I've seen the movie with Extremis, but I don't remember anything other than multiple tele-operated suits and some handsome dude with lava-skin that kidnapped Stark's assistant? Pepper, was it?

You have awesome memory, it seems.

As I'm pretty sure has been mentioned, she's been spending a lot of brainpower digging up every scrap of memory she has on the MCU. If you spent months picking at those details and trying to fill in the blanks, you'd probably remember a lot more too. And it helps that she basically just watched a clip from the movie.

Response to edit: Yes, that's the right movie. The handsome blonde man is Aldrich Killian.
 
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Please, can we (Avengers) get Super Pepper out of it? With fire (or other elemental ) spirit.

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Rescue. She's also been Madame Masque a few times. Or Iron Maiden. Those two would depend on where she got her power from. But probably Rescue, regardless.
hmm...would she be doing fire related rescues?
like, in the dark, with fire for light, helping with fire fighting after a lot of practice, wielding metal shut for temporary solutions until the professionals arrive, helping people stuck in the cold icy areas?
 
hmm...would she be doing fire related rescues?
like, in the dark, with fire for light, helping with fire fighting after a lot of practice, wielding metal shut for temporary solutions until the professionals arrive, helping people stuck in the cold icy areas?

Extremis can't put out fires in the same way a Firebender can. They aren't technically pyrokinetic since they don't control fire. They only create it. And they aren't heat-proof either. In fact if Pepper had Extremis as it exists now, she would probably want to avoid excess heat, for fear of burning too hot. But she would still be a super-strong regenerating human flamethrower. That's good enough for hero work. It's arguably as effective as what SI can currently consciously bring to bear.
 
She could donate organs. Killian gets his arm chopped off but is fine after a minute or two.

Huuuh. Extremis enhanced organs for sale? That's a business opportunity!
 
IIRC, IM3 took place after the first Avengers movie. I'm guessing it's happening earlier here due to SI's presence somehow. But since Tony doesn't have PTSD from the whole Chitauri fight (in fact, he's probably still dealing with the palladium poison pre-IM2), does that mean he won't be getting involved?
 
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IIRC, IM3 took place after the first Avengers movie. I'm guessing it's happening earlier here due to SI's presence somehow. But since Tony doesn't have PTSD from the whole Chitauri fight (in fact, he's probably still dealing with the palladium poison pre-IM2), does that mean he won't be getting involved?

The finale of Iron Man 2 took place the same week as Thor. SI mentioned watching news footage of the Stark Expo attack in "The Consultant".

There are three reasons Tony got involved in AIM's machinations in the Prime timeline. The first is that Happy was injured in one of the "bombings". The second is that Maya Hansen contacted him when she started realizing just how evil Killian had become. The third is that Killian tried to steal his girlfriend. Surprisingly, even though they have connected backstories, there's no revenge plot. Aldrich Killian's War has nothing to do with Tony Stark personally. If Happy hadn't been injured, Maya had been silenced, and he had kept it in his pants, the President would have died, and Killian would have won without ever facing off against Stark. It's all a little contrived that it went the way it did the first time.

But actually, not much is happening earlier except AIM being revealed. The President they were going to execute hasn't even been sworn in yet. Maya Hansen had the basic formula of Extremis back in 1999, so AIM has had a long time to play with it and build their army. They were already there long before The Avengers movie took place, or even Iron Man 2. They've likely been active for almost as long as Superman. Their future plans just got a lot more complicated, because in the hope of fixing the overheating issue they accidentally antagonized SHIELD and the prematurely-formed Avengers. But they had no way of knowing that SI would know so much about what they've been up to. That's just bad luck.

TLDR: Yes, half-yes, yes, no, yes.
 
oh, could generating fire and heat be used to generate power/electricity?
like, instead of coal, they use Extrimis workers to generate the low but constant heat needed to fuel the engine?
 
Bo
AIM was officially disbanded a week ago. But of course that only drove them to shift attention to the criminal half of the organization. Yesterday we got an anonymous tip-off. Apparently her name is Doctor Borjigin, and she knows when she's on the losing team when one of their facilities is raided by multiple superhuman operatives.

Several bullets deflect off my back, and I draw my own gun and turn to shoot the soldier. A glow like lava fills the hole in his head, and the flesh melts back into place.

I run to him and grab his head by either side, funneling as much heat energy as I can inside. The glow burning through his skin from the inside grows brighter and he starts to scream. There's a bright flash and I'm knocked backwards by the blast. When my eyes readjust, I see a smoking headless corpse fall to the ground.

Nat offers me a hand getting to my feet, and I take it. She looks at the body, "You know before you showed up, bullets usually worked."

I walk over to pick up and reholster my fallen pistol, "They usually still do."

Clint comes on comms, "I found Killian. He's in the north wing of the lab. Thunderer, is the doc clear?"

Phil confirms, "Doctor Borjigin is safely in custody. All units assemble near the north wing. Avatar and Black Widow, secure the exit while War Machine and I bring in Killian. Hawkeye, pick off anyone who gets out."

'Assemble'? That word hasn't become significant yet, has it? I can't remember if I've said that around Phil yet in some context or not.

Nat and I hop into the nearest enemy jeep and she hotwires it within two seconds. I shoot a few people who run to try and stop us. We circle around the building until we find a metal door on the north side. Nat takes out a small explosive and plants it on the lock.

She asks on comms, "Everyone ready to breach?"

Rhodes says, "We were waiting on you guys."

Phil starts counting, "Breach in 3, 2, "

Nat detonates the explosive and the doors come off their hinges. We step over them and into the cloud of a smoke grenade, guns drawn. Nat takes out two combatants before I even see them. The third gets back up, and I empty my clip into his skull. He doesn't get up from that. I guess the healing must have its limits.

I put in a new clip, "Looks like bullets work after all."

I hear a thunderclap coming from somewhere else in the building.

Clint comes on comms, "Be alert. Killian pulled a big scary lever. We may be in for a tougher day than we thought."

Uh oh. Self-destruct? We don't have a technician with us. Nat could probably defuse a bomb, I think. I guess this is why they had Stark in the movies.

I ask, "Thunderer, War Machine. Do you need help taking down Killian?"

Rhodes answers and I can hear the same explosion doubled through the comms and the walls, "Negative, Avatar. Keep the perimeter secure. We don't want anyone getting out with a copy of the Extremis formula."

And then I see the giant glowing yellow eyes through the fog in front of us. And then it breathes, and the smoke is instantly blown aside.

A grizzly bear the size of a small car prowls through the corridor towards us. The orange light of Extremis shines from its eyes and jaws. How did we not hear this thing coming?

"Well shit." I get on comms, "I think I know what that lever did. Killian released his lab rats."

Clint grunts over comms and I hear wolves barking, "Yeah, I got that."

I lean slightly towards Nat and whisper, "Why isn't it attacking us?"

The bear sniffs the air and snarls. Its eyes narrow at us.

Never mind.

As soon as it's moving we both open fire. But guns of this caliber wouldn't even take down a regular grizzly. It reaches us and takes a swipe. I jump back a step, and Nat flips over its claw onto its back.

She grabs its fur with one hand and reloads one-handed before firing point-blank into the top of its skull. It rears as high as it can within the confines of the hallway to shake her off, claws swiping erratically.

While it's on two paws I aim lower, filling each back leg with four bullets. It roars at me, and a plume of fire fills the hallway around me just after I throw my hands up in a wedge shield. I drop my gun when it superheats in my hand.

The bear drops back onto four paws, and I take two steps back to stay out of its reach. I pop open one of my hardcase water pockets and spill it over one of its front paws, and then freeze it. The ice is already steaming, but it gives Nat the time she needs to unload another full clip into the creature's brain, and it finally falls.

Nat climbs off the front of its head, takes a deep breath, reloads again, and empties that into it too.

I give her a humorous eyebrow, "I think you got it."

She reloads again, "Better safe than sorry."

I shrug, "You can have my ammo. I think the grizzly melted my gun." I don't care too much. It wasn't the first gun SHIELD gave me. That gun is the one I keep in my room, although I think Jack has it right now.

I hand her a few spare mags from my belt and she takes them, "Thanks."

Clint comes on comms, "I need backup. I've been pinned up a tree by a pack of Extremis wolves, and they're starting to burn it down."

Nat runs out the way we came in, "On my way."

A few seconds pass broken only by the sounds of thunder and explosions. The only two conventional exits are this door and the bay window where I'm assuming Clint spotted Killian. So as long as I hold this door no-one can get out.

My head bends back at an impact to my mask. Ow. I need to look into some neck support later. I get up again and the soldier who shot me drops their weapon and puts their hands up. Seriously? One bullet and you're done? Is it because of the creepy mask?

I'm not actually sure what to do here. My gun is useless, partially melted out of shape on the floor. He's surrendering, so it feels wrong to fry him.

And then the hallway implodes into splinters as something crashes through, demolishing every wall on its way and probably crushing my hostage. I run out of the building as fast as I can and turn to see what it is.

An elephant that just broke out of the building trumpets a stream of what looks like napalm into the sky.

I get on comms, "Guys. Killian has an oliphaunt!"

Nat tells me, "You're getting no help from us. The wolves are herding us like cattle."

Am I gonna have to fight this thing by myself? Shit. Where do I even start?

Phil calls in, "Killian is secure. War Machine and I are free to handle the fire-breathing elephant."

I ask, already knowing they don't, "Do you need my help?"

"Go help Hawkeye and Black Widow."

Then Fury's voice cuts in, "Thunderer, War Machine. Try not to kill it. It's the only herbivore we've encountered, so it might be less hostile. If you can subdue it for research we might be able to figure out what exactly Killian's been feeding these people."

"That might be difficult, but I'll see what I can do."

I'm running towards Clint's last known position, "Director, while you're here, Jemma Simmons can help the team working with Extremis."

"I appreciate the intel, Avatar, but she's already on the team." Ah. Makes sense.

I can hear the barking now. I slow down and get on comms, "Hawkeye, what's your position?"

No response. If I had gone with the Heads Up Display version of the mask his position would just be on my compass. But since I didn't do that, I have no way of finding him unless he speaks up.

I hear a rustling in the bushes and turn around. I really hope I'm not being hunted by flaming wolves right now. I hope they didn't eat Clint.

I see something moving on the trunk of a nearby tree and blast it with fire. A piece of the bark peels off and then glides like a paper airplane down into the bushes somewhere else.

An Extremis wolf runs over to the bushes and starts growling at them. It doesn't even notice me. It's too busy barking at whatever that is in the bush. I slowly approach it from behind, and then extend my hands and start pushing heat into its body. It whimpers and starts to run away, only to explode before it can get quite out of sight.

I look back to the bush, and start to pull aside one of the larger leaves so I can look inside.

The leaf comes off and crawls up my arm. I squeal and fall on my butt trying to get away.

The lizard changes to the same midnight blue shade as my uniform, with a dark red stripe down its back where my arrow is.

You're a freaky looking thing. It's about as long as my handspan, minus the tips. Maybe eighteen centimeters. It has six legs, with webbing like a bat running from each of them to the torso. Its head looks like it unfolds like that one dinosaur from Jurassic Park.

A lizard that glides like a flying squirrel. A lizard that both glides and camouflages? Does that exist? That's a stupid question, I'm looking at it.

I stiffen as it crawls up onto my shoulder and faces forward. It's searching the area around us for threats, as if I'm not one.

I guess if it was going to attack me it would have already. I carefully start walking again and get back on comms, "Hawkeye? What's your situation?"

I hear his voice behind me and shriek, twirling around and getting in my Firebending stance.

He and Nat give me a second to realize how stupid I'm being, "Didn't mean to startle you." He strings an arrow and points it at the lizard on my shoulder, "Do you need me to take care of your friend there?"

It hisses, and a plume of fire sets the tip of Clint's arrow alight.

I look at it, and it looks back at me. Huh.

I shake my head, "No. Thanks."

It's hard to judge reptilian facial expressions, but it almost looks protective.

He questions, "You sure? That seemed pretty aggressive."

I nod, "Yeah, I'm sure. I think... it was trying to protect me. It thought you were threatening me."

Nat asks, "How can you tell?"

I shake my head, kind of freaked out by the feeling myself, "I'm not sure. Maybe because I protected it from a wolf a minute ago?"

What the fuck is wrong with me? There's a tiny dragon on my shoulder and I'm not trying to get rid of it? I'm scared. But somehow something makes me think that fear is unwarranted. Why do I think that? The more I think about it the more I know that there is no reason. At least no conscious reason.

Nat calls the rest of our team, "Thunderer? War Machine? Do you need any assistance with the elephant?"

Rhodes answers, "It's dreaming about lady fire elephants on top of what used to be Killian's lab. It and the doc might be the only research left intact from this site though. I think we're done here."

Clint nods, "Alright, copy that."

The lizard crawls down onto my hand. I turn palm up to make a little platform, and it curls around and starts chewing on its own tail. The tail glows with Extremis and grows just as fast as it can eat.

I realize that they'll want to study it, dissect it. And only a moment after I realize that I can't let that happen. I tell Clint and Natasha, "They're not taking him."

"Her." I look at Clint. He points, "The dewlap is too small to be a guy."

I ask, "You know what this thing is?"

He shrugs, "Not exactly. I've never seen one with six legs before. But the circus used to bring a few trained ones on tour. They're called gliding dragons."

He's never talked about the circus before. I didn't even know if that part of his backstory applied. I guess he's starting to trust me. That's a good feeling.

Nat asks me, "You're gonna keep that thing? You know you can't let her go free with Extremis in her system."

I nod, "I guess so."

She stops chewing on her tail, and curls up in my hand, going to sleep. Fuck. She's too cute to let die now.

I ask, "What's that thing called when a snake eats its own tail?"

Nat answers, "An ouroboros."

I nod, "Yeah, right. That. I'll name her Ouroboros. Or, Bo for short."

Clint shakes his head and starts walking in the direction of the former AIM lab, "You're the one that has to explain to Coulson. And you get to clean up after her."

Nat falls in line behind him, "Good thing you can put out fires with your mind, right?"
 
and thus you gain a Momo.
..what? gliding animal that clings to your shoulder?
wonder if it can produce enough light to be useful as a lamp?
 
I didn't know this was actually a thing, lol

Now I kind of want to see one.

But with six legs. I took some liberties with their camouflage too.

and thus you gain a Momo.
..what? gliding animal that clings to your shoulder?
wonder if it can produce enough light to be useful as a lamp?

Momo for now.

Appa comes in March.

Extremis can't generate light without heat. Bo is small. In order to glow with enough light to see by, she'd probably be painful to be near. A better strategy in most situations would be to have her or SI light a torch.
 
The Master Falls
We arrested Aldrich Killian yesterday. And now he's requested to speak to Avatar in exchange for telling us where the remaining fake Ten Rings outposts are.

I enter the observation area of a SHIELD containment cell. It's not one of the unbreakable ones from the tv show, but I've been assured that it can take ten times anything he can throw at it. He can't see me. But he still turns to face us. Bo sees him and scurries onto my back to hide from the man who experimented on her.

I ask Phil, "How does he know I'm here? I thought this window was one-way. He's looking right at me."

He shakes his head, "I don't know."

I see a sliver of fiery orange run up his tracheal artery, and his eyes glow, "How do you do it? One-point-two billion dollars of R&D got me this far up the evolutionary ladder. And then you come along. When my people detected your heat signature in New Mexico, we thought it had to be one of ours. But then it vanished. And then it kept popping up, somewhere underground on the coast near Metropolis? And then we get your blood, and there isn't a single special thing about it. So that left the question. How do you do it?"

I take a deep breath, and push the microphone button, "I'll answer yours if you answer mine. You said you detected my heat signature? How?"

He wiggles a finger at me, "That's not how this works, Avatar. I'm giving you my empire, and you want more?"

I look at Phil, "Do I have anything else to bargain with?"

"More comfortable containment."

I sigh, "Okay." Push-to-talk, "That cell doesn't look very comfortable. How would you like a real bed again?"

He pretends to think about it, "Tempting. But you're going to have to do better than that."

Improvise, "How good is your lawyer?"

"Better than yours."

Phil pulls me back away from the microphone, "I didn't authorize that offer."

Killian cuts in, "...But not cheaper. You want to know how we trace heat signatures?"

I look back at Phil, "According to him, I just docked his representation and made it less likely for the charges to be dropped. And the more we can learn about the Extremis research, the happier Fury will be. It's to our benefit." Even if his motives for wanting that may be suspect.

After a second-long frown I get a hesitant nod.

I turn back to our captive, "Yes. I want to know everything."

"Hidden in all flame is a unique variance, a
... fingerprint if you will of where it comes from. Minute fluctuations, patterns in the way the temperature propagates that can be used to determine both the ignition fuel, and its method of sustenance."

What? Is he talking about elemental energy? AIM figured out a way to scan for it?

"Your fire is unique. But the closest match is…" He raises his hand and it glows red hot, "...My work. Extremis. But your genes are still only human. You must have gotten your fire somewhere. I've answered yours. Now you answer mine. Where did you get it."

"You didn't tell me everything. How do you track the signatures?"

He looks disappointed, "Oh come now, you can figure that out."

To Phil, "Can we?"

I get a nod.

I push the button again, "Alright. Fair's fair. My power isn't in my blood. It's in my soul. An ancient spirit that fused with mine a few months ago. I channel my Chi to sense and harness the universal energy of the four elements."

He frowns, "You could have just told me you're not willing to say."

I transmit my laugh, "I'm not lying. It's your own damn fault if you don't believe me."

I reach out my hand and try to feel his energy. It's unlike anything I've ever felt before. There's tiny strands and momentary flares of fire running throughout his entire body. Parts of his blood are boiling. Parts of his body are in the process of reducing themselves to ash. I can only assume the healing factor is the only thing making up for it.

And then I notice millions of miniscule subconscious heat shields, just like I use. Parts of his body are constantly protecting each other, taking turns between burning and healing in a molecular dance. I have to be impressed at AIM's work. Extremis really is something amazing.

I tell him more, "I think we use the same elemental energy. I have to consciously summon it. Your body does it for you. In some ways I envy your accomplishment, considering you had no idea what you were actually working with."

"That reminds me of something my father used to say. Ignorance is the first refuge of the wise. Understanding is the next."

...What? I'm sorry… What? That doesn't…

He gives a dismissing gesture, "I don't know why I brought that up. It's a stupid saying. The point behind it is, I think as the person who's been studying this for the last eight years, I can say that it's not based on any 'four elements' magic."

Push the button, "And as the reincarnating spirit-bridge-person who's been mastering it every generation for the last thousand, I think I still have seniority. And it's pretty much magic. Sorry, science dude. Your bubble: Pop."

He shakes his head, "You're insane."

I don't transmit the laugh this time, I just share it with Phil. He looks unamused. I push to talk, "Takes one to know one. I wasn't the one who took his own experimental formula and then decided to become a terrorist."

"Well you do run around in a mask." He sighs, "We're done here. I'm not giving you what you want if all you're going to give me is insults."

Ah, shit, "Wait."

He puts his arms to either side, "It's not like I'm going anywhere."

Good point, "Right. Sorry. Your body. It's burning. The main thing keeping you alive is the regenerative effect."

He nods, "Yes, that's the primary bug in the formula we were never able to work out. It's why the subjects who couldn't regulate reacted so... flamboyantly."

"That's not the only thing keeping you alive. All of your cells would be burning up at once if your body wasn't generating tiny heat shields. Essentially, some of your cells are blocked off from the brunt of the heat by a strong layer of concentrated heat surrounding them."

He frowns, "That's not how heat works. It would radiate in both directions and destroy the thing you were trying to protect."

I'm getting frustrated, "It's how elemental heat energy works. The good heat blocks and cancels out the bad. In your case there is no good heat, but it's still serving the same function. It's happening in half the cells in your body and you're telling me you never noticed it?"

He nods, " We were getting some anomalous results on the cellular level. What you're describing could explain it. So you're saying if we can determine how this shielding works and enhance it so all the cells are protected instead of just some of them, it would prevent the cataclysmic system failures. If that's true it would also triple the healing effectiveness, if not more." He pauses and thinks for a second, "That's more than enough, I'll give you what you want. Thank you."

I let go of the button and walk away from the glass, "Good luck using that information in prison." Bo crawls around to my arm, and I give her head a little reassuring rub. Don't worry. That man can't hurt either of us anymore.
 
I let go of the button and walk away from the glass, "Good luck using that information in prison." Bo crawls around to my arm, and I give her head a little reassuring rub. Don't worry. That man can't hurt either of us anymore.

Considering how many fictional (not 100% sure on IRL criminals, but probably them too) crime lords run their enterprises from inside prisons, sure, sure he can hurt you all.
 
I feel like this is going to backfire, but I'm not sure why.
 
Considering how many fictional (not 100% sure on IRL criminals, but probably them too) crime lords run their enterprises from inside prisons, sure, sure he can hurt you all.

Even in the MCU.

Wilson Fisk arranges for several people to be 'vanished' over seas and a student's debts to be waived, coerces a judge and gets a message to Frank Castle (probably the most publicized serial killer in NYC history) in the courtroom during his trial, all from within the walls of a high-security prison.

There's also no way to confirm that Killian gave them a comprehensive account. Especially since there's no practical way to tell AIM Ten Rings outposts from the real ones.
 
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There's also no way to confirm that Killian gave them a comprehensive account. Especially since there's no practical way to tell AIM Ten Rings outposts from the real ones.
This is a good point. On a side note, is the distinction you're making between AIM Ten Rings and real Ten Rings MCU canon, or are you just making sense of the obvious difference in competence between Iron Man 1 Mandarin and Iron Man 3 Mandarin?
 
This is a good point. On a side note, is the distinction you're making between AIM Ten Rings and real Ten Rings MCU canon, or are you just making sense of the obvious difference in competence between Iron Man 1 Mandarin and Iron Man 3 Mandarin?

Its existence is canon, thanks to "Hail to the King". But anything more detailed is speculation. It could be that Killian was only responsible for the broadcasts and Extremis-related attacks and nothing more. It could be that "Hail to the King" is the only time we ever saw the real Ten Rings at work.

For this fic it's somewhere in the middle. The real Ten Rings is a publicly active organization. But they don't actually care about the United States enough to make regular attacks, so Killian started buying up weapons to lend his invented threat legitimacy. I haven't decided for sure which Ten Rings allied with Stane in the first Iron Man, but based on motive it was more likely Killian's.
 
Its existence is canon, thanks to "Hail to the King". But anything more detailed is speculation. It could be that Killian was only responsible for the broadcasts and Extremis-related attacks and nothing more. It could be that "Hail to the King" is the only time we ever saw the real Ten Rings at work.

For this fic it's somewhere in the middle. The real Ten Rings is a publicly active organization. But they don't actually care about the United States enough to make regular attacks, so Killian started buying up weapons to lend his invented threat legitimacy. I haven't decided for sure which Ten Rings allied with Stane in the first Iron Man, but based on motive it was more likely Killian's.

Interesting. I got the impression that the Ten Rings in IM1 was the legit one, considering that they only seemed to care about Tony for the sake of the weapons he kept inventing (thus the price jump), and otherwise seemed to give no fucks about the US. Killian struck me as more of an opportunist, taking an existing thing that caused problems in places other than the US, and making it a US problem to explain his exploding test subjects. On the other hand, doing that might irritate the real Mandarin.

Also, the Mandarin in IM1 spent an awful lot of time fondling a ring on his right hand. I don't remember fake-Mandarin ever being shown playing with a ring.
 
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