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Also. Sorcery will help us with everything
"We should intentionally sabotage ourself so that we must resort to sorcery to suvive" is a bad plan
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"We should intentionally sabotage ourself so that we must resort to sorcery to suvive" is a bad plan
That's a massive investment of time and energy that could be better spent on PoSC, which only takes a day per use.
Rihaku
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Or God-King's Shrike! Even if it's not as incontestable as the RAW, it's still an extremely potent concentration of sheer catastrophe dumped on an enemy nation's head from across the world!
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Holy cow that opportunity cost
That said the metro faction has mostly argued that the plan is not to raise a mortal fighting force or any fighting force
But to spam prophecy and politically battle anys to usurp control of realm
So since it looks to be winning we better spend oyr xp on some social fu
Rihaku
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I mean, you could just neglect your mortals (by not empowering them) and rely on your personal power and that of your circle, sure. With Moon, Ivory, Zao, Nilul, and the DBs assigned to Luseng, you could do fairly well. It's just not overwhelming numbers like you would see with Polis or Empire (well, a single circle of Solars is quite overwhelming).
Would performing a working on an academy or a district that makes initiating into sorcery much easier (training time +xp reduction) for people studying inside a viable working?
Perform something like that a couple times for both the initiation and specific spells and we could have a pretty steady supply of sorcerers coming.
Having to learn sorcery, then further spend xp, as well much extraordinarily valuable time, only to end up with a force still markedly inferior to what we naturally get with the other two options? Doesn't seem like a good trade to me.
Emerald Oracle
Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet the Force
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A single circle of solars supported in their actions on a grand scale by Prophet of the Seventeen Cycles? Terrifying! Though I'm not sure whether Metropolis or Polis is better for getting the band back together swiftest. Metropolis means that Luseng is the place to be, so getting them there through official channels will probably be the easiest. Polis means that Luseng will be the safest from direct physical threat, but is still pretty open to DB infiltrators from Anys Syn.
If only this was 2e, then I'd definitely pick shining metropolis after all we're almost e5 and we could then grab Terrestrial Edification Program. Bam entire city full of enlightened mortals.
It's a shame enlightened mortals no longer exist though. It means no more wizened martial arts masters in old temples, no more prodigious mortal sorcerers trying to carve out their name, no more wild fae worshiping shamans. Mankind can no longer reach enlightenment and the world is poorer for it.
Hmm do godbloods still exist and do they still have essence pools? Maybe some bizzare mass sorcery to add those godly traits to mortals could do something similar.
Edit: Convinced to vote for
[X] The Polis of Legend
It's a shame enlightened mortals no longer exist though. It means no more wizened martial arts masters in old temples, no more prodigious mortal sorcerers trying to carve out their name, no more wild fae worshiping shamans. Mankind can no longer reach enlightenment and the world is poorer for it.
Hmm do godbloods still exist and do they still have essence pools? Maybe some bizzare mass sorcery to add those godly traits to mortals could do something similar.
Edit: Convinced to vote for
[X] The Polis of Legend
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SirLagginton
Shadow Cabal Caerbannog Bun-Bun
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I have to agree with Orm and go with the Metropolis as well, Empire has a little too much exposure for my taste.
Plus the image of us showing Saery or Moon around our shiny new city makes me chuckle.
Oh Orm, have you forgotten that incident with Mardukth already?
Yeah, we're basically giving Syn rope to hang us with if we start semi-openly recruiting Celestials. The look on her face when she realized just her plan backfired so badly that it created the nucleus of a new Solar Deliberative would really be something, though.
No... No, I remember all too well. Some horrors are beyond the ability of time to erase.
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Yeah. Be nice if there was an option that gave us supreme military and economic power without having to take the added risk recruiting other Anathema and spending time/XP on Workings.
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- The end of all things
Even if there were, I bet almost no one would vote for it. Who wants legions of well-armed Dragon-Blooded? Who wants to explore forgotten ruins and mysterious subterranean realms? Who wants to see us use Nilul and others to slowly corrupt Dynasts into our sphere?
Rihaku
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Hm... with time and effort, Prophecies spent, and a Working or three, you could definitely get up there to dozens or even hundreds of Sorcerers, yeah. Especially if you get Legendary Scholar Curriculum and Selfsame Master Instructor, which lets you manually transmit the Sorcery Charm AND spells to 30 characters at Essence 5. You could make Ysyr look like a provincial backwater at that level of Sorcerous density. Nio would be shocked and proud! Remember, each Sorcerer in 3E is capable of performing up to Ambition 2 Solar Circle Workings, though it does take huge amounts of time and XP for Terrestrial Circle Sorcerers.
Very expensive XP- and time-wise, though.
It wouldn't necessarily be inferior, given the number of mortals you can harness. A half-dozen Celestials, half a hundred Terrestrials, or half a million Sorcerously augmented mortals?
I wouldn't characterize it quite like that, but yes, it's a shame the Polis fell so massively behind. I suppose there are enough yet to vote that it could make a resurgence, but it looks unlikely.
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Me? We've been focused on our scholarship a great deal and it seems a shame to settle for a corner of Luseng when we could have the entire region and a legion of Terrestrials to boot.
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- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
Then vote for the option that gets us the entire region AND loads of unclaimed territory to add to our Satrapy for the Realm along with a circle or more of Solars/Lunars.
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- The savanna.
And increased Realm scrutiny and neglects the prosperity of the common people. It also gets us a bunch of new Celestial enemies, too.
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- Fabulously Rainbow Ireland
Who cares about scrutiny when we have the ability to stomp people into the ground as well as loyal legions and as for Celestial enemies, Eh we can take them.
meianmaru
The Devourer of Fiction
No enlightened mortals yes, but there are still mortal Sorcerers and god-blooded. And on using "mass Sorcery" on mortals: I was actually thinking about doing a Solar Circle Ambition 3 Working (or likely several of them) on the level of the Salinan Working to make possible for mortals to learn how to tap into their essence like in 2E. Maybe with even more ease if feasible. Then create a custom Charm and/or Working for uplifting those mortals faster.