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Disjunction (PMMM/Ignition)

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Sereg said:
The part where he wants us to witch out, so if we can't, we are worth less to him and therefore not worth the effort of making indestructible.
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no, he wants to learn about mana by studying us. the whole reason he offered the indestructible gem in the first place was so we could remain functional longer so he could get more mana knowledge from us.
Tor's analysis is much better, as it's logical and doesn't actually contradict anything we know.
 
Sereg said:
This doesn't even begin to be relevant. I'm suggesting wishing for the ability to naturilise anything we want on a conceptual level, separating naturalised from unnaturalised concepts as we desire and to have them interact exactly as we want them to. Ordinary people can't sit in burning furnaces or swim in liquid helium, but that's not what we're naturalising. We're naturalising our body temperature, so yes, we can do that. Ordinary people can't walk on neutron stars, but we're not naturalising that. We're naturlising our body structure and mobility, so yes, we can do that.
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Um..... What? I think you've gone so far off the reservation you can't even see the casino anymore. I think you're definition of naturalize and everyone else's may be just a taaaad different. I don't even think we're arguing about the same thing.
 
Paradox said:
Um..... What? I think you've gone so far off the reservation you can't even see the casino anymore. I think you're definition of naturalize and everyone else's may be just a taaaad different. I don't even think we're arguing about the same thing.
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I;'m asking to wish to have every advantage of a magical girl an every advantage of a normal girl simultaneously. (Upon loads of other abilities)
 
Paradox said:
Um..... What? I think you've gone so far off the reservation you can't even see the casino anymore. I think you're definition of naturalize and everyone else's may be just a taaaad different. I don't even think we're arguing about the same thing.
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Likely. I'm asking to wish to have every advantage of a magical girl an every advantage of a normal girl simultaneously. (Upon loads of other abilities, such as transferable absolute immunity to whatever we want)

EDIT:^Because I don't believe in half-assing
 
MoonlightSpark said:
Why can't you accept the fact that we are not going to wish and just be a green mage?
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Because that's stupid and not what I came here to play.
Sereg said:
Likely. I'm asking to wish to have every advantage of a magical girl an every advantage of a normal girl simultaneously. (Upon loads of other abilities, such as transferable absolute immunity to whatever we want)

EDIT:^Because I don't believe in half-assing
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The issue here is that there's absolutely no way we would actually get that, no matter how much you argue for it, because it's flat out ridiculous.
 
You can at least admit that that is something that would be worth wishing for, right?
 
Sereg said:
You can at least admit that that is something that would be worth wishing for, right?
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if we tried wishing word-for-word for what you just described, we'd experience in person what happens to those who wish outside their potential.

speaking of, @Paradox , how about adding in asking QB what happens if we wish outside our potential? he did mention is to us just now as something to avoid, so it's understandable to be curious as to what happens if we do...

[X] Paradox
 
Paradox said:
--[X] If he admits that Jade made a wish. "So if you don't understand the power that well how do you know that it wasn't the unnaturalness of the gook inside the gem caused her to start attacking people?
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because the symptoms of Grief are well known and recognizable.
-[x] Who and how many people did she kill? Why don't most people know about her?
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"My own local bodies, [list of the civvie identities of all the witches she killed], [number of witches+number of KyuBodies]"


[x] Paradox
 
... You know I wonder if our character could eventually pull a poison ivy and hit people with monstrous house size plants and trees.

Does Green mana allow for that to happen?

LostDeviljho said:
Because that's stupid and not what I came here to play.
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I think most of the players here came to play just a green mage honestly, because it was denied in the other quest as the wish was forced on us do to the majority wanting to be a dragon.
 
OverReactionGuy said:
... You know I wonder if our character could eventually pull a poison ivy and hit people with monstrous house size plants and trees.

Does Green mana allow for that to happen?
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Giant trees is a thing green can do in Magic, I imagine it's probably something we can do here.
OverReactionGuy said:
I think most of the players here came to play just a green mage honestly, because it was denied in the other quest as the wish was forced on us do to the majority wanting to be a dragon.
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If the majority of people wanted to be a dragon, wouldn't that have been the winning wish? o.o'
 
Xyzarach said:
speaking of, @Paradox , how about adding in asking QB what happens if we wish outside our potential? he did mention is to us just now as something to avoid, so it's understandable to be curious as to what happens if we do...
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Done. Any thoughts on my wording?

[X] Talk to Kyubey.
-[X] So tell more me about that other girl who awoke her power, what was her name?, anyway what was the reason that she never became a magical girl?
--[X] If he admits that Jade made a wish. "So if you don't understand the power that well how do you know that it wasn't the unnaturalness of the gook inside the gem caused her to start attacking people?

-[X] Who and how many people did she kill? Why don't most people know about her?
--[X] if he admits to her not killing anyone but Sorc/Witch/Kyu. "Why did you try to make it sound like she started killing humans?
-[X] Why wouldn't our soul gem be indestructible if we made a wish to not have grief?

-[X] You mentioned that wishing beyond my potential is dangerous. Will it kill me? If not then why?
--[X] if the answer is some version of "it will reduce your reserves to such a small amount that you will X." Are there anything other dangers that could result from wishing beyond my potential?
---[X] If the answer is some variation of "yes." What are they?



[X] Start eating your lunch. You wouldn't want to go the entire period without eating. It might be a bit rude to eat in front of them, but telepathy would prevent you from speaking with your mouth full.
[X] Accept Azura's offer to use her property for your experiment.

Anyone else have any other questions?
 
Sereg said:
You seriously think we'd be in a worse position having that powerset than having never made the wish?
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Despite the fact that I want to make a wish, the people opposed do have some legitimate concerns, and that wish would address... none of them, really.
And that's on top of being essentially impossible the way you worded it.
 
Sereg said:
You can at least admit that that is something that would be worth wishing for, right?
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Sereg, you are, in essence, trying to get away with a Sabrina-tier conceptual wish. By definition, those things are pretty broken.

You are not going to get it in this quest no matter how hard you argue.

Now, can we please move on?
 
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