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A small fish in a infinite sea (SI).

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he should get some undead summons while their, because I think they aren't intelligent, and summoning zombies is different then animating corpses, also, wonder what period it is, might be during the RTS era, that would mean that the Litch king hasn't become a thing yet.
 
TheForgottenOne said:
Why did you get rid of the useful device that acted like a universal translator?
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What useful device? The only device I remember him having that had translation functions is the omni-tool, and that explicitly requires up to date language files to work.
 
TheForgottenOne said:
Why did you get rid of the useful device that acted like a universal translator?
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It's in his omnitool. He still have the software for that. But it is not magic Star Trek tech...it need stuff to work on. As in hours if not days of conversation to analyze.

...And he need to actually turn it on. Something that would have been nice to think of before they arrived. :p
 
TheForgottenOne said:
Don't forget to get your hands on some grimories and magic tomes while your there.
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Make shure that you know who wrote it, there is some shit laying around that you don't want to touch.



A very usefull source of information might be the Naaru, but they are powerful enough to take him out and make it stick, so it might be risky.
 
Hiver said:
It's in his omnitool. He still have the software for that. But it is not magic Star Trek tech...it need stuff to work on. As in hours if not days of conversation to analyze.

...And he need to actually turn it on. Something that would have been nice to think of before they arrived. :p
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If only he could have stopped by trek and picked up one of their universal translators.
 
Hiver said:
It's in his omnitool. He still have the software for that. But it is not magic Star Trek tech...it need stuff to work on. As in hours if not days of conversation to analyze.

...And he need to actually turn it on. Something that would have been nice to think of before they arrived. :p
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That it needs time I can understand but that you have to turn it of is of is very strange.

Mostly because you indicated that you had some minor difficulties with languages in Westeros and in the decade you where there fiddling with everything on your omnitool you should have known about that function. If not you bought a very useful VI which when hearing an unknown language would engage a popup "you have encountered an unknown language do you want this unit to begin translating?".

I understand that you want a language barrier but try to portray yourself something better then an idiot. It is grating. Extremely grating. Because this fic and it's predecessor have literally you as a main character and card board cut-outs of cannon characters, making the focus you, your actions and consequenses. Now I have to say it works for you because you are picking the SB points of interest, except the fact that you are giving me the impression that your selfinsert is getting dumber with every fic.

Ah. I really needed to say that.
 
Fictiondevourer said:
That it needs time I can understand but that you have to turn it of is of is very strange.

Mostly because you indicated that you had some minor difficulties with languages in Westeros and in the decade you where there fiddling with everything on your omnitool you should have known about that function. If not you bought a very useful VI which when hearing an unknown language would engage a popup "you have encountered an unknown language do you want this unit to begin translating?".

I understand that you want a language barrier but try to portray yourself something better then an idiot. It is grating. Extremely grating. Because this fic and it's predecessor have literally you as a main character and card board cut-outs of cannon characters, making the focus you, your actions and consequenses. Now I have to say it works for you because you are picking the SB points of interest, except the fact that you are giving me the impression that your selfinsert is getting dumber with every fic.

Ah. I really needed to say that.
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You have some points, yes.

But there is something you need to keep in mind...he is still extremely exhausted, nap or not. He have also been walking through the Barrens all day, carrying a heavy backpack.

He is tired and hot. He is not going to think about everything instantly.


As for why ever turning it off...well, for one thing he have not needed it for ten years...
 
Hiver said:
As for why ever turning it off...well, for one thing he have not needed it for ten years...
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So? If he didn't need it then wouldn't it be more likely he would forget about it running in the background?

Even if he did remember it why would he turn it off?
 
UberJJK said:
So? If he didn't need it then wouldn't it be more likely he would forget about it running in the background?

Even if he did remember it why would he turn it off?
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Save power? Omnitools do need to be recharged, even if he do it with magic. Something like that constantly running and analyzing anything it hear would draw a good amount if left on constantly.

Which mean he dont need to recharge it as often. I would turn that shit off.
 
Hiver said:
You have some points, yes.

But there is something you need to keep in mind...he is still extremely exhausted, nap or not. He have also been walking through the Barrens all day, carrying a heavy backpack.

He is tired and hot. He is not going to think about everything instantly.

As for why ever turning it off...well, for one thing he have not needed it for ten years...
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I don't believe you. I literally cannot believe that on a continent larger the Europe where you played a (lowercase g) god you never encountered a language or accent which you didn't understand but wanted to know.

This is one of the many automatic features of an omni tool, which unless you are a wizard with ME tech should be permanently activated. Why because it fits ME lore that everyone can communicate which you passed on.

If you are mentioning problems which you should be able to handle with trivial ease you will be reminded by uss and you can decided what to do with it. But some things are so very basic that it breaks suspension of disbelief because this does not compute.

The fact that you are very tired but are not drowning in adrenaline with meeting the orcs can be blamed on the fact that you don't feel threatened by them. Very believable. Except for the fact you began to worry yourself in an aneurysm without thinking something practical. Indicating that as a character you have not undergone significant character growth in ten years.

So the answer is you are lazy with writing.(or at the very least that is what you are indicating to us) Which is a shame because in some other stories you at least give the impression of actions and consequences.
 
Fictiondevourer said:
This is one of the many automatic features of an omni tool, which unless you are a wizard with ME tech should be permanently activated. Why because it fits ME lore that everyone can communicate which you passed on.
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Yes. It is automatic. The normal translation is automatic. Between languages it already know. Not the heavy duty first contact software he had installed.

Why would he need that active while on a world like westeros? yes, there are different languages, but he would have had those solved and translated down within a year of taking king's landing.


Look, if you don't agree with my logic behind this, fine. But don't go accusing me for not thinking things through and for lazy writing.
 
Hiver said:
Save power? Omnitools do need to be recharged, even if he does it with magic. Something like that constantly running and analyzing anything it hears would draw use a good amount if left on constantly.

Which mean he don't needs to recharge it as often. I would turn that shit off.
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You land on a different plain and you do not activate your VI which can give you some basic information of things, could indicate that you have gone native with low tech. Except for the fact that for the last decade you must have depended on it's collection of knowledge. So you do turn it on when going on adventures even if it's for self-defense, information, distraction, a limited conversation partner or use it as a media center.
 
Hiver said:
Yes. It is automatic. The normal translation is automatic. Between languages it already know. Not the heavy duty first contact software he had installed.

Why would he need that active while on a world like westeros? yes, there are different languages, but he would have had those solved and translated down within a year of taking king's landing.

Look, if you don't agree with my logic behind this, fine. But don't go accusing me for not thinking things through and for lazy writing.
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So when Winter was done he manually deactivates the translating feature to save power while forgetting that you have a VI which will allocate resources as needed.

Thus when you militair grade AI detects unknown life forms, detects some kind of bladed weapons and records unknown sounds that seems like a unknown language. It does nothing?
 
Fictiondevourer said:
So when Winter was done he manually deactivates the translating feature to save power while forgetting that you have a VI which will allocate resources as needed.

Thus when you militair grade AI detects unknown life forms, detects some kind of bladed weapons and records unknown sounds that seems like a unknown language. It does nothing?
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It's a VI, not an AI. It does what he tells it. If he tells it to run the first contact software, it does that, regardless of whether or not it's currently needed. Which is why the first contact programs get closed after they're done working.
 
Do you turn your cell phone off whenever you're not making a call so you don't have to charge it as much?

Because turning leaving your omnitool off is even worse than that.
 
LockedKeye said:
It's a VI, not an AI. It does what he tells it. If he tells it to run the first contact software, it does that, regardless of whether or not it's currently needed. Which is why the first contact programs get closed after they're done working.
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The fact that Winter has an expensive military VI while not using it makes it such a waste. A VI works (how I think of it) under a very long list if A happens do B as standard. Being in a hostile situation with an unknown language should activate some flag automaticly begins with translating.

Reasonable assumptions about what a VI could do and should happen because why would anyone turn this of? I can understand turning of wifi because it is of no use but this is like deleting your app that warns for earthquakes while you are in an earthquake zone.

In essence Hiver for a person who has gone trough many many situations Winter feels like someone who hasn't changed from a normal earthling. Which is why I begin to nitpick.
 
Gear said:
Do you turn your cell phone off whenever you're not making a call so you don't have to charge it as much?

Because turning leaving your omnitool off is even worse than that.
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Do you let your mobile play music even if you are surfing wikipedia instead of listening?

It is just one program on his Omnitool, which he didn't even use for the last nine years.
 
I don't even want to think on what a Tardis would cost to summon.

And then there's getting it's essence, which might be capable of killing Hiver here.
 
Fictiondevourer said:
The fact that Winter has an expensive military VI while not using it makes it such a waste. A VI works (how I think of it) under a very long list if A happens do B as standard. Being in a hostile situation with an unknown language should activate some flag automaticly begins with translating.

Reasonable assumptions about what a VI could do and should happen because why would anyone turn this of? I can understand turning of wifi because it is of no use but this is like deleting your app that warns for earthquakes while you are in an earthquake zone.

In essence Hiver for a person who has gone trough many many situations Winter feels like someone who hasn't changed from a normal earthling. Which is why I begin to nitpick.
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It's still non-sentient. You are vastly overestimating it's abilities.
Gear said:
Do you turn your cell phone off whenever you're not making a call so you don't have to charge it as much?

Because turning leaving your omnitool off is even worse than that.
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Yes, actually. Although it would be more to the point to point out that he's not turning the omnitool off, he's turning off a rather complex program that's rarely needed.
 
LockedKeye said:
It's still non-sentient. You are vastly overestimating it's abilities.

Yes, actually. Although it would be more to the point to point out that he's not turning the omnitool off, he's turning off a rather complex program that's rarely needed.
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I am picturing as the omnitool having a many many abilities with the VI prioritizing and activating programs based on standard issue and on historical use of the user. Encountering a new language and activating program "begin translating language" is quite simple.

As it is now it is only a glorified search engine with a voice. Which in ME cannon it is with some added options. But really it is a military version so it should have some more capabilities that are useful, like doing the obvious without saying.
 
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