I rather liked Odyssial's take on vengeance. Carving your name in terror across the faces of your slain enemies (who also happen to be the creators of the world) is awesome in the truest sense of the word. Plus, I doubt it would carry over to Nilul; Ulyssian knows Nilul is in opposition to hell and is pragmatic enough not to hold her powers against her. It might even make him better able to defend her, depending on what memories are awakened alongside it. If we could get a ruling on that, it would be helpful.
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One thing is that creations can be designed to perfectly and fairly administrate the city in the manner we desire without the kind of inherent biases that demons inevitably have. We could also possibly pass one off as a reactivated relic from the past. With a bit of effort this might even be fairly convincing.
The big issue is that summoned demons are generally obviously demonic. This wouldn't be a problem, except that Dragon-Blooded sorcerers cannot bind second circle demons. Though I suppose they can beckon them and then
Regardless, we will want demon of the second circle even if we never use it openly. Expendable minions of that potency are just too useful.