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Echoes of Creation (30k/Exalted)
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[X] Stunt Buy Bestowal Of Accursed Fortune and grant Lorgar Background dots in "True Faith". (Lorgar Unlocks: Miracles but this will start Lorgar on Religion.)
God damn Erebus that face stealing shitter I should have guessed. I think the overestimation inherent in calling them Divinity or demons is actually considerably more detrimental than to have just catastrophize them being really powerful interdimensional Xenos that are out to enslave you for eternity by trapping you in interdimensional Pockets or enslaving you forcing you to do Deeds like murder your world and so they can trap and enslave everyone on the planet in said interdimensional pocket.
I agree with the overestimation and underestimation point but I think you really shouldn't lean into Superstition in any way because narrative and words matter. How can a man fight a god, the devil made me do it, I could not resist their magics by saying the xenos have really intense powers or something along that line he would be doing his duty better I fully agree with that but I do not think him wrong to deny them the title of Supernatural or divinity.
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[X] Stunt Buy Bestowal Of Accursed Fortune and grant Lorgar Background dots in "True Faith". (Lorgar Unlocks: Miracles but this will start Lorgar on Religion.)
The wayni think of it is if a God relys on worship to exist is it a God? Chaos are more like parasites then God's. Chaos is the equivalent of an AI turning against its creator and trying to enslave them.
By Exalted definition yes, then again by Exalted history Gods are servitor creations turning on their creators the Primordials so the shoe fits either way.
What the gods in exalted don't need worship to exist or do anything the Unconquered Sun will shine until he is eventually conquered in that humanity and pretty much every Mortal species in creation could die tomorrow and his light would still Shine On if the Mortal species of the galaxy die that's it for Chaos.
I think you have the Celestial Incarna and the Major Direction Gods or the like in mind, Minor to middling Terestrial gods definitely need worship to not become first destitute then destroyed.
Also all Terrestrial Gods need Creation even if not necessarily humanity and the UC would probably go insane if the Games of Divinity turned off since he is hooked in them and that needs Creation.
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Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
I do not think this is the case? I mean each blade of grass has a least god and I do not see each and every one of them being worshipped.
What do you mean the gods in exalted get weaker but they are actually Immortal until they are killed by something that makes them not deities or can kill Immortal entities like say the exalted. The Paths of Heaven are lined with the homeless destitute powerless gods of Concepts long since eroded out of existence by the usurpation and the great Contagion. Only least Gods I think die in totality and even that is more of a recycling of a very simple entity rather than actual death the least God of a blade of grass just to becomes the least God of a similar blade of grass that pops up in the same spot.
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Immaculate Monks do the kind of general rituals to Creation/Gaia that trickles down to them or in the threshold their bosses share with them in exchange for service
[X] Stunt Buy Bestowal Of Accursed Fortune and grant Lorgar Background dots in "True Faith". (Lorgar Unlocks: Miracles but this will start Lorgar on Religion.)
[X] Stunt Buy Bestowal Of Accursed Fortune and grant Lorgar Background dots in "True Faith". (Lorgar Unlocks: Miracles but this will start Lorgar on Religion.)
I wonder if we can use Bestowal of Accursed Fortune to get people to wish for something represented by dots in the Savant background to innately understand archeotech, or for actual items of archeotech represented by dots in the Artifact background.
Gods in exalted explicitly do not need worship to do heir job, IE make physics work. They do need worship to do thing like make a field more fertile, but it not something they actually need to exist.
Yzarc
The Spark of Madness
Mind quoting the background or listing the Book? I heard of the Savant background but do not recall, and the ability to understand lost tech is something people will make.
NVM: Found it . Dreams book (Lords of Creation)
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Also, Manual of Exalted Power: Alchemicals and Infernals. Extra dice on Lore roles for Science and Magic and extra virtual dots in Lore, Occult and Craft to meet the minimums to operate, maintain, or repair magitech equal to the background.
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The Froggy Ninja
The Blade Will Never Die
To be fair, in that specific case not only were the Eldar vastly diminished as a species, both in terms of lost lore and population, and weren't all working together on it, the themes of Ynnead dictated that she be born only after the entire species went extinct. So the biggest hurdle was fucking with destiny so she could show up before they all died.
No? The Edict of Asuryan happened I believe in M15 and I know the Twilight Cults only started showing up in M18 and only hit the mainstream in M20. So it took like 5-7 millenia for the Dominion to make Slaanesh.
Putting aside the fact that killing the Emperor would be very hard, it's important to note that most of the fascist shit happened after he was taken out of commission. The purpose of the Great Crusade was to reunite human remnants and protect them from shit like the Rangdan, Beast Orks and Chaos. He didn't really care about Xenos and was planning to return humanity to self governance once they were capable of defending themselves again.
Don't get me wrong, the Emperor is severely fucked up, but he's a kind of fucked up that we could potentially work with, especially since going to war with him distracts us from the threats we can't work with.
We don't actually know how universal that is. The Chaos Gods and their subsidiary Daemons are the most common species of warp entity in the modern era, but it's possible that other kinds of warp natives would be more sapient.
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I can't find any date mentioning Asuryan edict so I kind of have to go with that but that's still an Empire that spans a galaxy with insanely psychically active populations literally in the hundreds of billions doing everything they can to bring about the creation of a new God and it still took the better part of 10 millennia. Which I think really says enough about the lack of speed doesn't it.
Nah every quest works with him. I don't want to retread the same sthings.
I want him minium to be our enemy.
So you want to die is what you're saying. By the time he shows up he will be in interstellar Warlord and we will if we expedite and really push our progress maybe have taken this entire planet this barely passed Neolithic planet. It doesn't matter how personally powerful an exalted is if they can just be bombarded to death from space.
Have heard of being covert. Like it wouldn't be fun if it was easy.