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So I am thinking, if we accept a satrap posting, then our party heading out to the posting is gonna be choked full of Anys Syn's lackeys.

So, if such a party were to be wiped out to the man by a pair of Anathema, leaving nothing behind except bunch of crystal formations(Or silver sand, or radiation. I don't actually know who the Infernals are bound to)... That can only be good for us.

Investigators from the bronze faction finds nothing of Sesus Ulysses, except maybe a couple chips from Zao's armor.

Like honest, the Satraps are not important at all, let the fucking deathlord and and lunar and Rakasha carve it up. They will probably start fighting among themselves after they carve it up anyway.

We can disappear, and go and do our own thing with Ivory/Pearl. Even if we just find some mountain without people and train for a year, it will be more productive than walking into Anys Syn's trap and work within her system. Right now, Anys Syn has assumed the role of the Technocracy. She has seized the whole system(of the Realm) and it going to use it to grind us down as a institution vs a individual. I say screw that, lets do our own thing.

Go train, go learn sorcery, go on a quest to find our waifu, go on a quest to gather Odyssial's hidden cache and build an army. Go to heaven and ask for a turn at the games.
 
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Deadly Snark said:
You are potentially right, but you are also overlooking that there are advantages to giving Zao, or Moon, Ambition while Anys's attention is mostly focused on us and she feels completely secure against Zao.
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No, I'm not.
That sort of stuff needs well devloped plans to support it and while we're slowly getting there a lot of stuff needs to be worked out before it becomes a viable option to consider at all.
Meanwhile we have multiple votes for it already that are lead with statements like "Let's escalate back!" and completely ignore how that alone is clearly not enough to make the option even worth considering.
 
CrawlingChaos74 said:
[X] Luseng
[X] Keep Ambition

After thinking it over going to Luseng without Ambition would probably be a very bad idea as it'd drastically increase the chance of us dying horribly.
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Well, if you do buy Wake the Sleeper, and awaken a weapon AND armor, that might compensate for losing Ambition, at least to some degree. Maybe a 30% or 40% restoration compared to 50%, but enough for government work!
 
Deadly Snark said:
You are potentially right, but you are also overlooking that there are advantages to giving Zao, or Moon, Ambition while Anys's attention is mostly focused on us and she feels completely secure against Zao.
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Anys is not so foolish as to dismiss other potential threats. Additionally, the update mentioned her informants in the Academy. If Moon suddenly starts walking around with Ulyssian's uber-sword, she will know. Which would actually make her pay more attention to the Academy, and possible even move against it.

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[X] Keep Ambition
 
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Gerrou said:
Anys is not so foolish as to dismiss other potential threats. Additionally, the update mentioned her informants in the Academy. If Moon suddenly starts walking around with Ulyssian's uber-sword, she will know. Which would actually make her pay more attention to the Academy, and possible even move against it.
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You mean her informants that have all been rendered worthless by our actions? As mentioned in the update? Which is you know, one of the reasons that pushed her into doing this stunt?
 
VanusDraco said:
So I am thinking, if we accept a satrap posting, then our party heading out to the posting is gonna be choked full of Anys Syn's lackeys.

So, if such a party were to be wiped out to the man by a pair of Anathema, leaving nothing behind except bunch of crystal formations(Or silver sand, or radiation. I don't actually know who the Infernals are bound to)... That can only be good for us.

Investigators from the bronze faction finds nothing of Sesus Ulysses, except maybe a couple chips from Zao's armor.

Like honest, the Satraps are not important at all, let the fucking deathlord and and lunar and Rakasha carve it up. They will probably start fighting among themselves after they carve it up anyway.
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So basically, Fading Away, but with more damage to Syn and more risk to yourself? It's probably viable, though that's considerable risk to yourself in exchange for modest damage to Syn.

Pipeman said:
No, I'm not.
That sort of stuff needs well devloped plans to support it and while we're slowly getting there a lot of stuff needs to be worked out before it becomes a viable option to consider at all.
Meanwhile we have multiple votes for it already that are lead with statements like "Let's escalate back!" and completely ignore how that alone is clearly not enough to make the option even worth considering.
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Everything benefits from well-developed plans!

Serous said:
I wonder if there is some event that we can cause that would require her to make a public appearance.
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The general public doesn't know that Hesiesh is back, so it's a real problem. Only the highest echelons of power get a showing; too bad they're the ones that matter most.
 
Rihaku said:
Well, if you do buy Wake the Sleeper, and awaken a weapon AND armor, that might compensate for losing Ambition, at least to some degree. Maybe a 30% or 40% restoration compared to 50%, but enough for government work!
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So, we'd be at essentially 70-80% combat power instead of 50%? Or do you mean 80-90% effectiveness?

A 10% temporary reduction in exchange for getting another Solar Tier on the table that isn't a known figure would, indeed, be a worthy trade.
 
Also, what was Zao's reaction to the whole Infernal thing? I was curious as to whether or not he would have developed convulsions or not. The forecast had some seriously entertaining prognostications which we don't seem to have seen.
 
Serous said:
Does Saery know we're a Solar? We did graduate already, after all.
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It hasn't been six months yet, just four!

Alectai said:
So, we'd be at essentially 70-80% combat power instead of 50%? Or do you mean 80-90% effectiveness?

A 10% temporary reduction in exchange for getting another Solar Tier on the table that isn't a known figure would, indeed, be a worthy trade.
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The former. But they wouldn't be ~Solar Tier until you got E5 and WtS!

Emerald Oracle said:
Also, what was Zao's reaction to the whole Infernal thing? I was curious as to whether or not he would have developed convulsions or not. The forecast had some seriously entertaining prognostications which we don't seem to have seen.
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What do you mean?

Reckless_Sun said:
@Rihaku
Is there a Open Rebellion option?

[X] Keep Ambition
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Sure, as a Write-In. You'd need to convince Zao, though. An open rebellion wouldn't be good for The Realm or Creation.
 
Rihaku said:
So basically, Fading Away, but with more damage to Syn and more risk to yourself? It's probably viable, though that's considerable risk to yourself in exchange for modest damage to Syn.
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Well, feigning compliance and setting out to the Threshold would probably make Anys Syn complacent. And having the entire party annihilated by Infernals along the way would not be something that would immediately leap out as "obviously Ulyssian faked his own death." She has her paranoia about the Yozis and Ulyssian as a powerful Solar tied to Zao and the Realm, at least for the time being, would "obviously" be an obstacle to their plans. So she will be more likely to accept it as possible that Ulyssian actually is dead, and with any luck might turn the Immaculate Order toward a witch hunt of Infernals inside the Realms, which will (hopefully) fray the allegiances of the Great Houses and damage the moral authority of the Order.

And then Pearl, Moon, and Nilul can slip out of the Academy and join up with us. We may or may not leave Ambition to Zao; it's a big, bold, powerful move that would hopefully keep him alive in the next few months and beyond, but we're not exactly sure he'd return it if asked or prove... pliable if he reaches power. Either way we can then working on exposing/killing Anys Syn, and gathering power. Seeking out Lealope would probably be the best option there.
 
Choosing Serentidopolis has a higher chance of an assassination attempt by Anys Syn, not counting those mentioned in the briefing. It also means actual government work.

Luseng appeals to me aesthetically. An impossible three-way battle against Creation's enemies. If we survive, we get the loyalty of the garrison. Anys is unlikely to bother Ulyssian either, as the posting is certain to finish him off by itself. Anyway, going in there without Ambition is suicide.
 
Cavalier said:
Well, feigning compliance and setting out to the Threshold would probably make Anys Syn complacent. And having the entire party annihilated by Infernals along the way would not be something that would immediately leap out as "obviously Ulyssian faked his own death." She has her paranoia about the Yozis and Ulyssian as a powerful Solar tied to Zao and the Realm, at least for the time being, would "obviously" be an obstacle to their plans. So she will be more likely to accept it as possible that Ulyssian actually is dead, and with any luck might turn the Immaculate Order toward a witch hunt of Infernals inside the Realms, which will (hopefully) fray the allegiances of the Great Houses and damage the moral authority of the Order.

And then Pearl, Moon, and Nilul can slip out of the Academy and join up with us. We may or may not leave Ambition to Zao; it's a big, bold, powerful move that would hopefully keep him alive in the next few months and beyond, but we're not exactly sure he'd return it if asked or prove... pliable if he reaches power. Either way we can then working on exposing/killing Anys Syn, and gathering power. Seeking out Lealope would probably be the best option there.
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Hmm, in which case we probably want to go to

[ ] Serentidopolis - The ancient city-state of Serentidopolis holds an L-shaped territory that borders the Inland Sea to the north and the Dreaming Sea to the south. For this reason it has become a cosmopolitan hub of trade and cultural development. Enormously corrupt, the ineffectual nature of Realm governance in the territory is the stuff of legend. Much of its territory is barren desert, so it relies heavily on imports to feed its discontent citizenry. Recently, the city has suffered the disfavor of Heaven, for unknown reasons, causing already stymied mechanisms of governance to grind to a screeching halt. Nomad swarms and rival city-states eye its opulence greedily; the shape of its territory is hardly defensible. Backers of prodigious strength want the city erased, but their ultimate motivations are unknown. The last seven satraps and their immediate families all died of assassination: gruesome, terrible deaths.

Since that seems to be an Infernal Ploy. We could also gain some more favor from Ayala and Fei Ling if we help them accomplish their primary objective in the area.

Van Ropen said:
We can teleport it straight to our hand, no?
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Rihaku has already answered that with don't underestimate the Last Shogun.
 
Rihaku said:
The former. But they wouldn't be ~Solar Tier until you got E5 and WtS!
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Yes, but in the time we'll be in Luseng, they'll be developing the earlier Evocations, which ensures even greater impact when we achieve Essence 5 and WtS them.

Approximately how effective in combat would a theoretical "70% Power Ulyssian" be?
 
Rihaku said:
In between stances, Anys Syn contemplated the problem of the young Solar.
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I like Syn, here. She's got some personality, some fire, but mostly it's long been banked and cold under the weight of keeping the Realm alive. She's settled into her position for so long she's not even seeing the irony of that position.
Naval casualties were down thirty percent. The last Niobraran incursion had not only been repelled, but obliterated. The pirate fleets of the Scarlet Flag were hemorrhaging support after a titanic and unforeseen hurricane had devastated the navies of the West - all save those of the Realm, who had somehow been forewarned. The supply chain had become more efficient. Procurement costs were down twenty percent. Faxai had never seen such an uninterrupted stream of men and materials. And Zao's grip over the Admiralty had become absolutely unshakable. Her own plants were largely marginalized or pushed into irrelevant commands.
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Well that investment turned out well. Who or what are the Niobrarans?
She recognized them well, the signs of a Solar strategist. That simple, effortless excellence which permeated everything he touched. Perfection without needing to try - that was their hallmark.
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Well that's not very fair!
She needed to extract Flame, and re-asses. Zao had already turned Ivory, her third-deadliest asset
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Now who is the second, I wonder?
 
Cavalier said:
Well, feigning compliance and setting out to the Threshold would probably make Anys Syn complacent. And having the entire party annihilated by Infernals along the way would not be something that would immediately leap out as "obviously Ulyssian faked his own death." She has her paranoia about the Yozis and Ulyssian as a powerful Solar tied to Zao and the Realm, at least for the time being, would "obviously" be an obstacle to their plans. So she will be more likely to accept it as possible that Ulyssian actually is dead, and with any luck might turn the Immaculate Order toward a witch hunt of Infernals inside the Realms, which will (hopefully) fray the allegiances of the Great Houses and damage the moral authority of the Order.

And then Pearl, Moon, and Nilul can slip out of the Academy and join up with us. We may or may not leave Ambition to Zao; it's a big, bold, powerful move that would hopefully keep him alive in the next few months and beyond, but we're not exactly sure he'd return it if asked or prove... pliable if he reaches power. Either way we can then working on exposing/killing Anys Syn, and gathering power. Seeking out Lealope would probably be the best option there.
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That's a pretty good way to execute it, sure.

You would owe Ayala and Fei Ling a HUGE FAVOR though.

Van Ropen said:
We can teleport it straight to our hand, no?
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Depends on how powerful he grows. I won't say he can for sure master it to that degree, but... don't underestimate Lung Feng Zao.

Guile said:
Now who is the second, I wonder?
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Her left hand!
 
Rihaku said:
So basically, Fading Away, but with more damage to Syn and more risk to yourself? It's probably viable, though that's considerable risk to yourself in exchange for modest damage to Syn.
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[X] Fading Away

Basically a rough stunt of how I want to fade away. I was assuming that the entourage to take over the Satrap wouldn't be overly large. My estimation was something along the lines of less than 15 DBs and a bunch of extras. I am thinking that calling in the Infernals, and Ivory plus Uly, we'd have 4 pretty high tier solaroid, one of which have access to Adamant circle sorcery. Wiping out such a force could probably be done, even if, especially if all the DBs are focusing on a way to stab us in the back.

Just to reiterate my edit, Even if we just find some mountain without people and train for a year, it will be more productive than walking into Anys Syn's trap and work within her system. Right now, Anys Syn has assumed the role of the Dragnocracy. She has seized the whole system(of the Realm) and it going to use it to grind us down as a institution vs a individual. I say screw that, lets do our own thing.

Go train, go learn sorcery, go on a quest to find our waifu, go on a quest to gather Odyssial's hidden cache and build an army. Go to heaven and ask for a turn at the games.
 
[X] Cavalier
I trust your reasonings.
I wanted to go save Rome myself but eh. The one with Deathlords and Infernal is the other one?
[X] Don't give Moon Ambition
Because it's much more optimal to use it ourself or Zao's. Moon is still limited to E5 isn't she?
 
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