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[Exalted, ?] Most High

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Orm Embar said:
That our focus our attentions on enhancing the one asset she absolutely cannot subvert: ourselves. Speaking of her turning the Dragon-Blooded against us, there is the possibility of an assassination attempt by Flame, who I'm not sure we can beat reliably with our current build.
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We would curb-stomp Flame into the ground so hard Relentless Ember would feel it. So much of the voting base wants nothing better than to kill him the flood of stunts, XP, and so on would assure it. And we'll prepare against the possibility.

And in any case if we have to "focus on the one asset she absolutely cannot subvert: ourselves" that seems to make the optimal path running off into the Threshold just like the last two games. Since the vote was for staying at the Academy and trying to integrate a bit into Dynastic society, just maybe we ought to focus on the options that make it easier to do that. Otherwise we should have just killed Flame and made haste out of there, and we missed that chance.
 
How long would it take until Moon is finally finished healing?

Since the moment she wakes up she will be demanding answers.
And will Zao reveal Moon's parentage anytime soon?
 
I feel it worth pointing out that having Ivory have the sword means that we don't have a pressing need to spend time learning all the charms that would give us access to it, which frees up our time a bit and allows us to focus on other things, like improving our position.
 
Mannan said:
And will Zao reveal Moon's parentage anytime soon?
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He did in canon right around this point in time, though only at our urging. So... possibly. It depends on us, in large part.
Cavalier said:
And in any case if we have to "focus on the one asset she absolutely cannot subvert: ourselves" that seems to make the optimal path running off into the Threshold just like the last two games. Since the vote was for staying at the Academy and trying to integrate a bit into Dynastic society, just maybe we ought to focus on the options that make it easier to do that. Otherwise we should have just killed Flame and made haste out of there, and we missed that chance.
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My argument for personal power is kind of undermined by the fact that I was the principle advocate for staying and interacting with Dynastic society, isn't it? Still, giving the sword to Ivory is only tangentially related to the matter of our integration, and pursuing interaction with her as you're pushing to do comes at the cost of our chance to mend fences with House Sesus.
Wander said:
I feel it worth pointing out that having Ivory have the sword means that we don't have a pressing need to spend time learning all the charms that would give us access to it, which frees up our time a bit and allows us to focus on other things, like improving our position.
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The problem is that a significant portion of our experience can only be spent on Evocations, sorcery, and martial arts. We lack the latter two, and the breastplate will only allow for so much.
 
Since Night Time has a significant edge, I wonder how much support we can really count on with the Sesus.

i guess it depends on how much they consider us in Zao's camp versus the family. Hiding our light under a bushel at Zao's bequest is already kind of suspect. Like we're okay with letting the family down as long as Zao gives the high sign.
 
Orm Embar said:
My argument for personal power is kind of undermined by the fact that I was the principle advocate for staying and interacting with Dynastic society, isn't it? Still, giving the sword to Ivory is only tangentially related to the matter of our integration, and pursuing interaction with her as you're pushing to do comes at the cost of our chance to mend fences with House Sesus.

The problem is that a significant portion of our experience can only be spent on Evocations, sorcery, and martial arts. We lack the latter two, and the breastplate will only allow for so much.
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We'll be less effective at mending fences... primarily with Ulyssian's parents. There's a lot Zao, Ulyssian, Ivory, and Nilul can do to spin this after the fact, though ceding the first impression is regrettable. Still, we have to prioritize something, and assuring Ivory's support is more than valuable enough to pay the opportunity cost of forging a tighter tie with House Sesus.

And we can, surely, find plenty of Attributes and Abilities to spend Solar XP on. Or take up Sorcery, which does have some useful utility powers at the Terrestrial level. Granted, mostly Demon of the First Circle and Infallible Messenger... Or take up Archery or Thrown and get a fallback ranged Artifact. Not much more difficult to get than an Artifact 2 Daiklave.
 
[X] Ambition

I'm conflicted on who the holder is, but either way I want the Sword that not only promotes excellence but puts forward our agenda even after our demise.

Also, the name lets me make Dynasty Warriors jokes.
 
For things to spend solar xp on there is the purchaseable merits for minor stuff like quick draw, ambidextrous and the like which can be represented by training your body for them if we really wanted to spend solar xp.
 
Hm. After thinking about the matter more deeply, I realized that the Ivory situation is a bit more complicated than I originally planned. Your guys' XP intervention basically ensured that Pearl and Ivory had the same soul, resurrecting Pearl, but unless the Bronze Faction is completely incompetent then things in this update can't go as smoothly as I wanted. Hm.

Well, you'll see come the update.
 
Just handwave it with "well, hahahah, that's what 10 dots in Intelligence is for." The Bronze Faction acted perfectly reasonably and as thoroughly as they possibly could, but it just didn't work because Odyssial Always Finds a Way. Leaving it vague is probably better than trying to justify it because, well, you're not as smart as either Odyssial or Kejack.
 
This is where ivory having ambition would be handy.

Even if the brainwashing wins out, she'd find a way to do it while furthering our agenda.
 
Cavalier said:
Just handwave it with "well, hahahah, that's what 10 dots in Intelligence is for." The Bronze Faction acted perfectly reasonably and as thoroughly as they possibly could, but it just didn't work because Odyssial Always Finds a Way. Leaving it vague is probably better than trying to justify it because, well, you're not as smart as either Odyssial or Kejack.
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It doesn't have anything to do with the sword, it's just the consequence of a much earlier decision.
 
Rihaku said:
Unless the Bronze Faction is completely incompetent then things in this update can't go as smoothly as I wanted. Hm.

Well, you'll see come the update.
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Eh, I can see it working out if Ody was stealthy about it.

The memories being set to trigger upon sight of his original Anima (which is why he had it reset to its base form) + some sort of secret keeping charm (Fairest's work?).

Also, some of the key Elders died right?
 
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So Ulyssian is Odyssial and Ivory is Pearl in both exaltation and Soul and we know the Fairest is alive and Lea is still a major player.

How capable would Ivory be of contacting Lea. Since with all 3 of them, the gang is pretty much back together.
 
Ridiculously Average Guy said:
Eh, I can see it working out if Ody was stealthy about it.

The memories being set to trigger upon sight of his original Anima (which is why he had it reset to its base form) + some sort of secret keeping charm (Fairest's work?).

Also, some of the key Elder's died right?
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They died in the Wracking, which occurs hundreds of years after Ivory is born, and thousands of years after the first Sidereal child that looks exactly like Sephulcral Pearl is born. Also, this was somewhat unintentional, Odyssial had a hard enough time reincarnating himself. He didn't have time to make plans for others, it just happened.

Hm. Unrelatedly, the consensus was strong, but I don't know if it was overwhelming enough to give Ivory Ambition over the objections of a considerable minority with fairly developed arguments. Which is good, because if she does have Ambition that actually makes this scenario a lot harder, given that, since Creation is in an emergency state, Odyssial's interests will be advanced more by her effectiveness than her happiness.
 
I don't care anymore. I saw a chance to actually let Odyssial live up to the hype by arranging to have Pearl's resurrection aid him or even to facilitate her resurrection; if you're not going to go with that then do whatever makes the most sense.
 
Uh, I said near the very outset that the option would require overwhelming consensus. You got strong support, but there was considerable opposition as well, which meant it would undermine the prior intentions of existing votes if it had won. If it had achieved that very high bar, Ivory would have Ambition regardless, and I'd give you guys an XP discount or something to balance out the unintended disadvantages.
 
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