[Exalted, ?] Most High

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We have a pretty close vote here for capabilities, though I think both are incredibly potent in war or in peace. Do you guys have any ideas as to what you want to do after leaving the tournament, though? I have some, but it's always nice for the character to have plans, and some might even go through!
Well, I was mostly talking about your prospects after you graduate. Taking a satrapy with Cathak as your sworn enemy means you're invariably going to be assigned to a shit or difficult post, unless you scrounge up some major influence. If Cathak hates you enough to act against their own interests just to ruin you, that is a major problem. In that light, do you guys still want to go with a satrapal posting, or would you prefer more imminent power seized through drastic action?
If we get Strategos and the civil war won't immediately blossom, going for the Loom of Fate now seems like a good if still quite risky option. Like I said earlier, PoSC should make it somewhat safer. And with increased Essence and more Evocations, even if we are revealed before slinking away, we have greater chances of survival. After that, if we still go for the Satrapy, we could start searching for fellow Anathema who to ally with while at the same time guarding the border of Creation.

As for Cathak trying to scew us up... Could we use that to trick them to giving us a difficult post with lots and lots of threats to the Realm and Creation? It would give us the benefits I mentioned, as well as throwing us straight to conflict. And most of the Exalted thrive on conflict (translated as XP). With those and the prestige we would hopefully be accumulating, seems like a pretty good way to go about things.
Then we're going to have to confer with the heads of the Zao Faction, take our lumps from the Shogun and figure out how to ameliorate these issues. We may have to attempt to slay the great beast known as politics. See about that Cathak apology fruit basket. It will be an edifice worthy of such a revered elder's death.
That would probably just seem adding insult to the injury to them.
 
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As for Cathak trying to scew us up... Could we use that trick them giving us a difficult post with lots and lots of threats to the Realm and Creation? It would give us the benefits I mentioned, as well as throwing us straight to conflict. And most of the Exalted thrive on conflict (translated as XP). With those and the prestige we would hopefully be accumulating, seems like a pretty good way to go about things.

Sure, as long as they think it'll kill you!

We just have to throw all our XP at Solar Crafting for a while and then we send them The Apology Fruit Basket.
It will make them forgive us everything.

Have you seen the Craft tree? I don't think you have that much XP total.
 
Is there anything stopping us from using resources 4 to hire a legion and conquer a better spot?

and by poor posting, does that mean an undeveloped place out in the boonies, or someplace threatened by anathema/fairfolk? I think we could turn either to our advantage even if it's a poor starting position.

Mostly I want to contact lea and build up a power base that can't be suddenly turned against us by anys, so I'm still for satrapy.

On that matter, we should give the infernal identities over to anys as a peace offering which also obligates her to spend her own resources on solving the problem instead of sending them at us.
 
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Aren't we kind of shit at being an Admiral though?

Can we use this to justify a return to Wanderer or something similar?
We did kind of just deprive the Realm of one of its greatest defenders and respond by a public show of massive remorse. Some kind of "atonement" journey may be in order, though the question is if it'd be that effective.
The basic idea would be to semi-publicly murderhobo our way through Creation and sluaghter the shit out of visible threats to the Realm until we return "wiser and less headstrong" for the experience and of course with a boatload of Odyssial's old goodies that we picked up during our time as a murderhobo.
Huh. That actually seems like a pretty good idea. In addition to advantages you already outlined, likely less susceptible to Cathak political shenanigans and might allow us to pick old and new allies if we happen to run to such people (maybe even those scattered loyalist DBs, if there are any left). Also, its likely the option with the most conflict, so lots and lots of XP. If we aren't reasonably sure about being able to pick Satrapy we would prefer, I would go for this idea.
 
Hm. It seems sorcery may be winning on arguments now. Do note that, while it has many advantages, Sorcery does not let you ace the Naval Exams with flying colors in only one day of studying.

Question: Since it's the whole...Prophet thing that'd be letting Ulyssian do that, could he make it broader than Just Ulyssian? Perhaps including all of Zao's class in The Epic Learning Adventure?
 
Well, I was mostly talking about your prospects after you graduate. Taking a satrapy with Cathak as your sworn enemy means you're invariably going to be assigned to a shit or difficult post, unless you scrounge up some major influence.
Well, if we're not starting the war, remorse for killing one of the Realm's heroes is a good excuse for wholeheartedly "serving the Realm," reinforcing and reconstructing the Navy - strengthening it, purging corruption, and making it more independent from the Houses - and then using that powerbase to shape the conflicts between the Houses.

Basically, create a powerbase and use it to bribe the Houses into keeping their jockeying for power from breaking out into outright Civil War.

And the Navy's pretty likely to be sent against threats that House Cathak might think will kill us, yeah?
 
Lets make that attempt on the Loom of Fate and the benefits from assigning our self insanely good astrological blessings from the Loom of Fate. Strategos all the way people.
 
Well, I do hate to have to go back and revisit an earlier voting point (particularly one my side won), but consolidating gains to gain favor in House Sesus after this move seems like the best move. They'll either have to stand behind us or repudiate us over this move, and I think it'll come down to beers and finger sandwiches all around as we toast a weakening of House Cathak and the rising star of Sesus. If they do repudiate us to try and save face with Cathak, then at least we know where we stand with them, and we can move on without any further attempts at mending bridges.

From there, the admiralty does actually seem like a pretty good idea. We're not a great admiral, but we're an exceptional warrior and general, and that counts for a lot. If we're going to marshal strength for the eventual civil war, Zao's old plan of sending us to win glory against evil Anathema and convert more reasonable solaroids to the cause is likely to produce huge gains, if a single Solar can really fight about on par with a Legion. That's liable to produce more strength for our side than trying to use our very mediocre attempts at politics (beyond the House Sesus thing, where we have some other benefits).
 
Would it be viable to just get the sorcery initiations added on to the Strategos build without overly damaging its capabilities as long as we don't plan to spend much xp and training time on workings just yet. While the best strategic aspects of sorcery are the workings long range teleport and the spying capability of infallible messenger could be massive boons to the strategos builds play style as it lets us be anywhere and spy for information to fuel lore charms.

If us pissing off Cathak damages our ability to get a Catrapy posting that much maybe admiralty is the better option now and we use our time away from creation to buff up the navy.
 
Would it be viable to just get the sorcery initiations added on to the Strategos build without overly damaging its capabilities as long as we don't plan to spend much xp and training time on workings just yet. While the best strategic aspects of sorcery are the workings long range teleport and the spying capability of infallible messenger could be massive boons to the strategos builds play style as it lets us be anywhere and spy for information to fuel lore charms.

If us pissing off Cathak damages our ability to get a Catrapy posting that much maybe admiralty is the better option now and we use our time away from creation to buff up the navy.
Considering the Strategos build will be building to its own nation-destroying power-ups, I think splitting our XP that way is ill-advised.
 
Aren't we kind of shit at being an Admiral though?

Can we use this to justify a return to Wanderer or something similar?
We did kind of just deprive the Realm of one of its greatest defenders and respond by a public show of massive remorse. Some kind of "atonement" journey may be in order, though the question is if it'd be that effective.
The basic idea would be to semi-publicly murderhobo our way through Creation and sluaghter the shit out of visible threats to the Realm until we return "wiser and less headstrong" for the experience and of course with a boatload of Odyssial's old goodies that we picked up during our time as a murderhobo.
Yeah, and it goes great with Sorcery. The risk reveal as Anathema disappears, while things like teleportation will nicely help the mobility.
 
Would it be viable to just get the sorcery initiations added on to the Strategos build without overly damaging its capabilities as long as we don't plan to spend much xp and training time on workings just yet.
Not really. Strategos needs to get Wake the Sleeper ASAP for tasty free evocations.

That doesn't rule out getting sorcery later, but it wouldn't be immediate.
 
Let us use Reason like civilized Exalts

Ulyssian was sprawled out on the divan in the apartment's living room. One might, if they were unfamiliar with his nature and habits, assume he was relaxing. In fact he was keenly concentrating on his superhuman hearing, listening for the signs of someone approaching the door. Sitting kept his armor from scuffing against his body and so limited a possible distraction. That his posture was also comfortable and rested his body at the same time was merely optimal.

Nilul on the other hand was lounging over a pile of pillows at the other end of the stuffed bank of seats. Her present form betrayed nothing of her descent from the Scarlet Empress. Her hair was a frosty blonde instead of the fiery red associated with the Empress, her eyes pools of blue sufficient to shame any Dynast who boasted them, and her face had more rounded features compared to the sharp nose and prominent cheekbones of the Imperial line. A kimono of blue silk, dyed in the colors of Venus, draped her form, and to some of his supernatural senses she registered similar to Pearl.

The Ebon Dragon's powers were, indeed, superb at allowing one to pretend to be something they were not.

"How did you talk me into this, Uly?" Assumed boredom inflected her voice. When he turned to look to her, she batted her eyes at him.

"Because the only way to be sure the Infernals do not know of your identity is to interrogate them," he said, repeating his logic earlier. "And I promised to kill them if they had discovered your identity. Also, don't call me Uly."

She giggled at the shared joke, but it was fragile. Ulyssian knew her instincts were rooted in flight, not confrontation. But when he had pointed out that fleeing the Infernals would leave the question or whether or not they knew of her unanswered, she had found courage to join him. In a convenient disguise, of course. The alternative had been discarding her identity entirely and hiding as far as possible from her known associates. She would take a risk for Ulyssian, Moon, and the others around them at the Academy.

That he had slain Cathak Polemgaos in a single blow had enhanced his case, of course. If the Infernals knew and would not submit, he would slay them on the spot. That would be… a challenge, to be sure, but it actually was necessary. And if the Infernals didn't know, then it was a chance to figure out their agendas and, perhaps, make them work to his ends.

The scrapping of shoes against the sandalwood floor just outside the entrance alerted Ulyssian. He sprang to his feet, moving as silently as a mouse, while Nilul seemed to dissolve into the shadows of the unlighted room. As the handle on the door squeaked, Ulyssian tested a theory. He nodded in Nilul's direction, and as they had considered beforehand, she subvocalized a warning.

'Get out! There is a trap here!'

If they responded to it, Ulyssian would have very little choice but to kill them.

Instead, the door swung open. Fei Ling, the swordswoman and bodyguard of the Mnemon champion, was in first. She scowled as her eyes swung over on Ulyssian and drew her sword. Ulyssian stepped forward, and in a flash of afterimages stood before her with Ambition drawn.

"Sesus Ulyssian," a melodious voice rang out from behind her. The sorceress stepped over to Fei Ling's side. She examined him curiously. "Why are you here?"

"We need to talk," Ulyssian replied gruffly. "In private. Unobserved."

"And you didn't just think to send a messenger?" Fei Ling responded acidly. "And what manner of greeting is a brandished sword?"

"Fei Ling, Mnemon Ayala. There is little time for games so I will cut to the point." He tightened his grip on Ambition, and prepared to flow into a supreme defensive stance. "I know you are both servants of the Yozis. That is a concern of mine, and of my master, Admiral Zao."

Fei Ling tensed up. "These are outrageous accusations from someone suspected of being Anathema."

Her companion instead laughed. "So you know. I don't think you will answer how. But you, Sesus Ulyssian, are not suspected of being Anathema. You are a Solar Exalted."

Ulyssian inclined his head. It was to be expected that the servants of the Yozis would have means to contest his disguise. At least until he improved it further. "So we are at an impasse. You know my secret, and I know yours."

"Not quite," Ayala responded in sing-song lilt. "We are two and you are one. I didn't win so easily today as you did, but those odds are favorable."

"The odds said I had only a four in ten chance against Cathak Polemgaos," Ulyssian replied smoothly. "You saw how that went."

"We did. You were lucky, Sesus," Fei Ling responded. "Perhaps you would be so lucky again, but I think not. I saw how you beat the old Dragonblood. You would not best me that way."

"Then I would find another way," Ulyssian replied with a bemused grin. "I always find a way."

Ayala blinked her eyes at the boast, and rocked on her heels to lean forward to state at Ulyssian. After a pregnant moment she blinked again, and her eyes widened. "It is you. Lord Odyssial. How did you…?" She shook her head. "No, you always find a way. Even the Shinma themselves say so."

A very slight tremor betrayed Fei Ling. She gave no other indication of recognizing him personally, but it was clear she knew of Odyssial.

Ulyssian nodded. "How does that change your estimation of the odds?"

"For the worse," Ayala admitted candidly. "You are not of the strength you were, but it is only a matter of time before you eclipse all others. How long have you been Exalted, a year? No…" She paused for a moment and then shook her head. "The story of your bout with that student in the Seacrown Arena. Two months. Then what would you have us speak of, Lord Strategos?"

"Your mission, for one." If they served the Ebon Dragon, their lives would probably be forfeit within minutes. "And your castes and patrons."

"Our mission is the same one that Shogun Feng sent you on, Lord Odyssial," Ayala answered cheekily. "She Who Lives in Her Name does not desire that Creation be swallowed by Fae or overrun by the abomination of the Underworld before she has her chance to mend its flaws. Nor would our own King Malfeas allow the dissolution of Creation to spare the traitor gods the ten thousand years of torment he has mercifully sentenced them to."

"And your castes?" Odyssial eyed them both warily.

Ayala nodded, and a green flame appeared upon her forehead, shining sickly light into the room. Seconds later, reluctantly, Fei Ling displayed her caste-mark of crossed sabers. "I am of the Chosen of Malfeas, the Slayers. My charge here is chosen by She Who Lives in Her Name and is of the Defiler caste."

"So the Yozis have not changed any in the past thousand years, as they did not in the five thousand beforehand," Ulyssian commented drily. He shrugged his shoulders, a signal for Nilul to reveal herself. She slinked out of the shadows with a sultry walk. "Also the odds were not two against one. This is Frost Blossom, Chosen of the Maidens. Or Tepet Nilul, as she was known under her most recent guise."

'Blossom' revealed a razor-lined war fan from the folds of her sleeve. "I wish it were more of a pleasure to meet you two," she added coyly.

"Likewise," Ayala stated. "So what now, Lord Odyssial? If we report to Malfeas your existence, efforts will be made to destroy you. Unless, perhaps, you have seen the folly of loyalty to the gods after the Usurpation? You would be a welcome ally for the Reclamation."

"I owed the Unconquered Sun a tremendous gift," Ulyssian stated quietly, "and still do. But I was not loyal to Yu Shan. I had my own vision of a new Creation. A world where the strong do not prey on the weak. Where justice is a principle instead of a lie. That is what I aim for. And what would the Yozis offer you for your efforts?"

"A chance to save Creation," Ayala answered swiftly. "They have power, though it is caged. They are dangerous to harness, but it is necessary. They will emerge in time; the Reclamation has too many resources and too many talented agents. It is better to side with the Yozis and seek to heal their broken natures than to risk Creation to the disinterest of the Incarna or the avarice of the Dragonblooded."

"Then I offer an alternative," Ulyssian replied. "I will find a way to save Creation that does not give the Primordials freedom to run amok and crush humanity under foot again." He looked at Fei Ling and Ayala, challenging them in a wordless gesture. "Do either of you have memories of the Time of Glory? Because I remember when Isidoros crushed whole regions in his revels. When Kimbery flooded a dozen cities to drown one blasphemer. When a Deva of Lethos murdered the petty remnant of a tribe to win a marketplace bet."

Fei Ling met his gaze longer than Ayala's, but she too broke eye contact as Ulyssian remember his long-gone sister. There was still a trace of fury in his voice when he remembered the incident.

"You know what the Yozis are like, anyway," Nilul said, slinking around Ulyssian's flank. "Adorjan still murders countless First Circles every single hour of every day. Malfeas crushes entire regions and billions of demons. Orabilis still works the will of Cecelyne in eliminating those who hold whatever knowledge she decides is forbidden. And there's the Ebon Dragon…"

"I can't answer that," Ayala replied. "We weren't going to just let them out as soon as we could," she said, shrugging. "So you would have us bet on you, Lord Odyssial, in place of our own patrons?"

"And in place of mine," he replied grimly. "I will save Creation. I would prefer to gather all aid I can. But I will overcome all obstacles in my path."

"I would expect no less." Ayala looked over to Fei Ling. "Odyssial always finds a way. But with what? You know the power and resources at the command of our patrons."

"Does he need more than himself?" Nilul surprised Ulyssian by answering for him. "In two months of Exaltation my lord Odyssial has defeated foes most Celestials would not be able to face in a decade or more. You know of his achievements in the First Age, clearly. But to answer you, he will have the backing of Shogun Feng, which is no small matter among the Dragonblooded. He may count on many other powerful Exalted allies who would not give the Yozis the time of day. Odyssial is still creating his power base, but unlike yours it will not destroy the very mortals he aims to protect."

Fei Ling grimaced. "She has a point there."

"She does," Ayala agreed, and licked her lips. "So you are still assembling your coalition, then?" She clasphed her hands behind her back and rocked back on her heels again. "Then, early contributions will be more valued than later contributions, all else being equal. We would want, hmm, influence on your direction. A say in your deliberations. The resources we need to be effective. And if you, Lord Odyssial, look to reform Creation, then could you not also reform the Yozis?"

His memories touched little on the Yozis, the Primordials, after their defeat. He knew he had intimidated Lethos into assisting his reincarnation. But had Odyssial ever considered fixing the Yozis? Perhaps. As a project for after Creation was righted, undoubtedly. It would not have been a priority. But even the Magnus had thought something needed to be done about the Yozis and their kin, the Neverborn.

"Of course," he answered.

"The safest course would be to say whatever you want to hear, and then return with summoned demons and as many fellow Infernals as we could gather. Or betray you to the Immacualte Order," Ayala mused. "If we wait a few years, my Lord Odyssial, you will grow in power until no single being in all of Creation could defeat you. And while I recognize the flaws of the Yozis, I do owe them a significant debt. But if your word can be trusted you would greatly advance the purpose of the Reclamation without furthering the less desirable consequences of it."

"Then let us discuss the matter further," Ulyssian said while slowly loosening the grip on his sword. Fei Ling relaxed out of her stance. It meant nothing, of course. Both of them could be ready for violence in less than an instant. But it was a gesture the mood was less tense and that negotiations were possible.

They were entering a sphere where Nilul's skills would be far more valuable than his own, so he was inclined to defer to her. That was, after all, the nature of the trust they shared. It was the same in many ways as the trust he had shared with Lealope. But before he did so, there was one other question he wanted answered.

"Your memories of your former incarnation are more extensive than that of most Exalted," Ulyssian said to Ayala. "Who were you?"

Ayala's grin broadened, becoming both teasing and devious. "Wouldn't you like to know, Lord Odyssial?"

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What's the current vote count? Cavalier, would you prefer your write-in to count its voting strength towards Counter-Infiltration, or towards your preference on capabilities? If the former, depending on the votes it may be enough to get some kind of partial result, though Forbearance has won on that score already.

Not really. Strategos needs to get Wake the Sleeper ASAP for tasty free evocations.

That doesn't rule out getting sorcery later, but it wouldn't be immediate.

You don't want to wait until you find a friendly Solaroid capable of using Empowerin Shout on you!?

Lets make that attempt on the Loom of Fate and the benefits from assigning our self insanely good astrological blessings from the Loom of Fate. Strategos all the way people.

There are limits to the power of astrological blessings, and you haven't really augmented your abilities in the infiltration department much. The risks would be much the same; I'm not sure how much Prophet of Seventeen Cycles would help you there. Remember, it affects organizations and things of that scale, and you do need definitive sources to study beforehand. There may not be any definitive sources on the current guardians of the Loom of Fate.
 
I am so bloody disgusted I am more than half-tempted to just ask all the XP from my works be taken away from Ulyssian. Time and time again in all three Quests risk aversion has closed off the most interesting decision points. In the end nothing happens. Zao dies, Ulyssian runs off to the Threshold with his waifu, and the Quest peters out without any kind of major shakeup to the setting. That's exactly what is going to happen now, too. I'm surprised to find myself so disappointed in this perfectly foreseeable outcome, but there you are.

If we don't fight the Civil War now, we won't. It just will not happen in the lifetime of this Quest. No one actually bothered arguing for Remorse as a legitimate choice in and of itself. Ulyssian's characterization, in so far as it came up, was mostly about people not wanting him to "grovel" for whatever the fuck that meant. The vote against starting the war was made overwhelming on bad arguments, the most important of which you yourself directly addressed and debunked and yet which wound up being repeated over and over again. The only time we wind up taking any kind of risk is in choosing to fight something, usually because waifu; every other opportunity we have to do something awesome it's been tossed away because "we need more time to prepare" and "we need to get stronger," which just winds up adding meaningless training montages and plans that never get executed and plot threads that never go anywhere.

What's the current vote count? Cavalier, would you prefer your write-in to count its voting strength towards Counter-Infiltration, or towards your preference on capabilities? If the former, depending on the votes it may be enough to get some kind of partial result, though Forbearance has won on that score already.

Counter-Infiltration. I don't give a damn what spiffy new powers Ulyssian will get if we never do anything meaningful with them.
 
i think it's just that the hivemind tend to be too much of a white knight to do anything remotely close to evil rather than entirely risk aversion

you can run a quest about baby eating and the players would vote to have the protag adopt his first meal as morality pet, and have the rest of the quest be about his journey in fighting child abuse
 
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We've had no problem risking our lives in this quest, for the most part.

Beman, Flame, the Immaculates, this whole tournament arc, the Infernals.
 
I am so bloody disgusted I am more than half-tempted to just ask all the XP from my works be taken away from Ulyssian. Time and time again in all three Quests risk aversion has closed off the most interesting decision points. In the end nothing happens. Zao dies, Ulyssian runs off to the Threshold with his waifu, and the Quest peters out without any kind of major shakeup to the setting. That's exactly what is going to happen now, too. I'm surprised to find myself so disappointed in this perfectly foreseeable outcome, but there you are.

If we don't fight the Civil War now, we won't. It just will not happen in the lifetime of this Quest. No one actually bothered arguing for Remorse as a legitimate choice in and of itself. Ulyssian's characterization, in so far as it came up, was mostly about people not wanting him to "grovel" for whatever the fuck that meant. The vote against starting the war was made overwhelming on bad arguments, the most important of which you yourself directly addressed and debunked and yet which wound up being repeated over and over again. The only time we wind up taking any kind of risk is in choosing to fight something, usually because waifu; every other opportunity we have to do something awesome it's been tossed away because "we need more time to prepare" and "we need to get stronger," which just winds up adding meaningless training montages and plans that never get executed and plot threads that never go anywhere.



Counter-Infiltration. I don't give a damn what spiffy new powers Ulyssian will get if we never do anything meaningful with them.

We generally have to play it safe because we have the whole "actually
Anathema"'thing going on and if that is revealed before we're ready then we're fucked.

The whole point of staying in the Realm instead of running off was to get stronger in relative peace(no Wyld hunt on our asses 24/7), interact with Zao and our friend and gain allies and resources. That's what we've been doing.

I personally did not want to stay but hey you deal with what you get.

Remorse allows us to continue doing what we planned to do. A major reason I wanted Remorse was that it would help with Ulyssian's characterization. He realizes he makes a mistake and owns up to it. Changing from the ruthlessness of Odyissial which is something I want since I don't want Ulyssian to be as ruthless as Odyissial. I want him to be able to acknowledge his mistakes and learn from them. Not ignore them. I even made a write in with that in it.

Plus it's not like we don't take any risk. Rihaku repeatedly warned us not to take on the Immaculates and even said we got lucky on a dice roll. He told us we were not guranteed at all to win this tournament and even admitted that if Cathak had lasted a few more rounds or we had gotten worse rolls then we would be in trouble. We knew the risks about how these choices could backfire on us but went though with it anyways.
 
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We generally have to play it safe because we have the whole "actually
Anathema"'thing going on and if that is revealed before we're ready then we're fucked.

The whole point of staying in the Realm instead of running off was to get stronger in relative peace(no Wyld hunt on our asses 24/7), interact with Zao and our friend and gain allies and resources. That's what we've been doing.

I personally did not want to stay but hey you deal with what you get.

Remorse allows us to continue doing what we planned to do. A major reason I wanted Remorse was that it would help with Ulyssian's characterization. He realizes he makes a mistake and owns up to it. Changing from the ruthlessness of Odyissial which is something I want since I don't want Ulyssian to be as ruthless as Odyissial. I want him to be able to acknowledge his mistakes and learn from them. Not ignore them.
The whole point is to use the mistake to maximize the most good out of it. Even H10 Odyssial feels bad about it. It was a mistake and it killed someone.

Not to own up to it by being sorry about it and then letting it go to waste.
 
The whole point is to use the mistake to maximize the most good out of it. Even H10 Odyssial feels bad about it. It was a mistake and it killed someone.

Not to own up to it by being sorry about it and then letting it go to waste.

Letting it go to waste?

Ulyssian showing actual remorse further makes the claims the immaculate makes about him seem ridiculous. It also makes less people pissed at us which could mean more potential allies or at least less people who want our heads.

Plus I already said I wanted to get away from Odyissial's heartlessness.
 
Letting it go to waste?

Ulyssian showing actual remorse further makes the claims the immaculate makes about him seem ridiculous. It also makes less people pissed at us which could mean more potential allies or at least less people who want our heads.

Plus I already said I wanted to get away from Odyissial's heartlessness.

Why would it? Anathema are lying liars who do whatever it takes to fuck up the world and stuff.
 
Why would it? Anathema are lying liars who do whatever it takes to fuck up the world and stuff.

Because it build on past actions.

Remember if what the immaculate order says is true we exalted only
two months ago.

5 days after that we straight up stomped an immaculate brotherhood that could handle an entire Solar circle.
Then we spared one of the attackers even though we could've gotten away with killing her easily given she had challenged us to a fight to the death. (Still pissed about that but shrug) one of the reasons given for not doing so was that it would give us a merciful reputation.

Here only mere months later and we slaughtered freaking Cathak Polemgaos as easily as we did the immaculates. Showing the remorse we feel builds up that reputation we've been working on. Aka being someone who will kill if need but is merciful when possible.

No one who doesn't have a grudge
against us, knows we're Anthema or knows us well enough to tell we just exalted like Saery is going to believe we're not actually Zao'a secret apprentice as our alibi goes because our growth rate is just that completely absurd. Then you have our actions where we spared Flame's life despite him nearly killing our friend just to get to us, spared Syryns life despite the fact she was still trying to kill us when we did so, and now showing true remorse for accidentally killing Polemgaos. Sure Immacualte teaching say Anathema will do anything but when you consider our strength with our actions people will be even more skeptical than before.

Aside from us either getting blinded sided by our enemies or fucking up, our identity as a Dragonblooded that is Zao's secret apprentice is nearly impenetrable.
 
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Aside from us either getting blinded sided by our enemies or fucking up, our identity as a Dragonblooded that is Zao's secret apprentice is nearly impenetrable.

Only until they fabricate enough evidence, or the Civil War starts and they don't need to answer to the rest of society.

And once they get it to stick? That's it, everything we did becomes an "Anathema Trick", because like most dictatorships, the enemy is both overwhelmingly powerful, yet incompetent enough to be seen through just by playing the party line.
 
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