Marvel does it better because the big threat in the individual movies rarely is out in the open until the climax, and is usually dealt with within an hour or less. The only one that was really questionable was Iron Man 3 and AIM, where at least Captain America should have gotten involved.
I think not. The way I saw it, the CPR was weirdly misportrayed, but in a second it became clear that Harley tricked Batman into doing it, and found it funny. And he didn't. If anything, it was Batman who has been molested. Basically what Jawa said:
I meant where both parties are high powered such as here when literally flaming pillarman fought against a 10 foot fire raging satan thing.Comic books being bolted, welded, and nut-stapled to the status quo has been an enduring criticism of the medium for years. "Batman/Superman are at this point basically responsible for the skull shattering number of people Joker's killed" is a common complaint. Though the Flash question is kinda funny 'cause I'm pretty sure there's at least some Justice League stuff where he does. And Captain America not dealing with the Kingpin is usually because, at his core, the Kingpin's just a street level dude and waaaay below the "Deathcarrier New World Order Supernazis" tier of threat that Cap usually fights.
Which is sorta hilarious because it's never even implied that Batman or Flash or who the fuck ever are off dealing with bigger shit. This is more excusable in the Marvel stuff because as far as the individual movies are largely concerned the other non-crossover ones don't really exist except for the teasers and shit at the end whereas in DC they stop the action so that everyone can oogle their other big names and be reminded that "hey, they're here too".
But comics are "just like that" I guess.
Does it though? Does it really?
How much of the fight against the fucking ten foot tall flaming metal Mesoamerican demigod was just him shoving the Suicide Squad around like a playground bully despite, y'know, being able to rip helicopters out of the sky and hatefuck subway trains to death? 'Cause it was a good chunk.
Because if you said 6 hours you'd have pendants complaining that it was too fast a turnaround to get the Squad into the city.
Thats solved by the basis of the goddamn government. They can put a squad of men to anywhere in the world in 24 hours, they can move a small group across the continental US in less than a day.
I didn't actually pay for the movie. T-Mobile gave out tickets for free on Tuesday (for Friday showings) I'm glad I didn't pay.
You went and saw it, you paid plenty.
Wait, are you seriously saying that you nominate this as the 'no more DC, ever' instead of either Dawn of Justice or Batman and Robin?
Yes. I had basically written off the next few DC films affiliated with Justice League after the utter travesty that was Dawn of Justice, but I had not entirely unreasonable hopes that with a film that was supposed to have a different tone they might have done better. If they had handled Suicide Squad well I could have convinced myself to take a pass on theatres for Wonder Woman and maybe whatever came immediately after that, and then go back to seeing them on the big screen after they had a chance to get their shit together. Now though I no longer believe they are capable of that and will not be paying to see any of their movies ever again.
I have to agree. I could chalk up Dawn of Justice to Zack Snyder being terrible, but Suicide Squad going down says dire things about the internal management in WB and DC.
I love how the straw that broke the camel's back is one of the best parts in the movie. Will Smith carries a lot of the film by being so damn smooth.
Will Smith makes it a Will Smith movie, not a Suicide Squad movie. "Oh I'm a mass murderer, but I never kill women or children and I love my baby girl. I'm not so bad! You are allowed to like me!"
"It is apparent from the newly released "Ultimate Edition" Blu-Ray of Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice that Snyder is constructing a large-scale morally serious epic that portrays modern man's ethical struggle, giving comic-book characters the spiritual breadth of classical characters. Ayer acknowledges this when the Squad, facing supernatural evil, gets gung-ho and promises, "We're gonna be a chapter in the Bible! Everybody will know what we do!" Snyder and Ayer pursue an interest in redemption and sacrifice using the comic-book and blockbuster genres that have replaced the universality of the Bible and classical texts. More is at stake in Suicide Squad than comic-book fun. "
The whole point of his character was how those traits didn't make him a good person. He wasn't a heroic person or even a good person and what positive traits he did have were in the end not enough to redeem him as a person.
