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[Continuation] Schwarz-Rot-Gold: An Interwar Germany Quest

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[X]The Soldier: Fritz Muller has known little but war for most of his adult life. He was drafted at seventeen, and went to the front in 1914. Muller survived the war, survived the civil war that followed, and has put down his rifle in August 1920 to face a brave new world that he doesn't know how to navigate. His section is dead or crippled, his army has dissolved once more and the Kaiser that he took an oath to serve in 1914 is in Germany no longer. Fritz Muller has been naught but a soldier at war, and now he is one no longer.

[X]The Communist: Ernst Thalmann is a former soldier, a decorated one, who did a bunk from the Army in 1918 for the sake of the November Revolution and the Uprising that followed it. Thalmann's side of the war has lost...this time. The next time will be different, and that is why Ernst Thalmann has remained in Germany – to organize the workers and make sure that they are in a position to take what is theirs by right. Weimar is unstable, and presents opportunities.

[X]The Detective: Detective Arthur Biermann is part of the Berlin Special Branch, trained by a Belgian detective and now coming to terms with his new duties – the Special Branch was founded to deal with terrorism, insurrection and sensitive tasks. With the new peace in the republic, that task will hopefully be of less importance. Biermann wouldn't bet on it.

[X]The Heir is Dead: Yakov Sverdlov was Lenin's protege, and he survived his influenza infection in 1919 to direct the decossackization of Ukraine in 1919-1920. Upon his death, the succession in the Soviet Union has been thrown once more into doubt, as the moderate internationalist Sverdlov has left a vacancy that Lenin has hesitated to fill.

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A less stable USSR that borders our Germany is better for us than a belligerent Poland (that we armed, btw).
 
Tactitron said:
That can go another way, the French way. Where we lose the entirety of our little bit of remaining industry and have Entente troops everywhere while Foch cackles like a madman.
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They're not insane, that's never going to happen. If they could, they'd had done it in real life. And no, the invasion of the Ruhr doesn't count, since they already occupy it in this timeline. The French won't want to renegotiate terms when they're not feeling threatened. But if the only thing separating them from the Red Army is Germany, making our economy not implode will be in their best interests.
 
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Mr. Sandman said:
They're not insane, that's never going to happen. If they could, they'd had done it in real life. And no, the invasion of the Ruhr doesn't count, since they already occupy it in this timeline. The French won't want to renegotiate terms when they're not feeling threatened. But if the only thing separating them from the Red Army is Germany, making our economy not implode will be in their best interests.
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I suppose you're right. I had forgotten they took it earlier.
If we're going to be apprehensive about our neighbors, I wonder how Danzig will act.
 
[X] The Soldier: Fritz Muller has known little but war for most of his adult life. He was drafted at seventeen, and went to the front in 1914. Muller survived the war, survived the civil war that followed, and has put down his rifle in August 1920 to face a brave new world that he doesn't know how to navigate. His section is dead or crippled, his army has dissolved once more and the Kaiser that he took an oath to serve in 1914 is in Germany no longer. Fritz Muller has been naught but a soldier at war, and now he is one no longer.
[X]The Doctor: Professor Emil Fischer is a practicing surgeon and teacher at the Katharinenhospital in Stuttgart, and has seen the war close-up. Most of the severely wounded were dispatched to his wards for reconstruction, and before that he was a surgeon on the Western Front. Emil Fischer has seen death and conducted triage for five bloody years, and now comes peace. Dr. Fischer has doubts as to the durability of that.

[X]The Detective: Detective Arthur Biermann is part of the Berlin Special Branch, trained by a Belgian detective and now coming to terms with his new duties – the Special Branch was founded to deal with terrorism, insurrection and sensitive tasks. With the new peace in the republic, that task will hopefully be of less importance. Biermann wouldn't bet on it.

[X]The Heir is Dead: Yakov Sverdlov was Lenin's protege, and he survived his influenza infection in 1919 to direct the decossackization of Ukraine in 1919-1920. Upon his death, the succession in the Soviet Union has been thrown once more into doubt, as the moderate internationalist Sverdlov has left a vacancy that Lenin has hesitated to fill.

This sounds more interesting and gives us more options i think
 
[]The Communist: Ernst Thalmann is a former soldier, a decorated one, who did a bunk from the Army in 1918 for the sake of the November Revolution and the Uprising that followed it. Thalmann's side of the war has lost...this time. The next time will be different, and that is why Ernst Thalmann has remained in Germany – to organize the workers and make sure that they are in a position to take what is theirs by right. Weimar is unstable, and presents opportunities.

[X]The Heir is Dead: Yakov Sverdlov was Lenin's protege, and he survived his influenza infection in 1919 to direct the decossackization of Ukraine in 1919-1920. Upon his death, the succession in the Soviet Union has been thrown once more into doubt, as the moderate internationalist Sverdlov has left a vacancy that Lenin has hesitated to fill.
 
[X]The Soldier
[X]The Merchant of Death
[X]The Detective
[X]Eagle Unbowed

We Don't Swerve. Nor, it would seem, do the Polish. Miracle on the Vistula!
 
[X] The Soldier: Fritz Muller has known little but war for most of his adult life. He was drafted at seventeen, and went to the front in 1914. Muller survived the war, survived the civil war that followed, and has put down his rifle in August 1920 to face a brave new world that he doesn't know how to navigate. His section is dead or crippled, his army has dissolved once more and the Kaiser that he took an oath to serve in 1914 is in Germany no longer. Fritz Muller has been naught but a soldier at war, and now he is one no longer.
[X]The Merchant of Death: Gustav Krupp made a deal with the Devil in 1920, a deal to sell arms in conjunction with Sir Basil Zaharoff and Vickers Corporation. Sir Basil has sold arms the world over to anyone who can pay, and with Krupp's former war-plants now disassembled and being 'scrapped' in France by Zaharoff, German-pattern arms will be seen in every war from China to the Balkans. A brave new world, full of rich markets, now beckons.
[X]The Detective: Detective Arthur Biermann is part of the Berlin Special Branch, trained by a Belgian detective and now coming to terms with his new duties – the Special Branch was founded to deal with terrorism, insurrection and sensitive tasks. With the new peace in the republic, that task will hopefully be of less importance. Biermann wouldn't bet on it.

[X]The Heir is Dead: Yakov Sverdlov was Lenin's protege, and he survived his influenza infection in 1919 to direct the decossackization of Ukraine in 1919-1920. Upon his death, the succession in the Soviet Union has been thrown once more into doubt, as the moderate internationalist Sverdlov has left a vacancy that Lenin has hesitated to fill.

A scepter is haunting Europe...so it's time to cancel our demilitarization and debts kthxbye
Warboss Erbert will lead Germany to victory! There's nothing he can't krump, not even the largest nation in the world! WAAAGH!
 
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Ok, for some perspective for those who didn't accompany the last thread:

-When the war started, the first thing that happened was the French securing the Ruhr and us contacting the Entente so we'd defer payments.
-We had two enemies, the Triad, which were Kapp-Luttwitz-Ludendorff (Proto-fascists) east of the Oder-Neisse and the KPD in the west, holding most of Germany's industry. We decided to go on the defensive against the former and the offensive on the latter. Since the Triad had a strong starting position but a bad industrial base and the KPD would snowball if left unchecked. This strategy paid off in the end.
-We tried to avoid giving Ebert too many emergency powers, and give Hindenburg and his allies leeway to treat German citizes harshly. One of our biggest supporters were the Bavarian monarchs, especially Rupprecht, who is one of the major powers in our politics.
-Through Krupp, we've hatched a scheme where we worked with the Merchant of Death to sell off arms that would be destroyed otherwise, also opening options for rearmament.
-We managed to get Mackensen and Lettow-Vorbek on our side, the former of which performed admirably, the other not so much. We sent the latter off to help out the Poles. I guess we'll find out what happens to him earlier. They were instrumental in arranging defections from the Triad.
-At the latest stages of the war, the KPD arranged major uprisings in Berlin, Nurenberg and Rostok. The former was dissipated by Ebert personally speaking to disgruntled SPD members, while Nuremberg devolved into violence and Rostok ended up with the communists burning our food. Which backfired tremendously when we used it in propaganda against them. This was the last gasp of their campaign against us.
-Ludendorff managed a Kaisershlact 2: Electric Boogaloo in Sachsen, which exposed his flanks. The Triad vehemently denied peace overtures, which led to a coup lead by officers who saw the writing on the wall. They managed to escape with bullion to Sweden however. We'll have to try to recover it. In the East, we have a strong presence in Silesia, since the Czechs and Poles decided to build up forces in our borders there.
-Ebert faces a Parliamentary challenge in the final months of the war, due to a backlash from centralizing control over aid distribution from the Zentrum and others. He deftly avoided the challenge however, with promises of food, land (seized in the East) and peace.
-The main Spartacist leaders fled. And this we come to this.

I may have missed some things, but I think this covers the most important stuff.
 
Mr. Sandman said:
Ok, for some perspective for those who didn't accompany the last thread:

-When the war started, the first thing that happened was the French securing the Ruhr and us contacting the Entente so we'd defer payments.
-We had two enemies, the Triad, which were Kapp-Luttwitz-Ludendorff (Proto-fascists) east of the Oder-Neisse and the KPD in the west, holding most of Germany's industry. We decided to go on the defensive against the former and the offensive on the latter. Since the Triad had a strong starting position but a bad industrial base and the KPD would snowball if left unchecked. This strategy paid off in the end.
-We tried to avoid giving Ebert too many emergency powers, and give Hindenburg and his allies leeway to treat German citizes harshly. One of our biggest supporters were the Bavarian monarchs, especially Rupprecht, who is one of the major powers in our politics.
-Through Krupp, we've hatched a scheme where we worked with the Merchant of Death to sell off arms that would be destroyed otherwise, also opening options for rearmament.
-We managed to get Mackensen and Lettow-Vorbek on our side, the former of which performed admirably, the other not so much. We sent the latter off to help out the Poles. I guess we'll find out what happens to him earlier. They were instrumental in arranging defections from the Triad.
-At the latest stages of the war, the KPD arranged major uprisings in Berlin, Nurenberg and Rostok. The former was dissipated by Ebert personally speaking to disgruntled SPD members, while Nuremberg devolved into violence and Rostok ended up with the communists burning our food. Which backfired tremendously when we used it in propaganda against them. This was the last gasp of their campaign against us.
-Ludendorff managed a Kaisershlact 2: Electric Boogaloo in Sachsen, which exposed his flanks. The Triad vehemently denied peace overtures, which led to a coup lead by officers who saw the writing on the wall. They managed to escape with bullion to Sweden however. We'll have to try to recover it. In the East, we have a strong presence in Silesia, since the Czechs and Poles decided to build up forces in our borders there.
-Ebert faces a Parliamentary challenge in the final months of the war, due to a backlash from centralizing control over aid distribution from the Zentrum and others. He deftly avoided the challenge however, with promises of food, land (seized in the East) and peace.
-The main Spartacist leaders fled. And this we come to this.

I may have missed some things, but I think this covers the most important stuff.
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So the question that I've got since I haven't read the last thread all the way.

Did we get the Nazi's to fuck off and prevent them from taking power? (or are preventing them from taking power at this moment)
 
Valkyrien said:
So what's our main priority?
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Not having our economy implode, contacting the Swiss about stuff we deposited there doing the war and the Austrians about ore. If Poland falls, we should try to renegotiate Versailles and develop closer ties to Central Europe. We'll also have to deal with trials and how we'll punish traitors, internal dissent from leftover fanatics, restarting industry in the West and all kinds of fun stuff.
Magoose said:
So the question that I've got since I haven't read the last thread all the way.

Did we get the Nazi's to fuck off and prevent them from taking power? (or are preventing them from taking power at this moment)
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We had the option to capture Ludendorff and have him stand trial and potentially martyr himself, or to let the three stooges go. We chose the latter with the rationale that this would make the Volkisch look weak and stop him from martyring himself. We also have Hans Oster as head of internal intelligence and agents among the Easterners. I think that depending on how we handle the trials, we'll have a good handle of the situation. They've done plenty to discredit themselves.
 
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I'm a bit confused. One of the opening lines of this quest is that "it is not needed to read that thread to participate here." And yet people are applying what happened in the previous quest to plan future actions here. So which is it?
 
silentorphan said:
I'm a bit confused. One of the opening lines of this quest is that "it is not needed to read that thread to participate here." And yet people are applying what happened in the previous quest to plan future actions here. So which is it?
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It isn't needed, but it gives some valuable perspective. The opening thread gives a pretty good view of what happened, it is just that the other thread was 80k words I think, so some stuff inevitably wasn't there to not infodump. The options are pretty self-explanatory.
 
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silentorphan said:
I'm a bit confused. One of the opening lines of this quest is that "it is not needed to read that thread to participate here." And yet people are applying what happened in the previous quest to plan future actions here. So which is it?
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You don't need to, as I'm writing the updates from a blank-slate PoV. I do shill the earlier thread since I wrote it, but those who have plans already drawn up are doing so because they have something of a head start for now - that will fade with time. There's little I can do about that.
 
Mr. Sandman said:
Not having our economy implode, contacting the Swiss about stuff we deposited there doing the war and the Austrians about ore. If Poland falls, we should try to renegotiate Versailles and develop closer ties to Central Europe. We'll also have to deal with trials and how we'll punish traitors, internal dissent from leftover fanatics, restarting industry in the West and all kinds of fun stuff.
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Also keeping monarchists and others in check, dealing with possible food problems, and the unavoidable Bavarian chest-thumping.

I should mention for the uninitiated that Bavaria was crucial to the Republican victory and that they're going to also certainly exploit it.
 
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Tactitron said:
Also keeping monarchists and others in check, dealing with possible food porblems, and the unavoidable Bavarian chest-thumping.

I should mention for the uninitiated that Bavaria was crucial to the Republican victory and that they're going to also certainly exploit it.
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I think that with the East secured, food won't be as big as an issue, especially since businesses should have a much easier time importing stuff now. But yeah, we'll have to throw some bones to the Catholics.
 
Mr. Sandman said:
I think that with the East secured, food won't be as big as an issue, especially since businesses should have a much easier time importing stuff now.
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The problem is immediate and not the biggest issue, but it is still something to deal with initially.
Valkyrien said:
I can't remember did we ever encounter the Nazi Party?
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Luddendorf was as close as you can get to that so far.
We should probably through a bone to the Reichsbanner, all things considered.
 
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