- Location
- Australia
On the other hand, it borders the Indian Ocean.
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Command: Modern Air & Naval Operations: Let's Play and Expansions
On the other hand, it borders the Indian Ocean.
Whiskey Golf
Being of Editing & Technical Assistance
- Location
- Chained to my desk
Well, good luck, Comrade Admiral. I suspect you'll need it against the guai lo. 
- Location
- National Capital Region, USA
Lord High Admiral poaw: "Gentlemen! We have successfully landed our first amphibious units in Chad!"
High Command: "................HOW?!"
High Command: "................HOW?!"
Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
"We flew some marines out to our submarine operating in Lake Chad, and launched from there."
SteelRaptor
Angry again
The Sandman
So Zetta Slowpoke
- Location
- Wherever I am, which isn't where I'm not
Watch as this turns out to actually be a US carrier group that's just pretending to be Indian.
Or that every ship the Indians have has been modified to launch aircraft.
Or that every ship the Indians have has been modified to launch aircraft.
CV12Hornet
Riter.
- Location
- Tacoma, Washington
Nah, a Chinese sub is going to "accidentally" sink a Taiwanese frigate.
- Location
- FEMA Region V, USA
- Location
- Land of the Midday Sun
With a minigun.
- Location
- National Capital Region, USA
The Chinese carrier is going to sink a Taiwanese sub, with its CIWS Phalanx. Or ramming.
Coiler
ROURKE
Ugh, some new C:MANO scenario designers get in waaaay over their heads. I'm not talking about simple streamlining mistakes like using a ton of multi-unit airfields when single-unit ones would do the job, or thematic ones like technothriller-supervillain setups and ahistorical loadouts. Those are more forgivable than jumping right in with a huge WWIII-level clash with their first scenario.
Granted, this is my bias at work. Partly because of technical limitations and partly because I don't want a scenario to spiral out of control like poaw's unlamented original AirSea Battle one did, my scenarios have ranged from moderately small to very small. But when I see a scenario where the setup is a limited strike on North Korea and the actual scenario is a huge mess with 3,000 units and action up and down the entire peninsula, I still get annoyed.
Granted, this is my bias at work. Partly because of technical limitations and partly because I don't want a scenario to spiral out of control like poaw's unlamented original AirSea Battle one did, my scenarios have ranged from moderately small to very small. But when I see a scenario where the setup is a limited strike on North Korea and the actual scenario is a huge mess with 3,000 units and action up and down the entire peninsula, I still get annoyed.
poaw
The opposite of Doja Cat
吸血鬼之舞
My opening gambit failed. I exchanged 1:1 with the Indians on fighters, but my missiles missed their AEW helo. I failed to shut off their scouting and paid the price as they immediately launched an attack with fixed wing aircraft and sub-launched ASCMs.
This attack was terrifying for several reasons, but mainly my lack of familiarity of with Chinese weapon systems.
Each SAG is comprised of a handful of ships, but only one really capable (in the American sense) AAW shooter. The other ships are basically floating magazines for it's radars and datalinks. Therein lies the problem: "Alpha Whiskey" "the brain" "prime" "one-eyed man" (in the land of the blind he is King), only has so many illuminators and datalinks. I'm used to being able to loft missiles from a loooooong way off (50 - 70nmi) at the incoming while simultaneously punishing the launching aircraft if they have to come in close (if not outright preventing their launches). With the Chinese I'm committed to only 4 targets at once, so they can coast in and come much closer to saturating my defenses. That's the "Jason" part of the terror of their attack.
The other part is the Brahmos missile. It's fear with a rocket motor.
It's long-range (160nmi), fast (1450kts) and has an anti-radiation seeker head to backup it's active radar seeker. It takes the issues with time to engage/time to kill and compresses them (greatly). It's the Freddy Krueger that doesn't just haunt my dreams, it makes me afraid to dream begin with.
Alterations to the plan: I have to swing wide to the west to get that forward Indian SAG off my missile attack's bearing line. For reasons of detection and raid attrition. Also these attacks may represent the Indians shooting their load, so I may be able to move my own attack in real close to increase it's effectiveness (less time to engage with defensive missiles, my own shipboard ECM supporting the raid). Like the Israelis against the Egyptians.
My opening gambit failed. I exchanged 1:1 with the Indians on fighters, but my missiles missed their AEW helo. I failed to shut off their scouting and paid the price as they immediately launched an attack with fixed wing aircraft and sub-launched ASCMs.
This attack was terrifying for several reasons, but mainly my lack of familiarity of with Chinese weapon systems.
Each SAG is comprised of a handful of ships, but only one really capable (in the American sense) AAW shooter. The other ships are basically floating magazines for it's radars and datalinks. Therein lies the problem: "
The other part is the Brahmos missile. It's fear with a rocket motor.
It's long-range (160nmi), fast (1450kts) and has an anti-radiation seeker head to backup it's active radar seeker. It takes the issues with time to engage/time to kill and compresses them (greatly). It's the Freddy Krueger that doesn't just haunt my dreams, it makes me afraid to dream begin with.
Alterations to the plan: I have to swing wide to the west to get that forward Indian SAG off my missile attack's bearing line. For reasons of detection and raid attrition. Also these attacks may represent the Indians shooting their load, so I may be able to move my own attack in real close to increase it's effectiveness (less time to engage with defensive missiles, my own shipboard ECM supporting the raid). Like the Israelis against the Egyptians.
CV12Hornet
Riter.
- Location
- Tacoma, Washington
How many Brahmos have they expended?
poaw
The opposite of Doja Cat
This is how the attacks (notice the plural) turned out:
My forward group of shooters was sunk. Overwhelming saturation attacks claimed them once they ran out of missiles to shoot them down. I thought I had killed the last wave with four whole missiles to spare ("gee golly!"). Then another wave appeared 2 minutes later...
Lucky, I was able to spot it early enough to mitigate some of the damage. IE I was able to get their AShMs off their rails. All 32 of them. So I have at least 64 fewer defensive missiles to worry about, and even managed to claim a single FFG. The major victory was, when my missiles were detected the ENTIRE Indian fleet started illuminating, allowing me to pick out the CV in the middle of their formation. This means instead of having to pick between 3 probables with my newly reduced missile stockpiles I now can send all my combat power in a single decapitating strike. It also means I can focus my anti-radiation missiles on the most capable AAW platforms they have. For icing on the cake they've fired 112 AShMs so far, so their offensive magazines have to be running out....
52
The other 60 are an even-ish split between Sizzlers and Grizzlies.
My forward group of shooters was sunk. Overwhelming saturation attacks claimed them once they ran out of missiles to shoot them down. I thought I had killed the last wave with four whole missiles to spare ("gee golly!"). Then another wave appeared 2 minutes later...
Lucky, I was able to spot it early enough to mitigate some of the damage. IE I was able to get their AShMs off their rails. All 32 of them. So I have at least 64 fewer defensive missiles to worry about, and even managed to claim a single FFG. The major victory was, when my missiles were detected the ENTIRE Indian fleet started illuminating, allowing me to pick out the CV in the middle of their formation. This means instead of having to pick between 3 probables with my newly reduced missile stockpiles I now can send all my combat power in a single decapitating strike. It also means I can focus my anti-radiation missiles on the most capable AAW platforms they have. For icing on the cake they've fired 112 AShMs so far, so their offensive magazines have to be running out....
52
The other 60 are an even-ish split between Sizzlers and Grizzlies.
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Jonen C
F.M.D.G.
- Location
- Lincopense, Ostrogothia, Suecia
Technically, I guess, you could win the scenario by forcing the Indians to return to home port to restock munitions as long as they don't manage to sink the Chinese CV.