I just take it as retarded chainmail bikini effect. The Truth is written on the world, so the less you wear before being actually naked the more armored you are.
 
Astramancer said:
I'm reasonably certain it's more a case of:

physical full plate gives +10 armor.
MMO-style exposed armor gives +3 armor.
Magical Enhancement gives +50 armor.

While +60 is objectively better than +53, subjectively there's not much difference in protection, whereas there's a huge difference in comfort, and there's possibly a much greater cost in getting larger quantities of materials suitable for enchantment (and the potential that you can't just strap enchant-able panels onto otherwise mundane armor, it could be one of those all or nothing kind of deals)

note: numbers are made up
Hiver said:
Dawn nodded, "I asked my master about it back when he wanted me to pick out a set. As for heavier armor like plate... well, what kind of material depend on what kind of enchantments it can handle. Plate is good for protection and strength, cloth is the best when you handle magic. Leather is a good middle ground."

I raised my eyebrow at that, "Wouldn't it be better with more material to enchant?" I asked.

Ok, that explained exactly how it could protect her, but wouldn't it be stronger with... well, more of it?

She shook her head, "How much actual material there is don't matter that much. Actually, the better quality enchantment, the less material is needed."
Huh. Looks like you're right.
 
Mizuki_Stone said:
Have to say, I kind of saw this coming. Winter was getting, far to overconfident for his actual abilities. We've known he's been slacking in the power end of things for some time now. Focusing on the 'short term' of speeding up civilization in Westros. He's been going soft without facing genuine danger.

And now he's gotten a much needed kick in his pants. Though it's very sad that it cost him this much.
And now that their is no possible excuse for not becoming a badass and expanding his powers to the utmost... he'll move on to another fic. -_-
 
Everybody is getting on Dawn's case about how stupid she was to stay and help, but... These are people to her. She can't leave them any more than Hiver can leave her.
 
He really needs to get the essences of Cheatyface and Ashnod's Coupon. That's a great combo, especially when your ability to summon is limited only be mana cost.
 
Mr Zoat said:
Ashnod's Coupon plus R&D's Secret Lair works better.
Ideally, you'd play all three and your opponent would come back to the table, after paying for your drink out of his own pocket, to find 30,000 cheatyface cards on the table.
CKirk said:
...So it does. although I have to say, Krark's Thumb and Mana Screw? Hello, Gleemax!
Add Chance Encounter to that combo for true brokenness.

And Mox Lotus is the better choice for a mana generator if you intend to play Gleemax.
 
A sarcophagus would be able to revive her if he gets her to it quickly and if he can get her body through the Blind Eternities and if there isn't some mystical soul stuff ant gets screwed up by the transition. That's all big ifs.

He'd probably be better off using time dickery and cloning to save her Chrono Trigger style, if she doesn't have auto-resurrection. .
 
hyzmarca said:
A sarcophagus would be able to revive her if he gets her to it quickly and if he can get her body through the Blind Eternities and if there isn't some mystical soul stuff ant gets screwed up by the transition. That's all big ifs.

He'd probably be better off using time dickery and cloning to save her Chrono Trigger style, if she doesn't have auto-resurrection. .
she's a shaman... they get self rezzes pretty early on.

also he has white and black mana in abundance, both of which can rez the dead.
 
I don't recall it working better with less, though maybe less needed with better enchantment. The male armors would not work well with required tiny armors. On the other hand, if there's small difference in protection and lots in flexibility, it's a consideration. That said, armor is something people make, so it's probably optimized for the people likely to wear it. Magic folk will want Int and mana boosts, fighters will be more for stamina, strength, and such, etc. Skimpy armor for some types could also be part of that.

Also, the difference between good enchanted (stuff you'd keep and use) and low grade enchanted gear (the vendor trash) was magnitudes greater than the difference between cloth gear and plate gear without enchantment. Might be remembering wrong.
 
You know, if power does scale like it does for Hiver as opposed to how it does for the players in the game, I have to wonder why Planeswalkers are considered such hot shit that Glory is afraid of one just by recognizing their power type. Realistically, most Planeswalkers you run into shouldn't be that powerful under these rules.

Sure, they're strong but they're not 'hell goddess immediately surrenders and begs for mercy' powerful. They're just another strong thing, until they're like centuries old with hundreds or thousands of land.
 
Jiopaba said:
You know, if power does scale like it does for Hiver as opposed to how it does for the players in the game, I have to wonder why Planeswalkers are considered such hot shit that Glory is afraid of one just by recognizing their power type. Realistically, most Planeswalkers you run into shouldn't be that powerful under these rules.

Sure, they're strong but they're not 'hell goddess immediately surrenders and begs for mercy' powerful. They're just another strong thing, until they're like centuries old with hundreds or thousands of land.
They're supposed to be rare enough that if you meet one its going to be that old. Hiver meeting two others withing a short period of time is highly unusual.

Edit: although, statistics being what it is, it was bound to happen somewhere in the multiverse.
 
LockedKeye said:
They're supposed to be rare enough that if you meet one its going to be that old. Hiver meeting two others withing a short period of time is highly unusual.

Edit: although, statistics being what it is, it was bound to happen somewhere in the multiverse.
.. maybe planeswalkers are like magikarp/gyarados?

weak at first.. but once they get going everything in their path dies a horrible death?
 
It's also possible that Glory had a fear of pre-mending walkers. News isn't one of those things that travels quickly around the multiverse, and the only thing she may have heard about walkers may have been from when when they were gods. Now they're just super wizards. One man army, plane leveling super wizards, but super wizards none the less.
 
Astramancer said:
I suppose most of that is true enough that I don't mind arguing it. My point is more that Hiver's power level seems extremely disappointing given his 'reputation.' Hell, Mary technically was too.

In Westeros, Hiver was an out of context solution. In a world where most of the problems they face are along the lines of 'how do we crush a medieval army' of course Hiver would seem like a god. However, when he goes to a high fantasy world which is appropriately equipped to respond to Planeswalkers, he's nothing special.

And it's kind of disappointing. That Dawn died, because though Hiver calls himself a Planeswalker, he's still just a chump on the scales real planeswalkers play on. He's just the littlest baby, and the only reason he managed to deal with Mary was because she was even greener than him.
 
If Dawn cannot self-resurrect, Cloudsong would have to be immensely irresponsible to allow her to go on such a mission. Therefore, I will assume until proven otherwise that she can and will... and if she really can't, I will assume that Winter will find or make a way to kill Cloudsong permanently.
 
Prince Charon said:
If Dawn cannot self-resurrect, Cloudsong would have to be immensely irresponsible to allow her to go on such a mission. Therefore, I will assume until proven otherwise that she can and will... and if she really can't, I will assume that Winter will find or make a way to kill Cloudsong permanently.
Um not really. She was entirely competent in that mission and the circumstances that led to her easy death may not have been possible if not for Hiver Rouge like fail with his magic flaring.
 
When betaing takes longer than usual there are a few possible causes:
1. The update is longer than usual.
2. There are more mistakes than usual.
3. Something went wrong.

I'm hoping for 1 but could live with 2. And 2 out of 3 being normal is not bad odds.

Edit:
Ninja'd by the confirmation of 3.
 
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