The mental image this conjures up is hilarious. Ulyssian takes some enthusiastic walks, apparently.
[Exalted, ?] Most High
- Thread starter Rihaku
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[X] Head Off the Fae
With a name like this, I fully expect we'll be coming back with the General's head literally. We might not be very good at social normally, but we're actually decent at the whole "terrified respect/awe" thing. The mortals may not get how competent doing this makes us, but the DBs present should and they can be the ones doing moral building. It may not be quite as good for moral as Siege, but it should work for the Exalts.
With a name like this, I fully expect we'll be coming back with the General's head literally. We might not be very good at social normally, but we're actually decent at the whole "terrified respect/awe" thing. The mortals may not get how competent doing this makes us, but the DBs present should and they can be the ones doing moral building. It may not be quite as good for moral as Siege, but it should work for the Exalts.
Yeah. If SB needs to let 1000 people die to reach their goals, they'll shrug. But they will never pull the "You are no longer useful, thus I don't care about you anymore" thing.
[x] Head Off the Fae
Usernames
Merc gonna merc ya
But would SV allow Moon to die for their goals?
How could Moon dying help our ultimate goal of "Have Moon as waifu."?
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[X] Head Off the Fae
No. of votes: 12
Alectai, Emerald Oracle, CharlBaal, vali, Deadly Snark, inventive alias, Valor, Mannan, Usernames, Guile, TMIoverload, BSRK Aditya
[X] Siege Warfare
No. of votes: 16
Cavalier, Van Ropen, Jorlem, gigantisrex, Eliar, Orm Embar, Reckless_Sun, Gaudy Guise, Savonarola, Diller, afterthought53, Robotninja, sithmor, meianmaru, SirLagginton, LordOfMurder
[X] Contemplation
No. of votes: 1
Anasurimbor
[X] Use the Fae
No. of votes: 1
Ridiculously Average Guy
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[X] Head Off the Fae
No. of votes: 12
Alectai, Emerald Oracle, CharlBaal, vali, Deadly Snark, inventive alias, Valor, Mannan, Usernames, Guile, TMIoverload, BSRK Aditya
[X] Siege Warfare
No. of votes: 16
Cavalier, Van Ropen, Jorlem, gigantisrex, Eliar, Orm Embar, Reckless_Sun, Gaudy Guise, Savonarola, Diller, afterthought53, Robotninja, sithmor, meianmaru, SirLagginton, LordOfMurder
[X] Contemplation
No. of votes: 1
Anasurimbor
[X] Use the Fae
No. of votes: 1
Ridiculously Average Guy
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Windlass
A Windy Lass
- Location
- Wherever the wind is blowing
Silly usernames, Moon is our goal.
[X] Siege Warfare
Safer, lets us puts our roots down, and plants the seeds of heroism.
[X] Head Off the Fae
The big problem here is just how lopsided the numbers are. Regardless of who we crush, we'd have gotten the attention of the other two, who may yet temporarily team up against the balance breaker, especially if Ambition is recognized.
So, what do we do?
Defense works to improve morale, but morale does not do enough when any one of the opposing forces can already mutually annihilate on numbers alone.
We need more mooks fighting the enemy but they don't have to be our mooks. Hit the Fae hard, make them remember the End of Stories, the futility of fighting us. Don't destroy them, but drive their remnants against one of the others. This removes two sides from the field temporarily in one move, allowing us to focus on the last foe next while one is busy fighting the raksha remnants(preferably the dead).
This preserves the Satrapy's assets best for us to exploit. Of course, there is risk, but its not about taking risks to save the lives of civilians.
Its about taking a risk that can seize you the decisive advantage. The Siege protects our assets, but doesn't change the overall game plan, as we'd need to destroy a lot more of the Rakshas to convince them that charging at the Deathlord much more awesome than The End, which weakens their utility as a diversion, is theres enough left to use at all.
The big problem here is just how lopsided the numbers are. Regardless of who we crush, we'd have gotten the attention of the other two, who may yet temporarily team up against the balance breaker, especially if Ambition is recognized.
So, what do we do?
Defense works to improve morale, but morale does not do enough when any one of the opposing forces can already mutually annihilate on numbers alone.
We need more mooks fighting the enemy but they don't have to be our mooks. Hit the Fae hard, make them remember the End of Stories, the futility of fighting us. Don't destroy them, but drive their remnants against one of the others. This removes two sides from the field temporarily in one move, allowing us to focus on the last foe next while one is busy fighting the raksha remnants(preferably the dead).
This preserves the Satrapy's assets best for us to exploit. Of course, there is risk, but its not about taking risks to save the lives of civilians.
Its about taking a risk that can seize you the decisive advantage. The Siege protects our assets, but doesn't change the overall game plan, as we'd need to destroy a lot more of the Rakshas to convince them that charging at the Deathlord much more awesome than The End, which weakens their utility as a diversion, is theres enough left to use at all.
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Algalon
Herald of the Titans
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- Celestial Planetarium
[X] Head Off the Fae
We can't win a war of attrition. The fae need to die now. Once the Deathlords show up, Ody will be busy fighting their elites, if our legion is too tired or weakened to hold the line against their mooks, then all is lost
Also, it's the most badass option
We can't win a war of attrition. The fae need to die now. Once the Deathlords show up, Ody will be busy fighting their elites, if our legion is too tired or weakened to hold the line against their mooks, then all is lost
Also, it's the most badass option
[X] Head Off the Fae
[X] Siege Warfare
@Rihaku
Is the Fae General some honor obsessed guy? Or any of his Cataphractoi?
If yes, we could taunt them by questioning their Valour, and challenging them each in turn to single battle.
Basically turn the story from 'Mass Warfare' to 'Champions Duke it out'.
If we can then use this to force the Fae to obey us, we can send them against the other two factions with a good story rationale. Like them having a change of heart due to Ulyssians valour and rightiousness and now fighting the horrid Abyssals.
Even if they all die in the ensuing clash, the Abyssals can't turn the Fae into Zombies (I think).
Is the Fae General some honor obsessed guy? Or any of his Cataphractoi?
If yes, we could taunt them by questioning their Valour, and challenging them each in turn to single battle.
Basically turn the story from 'Mass Warfare' to 'Champions Duke it out'.
If we can then use this to force the Fae to obey us, we can send them against the other two factions with a good story rationale. Like them having a change of heart due to Ulyssians valour and rightiousness and now fighting the horrid Abyssals.
Even if they all die in the ensuing clash, the Abyssals can't turn the Fae into Zombies (I think).
CrossyCross
A+ RIDING
[X] Head Off the Fae
The many are useless. Morale? Who the fuck cares when even if they fight spitting in the enemy's eye to their last breath, their efforts won't work against even one faction?
and there's three.
No. No. Better to murder one faction and lighten the load. We come back with the general's head, and we score a reputation.
The many are useless. Morale? Who the fuck cares when even if they fight spitting in the enemy's eye to their last breath, their efforts won't work against even one faction?
and there's three.
No. No. Better to murder one faction and lighten the load. We come back with the general's head, and we score a reputation.
Rihaku
The Internet
They're not so weak as to be irrelevant - the Legion is actually quite strong, but not as strong as you. That doesn't mean they're like 10% as powerful as you or something - more like ~30-60%. Also, they have the capability to hold ground, maintain the peace, etc - stuff that you can't do because you're just one person that has more important issues to take care of!
You don't know enough about the general to say. You could try calling them out, but it would be a social check. Persuading them to make it a duel with the stakes being control of the horde would likely be very difficult, but who knows. The main issue is that it almost certainly wouldn't control the behemoths, and secondly, you would completely yield the element of surprise.
If you're fighting a purely defensive battle, and the mooks somehow decide to only attack you instead of the city, you could hold them off for... possibly indefinitely. The main issue would be if you run out of Willpower, but Hymn of the Morning solves that nicely.
Rihaku
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Crowned by Metis is really obvious, can't be concealed by any magics, and is clearly not a DB effect. You'd have some explaining to do, and your Manipulation isn't that great.
He doesn't proc Infallible Watchman's Eye, so either he is what he seems, more or less, or he's that good.
Anys did have that number two threat...
Finally, someone sees the wisdom of Contemplation! Prophet of Seventeen Cycles takes nearly a full day to use, and how many full days are you really going to have free?
Many of these are the last ships for the indefinite future, though, as the fate of Luseng hangs in the balance. You'll need a major victory to secure their return - that, or some sort of... world-shaping prophecy...
Hm, that's a fair point!
I think you guys may be significantly more optimistic about the mindset of the Fae than is realistic. Even 2E Fae don't act like you guys expect these Fae to!
Does that account for the other factions standing by indefinitely
Rihaku
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By indefinitely, I mean like a few hours, since that's how long it'll take you to manually kill them all if you're low on motes (assuming they don't mass rout after you kill like, 5000 of them while only suffering a bruise). Luseng is about 70% the size of California, so the other factions aren't close enough to matter unless they use Necromancy or Sorcery to blitz their way here.
[X] Head Off the Fae
We still have two other factions to defeat. We will get plenty of chances to gain the loyalty of our legion.
Also let's not go for H10, let's not manipulate moral at the cost of thousands of lives. We have the power too save them. Let's use it.
It might quite possibly be sub-optimal but I think it's the more interesting route to take anyway. Put's a greater contrast between what Odyssial would want and Ulyssian wants.
We still have two other factions to defeat. We will get plenty of chances to gain the loyalty of our legion.
Also let's not go for H10, let's not manipulate moral at the cost of thousands of lives. We have the power too save them. Let's use it.
It might quite possibly be sub-optimal but I think it's the more interesting route to take anyway. Put's a greater contrast between what Odyssial would want and Ulyssian wants.
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Rihaku
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Speaking of gods, though the City Father is presumed dead, that doesn't mean there are no spirits in the city! Could be fruitful ground for a write-in. The Legion would certainly be useful with some blessings, or they could improve city morale directly with blessings, freeing you somewhat from the burden of showmanship.
Rihaku
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Odyssial probably would just run off and kill them anyway, simply because he wouldn't care what people thought! Plus, mystersious controversies create more intrigued discussion than widely-known facts, even spectacular ones. It may not be the kind of attention you're looking for, but it's something.
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Bah, more reason to go for Head Off the Fae.