I feel that option 2 is the right one, but people do raise valid concerns that the Exaltation related stunts won't lead to the best results. If someone came up with a different set of stunts for option 2, I might once again cast my vote for it.
Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 6: Fatal Fires Flagrantly Fry Frantic Friends, Family
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Gromweld
Learning By Mistake
Just remembered I wanted to reply to this.sun tzu said:
I've been using the core book rules here. Those four dots you see next to each Intimacy? That's the [Conviction] number of scenes/events you need to establish or destroy an Intimacy. If it hasn't been established (the red Intimacies on the character sheet) then it's not affecting your thoughts.
Once an Intimacy hits four dots, it becomes Established and plays into your actions/feelings as per the normal rules. Until, that is, [Conviction] non-consecutive scenes/events reduce the Intimacy, and you don't have any intervening scenes that would strengthen it - at which point it goes away completely and has to be re-established from scratch.
Yeah, but why did we lose two dots of Intimacy toward Danny in a single week of, well, of adjusting?Gromweld said:
FunkyEntropy
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Oh, OK. Looks like the issue was miscommunication, which I'm willing to take the blame for. Just to put it down simply so that we're both 100% on the same page...Gromweld said:
Anima's targeting (who gets hit by it): Everyone and everything, no discrimination between friend or foe.
Arnima's effects: Anything involving action directed at/towards Taylor - looking at her, standing near her, attacking her, etc. carries a penalty that takes WP to resist or some other detrimental effect.
Gromweld
Learning By Mistake
You mean the previous week? When he was sitting in jail a few floors below you the whole time? And you only even THOUGHT about visiting him on the weekend, at the tail end of it? Instead of, you know, taking one interval every day to sit and talk with your father through both of your changing lives?sun tzu said:
You guys left Danny to rot for a week while you played with your toys, during the time when there may or may not have been people feeding him poisonous information about 'the new you'. I decreased it by one dot that week, by the way - the second dot was lost yesterday when you reflected about how he nearly abandoned you when your mother died, and didn't seem much better since all this started. The third dot was today, when he just tried to kill you.
Gromweld
Learning By Mistake
Correct.FunkyEntropy said:
Whoops. Let me fix that.DragonBard said:
You're very silly if you expect me to answer these right now.DragonBard said:
BobTheNinja
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Alrght, before we do anything else regarding stunts, we need to make a decision which action to take. I don't believe that taking on Behemoth with only the Triumvirate is a viable option, so I'm focusing on two options:
Either we start teleporting capes around Behemoth's current path to intercept him right now, even though that gives our forces less time to recover, organize and respond effectively. We might get assistance from the other "monster", either Lung or Echidna, but it would still be a chaotic battle.
OR
We teleport our people to Winslow High School to set up a more prepared defense, at the cost of letting Behemoth rampage through part of the city. More capes will probably be saved with this option, and will likely be more effective against Behemoth, but it will likely also allow greater civilian casualties and damage to the city in the meantime.
I'm leaning toward the latter option, to be honest. We may stop Behemoth earlier with the first option, but we'll lose more capes. I don't want more civilians to die of course, but losing more capes could prove to be a more serious blow over the long term.
Either we start teleporting capes around Behemoth's current path to intercept him right now, even though that gives our forces less time to recover, organize and respond effectively. We might get assistance from the other "monster", either Lung or Echidna, but it would still be a chaotic battle.
OR
We teleport our people to Winslow High School to set up a more prepared defense, at the cost of letting Behemoth rampage through part of the city. More capes will probably be saved with this option, and will likely be more effective against Behemoth, but it will likely also allow greater civilian casualties and damage to the city in the meantime.
I'm leaning toward the latter option, to be honest. We may stop Behemoth earlier with the first option, but we'll lose more capes. I don't want more civilians to die of course, but losing more capes could prove to be a more serious blow over the long term.
Has anyone suggested getting an Alchemical Exaltation for Glory Girl yet? Isn't their some kind of Hero/Leader class she would fit fairly well? I only ask cause I just read the update and don't want to trawl through 12 pages to find out.
BobTheNinja
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Unfortuntately, Glory Girl was vaporized in the current fight, so that question is moot.ShadowAngelBeta said:
Umm, huh?Gromweld said:
I'm fine with him displaying the attitude 'attack Taylor attitude' by the way, but a single week isn't really that much time. Taylor just had her life ripped out from under her, and was quite literally doing half a dozen things trying to get her footing. We visited him once during that time (From what I see). Considering the wildly different schedules, and their relationships pre-death, this isn't that bad.
Gromweld said:
The bolded isn't quite fair to us Gromweld. The option to talk to our Dad was only explicitly given out to us on the Friday of that week, 2 or 3 days before the assassination attempt. The general thread consensus to blow all of Sunday on Meditation before speaking with Danny though? While that can be laid at the feet of the thread, they were a number of us that argued against that. Once again, you are not being quite fair.DragonBard said:
BobTheNinja
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Anyway, guys, can we PLEASE save discussion regarding Danny for later? We need to make a decision on our upcoming strategy.
.IronSun.
I don't descriminate, I hate all of you equally.
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Agreed. While the last two weeks have been Hell for Danny ours hasn't been exactly a walk in the park, and we can slap the stupid out of him AFTER we deal with the walking Armageddon destroying our town.BobTheNinja said:
you know, that place our Purpose is focused on? Kind of hard to bring peace and order to a pile of crushed bones and nuclear fallout.
I like the bug clone stunt for option 3. Our armor can only take 1 or 2 more lightning bolts before it starts losing functionality and we are effectively incapacitated.
Gromweld
Learning By Mistake
Unfortunately, this would be a valid argument if I didn't allow write-ins. Case-in-point: write-ins for visiting Danny were proposed EVERY VOTE for that week, but were consistently ignored by the thread. Other write-ins have won the popular vote at other times, so I feel justified in holding the thread responsible for losing one dot of the Intimacy for a week.landcollector said:
As well, no Stunts or Votes have ever been dedicated towards trying to strengthen the Intimacy on your own through reflection - taking a quiet moment to remember the good times you had with him, for example - when I KNOW there are people in this thread that are aware of that possible course of action, since it's in the book. Heck, this is still something you can still do!
Well, not RIGHT NOW, because Clarity and Behemoth, but you get what I mean.
BobTheNinja
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Indeed. Repeating what I said earlier, I believe these are our two best options:.IronSun. said:
1.) We start teleporting capes around Behemoth's current path to intercept him right now, even though that gives our forces less time to recover, organize and respond effectively. We might get assistance from the other "monster", either Lung or Echidna, but it would still be a chaotic battle.
OR
2.) We teleport our people to Winslow High School to set up a more prepared defense, at the cost of letting Behemoth rampage through part of the city. More capes will probably be saved with this option, and will likely be more effective against Behemoth, but it will likely also allow greater civilian casualties and damage to the city in the meantime.
In either case, our main focus should be coordinating the cape teams while avoiding getting ganked by Behemoth. We need to decide which takes higher priority: greater cape casualties and less civilian casualties, or greater civilian casualties and less cape casualties.
Well, damn.BobTheNinja said:
As callous as it sounds, we should prioritize capes (Option 2). The city may suffer catastrophic damage that way, but if we can drive off Behemoth relatively quickly with a concerted response, the remainder of the city be spared, or might not. A chance exists, though. With Number 1 here, we mount a strung out ineffective response that will likely lead to unsustainable cape casualties. That means we would lack the power and numbers to stop him from completing his hypothesized objective of destroying the Cradle and the city dies for certain.BobTheNinja said:
BobTheNinja
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NO!! This is LITERALLY NOT POSSIBLE! I already made this very clear this earlier!Solitary_01 said:
Weaver and the Triumvirate will not be able to stop Behemoth by themselves, especially with Eidolon down.hunter09 said:
[X] "We could hear Behemoth tearing through the city, but we were too disorganized and reeling to do anything. Weaver was there, though, and within only a few minutes we had rallied and teleported to that High School for a last stand."
-[X] Stunt: Allocate all available Blasters, Movers and Brutes to harass and distract Behemoth. Using Shard of Perfect Administration and bug clones, have the Blasters and Movers coordinate their efforts to minimize cape casualties. When Behemoth is off balance or focusing on attacking the Blasters and Movers, plan to have the Brutes strike at Behemoth to topple him. Give orders to a number of the remaining teleporters to keep watch over the Brutes and Behemoth, 'porting out any brutes that he turns his attention towards.
-[X] Stunt: Allocate all available Tinkers and Shakers to fortify the high school before Behemoth arrives. Have any remaining teleporters bodyguard the Thinkers assisting in coordinating the battle, ready to teleport them to a safer location should Behemoth begin showing hostile intent towards them. Tecton will set up first to prevent, detect and counter any tunneling attacks.
XP Spending
[X] Athletics (4 XP)
[X] Dodge (4 XP)
[X] War (Swarms ●●●) (2XP)
The 1st stunt here could use some work. It's the best I can think up though. I WANT SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT, PLEASE!
-[X] Stunt: Allocate all available Blasters, Movers and Brutes to harass and distract Behemoth. Using Shard of Perfect Administration and bug clones, have the Blasters and Movers coordinate their efforts to minimize cape casualties. When Behemoth is off balance or focusing on attacking the Blasters and Movers, plan to have the Brutes strike at Behemoth to topple him. Give orders to a number of the remaining teleporters to keep watch over the Brutes and Behemoth, 'porting out any brutes that he turns his attention towards.
-[X] Stunt: Allocate all available Tinkers and Shakers to fortify the high school before Behemoth arrives. Have any remaining teleporters bodyguard the Thinkers assisting in coordinating the battle, ready to teleport them to a safer location should Behemoth begin showing hostile intent towards them. Tecton will set up first to prevent, detect and counter any tunneling attacks.
XP Spending
[X] Athletics (4 XP)
[X] Dodge (4 XP)
[X] War (Swarms ●●●) (2XP)
The 1st stunt here could use some work. It's the best I can think up though. I WANT SUGGESTIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT, PLEASE!
BobTheNinja
Sword of Possibility
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Obviously if Behemoth reaches Iris, assuming he can actually destroy it, that would be extremely bad for us, possibly a game over. So we're going to do everything possible to prevent that.Solitary_01 said:
What do you think of my post right above yours Bob?BobTheNinja said:
Removing my Occult vote and putting in Athletics instead.