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Frankly, I believe people are underestimating the synergy between Protector of the West and Conquering King. Though I wouldn't be upset if the double Social Link option won.

That said, I can probably be convinced to get Pearlescence buff instead of Lea buff. But I'm pretty adamant on maxing out our "Make a model Realm where everything Works, where the people are happy and satisfied without any "But..." Moments".

Odyssial would still be a raging killbeast when it came to anything threatening his world, but his actual realm gets to know unrivalled peace and prosperity. And the West is where the Realm has the weakest hold in the Age of Sorrows, because it's too poor and too difficult to project power that way for them to have the same presence they have everywhere else--it means we're much more likely to find loyalists.
 
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If you guys do hit Greatness 10, that also grants you a choice of perks among which is an additional pick. I know you don't care compared to the importance of getting a new Title, but I thought I'd throw that out there.

There will be options to potentially decrease your Heartlessness as well in future, less war-like Epochs, but these will come at heavy cost.
 
CharlBaal said:
Sepulchral Pearlescence is she Sad Ivory's predecessor?
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Their names do follow the pattern of <Melancholy Adjective> [Noun related to the color White], don't they?

[X] Protector of the West -
[X] The Sword of Endings -
[X] The Rose Blossoms -

Going for the lord strategos would be very tempting to go to Heartless 10 for +60% more xp to greatness 10 and give 3 additional choices beyond the one we get for every epoch.

I suppose if we go by the 2nd ed first age time line, there is still the Aftershock war, and the time of cascading years and then the Era of dreams.
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We won't be strictly adhering to the timeline of 2E, after this is two (relatively peaceful) epochs.
 
Rihaku said:
If you guys do hit Greatness 10, that also grants you a choice of perks among which is an additional pick. I know you don't care compared to the importance of getting a new Title, but I thought I'd throw that out there.

There will be options to potentially decrease your Heartlessness as well in future, less war-like Epochs, but these will come at heavy cost.
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I imagine that the implication is that Heartlessness is generally a bad thing, but mostly only to Odyssial (Unless we cross that Heartlessness 11 threshold apparently)?

My own take on it is "The higher your Heartlessness, the further people went to try to squash your memory, and the fewer people bothered to hold the torch high"
 
Alectai said:
I imagine that the implication is that Heartlessness is generally a bad thing, but mostly only to Odyssial (Unless we cross that Heartlessness 11 threshold apparently)?
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It's not necessarily all bad. It will mostly affect your legacy, how you are perceived, and what you leave behind in the world - both objects and things of consequence.
 
Rihaku said:
It's not necessarily all bad. It will mostly affect your legacy, how you are perceived, and what you leave behind in the world - both objects and things of consequence.
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So, the advantage of High Heartlessness is that we've amassed more resource and advantage, but the advantage to low Heartlessness means that they're more likely to exist without significant strings attached, and fewer rabid nemesises in the Age of Sorrows?

Like, for instance, we would take the option to get the Black Ship, and with low Heartlessness, it would have been preserved by a tribe of Odyssian loyalists ready for the master to return--but high Heartlessness, it would have been more likely seized and buried someplace we would have a hard time getting to it for?
 
[X] Protector of the West
[X] The Conquering King

These two have a very nice synergy. He's the ruler of the west, traveling from nation to nation in his black ship. I like the idea of making the entire west his legacy.

[X] The Rose Blossoms

The sword of endings was tempting, but I want to learn more about the lady of masks.
 
Alectai said:
So, the advantage of High Heartlessness is that we've amassed more resource and advantage, but the advantage to low Heartlessness means that they're more likely to exist without significant strings attached, and fewer rabid nemesises in the Age of Sorrows?
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As if any of Odyssial's enemies survived long enough to become nemeses... Heartlessness is what it is. A lack of general compassion, a willingness to do things most would consider reprehensible in pursuit of their goals.
 
Rihaku said:
If you guys do hit Greatness 10, that also grants you a choice of perks among which is an additional pick. I know you don't care compared to the importance of getting a new Title, but I thought I'd throw that out there.
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For a second there I thought you meant Title in the sense of "Strategos", and I was like "Unique perks are way better." Then I realised that by Title you meant an even cooler version of [Surpassing the Unconquered] and I got hyped.
 
Orm Embar said:
As if any of Odyssial's enemies survived long enough to become nemeses... Heartlessness is what it is. A lack of general compassion, a willingness to do things most would consider reprehensible in pursuit of their goals.
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If any of them survived that long and had a bone to pick, they're likely to be of truly apocalyptic strength by now.

And it's Ulyssian that would have to take that kind on.
 
Alectai said:
So, the advantage of High Heartlessness is that we've amassed more resource and advantage, but the advantage to low Heartlessness means that they're more likely to exist without significant strings attached, and fewer rabid nemesises in the Age of Sorrows?

Like, for instance, we would take the option to get the Black Ship, and with low Heartlessness, it would have been preserved by a tribe of Odyssian loyalists ready for the master to return--but high Heartlessness, it would have been more likely seized and buried someplace we would have a hard time getting to it for?
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All the disadvantages that accrue from being cruel and unlikeable can accrue to he whose Heartlessness exceeds reason. Or at least, what blithering fools consider the limits of the reasonable.

Perhaps that is what Odyssial would say.

Orm Embar said:
As if any of Odyssial's enemies survived long enough to become nemeses... Heartlessness is what it is. A lack of general compassion, a willingness to do things most would consider reprehensible in pursuit of their goals.
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Yes, I doubt you'd have to worry about direct enemies per se, though entities like Chejob and other Elders would certainly remember. That said, I am pretty sure the Wracking is still canon, which means Ketchup is not somewhere you particularly have to worry about him.
 
Rihaku said:
Their names do follow the pattern of <Melancholy Adjective> [Noun related to the color White], don't they?

We won't be strictly adhering to the timeline of 2E, after this is two (relatively peaceful) epochs.
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Yep its a pattern all right. Was bestdragonbull a Lost Egg from the west as well?

With Heartlessness, its the essential core of the great curse in Odyssial/Ulyssian right? I wonder what personal touches Lethos put in his death curse to Odyssial as the final blow was delivered.
 
CharlBaal said:
Yep its a pattern all right. Was bestdragonbull a Lost Egg from the west as well?

With Heartlessness, its the essential core of the great curse in Odyssial/Ulyssian right? I wonder what personal touches Lethos put in his death curse to Odyssial as the final blow was delivered.
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"Drown in your Ideals and die?"

Setting someone with big ambitions to never be satisfied with anything he can actually achieve seems a good curse.
 
I was looking it over, and i really feel the greatness multiplier from lord Strategos sets a rather unfortunate precedent for heartless, so I'm going to pass there. Though all that XP is damned appealing

[X] The Sword of Endings
Sidereal allies are never to be underestimated, and I'll be honest, the shiny intrigues me.
[X] The Rose Blossoms
Glorious Lunar Waifu is a go!
 
CharlBaal said:
Yep its a pattern all right. Was bestdragonbull a Lost Egg from the west as well?

With Heartlessness, its the essential core of the great curse in Odyssial/Ulyssian right? I wonder what personal touches Lethos put in his death curse to Odyssial as the final blow was delivered.
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Odyssial: You "cursed" me with something that I can use to become an even more efficient machine of murder? I should kill even more Titans.
Other Primordials: Not as planned!
 
Alectai said:
If any of them survived that long and had a bone to pick, they're likely to be of truly apocalyptic strength by now.
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As was just stated, we don't have to worry about direct enemies, and the Fivescore Fellowship is not in a position to exact any kind of retribution in the Age of Sorrows.

Anyway, we opted in favor of becoming a general, so we ought to build on that legend. Part of that entails accepting the cruel realities of war.
 
CharlBaal said:
Yep its a pattern all right. Was bestdragonbull a Lost Egg from the west as well?
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I don't think Hero hailed from the West, no. He's a very stolid person, I imagine he'd come from a continental region close to the Blessed Isle's shore.

With Heartlessness, its the essential core of the great curse in Odyssial/Ulyssian right? I wonder what personal touches Lethos put in his death curse to Odyssial as the final blow was delivered.
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Lethos wouldn't dare do shit to Odyssial, not that it even could. It got turned into a freaking river.
 
Orm Embar said:
As was just stated, we don't have to worry about direct enemies, and the Fivescore Fellowship is not in a position to exact any kind of retribution in the Age of Sorrows.
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Directly, no, didn't stop Anys Syn from being an unstoppable hellbeast defeated only because "It is SESUS ULYSSIAN with an INFERNAL EXALTATION", plus full mastery of an entire Immaculate Martial Art and driven by Zhao's last words.

Even then, it was a difficult battle, and we would have been fucked if Sad Ivory intervened.
 
Rihaku said:
Guys, don't neglect the benefit of Sword of Endings! Not only is Sepulchral Pearlescence the pre-incarnation of a very relevant NPC, whose behavior she will affect heavily, you can, with a few other picks, get an Artifact N/A sword that can be stored in your anima, easy for Ulyssian to retrieve just by learning a certain Charm!

No tomb guardians and labyrinths of horror necessary!
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But, I like tomb guardians and labyrinths of horror!
 
Alectai said:
Directly, no, didn't stop Anys Syn from being an unstoppable hellbeast defeated only because "It is SESUS ULYSSIAN with an INFERNAL EXALTATION", plus full mastery of an entire Immaculate Martial Art.
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I think that handicapping ourselves because of possible future enemies is a lamentable trend to start. Such actions are cowardly at best, and moderation is not at all in keeping with Odyssial's themes.
 
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vali said:
But, I like tomb guardians and labyrinths of horror!
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You would. But Odyssial's tomb guardians are not so easily overcome with ramen alone...

Well, there are plenty of other tombs for you to raid for Odyssial's artifacts, this just gets you one without having to go through with them! Kinda avoids the Catch-22 situation of "you can't brave the Tomb, because you need the power sealed within a Tomb first."
 
How would Lord Strategos synergize with the Social Link options? Would the highest of high command in the Solar Host really have lots of time to go on adventures with a Siddie and his waifu?

I suppose the same could be said about Protector of the West...
 
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