Chimeraguard
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-[X] Plan Fortress Rotholz:
[X] Plan Valley Fortress
[X] Plan Valley Fortress
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- Thread starter Photomajig
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Would it be possible for the plan makers to make a short list summarizing their thoughts, it kinda getting hard to keep track of all the arguments.
You might very well be correct, and playing all this out would be much more fun than just a static defense. However, I do want to point out that you are describing a cavalry-heavy maneuvering battle. I am not convinced we are surely victorious in such a battle, since he has arguably better cavalry than us, and plenty of artillery that will fire on our cavalry as soon as they show themselves. He also has enough artillery that he can afford to lose one or two batteries, while us losing even one unit of cavalry could be dangerous.One Artillery is missing here,
I would definitely try to disrupt the building formations, because that will be quite easy. If the eastern artillery moves through the Rotholz to go to where they are I would charge and destroy the western detachment with all our cavalry and as much infantry as we need, because the majority of his army is unable to support it. If he moves the artillery through the center to the east, I would destroy them in transit, by first destroying the cavalry by feinting, so charging his artillery, triggering his cavalry ready charge and moving back, drawing his cavalry into our artillery fire. Once his cavalry has been exhausted this way he has no way to prevent us from just charging the artillery, cause infantry cannot screen.
If we have no way of intercepting his artillery moving this deep into our zone of control and we just get this formation dropped into our lap, I would have the 10th shoot the western artillery that is not in cover, doing an average of 25 damage per turn and destroying it in two turns.
here are some ways in which we could destroy his formation with cavalry:
Have the 10th, 84th and 5th ready fire NW, NE, 500.
Have the 55th be in that nook at the edge and have it Move W, NW. If the enemy cavalry charges, Move back SE, E and charge the enemy cavalry if its still alive. the charging cavalry will trigger 3 medium range artillery shots, two of them with +30, one with advantage. If that doesnt rout them immedeatly, the charge from the 55th finishes the job.
repeat this until the enemy runs out of cavalry.
If the cavalry doesnt charge out, the 55th just charges and kills the artillery.
Have the lancers be on this hill, where artillery hits them with -70 because its long range and charge the enemy cavalry over the hills, where the lancers are covered by hill cover but the enemy cavalry isnt.
Have the 19th rapid move on the hill and shoot the enemy artillery.
They have rifles, so they shoot at close range and infantry only has a -10 malus.
Rapid move back into cover next turn before the enemy can catch you.
But of course first do a run where the 19th moves normally NE and directly rapidly moves back SW, to see if the cavalry gets triggered. if they do get triggered, shoot them with ready fires and multiple triggers. If they dont get triggered, do the shooting manouvre.
We could also concentrate our 5 cavalry on one side of the battlefield and overwhelm the enemy cavalry screen while they are still setting up, though thats a multi turn process and not a snappy, two turn max manouvre.
There are of course other strategies too to deal with this, but we wont really be facing a built up formation like this while doing most of them because its easier to raid unscreened artillery while they are not yet set up
In essence, the type of battle you describe here gives him a fighting chance, and a victory condition which does not require actually assaulting our dug in infantry. All plans have their weaknesses, yours included.
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Fortress Rotholz:
The plan fortifies the Rotholz Turm tile, making it nearly unassailable in melee and nearly invincible to ranged attacks from the Northwest.
Additionally, 3 artilleries, including both experienced ones are able to shoot at anything approaching from the Northwest.
This means that we output like 25 cohesion damage per turn against an melee assault, while the enemy cannot deal more than 3 per turn.
This means that the human regiments can easily outlast the entire enemy infantry charging the position, with the 10 enemy infantry regiments routing before our defending human regiment does if there are no crits from them.
The plan is that Von Trotha Sees that he can assault us with infantry and artillery and does do this frontal assault, where we chew him up and kill 5 soldiers for every 1 soldier we lose, likely causing the enemy around 1000 casualties+ stragglers shot during their retreat.
There are two alternatives Von Trotha could take:
He could assault from the east instead, where there are no fortifications and cover and only the 5th can reliably do fire support, with the 31st doing some chip damage(around 1 per turn)
If Von Trotha actually puts his entire artillery corps into the east he could likely dislodge us from Rotholz that way, though it would take a lot of time for him to get that artillery there.
If he doesn't, there will be a brutal melee in the forest, where the 200th and 19th fight the 10 enemy regiments with +0 shots from the 5th shooting at the enemy.
I haven't calculated what the effects of that is, I would expect that we lose maybe 400 of a bit more elite infantry for 1000 of theirs? This really depends on how much artillery Von Trotha Brings to the fight.
There is also the option for Von Trotha to bypass the Rotholz Fortress entirely, moving through the Räuberwald. This would win him the battle, but is generally seen as something he would need to be a genius to notice.
Plan Fortress Kinzberg/Valley Outpost
These two plans are "sibling plans" that are very similar to each other, so I will describe their many communalities first and explain their differences then.
The plans center the defenses around Hochschloss Kinzberg, fortifying it and turning it invincible to melee attack(the rival plan maker confirms that it is impossible to melee assault) and nearly invincible to ranged attack.
Hallfing skirmishers and guillorys hussars are placed in the west, where they have the task of skirmishing with the enemy / moving behind them/ being a threat against assaults against the center fort.
In the east, the 5th, some screens and our cavalry set up to contest anything moving into the eastern valley, either fighting the enemy there or being able to move into center if needed, depending on the tactical situation.
The plan is that Von Trotha attacks us because he is on a timer, with the 6th army coming in a day. He has various ways to do that approach, I have covered all of them I can see in my plan post and the goal is to use our incredible strong defensive position to react to whatever he is doing and prevent it. That usually involves the fact that our artillery line cannot really be cracked, with all important unit in very strong ranged cover, which allows us to win artillery exchanges while we are superior in the other two branches.
Plan Fortress Kinzberg has a bit more aggressive initial cavalry placement and puts a line of 5 breastwork into the center fortress, Plan Valley Outpost has a bit less aggressive initial cavalry placement and 4 breastworks in the center fortress instead, with one wolf hole being placed in the east to make it harder for the enemy to do cavalry operations there.
Not sure if something else is unclear ?
The plan fortifies the Rotholz Turm tile, making it nearly unassailable in melee and nearly invincible to ranged attacks from the Northwest.
Additionally, 3 artilleries, including both experienced ones are able to shoot at anything approaching from the Northwest.
This means that we output like 25 cohesion damage per turn against an melee assault, while the enemy cannot deal more than 3 per turn.
This means that the human regiments can easily outlast the entire enemy infantry charging the position, with the 10 enemy infantry regiments routing before our defending human regiment does if there are no crits from them.
The plan is that Von Trotha Sees that he can assault us with infantry and artillery and does do this frontal assault, where we chew him up and kill 5 soldiers for every 1 soldier we lose, likely causing the enemy around 1000 casualties+ stragglers shot during their retreat.
There are two alternatives Von Trotha could take:
He could assault from the east instead, where there are no fortifications and cover and only the 5th can reliably do fire support, with the 31st doing some chip damage(around 1 per turn)
If Von Trotha actually puts his entire artillery corps into the east he could likely dislodge us from Rotholz that way, though it would take a lot of time for him to get that artillery there.
If he doesn't, there will be a brutal melee in the forest, where the 200th and 19th fight the 10 enemy regiments with +0 shots from the 5th shooting at the enemy.
I haven't calculated what the effects of that is, I would expect that we lose maybe 400 of a bit more elite infantry for 1000 of theirs? This really depends on how much artillery Von Trotha Brings to the fight.
There is also the option for Von Trotha to bypass the Rotholz Fortress entirely, moving through the Räuberwald. This would win him the battle, but is generally seen as something he would need to be a genius to notice.
Plan Fortress Kinzberg/Valley Outpost
These two plans are "sibling plans" that are very similar to each other, so I will describe their many communalities first and explain their differences then.
The plans center the defenses around Hochschloss Kinzberg, fortifying it and turning it invincible to melee attack(the rival plan maker confirms that it is impossible to melee assault) and nearly invincible to ranged attack.
Hallfing skirmishers and guillorys hussars are placed in the west, where they have the task of skirmishing with the enemy / moving behind them/ being a threat against assaults against the center fort.
In the east, the 5th, some screens and our cavalry set up to contest anything moving into the eastern valley, either fighting the enemy there or being able to move into center if needed, depending on the tactical situation.
The plan is that Von Trotha attacks us because he is on a timer, with the 6th army coming in a day. He has various ways to do that approach, I have covered all of them I can see in my plan post and the goal is to use our incredible strong defensive position to react to whatever he is doing and prevent it. That usually involves the fact that our artillery line cannot really be cracked, with all important unit in very strong ranged cover, which allows us to win artillery exchanges while we are superior in the other two branches.
Plan Fortress Kinzberg has a bit more aggressive initial cavalry placement and puts a line of 5 breastwork into the center fortress, Plan Valley Outpost has a bit less aggressive initial cavalry placement and 4 breastworks in the center fortress instead, with one wolf hole being placed in the east to make it harder for the enemy to do cavalry operations there.
Not sure if something else is unclear ?
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I am not sure how you get cavalry heavy manoeuvre battle where his artillery can hit ours from what I described? I made sure to prevent exactly that, with our artillery never staying in range of enemy artillery and enemy cavalry immediately being blasted whenever it tries to interfere with our own artillery.
It's like the opposite of manoeuvre nearly? With the enemy cavalry being unable to move and our own cavalry being super constrained in its movement.
Keep in mind, if his artillery does ready fire to try catching our cavalry, that means that they aren't firing on our position, which is time the 10th can use to destroy more of his artillery batteries
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Only observation, and I'm sure it's a typo, is that Valley Outpost puts Wolf Holes in the hill gap in the east to create more rough terrain, not breastworks.
Your plan did involve baiting out his cavalry using our cavalry, right? I fail to see how this is possible without risking our cavalry? Seems like it could become a game of chicken, where both sides try to lure out, catch and destroy the other sides' cavalry. If we don't use our cavalry, we can't threaten his artillery while they set up.
My plan (Plan Valley Fortress) is based on the following observations:
- Von Trotha has a terrifying amount of high quality artillery, which can really hamper our ability to maneuver if allowed to setup
- Von Trotha has arguably better cavalry than us, but is expected to mostly use it to screen his cannons. This prevents us from easily going after his artillery with our cavalry.
- We have better quality infantry than Von Trotha, so any infantry-infantry engament without artillery support is likely to go our way.
Due to these facts, I propose setting up most of our troops in the Eastern valley. The position has:
- cover from artillery by the hills around (Rotholz) and the Forest in the North, limiting the usefulness of his artillery.
- a foothold in the Rotholz fortress, from which a Pathfinder unit can control a lot of space
- artillery fire control of both Rotholz forest and the center, allowing us to bloody any enemy attempt to take Rotholz
- two fallback positions, one right behind the fortress, another back in our deployment zone.
The plan is to skirmish/shoot from the forward position in the fortress, then retreat the halflings from there once needed. Hopefully the real clash will happen between infantry in the valley/hills, where our superior infantry can shine and our horse artillery fires at short range.
The only weakness of the plan I can identify is that the reserve position in our deployment zone is only defended by two units of infantry. Thus, if he goes all in, bypasses Rotholz and rushes that position, we could be in trouble. However, such a bold move is not in character for him, and would not come without warning, we would see it coming and could maneuver to meet him. If he does not contest Rotholz, he also risks us taking the Center and counter-attacking in the East.
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Treathening his artillery while he sets up is different from attacking it once set up. While it is setting up we would amass all of our cavalry in a deathstack and gank whatever is most vulnerable, with 5 cavalry overwhelming their 2 cavalry cover and then destroying their artillery.
After they are set up, we do lure out his cavalry without using cavalry, but we rely on the fact that his bombardement of Kinzstein is super slow even at medium range, where we can vary up our attacks. This means that von Trotha either means to permanently have his artillery on ready fire, which prevents us from raiding him but also prevents him from shooting us and we are slowly destroying his artillery with the 10th, so thats a losing strategy, or he does not put up ready fire, at which point we can bait out his cavalry and usually plan to walk in a way where the enemy cavalry gets multiple shots in the face and routs before actually reaching our baiting cavalry.
But yeah, its a game of chicken, except we win automatically if nobody blinks because we are destroying his artillery with the 10th one by one and he cant do anything against that.
Though yeah, if we mismanage cavalry threat or trigger the infantry charge before he is weakened enough we will get unneeded casualties which can hurt quite a bit.
If any cavalry ends its turn exposed in the center it will just die, both for us and for the enemy.
I get the idea, I really do. Although I do want to point out that if he is competent, he moves his artillery up gradually, so that each cannon that is moving into position or setting up is covered by two cannons that are setup further away, outside our range.
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That makes his movement even slower tho. It also means that he needs through the open middle, because in the sides his artillery cannot cover in the rough terrain, and if he is slow in the middle we do grind him down with -20 shots from the 10th and 5th
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Yes.
Like, 10 in the morning? Night battles are not that complicated, anyway - visibility is just shit.
That's fine, but I'd prefer at least a general description in text of where everyone's going ("these guys on this flank near this place") to go along with it, exactly for image loss reasons.
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Also, someone kindly collected various rulings and revisions after Brutet that I've made but haven't yet put into the mechanics post. I cannot seem to find it anymore. Please help me find that post so I can make a better Info post.
This post?
Daurstein: Round 0
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After the dreadful business of commanding the battle of Brutet from a water-logged tent, you are pleased to be situated, this time, on the commanding heights of the imposing Kinzberg hochschloss. The manor is a stout and extravagantly furnished arrangement, squatting over several hills, with the highest holding the main building of the mansion itself. You leave your tent to share a few bottles of wine with your officers and General Guillory on its grand balcony. The fine marble floor is soon stained with lingering mud from a dozen soldiers' boots.
You've seen a fair number of manors by now, but Kinzberg may just take the cake. It swims in luxury, even if much has evidently been evacuated from the path of your soldiers before you arrived. What a way to live! You will never understand the aristocratic mind. All this space for a handful of souls, when it is evidently big enough to house a regiment of soldiers. The manor's occupants evidently packed up and left when news of von Wachenheim's defeat arrived. The barred and locked doors did not open to your knock, but they did open to your cannon. They can send the bill to the King of Norn, all you care.
The guns of the 10th Human and 84th Elven batteries are dug into the slopes and the terraced gardens below, while raised earthen walls form battlements for your infantry up ahead. The rest of your force is arranged around the manor and on the flanks, ready to receive von Trotha's assault and respond appropriately.
Von Trotha's host is hardly in view. The woods in the distance have swallowed up the bulk of his force, with only some dwarven infantry visible by the road. You doubt they have any better understanding of your position.
"Well, then," you say, hopping onto a lacquered wooden table with your wine glass in hand. The table groans under your weight. "Here we are again. How are you feeling, citizens? Eager for battle? As you should be. Along that road are some twelve thousand angry Nornishmen, come to dislodge us from our rightful spoils. I certainly do not intend to part with a single thaler."
There are a few cheers and a few more chuckles from the assembled officers. A few of them hoist up loot they've ransacked from the rooms of this very manor. You've not partaken, but you're not about to censure anyone for stealing from the rich.
"Listen well," you say, dropping to a more severe tone, "and know that Arné looks to us all. Norn thought that our Nation lay defenseless before them, hobbled and weak courtesy of their puppet king. The price of their arrogance is untold dead drowned in the mud of Brutet, but that is only the beginning. We will bleed them again this day. They sought to conquer us, to subject us to the boot of their crowned tyrant, yet we advance on every front. The Army of the People marches on Nornish soil. If I were their king, I'd be fast losing my appetite. The glutton finds us a bite too tough to swallow, and we will make him choke on it!"
A much louder cheer. You wait for it to subside.
"Now go to your men. You have your orders. You know why you are here. Make sure every soldier fighting under your flag knows the same! For Arné, for the Revolution, for glory!"
It seems to go down well. Some of the nearer artillery crews join in on the cheering, your voice evidently carrying down to them as well. Your officers hurry out and to their units. The time for talk is done. Battle awaits.
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BATTLE OF DAURSTEIN, ROUND 0
+Primary Objective: Defeat the Army of the Centre.
Enemy 31st Dwa spotted!BATTLE OF DAURSTEIN, ROUND 0
+Primary Objective: Defeat the Army of the Centre.
Orders
Vote by plan, please!
200th Hobgoblin Fusiliers Regiment:
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72nd Human Regiment of Foot:
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148th Human Regiment of Foot:
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42nd Elven Regiment of Foot:
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45th Elven Regiment of Foot:
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251st Hobgoblin Fusiliers Regiment:
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16th Halfling Pathfinders Regiment:
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19th Halfling Pathfinders Regiment:
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28th Halfling Pathfinders Regiment:
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55th Elven Hussars Regiment:
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108th Elven Hussars Regiment:
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13th Hobgoblin Lancers Regiment:
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84th Elven Artillery Battery:
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10th Human Artillery Battery:
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31st Elven Artillery Battery:
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5th Hobgoblin Horse Artillery Battery:
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Orders for Guillory's Hussars?
[] Write-in.
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Our Units
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| 251st Hob. | 4/5, Trained | 1000/1000 | 14/14 | +0 | 10/10 | 5/5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Cabot Musket Bayonets | Hobgoblin | Veka Bonheur Watchful | |||||||
| 10th Hum Art. | 1/20, Experienced | 50/50 | 26/26 | +30 | 10/10 | 5/5 | 3 | 3 | 1 | Field Artillery | Human | David Granger Offensive Genius | |||||||
| 200th Hob. | 0/20, Professional | 1000/1000 | 16/16 | +20 | 10/10 | 5/5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Cabot Musket Bayonets | Hobgoblin | Alho Kléber Offensive Genius | |||||||
| 72nd Hum. | 5/10, Professional | 1000/1000 | 25/25 | +20 | 10/10 | 5/5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Cabot Musket Bayonets | Human | Gereon Oberlin Teacher | |||||||
| 148th Hum. | 2/3, Trained | 1000/1000 | 23/23 | +0 | 10/10 | 4/5 | 3 | 3 | 3 | Cabot Musket Bayonets | Human | Liberté Chastain Inspiring | |||||||
| 42nd Elv. | 0/20, Regular | 1000/1000 | 15/15 | +10 | 10/10 | 5/5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | Cabot Musket Bayonets | Elven | M. de Montmorency Unsteady | |||||||
| 45th Elv. | 2/20, Regular | 1000/1000 | 18/18 | +10 | 10/10 | 4/5 | 3 | 5 | 3 | Cabot Musket Bayonets | Elven | Jean de Sangeaux Maverick | |||||||
| 16th Half. Pfd. | 0/10, Regular | 1000/1000 | 14/14 | +0 | 10/10 | 3/5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | Falke Rifle Bayonets | Halfling | Maïwen Firmin Butcher | |||||||
| 19th Half. Pfd. | 3/10, Regular | 1000/1000 | 15/15 | +10 | 10/10 | 3/5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | Canard Rifle Bayonets | Halfling | Sophie Tasse Rapid | |||||||
| 28th Half. Pfd. | 3/10, Regular | 1000/1000 | 15/15 | +10 | 10/10 | 4/5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | Canard Rifle Bayonets | Halfling | Georges Villiers Unsteady | |||||||
| 55th Elv. Hsr. | 4/20, Regular | 500/500 | 15/15 | +10 | - | 2/5 | 3 | 5 | 9 | Sabres | Elven | Berenice de Toucy Defensive Genius | |||||||
| 108th Elv. Hsr. | 10/40, Professional | 500/500 | 16/16 | +20 | - | 2/5 | 2 | 5 | 9 | Sabres | Elven | Augustin de Goyon Loud | |||||||
| 13th Hob. Lan. | 1/10, Regular | 500/500 | 15/15 | +10 | - | 0/5 | 2 | 3 | 7 | Lances | Hobgoblin | Karo Bonnaire Optimist | |||||||
| 84th Elv. Art. | 8/20, Regular | 50/50 | 15/15 | +10 | 10/10 | 5/5 | 3 | 7 | 1 | Field Artillery | Elven | Jules de Maistre Watchful | |||||||
| 31st Elv. Art. | 10/20, Regular | 50/50 | 15/15 | +10 | 12/12 | 7/7 | 3 | 5 | 1 | Field Artillery | Elven | Marie de Lamartine Logistician | |||||||
| 5th Hob. H. Art. | 24/40, Experienced | 50/50 | 17/17 | +30 | 8/8 | 3/3 | 3 | 3 | 5 | Horse Artillery | Hobgoblin | Arka Faucher Careless | |||||||
| HQ | - | - | - | - | 165 | 106 | - | - | 1 |
Bayonets, Sabres: Wounding +0
Lances: Wounding +1, Concealment -1, Movement -2, additional Charge Advantage
Cabot Musket: Wounding +0, Range 100m/200m/400m
Field Artillery: Wounding 3, Range 200m/700m/1400m
Canard Rifle: Wounding +0, Range 200m/300m/500m
Falke Rifle: Wounding +1, Range 100m/300m/500m
Horse Artillery: Wounding +2, Movement +4, Range 200m/600m/1200m
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Enemy Units
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| HM's 1st Elv Hsr | Professional | 500/500 | ?/? | +20 | ? | 3 | 5 | 9 | Sabres | Elven Cavalry | Demoralizing | ||||||||
| 1st Roy Elv Lan | Professional | 500/500 | ?/? | +20 | ? | 2 | 5 | 7 | Lances | Elven Cavalry | Butcher | ||||||||
| Son 8th Elv Hsr | Trained | 500/500 | ?/? | +0 | ? | 3? | 5? | 9 | Sabres | Elven Cavalry | ? | ||||||||
| Son 9th Elv Hsr | Trained | 500/500 | ?/? | +0 | ? | 3? | 5? | 9 | Sabres | Elven Cavalry | ? | ||||||||
| Mrk Nym Rng | Professional | 910/1000 | ?/? | +20 | ? | ? | 3 | 3 | 3 | Falke Rifle Bayonets | Nymph | Feared | |||||||
| Ott 4th Hum | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 3? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Human | ? | |||||||
| Ott 17th Hum | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 3? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Human | ? | |||||||
| Ott 109th Hob | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 3? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Hobgoblin | ? | |||||||
| Wür 15th Dwa | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 3? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Dwarven | ? | |||||||
| Wür 31st Dwa | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 3? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Dwarven | ? | |||||||
| Wür 33rd Dwa | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 3? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Dwarven | ? | |||||||
| Neu 20th Dwa | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 3? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Dwarven | ? | |||||||
| Neu 155th Elv | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 5? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Elven | ? | |||||||
| Son 74th Elv | Trained | 1000/1000 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 5? | 3 | Erlkönig Musket Bayonets | Elven | ? | |||||||
| 28th Elv Art | Experienced | 50/50 | ?/? | +30 | ? | ? | 3? | 5? | 1 | Field Artillery | Elven Artillery | ? | |||||||
| 60th Elv Art | Regular | 50/50 | ?/? | +10 | ? | ? | 3? | 5? | 1 | Field Artillery | Elven Artillery | ? | |||||||
| 66th Elv Art | Regular | 50/50 | ?/? | +10 | ? | ? | 3? | 5? | 1 | Field Artillery | Elven Artillery | ? | |||||||
| 75th Elv Art | Professional | 50/50 | ?/? | +20 | ? | ? | 3? | 5? | 1 | Field Artillery | Elven Artillery | ? | |||||||
| Prov. Elv Art | Regular | 50/50 | ?/? | +10 | ? | ? | 3 | 5 | 1 | Field Artillery | Elven Artillery | Offensive Genius | |||||||
| Hum Vol Art | Trained | 50/50 | ?/? | +0 | ? | ? | 3? | 3? | 1 | Field Artillery | Elven Artillery | ? | |||||||
| 14th Elv H Art | Experienced | 50/50 | ?/? | +30 | ? | ? | 3? | 5? | 5 | Horse Artillery | Elven Artillery | ? |
Erlkönig Musket: Wounding +0, Range 100m/200m/400m
Falke Rifle: Wounding +1, Range 100m/300m/500m
Lances: Wounding +1, Concealment -1, Movement -2, additional Charge Advantage
Field Artillery: Wounding 3, Range 200m/700m/1400m
Horse Artillery: Wounding +2, Movement +4, Range 200m/600m/1200m
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DocMatoi
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Gods but I love our girl.
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Added more mechanics to the mechanics post (though it could be even more comprehensive) and a bit to the lore post too about fantastical beasts and how to inflict megafauna extinction on them.
DocMatoi
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Oh, well that's depressing
Yeah I really like how her personality is shaping up to be.
As for the battle, looking at it with a fresh set of eyes, I don't dislike the setup we ended up choosing. Our center is so strong that I doubt he will do a frontal assault, instead I expect him to pressure our flanks. Without control of our flanks, he cannot move his artillery close enough for an effective bombardment of our strong center. Thus I think we should focus on securing our flanks, most of the fighting will likely happen there.
DocMatoi
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Can he even see our flanks? All our units are fair well hidden- though I suppose the manor is The Obvious Command Post, and the breastworks are probably more visible than the kin within them. Which would make von trothas only options to either go to the flanks or Cold Harbor himself
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@Photomajig
is it correct that the 84th cannot see anyhing except the 31st dwarves with it 8 spotting? So the eastern Elchshain is empty cause the enemy doesnt have anything with 6 concealment or he has a hidden halfling spec ops with + concealment?
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Red Rationalist
Spinning in eternity
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Units on hills can't look trough units before them, as established before.
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Oh yeah!
We should do a quick swap to out one of the elven units into the trenches then to make sure we have a guarantees 5 spotting on the center no matter what we do with the hussars I think.
To make sure units on the hills are always seen by us even if we have to hide the cavalry
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The 251st Hobs have 5 spotting, same as the elves. Also, it's not like there is cover or hiding would mean anything in the centre, this plan literally just revolves staying in position and hoping the enemy comes towards us.
Edit: Actually, their stats haven't been adjusted in the list. @Photomajig : Could you correct the 251st spotting to 5 (3 +2 watchful)? This could cause an error if frontline spotting becomes relevant.
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Oh yeah, I didnt think about the 251st.
Though having that spotting is absolutely important, It gives us vision on a lot of the hills surrounding the road.
Thats not that important at the start of the battle, where we can just move the units in the trenchworks out of the way to give the 84h full vision, but once the trenches need to be filled we want that spotter if the enemy puts artillery on hills like he may do