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Ok, this is a good point. Out of curiosity, any clue where I can find the info on the cannibal oni thing? That seems interesting.
Covered In Blood And Surrounded By Spirits (Hellsing CK2 Organization Quest)
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So, just so we are clear, if we roll a nat 1 we will NOT fail?
Also, can you confirm/deny my point about higher result = better rewards
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Correct. The higher the roll, the more the tsukumogami knows and the more powerful it becomes. And even a nat 1 will not fail, no. It will result in something disastrous like a nationwide teen fad becoming shrine vandalization, but your priests will be able to salvage the situation. It will make the next time even more difficult though. There's no penalty if you get a thirty or above after the bonus though. On the other hand, if you roll high enough you can get bonuses on the spirits as well. It's a toss up.
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So, you are saying that the "japanese vampire" variants I have seen across the internet and in comics are a recent invention due to western influence?
Be that as it may, vampires are sapient and their only mental change is the blood hunger, so I see no reason at all for vampires to not migrate to japan occasionally over the years due to lack of anyone actively stopping them from doing so.
So, we should either have the occasional western vampires hiding in japan, or the vampires could have picked up local influences and became their own unique thing.
... unless maybe the local monsters fight them for territory effectively? or maybe the kami? it would require investigating.
speaking of, aren't such items considered to be kami as well?
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Not much, when I read about it, it just said that humans who reveled too much in slaughter and consumed human flesh and blood is one way to become an oni, but everything is described as oni...
Japan was economically and geographically isolated for a long time from the western world, and any vampire that had problems with sunlight would need to be shipped in special.
Also Vampires are massively impure due to living on blood, so all the Purity sensors would go nuts.
Naw, there's a difference between an enshrined artifact and one that developed a spirit over time.
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Well, there are local kami as well. Kami are more like spirits than gods, with the kami that people worship being spirits of such power that they are effectively gods, such as Amateratsu, Sussanoo or Izanami. Nature kami are spirits so entwined with the land that people give tribute to them for the sak e of prosperity and the like. Tsukumogami are more like actual spirits, existing only to serve by haunting an object in a beneficial way in order to continue its function. For instance, the tsukumogami you have is serving in its original capacity as the "chains of friendship" in a rather literal manner. So they're more like a program compared to a real AI, if you want a metaphor to compare to an actual kami like a river spirit. For clarity, I don't call them kami though.
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@The LD Man thanks for explaining
Which is absolutely trivial for someone with human level intelligence. Also, our organization is brand new and set in contemporary times. they could have snuck in anywhere between the end of WW2 and 2015 and we would not know.
Which is absolutely trivial for someone with human level intelligence. Also, our organization is brand new and set in contemporary times. they could have snuck in anywhere between the end of WW2 and 2015 and we would not know.
You asserted that buddhist monks will be resistant to corruption (unlike shinto where even the purist can be corrupted) because the difference in their faith. Why are you not affording the same courtesy to european monsters? from the initial setup of this quest we know that the exact nature of demons varies by country, purity for example is not at all an issue for the south americans and their monsters. And vampires are weak to crosses rather than to all religion (and jews, vampires never ever ever touch jews)
What purity sensors? we don't posses any. Do you mean local kami? again I refer to your own post where you warned that they were horribly vulnerable to corruption. If vampires really are super corrupt then taking them on is a huge problem for the locals. Besides that, vampires are also very powerful beings with human intelligence and no glaring mental disorders so its even harder to take them out.
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Kami and related can fight Impure entities assuming they have enough power and their 'focus' (home, center of power etc) isn't damaged/corrupted. By that I mean something like the idea of demons being unable to enter church grounds unless they are desecrated first (violence, murder etc).
Also impurity isn't a plague or contagion, it's more a state of being.
Don't base Hellsing vampire capabilities on Alucard. He is an extremely old specimen that has been extensively modified by the Hellsing family to be even more deadly and hard to kill. Aside from a few special individuals, no chipped vampires have anything other than enhanced physical capabilities and the ability to make ghouls.
That's nothing compared to even some of the non-sentient Japanese monsters. Also the QM did mention that a lot of the sentient ones could take on the chipped easily.
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Well, yeah, but it's an infectous state of being. Something to keep inmind that i'm not sure I mentioned but hope this makes it clear. SHINTO HAS NO MORAL STANDARDS. Unlike many religions, there is no requirement of any upstandiong behavior. You do not become cursed by youkai for doing bad things, but for being exposed to bad things. Dead bodies and disease and rot all carry impurity within them, which can pass to you. It's like screwing jailbait and not getting arrested, but you now have AIDS.
Oh yeah, chipped get goddamn wrecked in Japan. If they tried to fight the youkai though. If a vamp stays away from the mountains or shores, his survivability skyrockets. Take the kotengu for example. Kotengu are loud and noisy, and you know they're coming from half a mile away. Your soldiers never let them get close, but a kotengu in melee range is actually fairly proficient with weapons. Therefore, a flock of kotengu could dismember a chipped vamp relatively easily, as a chipped vamp will likely turn it into a melee battle easily. I mean, the kotengu would only win through numbers, but casualties mean almost nothing to a kotengu group. And impurity does exist outside of japan, but it won't turn into youkai or curses without Japan to serve as a catalyst. It's slow acting though, I reckon even Alucard could stay for a week before starting to approach impure mutations.
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I am not, I am referring to the common vampires.
Alucard is a God with a capital G.
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So I assume most entities that have issues with said impurity can cleanse themselves (or be cleansed) given time and/or the correct location?
Assuming he doesn't piss off the various spooks and critters living in the cities anyway.
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So, seeing that they have a human's mental capacity, they likely figured it out and are sticking to safer areas.
And? unliving in the country is not the same as entering a shrine
According to veekie's prior post on the subject, it is that way for hindus, but its even worse than 40k corruption for shinto and kami
I was pointing out a contradiction in his arguments, not taking a position myself.
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Most people can before they become youkai. It's more difficult with kami, but it can still be done with the help of shinto priests and a concerted effort.
Well, death row to dismal is still skyrocketing.
But seriously, there are a lot of really low level youkai I just don't bother to mention that a vamp could deal with.
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Actually it would probably depend on the chip vampire. If the priest vampire at Chedder was a chip then you could probably use him as a minimum baseline. Other ones like Luke Valentine were dodging bullets without much problems and they only got better from there with the dandyman, Rip Van Winkle and other high level millennium operatives. Not all chips were equal, it depended on the how important you were too millennium and thus the quality of the work done to change you. Then you add in that chips were mostly all millennium operatives with actual military training, equipment and in the case of millennium foot soldiers and elites actual combat experience from being SS soldiers fighting on the frontlines of the Eastern front. Just because they don't all have highly impressive supernatural powers doesn't mean they couldn't murder their way through all but the biggest Alucard tier monsters in Japan. Millennium is no joke.
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Actually, I want to make this clear real quick since I forgot to adress it originally. Hindus, Christians, Shinto, Buddhists, it doesn't matter. Impurity infects everyone no matter what they are. Buddhists, when trained to like your warrior monks, can utilize their internal energy to expel impurity. But impurity does not care about what you believe in, it corrupts, final word. There are cleansing rituals to get rid of it, but no one is immune because of a state of mind. A hedonist and a monk are in equal danger of initial corruption on exposure. And it isn't even worse than 40K corruption. IT IS EQUAL FOR EVERYONE. Hell, kami are just as resistant as people. Impurity is an equal opportunity evil.
Yeah, i've been using Cheddar as a baseline when referring to the chipped.
Edit: Now that I think of it, Rip Van Winkle (My favorite Millinium character who didn't get near enough badass moments) could tear her way through oni. High speed musket ball through the eye? Dead. The problem is that most weapons don't have that kind of maneavurability, and so the instant an oni closes or covers their eyes he's bulletproof.
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And I guess the only real difference between him and 95% of the Last Battalion (the other 5% or special ones like Blitz, Winkle etc) is that they are better trained and a good deal more combat experience.
Except for that dumbass vampire couple that thought killing families would give them immortality. Those guys couldn't even make ghouls. If you get Alucard to disparage you with little to no effort, you've gotta be sucky.
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Weren't they just idiots who destroyed the corpses' heads? Could have sworn they were simply stupid rather than unable to do so.
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did you mean dispatch?
EDIT: I mean, I am sure alucard can dish out some sick burns... .... ... ok, now I am imagining alucard doing an epic rap battle
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Pretty much. Then again, there's a pretty big gap between a normal soldier and a civiliian. I view vampirism as more of a force multiplier. Hence, a soldier who knows how to run in a proper form can run faster and longer than a vampire of the same "level" who doesn't know the proper way to do so.
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A quick check of the ep does mention that the two ripped victims heads off. Though the visuals also show corpses with intact head so who knows.
Though come to think of it Alucard has fed from dead bodies in screen and none of them ever rose as ghouls. Maybe the vampire needs to drain a victim while they are alive for ghoul status to occur. That or the body can't be too badly damaged beforehand or something.
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well, victoria ceres had a huge massive hole in her when he turned her.
And he is from his own bloodline that is completely and utterly bullshit, so it is possible that he can choose whether to turn someone or not
Nah I meant disparage. Usually Alucard would just quip something or wait for his opponent to boast and then break them down (literally and figuratively).
Mr. Edward emptied a MAC-10 into him and he was done, no special powers to protect him. What a disgrace to Nosferatu.
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I love the voice of the voice actress playing seras victoria in that clip
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...As a natural cynic, I feel like I should mention that rate of fire with a single pistol is actually impossible. I mean, the trigger has to return to its position every time it's fired and then get pulled again, meaning there's a slight delay between rounds. No matter how fast Alucard is pulling the trigger, you literally cannot shoot that much. And that's ignoring the reload capacity. And with how the road curved like that, how is it possible for Seras to shoot straight through her back? Ah, anime logic.
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