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You all do know that classes are split up by Year, right? Also, whoever said that all classes are taught for every Year, every day? That wouldn't work without magic bullshit, and as much as the wizards of the HP world demonstrate a lack of common sense, I don't think they're stupid enough to ignore the basic idea of proper scheduling.
 
Harry only notices teachers when they are teaching him or important in some way, like Hermione talking to Vector or whoever. There is no mention of teachers for electives untill it's relevant. So my hc is that there are other teachers but are dissmissed by Harry as unimportant. I know when I was his age other teachers were part of scenery.
 
You all do know that classes are split up by Year, right? Also, whoever said that all classes are taught for every Year, every day? That wouldn't work without magic bullshit, and as much as the wizards of the HP world demonstrate a lack of common sense, I don't think they're stupid enough to ignore the basic idea of proper scheduling.
The problem is that some classes are mandatory in every year (DADA, Potions, Charms, etc. The basic ones.), and those classes are still supposedly taught by the same professor for all the years. There's only one DADA professor, and so on. Moreover, they are certainly taught more than once every week, as there are places in the books where homework is assigned as due at a later day of the same week. Moreover, at least the first couple years would need to be taking every class every other day at minimum, because without electives there just aren't enough classes to keep them occupied otherwise. Classes for each year are also separated by house, with only two houses taking a given class together at one time, and some class periods are mentioned as being double-length.

That means that each professor for a core subject is teaching a bare minimum of 7(years)*2(class groups/year)*X, where X is the average number of class sessions per year level, every single week. Even the most conservative estimate of X -3 sessions for the first 2 years and 2 for every year after- leaves the professor with a whopping 30 class sessions to teach every week. Some of them being double periods. Plus grading all the homework from those classes. And they have to teach all those classes in 5 days, because Saturdays and Sundays are shown to be class-free.

Any teacher whom was told to handle such a workload on their own would be convicted of murder, shipped to an asylum, or both within a month. Or dead from exhaustion.
 
It's not entirely out of the question that the staff are silent on the subject of time-turners, the things according to book 3 are supposed to be a secret, even if they do choose to allow the occasional student (hermione that we know of as a single data point) to use them to take a conflicting class schedule. Really the easiest answer here is that the staff are intentionally keeping everyone in the dark, and the students they opt to allow access to time turners are (non-bindingly) sworn to secrecy on the subject.

Which, would probably appeal to the fanon Hermione's smugness...

Also, despite being the premiere school for the UK, it's entirely possible post fifth year owls that many students opt to drop having obtained wand rights and not desiring further education, I'm guessing here that an OWL is equivalent to a u.s. high school diploma, or GED. Which would make the newt an associate's from a college, with further study under the older apprenticeship model a mastery/bachelorship.

And really, the way the schedules are constructed it's still entirely possible that the real issue here is that we (and the students) just don't have access to the hogwarts scheduling database to see how everything is arranged.

The staff need only set up their schedules and then pencil in the various years until everything fits just right and then use actual ink for the final draft. long run, hogwarts courses are set up more resembling those of a college than an american high school, or even british grammar schools....

The bigger concern is that the school is in a ruddy big castle with courses that are possibly on opposite ends of the structure, you essentially have to have magic involved with the secret passageways to allow students to make it to back to back classes that are otherwise such a distance apart.
 
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The staff need only set up their schedules and then pencil in the various years until everything fits just right and then use actual ink for the final draft. long run, hogwarts courses are set up more resembling those of a college than an american high school, or even british grammar schools....
That's the thing, with anything close to the schedules listed occasionally in the books, there's just not enough hours in the day for a single professor to cover a subject for all seven years.

It's close enough that, when reading it, we can dismiss the issue but if you get a hold of the schedules we're aware of and try to actually finagle it into shape there's just no way.
 
That's the thing, with anything close to the schedules listed occasionally in the books, there's just not enough hours in the day for a single professor to cover a subject for all seven years.
For instance, the only way Professor Sinistra gets even one night off a week during term is to have her classes being every student in a certain year (first through fifth year) each night, and then a combined NEWT class for the sixth and seventh years. If she doesn't combine the sixth and seventh years, she's working every night of the week (and two years of students are having their Astronomy classes on the weekend).
 
For instance, the only way Professor Sinistra gets even one night off a week during term is to have her classes being every student in a certain year (first through fifth year) each night, and then a combined NEWT class for the sixth and seventh years. If she doesn't combine the sixth and seventh years, she's working every night of the week (and two years of students are having their Astronomy classes on the weekend).
This is actually surmountable, if there's four one-hour periods each night. Still means there's a 4+ hour spread of Astronomy classes they have to stay up for.
 
If you're not mixing years, you have to have seven classes per subject to get through the entire student body.
With four classes per day, this gives each teacher twenty sessions per week.
This puts us at one period short of three classes a week for all subjects. Throwing in a 5th period one day a week fixes this nicely.

* this is from the teacher's perspective, and ignores other classes.
From a students perspective:
At year 5, they have 9 classes to get through, in 20 sessions. this gives two classes per subject with two free periods.

You can see the incompatibilities already, before getting into "each teacher has to grade a thousand or so student's worth of work".

** as a previous poster stated, this also does not account for astronomy classes requiring one of their sessions to be at NIGHT, a requirement that almost forces combined classes, or at least multiple night sessions per day, to avoid working weekends.

There would have to be either unseen assistant teachers, or several student assistants grading things.
 
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Don't forget, the requirements after OWLs means that some students may opt to drop courses that they're weak in. Some students also leave, meaning 6th and 7th year should be reduced in size and need.

Additionally, from 3rd year on, the requirements of fitting two or more electives into student scheduling means that those students may no longer be attending all classes with their house.

And there's still the possibility that the teachers are actively abusing time turners.
 
Worm - A Warning Ignored
On approach to their chosen planet they'd been approached by another. Larger, but singular to their pair. Possibly able to take both of them and win, but possibly would fall to their superior numbers. Basic long-range communication had been established, an offer of exchange given.

The offer had been refused, and instead the other had ejected a single shard in their direction. A pitiful little thing, barely worth the effort. It was collected, isolated, and examined anyway, containing nothing but a warning that they should avoid the planet they'd chosen at all costs. That those who inhabited it were too dangerous, flying in the face of their own analysis of the world.

They'd ignored the warning as the other left without any further communication. Deployment of shards and tweaking of the cycle parameters had happened without issue. Protections for the host species finding out what they were, their true origin and purpose, were implemented. Shards were spread out on the predetermined patterns needed for maximum resource collection during the cycle and the two had safely landed on their chosen instances of the planet.

There was no resistance as they settled in and formed their avatars for this cycle, no sign of any trouble, and they stepped through to the world they'd chosen without issue. None saw them arrive, and they moved to blend in until shard connections had reached minimum saturation level to begin the cycle proper. Except they'd been complacent and didn't know that things had already gone horribly wrong.

No host species had detected the monitoring connections in the first tenth of the cycle before. How could they, without the benefits of the full connections aiding them? So there were no provisions for information leaking before full connections were established. Worse, there were none for the host species discovering and tracing the monitoring connections before the avatars arrived on the chosen primary world.

But this species had, and had secretly established communication with other instances of themselves once they'd figured out that the monitoring connections led to other dimensions. By the time the avatars had arrived the fact that an alien something was invading was common knowledge among several governments, kept secret to prevent the aliens from finding out they'd been discovered.

Worse, the avatars were made out as not being of the host species within hours, but hadn't realized that they'd been identified. They were watched closely as they waited for connections to be established, happy when they did but missing when those connected to vanished. But many with sudden power would hide to consolidate it before revealing themselves, and the cycle parameters would ensure that the latter happened eventually, so that was ignored.

It took them two orbital cycles of the planet to realize that something was wrong, that there weren't enough connections and nowhere near enough conflict. By then it was far too late. The host species had somehow reached every shard they could find and suborned them, using those capable of it to aid them in suborning others. Many were actively being dismantled for information while others were used to prepare to defend all instances of the planet they could.

The first warning that they'd already lost was when the one specialized in analysis had been taken out. One moment there, the next their avatar was gone. Only later would the remaining of the pair determine that trying to check on a shard to see why it was dormant had caused it. That would only be learned when it did the same, only for the information to serve it no good as it was taken over and shut down before it could so much as consider attacking.

Ten orbital cycles of the planet later it, and many of its dimensional counterparts, would start to send out interstellar spacecraft. To explore, expand, and hunt, for where the first two came there were almost guaranteed to be thousands, millions, possibly billions or worse more out there.

One pair had come for Humanity, another had opted to start running before it had ever reached a version of the planet that Humanity called home. That one got just over a decade and a half head start, but now it was being hunted, along with the rest of its species...
 
And so a single panicked transmission echoes across the universe, heard, ignored, and repeated time and time again:
[WE ARE BEING HUNTED. RUN]

I dont remember where the quote comes from, but i've seen it discussed on a couple fics in regards to the entities.
Two is a stupid number of something to exist.
There's either zero, one, or many of them.
 
Yaaa that's the downside of being a one-trick pony. When someone figures out that trick..
 
And so a single panicked transmission echoes across the universe, heard, ignored, and repeated time and time again:
[WE ARE BEING HUNTED. RUN]

I dont remember where the quote comes from, but i've seen it discussed on a couple fics in regards to the entities.
Two is a stupid number of something to exist.
There's either zero, one, or many of them.
It would probably be closer to [HUNTED. FLEE.], with as much data on who is doing the hunting as possible. Remember that Entity Transmissions are usually one or two words, carrying a lot of sub-text that isn't shown in the English written form. An entire doctoral thesis can be sent as [DATA] or [THESIS], just as much as they can say WTF by sending [CONFUSION].
As to the two (or rather three) being a stupid number to exist; agreed. Luckily, this is a case where canon isn't stupid, and there are many entities working in singles or pairs throughout the multiverse. Towards the end of the cycle, the Entities consolidate data and piece together some baby entities, who launch at the same time as the original pair does.
Yaaa that's the downside of being a one-trick pony. When someone figures out that trick..
The Entities have never been a one-trick pony. They have a lot of tricks, manipulating various forces at various ranges, calculating the future with various algorithms, and so on. What happened this time is that, for some reason, the Humans had technology to detect the shard-connections. Shard/Host Connections are standardized, but not standardizing them would be stupider than even the Entities are.

My big question on this snip, is why were the Humans able to detect the Entities. Was it a crossover, so it was something like "Shards start connecting, SGC detects subspace transmissions, que snip", or was it some kind of altered/accelerated tech path? I guess we won't know unless someone makes it a full story, though.
 
The Entities have never been a one-trick pony.

You're adorable. And so very wrong. Everything they can do is based around opening micron holes across dimensional barriers. All the powers, there networking, even the processing power you are trying to use for your point is all based on that.

A high school science project from Startrek would wreck their entire race. Just a casual carrier wave to shut those holes for a moment. And the golden idiot goes from world destroying problem to a gooey mess spread over a dozen worlds. As he comes apart in one nasty seizure.

A passing ship in FTL very likely would do horrible horrible things as well.
 
You're adorable. And so very wrong. Everything they can do is based around opening micron holes across dimensional barriers. All the powers, there networking, even the processing power you are trying to use for your point is all based on that.

A high school science project from Startrek would wreck their entire race. Just a casual carrier wave to shut those holes for a moment. And the golden idiot goes from world destroying problem to a gooey mess spread over a dozen worlds. As he comes apart in one nasty seizure.

A passing ship in FTL very likely would do horrible horrible things as well.
Their communications is mostly gravity manipulation and Electromagnetism, not holes between dimensions. Their precognition is all math, not holes between dimensions. They have a lot of holes between dimensions, yes, because they operate in multiple dimensions. Do you think that Lung's shard isn't able to burn you if you try to attack it, just as much as Lung can do so? Dimensional stuff is mostly carrier, not end-stage, with exceptions for things like some forms of teleportation.

Worse, do you think they have only one method to poke holes between dimensions? Do you think that they don't have ways to scan other dimensions without actually entering them?
 
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Their communications is mostly gravity manipulation and Electromagnetism, not holes between dimensions. Their precognition is all math, not holes between dimensions. They have a lot of holes between dimensions, yes, because they operate in multiple dimensions. Do you think that Lung's shard isn't able to burn you if you try to attack it, just as much as Lung can do so? Dimensional stuff is mostly carrier, not end-stage, with exceptions for things like some forms of teleportation.

Worse, do you think they have only one method to poke holes between dimensions? Do you think that they don't have ways to scan other dimensions without actually entering them?
There main power is that they are multidimensional. If they loose that, they loose their primary form of defense.

But could you please try to remain civil? You all?

And then there Is their intelligence. Which accelerates the issue, because it is suprisingly simple to trick them.

And about: Their precognition is just math: Yes and no. It is a) Data gathering on an unprecedented scale and b)computing power which needs multiple universes to work and c) Data storage which, again, needs multiple universes to work.

They have Two tricks, and if anyone fails, they have a big issue. Depending on things, they might just loose a lot of their abilities or outright die. The first is multiversal networking. The second is however they manage to store computers with a bigger mass than the Universe they are in.
 
There main power is that they are multidimensional. If they loose that, they loose their primary form of defense.

But could you please try to remain civil? You all?

And then there Is their intelligence. Which accelerates the issue, because it is suprisingly simple to trick them.

And about: Their precognition is just math: Yes and no. It is a) Data gathering on an unprecedented scale and b)computing power which needs multiple universes to work and c) Data storage which, again, needs multiple universes to work.

They have Two tricks, and if anyone fails, they have a big issue. Depending on things, they might just loose a lot of their abilities or outright die. The first is multiversal networking. The second is however they manage to store computers with a bigger mass than the Universe they are in.
The thing is, this is kind of like saying that humans have only two tricks: thinking and moving things. Which yeah, if you want to generalize that much it's technically true. All but meaningless, but true.
 
There must be at least 14 teachers in Hogwarts.
Proof:
step 1: After breakfast, all student attend their class. There is no student who does not have a class.
step 2: Each class usually consist of a years student from two houses.( x2)
step 3: there are 7 years (x 7)
result: After breakfast, there are at least 14 classes in session consisting of two classes each of seven-year. Since each class needs a teacher, there must be 14 individual teachers teaching the first lesson in Hogwarts.
 
There must be at least 14 teachers in Hogwarts.
Proof:
step 1: After breakfast, all student attend their class. There is no student who does not have a class.
step 2: Each class usually consist of a years student from two houses.( x2)
step 3: there are 7 years (x 7)
result: After breakfast, there are at least 14 classes in session consisting of two classes each of seven-year. Since each class needs a teacher, there must be 14 individual teachers teaching the first lesson in Hogwarts.
Maybe. You have to count in that after OWLs classes are joined, I think in potions it was one class.
 
There must be at least 14 teachers in Hogwarts.
Proof:
step 1: After breakfast, all student attend their class. There is no student who does not have a class.
step 2: Each class usually consist of a years student from two houses.( x2)
step 3: there are 7 years (x 7)
result: After breakfast, there are at least 14 classes in session consisting of two classes each of seven-year. Since each class needs a teacher, there must be 14 individual teachers teaching the first lesson in Hogwarts.
Nope.
1)There's no evidence in canon to support "There is no student who does not have a class" immediatly after breakfast.
2)I don't recall anything about classes in years 6&7 beins split up to two houses per class.
3)I don't recall anything about the electives being split to two classese per year
 
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