East Africa 1930: An ORBAT Quest
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[X] Plan: Ready to Re-equip the Reewin Rural Riflemen
This looks good to me. It covers the major stuff I wanted to cover.
This looks good to me. It covers the major stuff I wanted to cover.
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I'm mostly on board with the runaway plan but would personally replace the Borana project with the Beasts of Burden doctrine shift. I think that the points we have available now mean that out of our big goals we set in the last vote (arms production/reform, animals stuff, the info office, and the carabinieri), at least one needs to be distinctly back-burnered, and the horses are the best candidate to delay until we can afford to focus on them more.
We can't put them off forever because of the breeding timelines, but Beasts of Burden is a logistical improvement we can put to work right now and then not need to worry about it, while less than a year after acquiring the Borana horses we'll have herds we're stuck feeding and need to do something with. That seems to me like something we should be aiming to do during year two, leaving this year to focus on guns and the carabinieri (along with some all-purpose improvements like the rail expansion).
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-[X] A New Office For A New Industry
-[X] Doctrine Shift: Beasts of Burden
-[X] Rail Expansion: Kismayo to Turkana
-[X] Establish the Analytical Research Team
-[X] Establish the Carabinieri Oversight Office
We can't put them off forever because of the breeding timelines, but Beasts of Burden is a logistical improvement we can put to work right now and then not need to worry about it, while less than a year after acquiring the Borana horses we'll have herds we're stuck feeding and need to do something with. That seems to me like something we should be aiming to do during year two, leaving this year to focus on guns and the carabinieri (along with some all-purpose improvements like the rail expansion).
[X] Plan: Alternate Equestrian Timelines
-[X] A New Office For A New Industry
-[X] Doctrine Shift: Beasts of Burden
-[X] Rail Expansion: Kismayo to Turkana
-[X] Establish the Analytical Research Team
-[X] Establish the Carabinieri Oversight Office
[X] Plan: Alternate Equestrian Timelines
-[X] A New Office For A New Industry
-[X] Doctrine Shift: Beasts of Burden
-[X] Rail Expansion: Kismayo to Turkana
-[X] Establish the Analytical Research Team
-[X] Establish the Carabinieri Oversight Office
Sure, why not.
-[X] A New Office For A New Industry
-[X] Doctrine Shift: Beasts of Burden
-[X] Rail Expansion: Kismayo to Turkana
-[X] Establish the Analytical Research Team
-[X] Establish the Carabinieri Oversight Office
Sure, why not.
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[X] Plan: Alternate Equestrian Timelines
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Fine with either of the two big plans tho.
Fine with either of the two big plans tho.
[X] Plan: Ready to Re-equip the Reewin Rural Riflemen
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[X] Plan: Alternate Equestrian Timelines
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[X] Plan: Alternate Equestrian Timelines
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[X] Plan: Alternate Equestrian Timelines
Hakazin
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This is a correct assessment.
Knew we forgot to clarify something. The answer depends on a case-by-case basis, but usually they will take at least a turn to set up.
On that note, I've added the activation time to the votes in question, and will repeat them here to make sure folks see it. A New Office For A New Industry, Establish a Veterinary Oversight Office, and Establish the Carabinieri Oversight Office will take three months before their benefits activate, and the benefits of Rail Expansion? No! will apply immediately if chosen.
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[X] Plan: Ready to Re-equip the Reewin Rural Riflemen
Are write in's allowed because there are two notable option's I would likely to explore first could we use rural respected figures and incorporate them into the state to fill in for gaps in the Carabinieri goals regarding imposing justice(its not underheard of for these people to wield influence in rural life the "legalize it" might work for cutting costs) if we narrow their specialization and can we have the option to subsidize pastoralism as an industry. It would be useful I think if we became a local exporter within the region(trying something similar with our arms industry might be a decent idea too) and we can then conscript our industry into wartime use. I suspect how much we want to go into horses depends on how vulnerable we are to the sub-Saharan Africans diseases that make such thins difficult, some geography nerd might need to check up on this.
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You can certainly write in your idea for livestock subsidies, and your idea for local law enforcement is a valid write-in under a vote for Reform is Reform, in the Carabinieri section.
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This quest is really well designed. I noticed we have a lot of Options where our industries and resources are either sovereign raised or foreign bought. The former has benefits less immediate but the latter makes us less economically independent..
This quest is really well designed. I noticed we have a lot of Options where our industries and resources are either sovereign raised or foreign bought. The former has benefits less immediate but the latter makes us less economically independent..
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Turn 1 News, Rumours, & Events: January - March 1930
Eukie
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Internal Tension:
Government Tension: 5
Military Tension: 25
Ongoing Projects:
[X] Rail Expansion: Kismayo to Turkana - Improve the train line from Kismayo to the mining regions and extend it to Lake Turkana. The Japanese will likely invest in this project. (3 Months Remain) ☑◻
[X] Establish the Ordnance Office - Developing an arms industry from scratch will take time and effort. An Ordnance Office will allow us to delegate some of that work to specialists.. (Constant Investment.)
[X] Establish the Analytical Research Team - This group will be tasked with drafting reports on external threats, internal dynamic shifts, and other non-standard areas of intelligence. (9 Months Remain) ☑◻◻◻
[X] Establish the Carabinieri Oversight Office - No one really keeps an eye on the paramilitary police force that keeps watch over the nation. If the force is to be reformed and re-established in a new role, then oversight is needed at the very least. (Constant Investment.)
January 1930
International Headlines:
- Rome: Crown Prince Umberto marries Marie José of Belgium
- Lahore: The Indian National Congress votes in favour of a resolution condemning the assassination attempt on the Viceroy.
- Basra: The leaders of the Ikhwan have surrendered to Ibn Saud and British forces. This comes after several years of open rebellion against the colonial British and the collaborationist Ibn Saud.
- Antarctica: The British Australian New Zealand Antarctic Research Expedition explores new territory on the icy continent.
- Berlin: Clashes and assassinations continue between communists and nationalist socialists.
- Watsonville: A fight outside a dance club escalates to a four-day riot between Filipino and white citizens.
- London: The Five Power Naval Disarmament Conference opens in London.
- Mexico City: The Mexican government announces cessation of diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union.
- Madrid: Miguel Primo de Rivera resigns as Prime Minister of Spain.
- Hamburg: Police and communists exchange gunfire at march agitating for general strike. Seventy-six communists are arrested for plotting to stage a riot.
Local Rumours:
- Ethiopia: Ras Gugsa Welle, husband of Empress Zewditu of Ethiopia, stands in open revolt against Ras Tafari, nominated heir to the throne. Rumours suggest he has gathered 30,000 regulars and levies in north-eastern Ethiopia and will be joined by three other members of the nobility. There may be open conflict in the north before the summer comes.
February 1930
International Headlines:
- Mexico City: Pascual Ortiz Rubio assumes presidency of Mexico. A gunman fires six shots at his car, wounding the president in the jaw.
- Rome: Pope Pius XI condemns persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union.
- Paris: A riot breaks out at the Vincennes race track.
- Bogota: Enrique Olaya Herrera is elected president of Columbia.
- Yen Bai: Mutinying forces of the French colonial forces in French Indochina defeated.
- Nanking: An international committee has agreed to bring international lawyers and courts under the jurisdiction of the Chinese government.
- Paris: Camille Chautemps is appointed Prime Minister of France. His government dissolves within a week after a failed attempt to form a left-wing coalition with the Socialist Party.
- Tokyo: The Constitutional Democratic Party attains a majority in the Japanese parliament, ending the previous deadlock. The promised reduction in internal spending and switching to a fixed exchange rate will likely benefit Reewiin in the short and long term.
- Santo Domingo: Rebel forces led by General Rafael Trujillo enter Santo Domingo. The president of the Dominican Republic, Horacio Vásquez, flees.
- Madrid: Spanish government restores censorship of the press and public meetings.
Local Rumours:
- Ethiopia: Mulugeta Yeggazu, Minister of Defence in Ethiopia, has apparently managed to raise a mere 16,000 men from the provincial levies. Worse still, it seems even fewer have actually arrived at their muster point in Dessie. The government of Ras Tafari is weak. With weakness, there is vulnerability.
March 1930
Project Development:
Beast of Burden: A thousand head of cattle have been bought, conscripted, and shipped into Reewiin to serve as the basis for the new logistics corps. They cannot replace the porters entirely, but where the Army used to utilise almost double their number in men, now they use a little under a fifth in oxen. This will not be cheap to maintain, but it will be vital in a potential war.
However, some in the military high command are concerned the cattle will not be able to keep up with troops on the march, and it will still be necessary to hire large amounts of porters in times of war.
Rail Expansion: The first expansions of the line between Kismayo and the mines of Marsabit have been laid, and trains going up the line are now carrying building materials instead of only ballast.
The Japanese have promised significant investment as long as the new line remains in the old 3'6'' (1067mm) gauge and that engines be bought from Japan. All the better to maintain a steady flow of raw materials, their ambassadors say. In return, they will provide enough money to run the track all the way to Lake Turkana and the Western border.
Bureaucratic Growth: The Defence Council has requisitioned three new offices, two new secretarial pools, and another records room to establish the Ordnance Office, the Carabinieri Office, and the Analytical Research Team. Members of the government have voiced concerns that we're spreading our footprint without actually achieving anything.
International News
- Rio de Janeiro: Júlio Prestes is elected president of Brazil.
- Paris: André Tardieu is appointed prime minister of France.
- Santo Domingo: Horacio Vásquez resigns from the presidency of the Dominican Republic. Acting president Rafael Estrella Ureña replaces him.
- Berlin: Following experimental surgery by Erwin Gohrbandt, a Danish painter has become a woman.
- Ebenhausen: Grand Admiral Alfred von Tirpitz dies at age 80.
- Lahore: Followers of former Indian National Congress president Mohandas Gandhi announce a resolution saying they will achieve independence or go to jail.
- Ahmedabad: Former Indian National Congress president Mohandas Gandhi leads followers in a march protesting British salt taxes.
- Washington: Former US president William Howard Taft dies aged 72. President Herbert Hoover announces a thirty-day mourning period.
- Flagstaff: Astronomer Clyde Tombaugh of the University of Kansas announces discovery of Planet X.
- Manilla: Nine US sailors are injured in riots involving local Filipinos.
- Warsaw: President Ignacy Mościcki of Poland refuses resignation of cabinet.
- Philadelphia: Notorious American gangster Alphonse Capone is released from prison after serving ten months for illegal possession of a firearm.
- Rome: Pope Pius XI announces campaign against the Soviet Union's persecution of Christians before a congregation at the St. Peter's basilica.
- Berlin: German chancellor Hermann Müller resigns. Paul von Hindenburg appoints Heinrich Brüning as new chancellor.
- Constantinople: Turkish government announces that Constantinople should be called Istanbul in official communications.
- Tehran: Persia adopts the gold standard.
- Addis Ababa: Succession crisis in Ethiopia! Ras Tafari sends troops to suppress rebellion in the north. The Empress appeals to her husband to stand down.
Events:
Battle in the North: Ras Mulugeta Yeggazu is on the march! With him go the Aircraft of the ETAF! Gugsa Welle musters his forces in Debre Tabor! Battle will be joined before the month is out!
Roll 1d100 to determine the course of the Battle of Anchem (31st March)
Northern Expansion: A debate rages in the President's Office, the House, and military high command. Ethiopia's current crisis has left it weak and vulnerable, and the Army considers this a perfect time to strike. The Northern border is porous and lightly guarded–even the Carabinieri could take control, goes the argument.
The representatives, wary of an extended war, are fighting amongst themselves over how much of Ethiopia can be taken in a swift strike. The Ethiopian Chitet may have only raised ten thousand levied soldiers, but that's still more troops than the Army maintains.
The President has questioned publically if this is the time to liberate the oppressed Oromo in Southern Ethiopia, and has sent a simple query to the Offices of the Defence Council:
"Does the Defence Council consider the Army and the Carabinieri ready to support war and occupation if the government chooses that option?"
[ ] Our military is more than ready to engage and defeat the Ethiopian Army
[ ] Our military is ready to seize parts of Southern Ethiopia and hold it against counterattack
[ ] Our military is not ready for the kinds of operations the Army or government has in mind.
Government Tension: 5
Military Tension: 25
Ongoing Projects:
[X] Rail Expansion: Kismayo to Turkana - Improve the train line from Kismayo to the mining regions and extend it to Lake Turkana. The Japanese will likely invest in this project. (3 Months Remain) ☑◻
[X] Establish the Ordnance Office - Developing an arms industry from scratch will take time and effort. An Ordnance Office will allow us to delegate some of that work to specialists.. (Constant Investment.)
[X] Establish the Analytical Research Team - This group will be tasked with drafting reports on external threats, internal dynamic shifts, and other non-standard areas of intelligence. (9 Months Remain) ☑◻◻◻
[X] Establish the Carabinieri Oversight Office - No one really keeps an eye on the paramilitary police force that keeps watch over the nation. If the force is to be reformed and re-established in a new role, then oversight is needed at the very least. (Constant Investment.)
January 1930
International Headlines:
- Rome: Crown Prince Umberto marries Marie José of Belgium
- Lahore: The Indian National Congress votes in favour of a resolution condemning the assassination attempt on the Viceroy.
- Basra: The leaders of the Ikhwan have surrendered to Ibn Saud and British forces. This comes after several years of open rebellion against the colonial British and the collaborationist Ibn Saud.
- Antarctica: The British Australian New Zealand Antarctic Research Expedition explores new territory on the icy continent.
- Berlin: Clashes and assassinations continue between communists and nationalist socialists.
- Watsonville: A fight outside a dance club escalates to a four-day riot between Filipino and white citizens.
- London: The Five Power Naval Disarmament Conference opens in London.
- Mexico City: The Mexican government announces cessation of diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union.
- Madrid: Miguel Primo de Rivera resigns as Prime Minister of Spain.
- Hamburg: Police and communists exchange gunfire at march agitating for general strike. Seventy-six communists are arrested for plotting to stage a riot.
Local Rumours:
- Ethiopia: Ras Gugsa Welle, husband of Empress Zewditu of Ethiopia, stands in open revolt against Ras Tafari, nominated heir to the throne. Rumours suggest he has gathered 30,000 regulars and levies in north-eastern Ethiopia and will be joined by three other members of the nobility. There may be open conflict in the north before the summer comes.
February 1930
International Headlines:
- Mexico City: Pascual Ortiz Rubio assumes presidency of Mexico. A gunman fires six shots at his car, wounding the president in the jaw.
- Rome: Pope Pius XI condemns persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union.
- Paris: A riot breaks out at the Vincennes race track.
- Bogota: Enrique Olaya Herrera is elected president of Columbia.
- Yen Bai: Mutinying forces of the French colonial forces in French Indochina defeated.
- Nanking: An international committee has agreed to bring international lawyers and courts under the jurisdiction of the Chinese government.
- Paris: Camille Chautemps is appointed Prime Minister of France. His government dissolves within a week after a failed attempt to form a left-wing coalition with the Socialist Party.
- Tokyo: The Constitutional Democratic Party attains a majority in the Japanese parliament, ending the previous deadlock. The promised reduction in internal spending and switching to a fixed exchange rate will likely benefit Reewiin in the short and long term.
- Santo Domingo: Rebel forces led by General Rafael Trujillo enter Santo Domingo. The president of the Dominican Republic, Horacio Vásquez, flees.
- Madrid: Spanish government restores censorship of the press and public meetings.
Local Rumours:
- Ethiopia: Mulugeta Yeggazu, Minister of Defence in Ethiopia, has apparently managed to raise a mere 16,000 men from the provincial levies. Worse still, it seems even fewer have actually arrived at their muster point in Dessie. The government of Ras Tafari is weak. With weakness, there is vulnerability.
March 1930
Project Development:
Beast of Burden: A thousand head of cattle have been bought, conscripted, and shipped into Reewiin to serve as the basis for the new logistics corps. They cannot replace the porters entirely, but where the Army used to utilise almost double their number in men, now they use a little under a fifth in oxen. This will not be cheap to maintain, but it will be vital in a potential war.
However, some in the military high command are concerned the cattle will not be able to keep up with troops on the march, and it will still be necessary to hire large amounts of porters in times of war.
Rail Expansion: The first expansions of the line between Kismayo and the mines of Marsabit have been laid, and trains going up the line are now carrying building materials instead of only ballast.
The Japanese have promised significant investment as long as the new line remains in the old 3'6'' (1067mm) gauge and that engines be bought from Japan. All the better to maintain a steady flow of raw materials, their ambassadors say. In return, they will provide enough money to run the track all the way to Lake Turkana and the Western border.
Bureaucratic Growth: The Defence Council has requisitioned three new offices, two new secretarial pools, and another records room to establish the Ordnance Office, the Carabinieri Office, and the Analytical Research Team. Members of the government have voiced concerns that we're spreading our footprint without actually achieving anything.
International News
- Rio de Janeiro: Júlio Prestes is elected president of Brazil.
- Paris: André Tardieu is appointed prime minister of France.
- Santo Domingo: Horacio Vásquez resigns from the presidency of the Dominican Republic. Acting president Rafael Estrella Ureña replaces him.
- Berlin: Following experimental surgery by Erwin Gohrbandt, a Danish painter has become a woman.
- Ebenhausen: Grand Admiral Alfred von Tirpitz dies at age 80.
- Lahore: Followers of former Indian National Congress president Mohandas Gandhi announce a resolution saying they will achieve independence or go to jail.
- Ahmedabad: Former Indian National Congress president Mohandas Gandhi leads followers in a march protesting British salt taxes.
- Washington: Former US president William Howard Taft dies aged 72. President Herbert Hoover announces a thirty-day mourning period.
- Flagstaff: Astronomer Clyde Tombaugh of the University of Kansas announces discovery of Planet X.
- Manilla: Nine US sailors are injured in riots involving local Filipinos.
- Warsaw: President Ignacy Mościcki of Poland refuses resignation of cabinet.
- Philadelphia: Notorious American gangster Alphonse Capone is released from prison after serving ten months for illegal possession of a firearm.
- Rome: Pope Pius XI announces campaign against the Soviet Union's persecution of Christians before a congregation at the St. Peter's basilica.
- Berlin: German chancellor Hermann Müller resigns. Paul von Hindenburg appoints Heinrich Brüning as new chancellor.
- Constantinople: Turkish government announces that Constantinople should be called Istanbul in official communications.
- Tehran: Persia adopts the gold standard.
- Addis Ababa: Succession crisis in Ethiopia! Ras Tafari sends troops to suppress rebellion in the north. The Empress appeals to her husband to stand down.
Events:
Battle in the North: Ras Mulugeta Yeggazu is on the march! With him go the Aircraft of the ETAF! Gugsa Welle musters his forces in Debre Tabor! Battle will be joined before the month is out!
Roll 1d100 to determine the course of the Battle of Anchem (31st March)
Northern Expansion: A debate rages in the President's Office, the House, and military high command. Ethiopia's current crisis has left it weak and vulnerable, and the Army considers this a perfect time to strike. The Northern border is porous and lightly guarded–even the Carabinieri could take control, goes the argument.
The representatives, wary of an extended war, are fighting amongst themselves over how much of Ethiopia can be taken in a swift strike. The Ethiopian Chitet may have only raised ten thousand levied soldiers, but that's still more troops than the Army maintains.
The President has questioned publically if this is the time to liberate the oppressed Oromo in Southern Ethiopia, and has sent a simple query to the Offices of the Defence Council:
"Does the Defence Council consider the Army and the Carabinieri ready to support war and occupation if the government chooses that option?"
[ ] Our military is more than ready to engage and defeat the Ethiopian Army
[ ] Our military is ready to seize parts of Southern Ethiopia and hold it against counterattack
[ ] Our military is not ready for the kinds of operations the Army or government has in mind.
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