- Location
- St. Petersburg
I didn't post the wrong tally, but it was from 4334 to 4480. I can no longer replicate it; everything seems to be counted and merge correctly now.
Built in Vote Tallying
- Thread starter Firnagzen
- Start date
-
- Tags
- forum wizardry
At least 16 minutes. Didn't do fine testing to see how long.
- Location
- Central Standard Time
Bug report: Some time after XF2 came out, the Manage Tally save button stopped closing the Manage Tally modal.
... At least I *think* this is a regression.
... At least I *think* this is a regression.
Somehow my tally is the previous one
NexusEye
Aspiring God
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Bug report: the vote tally in Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties seems to be broken. Issue seems to have developed between a 8:51 AM JST(about two hours ago) when the last successful tally was made and about 9:30 AM JST when I first tried using the tally today. For me pressing the tally button either does nothing or gets stuck on "Processing Tally...". The fact that no ones updated the tally since 8:51 seems to imply that others are having trouble too, though I can't be sure. I did a test tally in RHUNRIKKI STROLLAR which seemed fine so it appears to be a local problem.
Edit: @Aranfan says they're also experiencing issues.
Edit: @Aranfan says they're also experiencing issues.
Last edited:
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Pinging @Xon so he sees this.
- Location
- Canada
I'm also having this issue. Something broke the tallybot in that thread. I guess it's been getting quite a workout today, and the thread in question is rather long; the tallybot seems to have cut out a little before the 139,000th post.
Someone tried to make it work on all 139,000 posts. Something went bonk, should be better now
Something strange happened in the I'm a High Fantasy Tax Collector So What? quest. Not sure if it's a bug or if we are not formatting votes correctly with the [Task] feature.
What appears to have happened is that when tallying by Plans the tally replaced some lines in two other plans with the variation in the third plan. This was a problem since the third plan differed from the winning plan, and so the "winning plan" according to the Tally included something different from third plan, instead of what was actually in the winning plan.
Differences in how the plan was formatted:
The third plan was the only plan to be written in lower case. The other two plans included bold lines.
When identifying where to combine tasks, the first Plan used the format
-[V] [Diplomacy + Free] Action
The second Plan used the format:
-[V] [Diplomacy] Action
--[V] Add Free action to Diplomacy Action
The third plan used:
-[v] [diplomacy] + [free] action
However, there does not appear to be any pattern as too which lines where replaced and which were not. Two lines replaced had these different formats, but other lines where also replaced that didn't have any differences (but you can tell they got replaced because they use the third plan's lower case and lack the bold format that the other two plans had).
What appears to have happened is that when tallying by Plans the tally replaced some lines in two other plans with the variation in the third plan. This was a problem since the third plan differed from the winning plan, and so the "winning plan" according to the Tally included something different from third plan, instead of what was actually in the winning plan.
Differences in how the plan was formatted:
The third plan was the only plan to be written in lower case. The other two plans included bold lines.
When identifying where to combine tasks, the first Plan used the format
-[V] [Diplomacy + Free] Action
The second Plan used the format:
-[V] [Diplomacy] Action
--[V] Add Free action to Diplomacy Action
The third plan used:
-[v] [diplomacy] + [free] action
However, there does not appear to be any pattern as too which lines where replaced and which were not. Two lines replaced had these different formats, but other lines where also replaced that didn't have any differences (but you can tell they got replaced because they use the third plan's lower case and lack the bold format that the other two plans had).
Last edited:
- Location
- Somewhere.
I think something's up with the CSS for displaying results - I'm seeing things get hit by overflow:hidden if they go over a certain length of vote. That or it's something up with my browser for some reason. I don't know, I couldn't actually figure out a way to make things render in my five minutes spent poking around in the element inspector. Observed in Chrome on Win10.
So... is there some way to fix and remove tally posts from a thread? And to prevent tally duplication?
So, a week or so ago, quest update posts by GMs started showing tallies at the bottom of their post. By which I mean, it was usually old posts suddenly started getting tallies appended to the bottom of them. Which, okay, it was in-the-way visually and broke up the flow of posts, especially if you were using Reader Mode to read threadmarks, but okay. ((I mostly noticed this due to keeping a tab open on an Informational threadmark Reader Mode. Use it to keep track of stuff in a quest.)) I've actually been meaning to bring it up, but keep forgetting to. To clarify -- these tallies used to not exist in the post when the posts were made, but started showing up around August 14th I think.
((EDIT 2: It apparently did not, in fact, start just on August 14th. I had originally been writing this post to say "I think this has been going on for weeks or multiple months now, but I keep putting off talking about this" but then double-checked a tab I had had opened, and saw that it had no tallies. And said tab was dated to last being edited Friday, August 14th. And so I assumed my sense of time was more skewed than I thought, and that it was only happening since like August 14th.))
((If BoneyM's been editing these out of his Character Sheet/Dramatis Personae/etc posts, then that also would help explain why I'd been forgetting about and putting off, this for months. Because they'd magically vanish one day and I'd go "Huh, it... huh." and so shrug and resolve to not mention it.))
((Of course, this also means that... The Tallies spring back up into the post, again and again, each time. So. It's not a one time thing. They keep coming back. Possibly with each time the forum goes through downtime, or when the forum's code is edited, or when the Tally system is edited, I dunno. Or maybe even just when somebody, or the GM, hits the Tally button in that thread at all.))
But today, it got way worse, presumably with the latest updates to the tally.
As now, those same posts got multiple tallies appended now!
There are posts with 4 tallies at the bottom now. Like this one and this one.
Here's a picture of what one of the posts looked like on August 14th.
And here's a picture of what it looks like if you hit refresh on that.
(A day or two ago, there was only one tally. As of today, there are now two. And some posts gained as many as up to 4.)
This actually seems to be either a "the number of tallies shown is the number of times that poster tallied things" thing of some sort, or perhaps "the number of times the poster opened up Thread Tools and hit 'New Tally' to check stuff." As the tallies are dated to slightly different dates. However, given that those posts date back to being first made in January 2018, did we even have the Thread Tally as an integrated part of the threads at that point? Did we potentially have the old version of one of the tallybots being in use at the time?
Anyway. The basic overall issue is:
There used to not be any Tallies shown on old posts -- because the posters had not inserted tallies into their posts at all. Then a week or so ago, the posts suddenly gained them.
Then today or yesterday, they gained multiple tallies!
It's obstructive and an eyesore. Is there any way to clear out tallies (without accidentally erasing tallies from posts that intentionally show them and add them to their posts) on these old posts?
Or should we start asking the posters to edit their posts and remove tallies nowadays? ((Also to clarify, as I've actually not posted tallies myself, I don't actually even know if you can edit your post to remove a tally. Is that a thing you can do? I assume it is, but...))
EDIT: Actually, since BoneyM just edited the Character Sheet like 15 minutes ago, the Tally disappeared from it for now... Well'p. I guess either updating a post removes tallies or BoneyM went to update his post, saw a bunch of tallies at the bottom, went "That doesn't look right, that's not supposed to be there?" and manually edited them out.
So I guess that suggests an answer to the question of, at least, whether you can remove tallies from your post.
Now it's just a matter of a bunch of old posts having had tallies show up. =/
So, a week or so ago, quest update posts by GMs started showing tallies at the bottom of their post. By which I mean, it was usually old posts suddenly started getting tallies appended to the bottom of them. Which, okay, it was in-the-way visually and broke up the flow of posts, especially if you were using Reader Mode to read threadmarks, but okay. ((I mostly noticed this due to keeping a tab open on an Informational threadmark Reader Mode. Use it to keep track of stuff in a quest.)) I've actually been meaning to bring it up, but keep forgetting to. To clarify -- these tallies used to not exist in the post when the posts were made, but started showing up around August 14th I think.
((EDIT 2: It apparently did not, in fact, start just on August 14th. I had originally been writing this post to say "I think this has been going on for weeks or multiple months now, but I keep putting off talking about this" but then double-checked a tab I had had opened, and saw that it had no tallies. And said tab was dated to last being edited Friday, August 14th. And so I assumed my sense of time was more skewed than I thought, and that it was only happening since like August 14th.))
((If BoneyM's been editing these out of his Character Sheet/Dramatis Personae/etc posts, then that also would help explain why I'd been forgetting about and putting off, this for months. Because they'd magically vanish one day and I'd go "Huh, it... huh." and so shrug and resolve to not mention it.))
((Of course, this also means that... The Tallies spring back up into the post, again and again, each time. So. It's not a one time thing. They keep coming back. Possibly with each time the forum goes through downtime, or when the forum's code is edited, or when the Tally system is edited, I dunno. Or maybe even just when somebody, or the GM, hits the Tally button in that thread at all.))
But today, it got way worse, presumably with the latest updates to the tally.
As now, those same posts got multiple tallies appended now!
There are posts with 4 tallies at the bottom now. Like this one and this one.
Here's a picture of what one of the posts looked like on August 14th.
And here's a picture of what it looks like if you hit refresh on that.
(A day or two ago, there was only one tally. As of today, there are now two. And some posts gained as many as up to 4.)
This actually seems to be either a "the number of tallies shown is the number of times that poster tallied things" thing of some sort, or perhaps "the number of times the poster opened up Thread Tools and hit 'New Tally' to check stuff." As the tallies are dated to slightly different dates. However, given that those posts date back to being first made in January 2018, did we even have the Thread Tally as an integrated part of the threads at that point? Did we potentially have the old version of one of the tallybots being in use at the time?
Anyway. The basic overall issue is:
There used to not be any Tallies shown on old posts -- because the posters had not inserted tallies into their posts at all. Then a week or so ago, the posts suddenly gained them.
Then today or yesterday, they gained multiple tallies!
It's obstructive and an eyesore. Is there any way to clear out tallies (without accidentally erasing tallies from posts that intentionally show them and add them to their posts) on these old posts?
Or should we start asking the posters to edit their posts and remove tallies nowadays? ((Also to clarify, as I've actually not posted tallies myself, I don't actually even know if you can edit your post to remove a tally. Is that a thing you can do? I assume it is, but...))
EDIT: Actually, since BoneyM just edited the Character Sheet like 15 minutes ago, the Tally disappeared from it for now... Well'p. I guess either updating a post removes tallies or BoneyM went to update his post, saw a bunch of tallies at the bottom, went "That doesn't look right, that's not supposed to be there?" and manually edited them out.
So I guess that suggests an answer to the question of, at least, whether you can remove tallies from your post.
Now it's just a matter of a bunch of old posts having had tallies show up. =/
Last edited:
Manually edited. They've been popping up for a while but I'd assumed it was just slippery fingers on my part. Though it seems recently they've changed from a box to tick to some bbcode in the post itself.
Okay so I guess scratch that "This started on August 14th I think?" comment of mine from the previous post.
I had initially been writing that post and going "This has been going on for weeks/months, and..." But my grasp of time and memory isn't great. So, I went to go check out a tab I was keeping open for a bit -- and I saw that one dated to August 14th was empty of Tallies. So I assumed that that meant my gut feels of "I feel like this has been happening for weeks and/or months now" was really badly off, and so instead wrote that post to say "August 14th."
But now that BoneyM's pointed out that he'd been editing them away, I am back to "So, I think this might have been a thing for weeks or months?"-feeling now.
Ah. It must have been happening longer since August 14th then.
And no, they suddenly started infesting old posts of all sorts. ((For example, opening up the Threadmarks into Reader Mode, for the early story updates? Yeah, they're infested with them. And those posts haven't been edited since 2018.))
Are you saying that they're actually recurring though? They're popping back up after being deleted? Well that's... annoying.
And also means that they'd be essentially impossible to keep clean off of old story update posts for any GM in the Quest forum, then, as only Informational posts tend to be edited regularly much.
I had initially been writing that post and going "This has been going on for weeks/months, and..." But my grasp of time and memory isn't great. So, I went to go check out a tab I was keeping open for a bit -- and I saw that one dated to August 14th was empty of Tallies. So I assumed that that meant my gut feels of "I feel like this has been happening for weeks and/or months now" was really badly off, and so instead wrote that post to say "August 14th."
But now that BoneyM's pointed out that he'd been editing them away, I am back to "So, I think this might have been a thing for weeks or months?"-feeling now.
Ah. It must have been happening longer since August 14th then.
And no, they suddenly started infesting old posts of all sorts. ((For example, opening up the Threadmarks into Reader Mode, for the early story updates? Yeah, they're infested with them. And those posts haven't been edited since 2018.))
Are you saying that they're actually recurring though? They're popping back up after being deleted? Well that's... annoying.
And also means that they'd be essentially impossible to keep clean off of old story update posts for any GM in the Quest forum, then, as only Informational posts tend to be edited regularly much.
There should be an 'expand votes' thing like with quotes. It was initially bugged but I did deploy a fix.
Otherwise I need you to link to an example post or similar and with a screenshot. I need both of those.
Yes, I'm investigating why the hell this is occurred. It looks like the migration from the old system (of 1 per post) to the new bb-code was bugged some how. New posts look fine.
Do these duplicate vote results stay after you edit them out or is it just you finding new examples on more posts?
They've only been there for less than 12 hours!
Last edited:
The extra duplicate ones, yes. Some posts now suddenly have 2 or 3 or 4 Tallies.
But posts suddenly developing an inserted Tally at the bottom of the post has been a thing for a while now. Weeks or months. It just usually was only one Tally.
Today, some posts suddenly developed 2 to 4 Tallies. (Or at least, I'm pretty sure of it. It might possibly be the case that there were multiple tallies before today too. I do not think so, I think it was only one, but I'm not a hundred percent sure. As the business with the Informational posts suddenly getting and then suddenly losing Tallies, due to BoneyM editing them away, messed with me a bit. Once he confirmed that he was editing away though, I went "Oh right, so my first instinct gut feel of 'Old posts suddenly developed a Tally at the bottom of them weeks/months ago' was right after all.")
EDIT: Speaking on a slightly different topic, but related... Is it possible to alter the Thread Tools' "vote tally" popup, to have the Total Voters, Posts, and Timestamp-it-was-last-tallied, show up outside the now-made-Tally-configuration spoiler thing?
i.e. Make it so that just hitting "Vote tally" will have "Total Voters", "Timestamp" and "Posts" directly showing -- like it used to before this -- rather than being hidden under an expendable spoiler thing?
It was really convenient and helpful to be able to see immediately how many Total Voters there are.
Especially as you could immediately contrast it with how many voters the top most popular leading option had. That instant comprehension was nice.
The rest of the bunch of information that is in the extendable/spoiler/however-you-call-it thing can remain under the spoiler.
But having Total Voters, and the date/timestamp, (and posts too) immediately accessible was really handy in the previous iteration of the Tally mechanism.
Last edited:
- Location
- Somewhere.
Here you go.
A Lonely Voyage: Multiversal Shipping Quest Original - Fantasy
Inserted tally - December for Lightning, Edward for Metal, Ashley for Earth, and Starlight for our captain. 502467
forums.sufficientvelocity.com
Last edited:
- Location
- Somewhere.
Yeah that appears to be what is happening on my end.
AnonymousRabbit
Rabbit Faced
Is there any way of rolling back the old vote tally? This new one seems very intrusive and hard to handle. The older one was more convenient with automatically posting the tally instead of booting me to a separate page with a bbcode alongside the post I was already making.
They're gone when I edit them out, but it can't be the result of a single event. It's happened both under the old tally system and with the new one, and I'm sure I've removed them several times from some of the more commonly used informational threadmarks - which is what lead me to believe it was just me being clumsy, because I'd only noticed them on the posts I frequently edited.
I believe I've found why this happened. Good news is it will not reoccur going forward, but I'm working on cleaning up the duplicate entries.
Nope.
Thanks, I'll let you know if any more reappear.
The new tally system's bb-code should be much easier to use correctly vs the old checkbox which may or may not have immediately worked
Is it possible to fiddle with the Tread Tools vote tally's appearance/UI to accomplish this?
To move Total Voters, Posts, and Timestamp, out from under the Tally Configuration and put them just above (or at) the Results tab. (I mean, not exactly among the results section, but like...
About there.
Have it show "total voters", number of posts, and timestamp, when using Thread Tools to use the Vote Tally; possibly having them be right above the "results" section. As opposed to hiding under the Tally Configuration spoiler.
Reason being, the old way it was much more convenient; and you can directly and immediately see both how many votes the top vote has, and what the total number of voters was.
But with the change, now it's all under the Tally Configuration section... and that thing is a bit tall. It's got a bunch of information, but not all of it is information I want immediately or right off the bat. Mostly, when I check the Vote Tally, I most want to know how many total voters there are and how old the tally is.