Projectile
Thinking of Rabbits
- Location
- USA
It looks like Avecarn is ahead by 4 votes at the moment, if I didn't misread, so I think you can rest easy for this one.
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A Simple Transaction I
- Thread starter Rihaku
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- Original
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
He can probably tell if we lie about the Call. We're immune to it.
My idea is that we fully admit we've been doing this of our own free will. We just fudge our motivation to be getting stronger for vengeance against our true foe. We can probably just go through our litany of losses due to them to drive in why we're willing to go so far. (Entirely true, but leaves out the short-term goal of freeing the ring.)
We tried leaving to look for worthy opponents elsewhere after an incredibly close call, but outgrew them so quickly it became a farse. So we're returning to the temple to continue growing stronger, but this time from a safer position by joining the defense and letting our prey come to us. It will be a bit slower than attacking... but still far faster than trying to hunt outside, and be far safer, so we can ensure we will make it to having our vengeance. When we outscale the place we will leave and that will be that.
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SAVE gang need to lull the Selune posters into false sense of security. All for the purpose of saving Arete. Our precioussss Arete
Enohthree
Hypersane
Alternatively, we could have Gisena nullify one of their sigils before we apply it to ourselves? It not doing anything to give the game away + us immune to the call anyway would mean that we'd be safe unless anyone inspects even further, which we could probably mask by affixing it beneath the Evening Sky.
Letting them think they are providing us a service seems like it would be important in them thinking we don't have the right motivation to betray them, even if that's a deception.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
The issue is his Rank is high enough we aren't going to be able to pass blatant lies by him. So we need everything we say to at least be mostly true. I figure he can understand the motivation of vengeance, given his current life even a fleeting thought of it being taken away...
Better to just have our motivation be growing stronger and money to buy things to aid us in our greater quest.
And we can just state the ring can't offer us anything of value anyway, due to the path we have chosen for our vengeance precluding it. (Can't use two Rings.)
Basically, make the implication that all we were ever after was power, and we are happy to gain it aiding them rather than at their expense, now that we have a better understanding of our place than when we first arrived.
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- Location
- Omniverse #1345
I believe since we got the Chief Domain we've shrugged off the Call entirely. It's no longer on our char sheet.
I may be misremembering, though.
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Rihaku
The Internet
But if you guys take Avecarn you might have to snapbuy Stances that aren't fitting with your general strategy anyway! Is 4 Arete now really worth spending 14 Arete on Stances that won't pay off for several weeks/months?
- Location
- Pindorama
Meh, I think the risk is worth it. We've risked more for less anyway. For Hunger to be fine either way is actually a change of pace!
Nah, it refined and clarified the Call but we didn't vote for the bonus at the end of Red of Sky and Fang that would've allowed us to ignore the Rank debuff entirely, so we're still at -0.25 outside the Temple. Imagine how bad it must be for your average moonbrain!
(insert the Yes Chad meme, but as Hunger here)
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I have a theory as to why Selune is so expensive: evidence points to her being a perfect Azure Ringbearer. Her name means "Moon" in two languages, just like we renamed ourselves to Hunger. Her Evocation is The Lunar, expressing qualities so mystical they predate the Systematization of Seven Seals. She's a blank slate: with tutelage from another Ringbearer she could one day equal us in that field.
If we attempt rebellion, she's the closest thing to a puppet claimant one could hope for. Insurgencies always go better with those. To free the Azure Ring but keep it under control of a known, subservient party would also preserve much of their civilization, possibly even improving it by way of a now-willing Ring. Reduced moral dilemma would allow Hunger to save his sword and willpower for those few who continue to defend the Ring's imprisonment.
Tyranny might be an issue, but can potentially be worked around. If we begin by asserting her as our apprentice as a Ringbearer and subordinate as a ruler, we can promote her directly before her people as a time-saving measure. This means that in practice we would not be conquering the Temple, but rather delegating the process to her and assisting only in an instructive or protective role. This neatly avoids ever having to personally acknowledge that the Temple's regime even exists, let alone ought be preserved in some manner.
For Sliver of Evening fans, this is a convenient position to take. Perfect mitigation of a single moment of Tyranny would make supporting her much easier, and make her less dependent on Gisena's advice for avoiding the Doom.
If we attempt rebellion, she's the closest thing to a puppet claimant one could hope for. Insurgencies always go better with those. To free the Azure Ring but keep it under control of a known, subservient party would also preserve much of their civilization, possibly even improving it by way of a now-willing Ring. Reduced moral dilemma would allow Hunger to save his sword and willpower for those few who continue to defend the Ring's imprisonment.
Tyranny might be an issue, but can potentially be worked around. If we begin by asserting her as our apprentice as a Ringbearer and subordinate as a ruler, we can promote her directly before her people as a time-saving measure. This means that in practice we would not be conquering the Temple, but rather delegating the process to her and assisting only in an instructive or protective role. This neatly avoids ever having to personally acknowledge that the Temple's regime even exists, let alone ought be preserved in some manner.
For Sliver of Evening fans, this is a convenient position to take. Perfect mitigation of a single moment of Tyranny would make supporting her much easier, and make her less dependent on Gisena's advice for avoiding the Doom.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Ah, good to know.
Still think playing up the call is probably the wrong move against the Marshal, though. I suspect he'll be less inclined to disbelieve us if we admit we're here to get stronger.
OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
Frak. Hopefully it's not too late for last minute switches/reactions. If this works it'd be farking amazing.
Avecarn: Why have you assaulting the Temple son?
Hunger: I want to become stronger.
Avecarn: This is not the only reason. I can feel that.
Hunger: I also want to fish
Avecarn: Well that convinced me, come on in
Honesty(but misleading) is the best policy
TwistedJester
Tired Lurker King
- Location
- Hell
Aight, let's do this.
The main inspirations are your name and the periods which dinosaurs live.
Sorry this took so long.
The Emanations of Age:
With age comes both change and unending might. A system meant to enable those with fleeting lives it truly shines in those who live eventfully. As such, those who do not fear death from time cannot benefit from it.
As a practitioner lives they gain Emanations based upon each of the stages of their lives. The stages can vary from their stages of development or even to periods of differing beliefs and values. In any case the stages primarily originate from a somewhat prophetic auxiliary ability that decides on the form based on what would benefit the practitioner the most.
As per the name all abilities are based primarily on Emanations with any inward focus such as personal healing being a side effect of the Emanation. They vary on overall power through how significant each stage was personally, and externally. A man for example who lives a uneventful life with states based on his stages of development would receive a mild healing aura for his childhood, and the use of small fiery projectiles for his adulthood. Sasuke Uchiha on the other hand would have his stages revolves around his world views, and would receive white robes for his youth before the massacre to signify his innocence and give him the capacity to aid others emotionally and spiritually, his later childhood and teenage years would be in the form of a bloodstained robe which bolsters him with the extent varying on his negative emotions, and his sheer drive.
The final abilities of the Emanations of Age come from catastrophe, if when a Doom approaches the practitioner and if they seek to put a stop to it with no concern given to themselves, they may sacrifice their stages permanently to elevate the capabilities of each stage sacrificed with more power coming from the more stages being sacrificed overall. If all was placed upon the Altar that dull man could reverse crippling injuries within seconds, and launch blasts of searing heat mighty enough to rip through buildings as if they were chaff. Afterwords, he would collapse dead his very life, and history put to flame. If a practitioner chooses to not burn all his stages they would find their life a misery as the memories of the stages they sacrifice would lose their meaning to them, old friends and foes alike would be treated as if they were strangers.
Induction into the Emanations of Age need to be done even before the birth of the child with any form of Emanation needed to be near the fetus in development in order to create a seed of potential in the child.
Such seeds of potential may be manifested in nearly anything as my as its conceptually coming into existence. For that reason anything with a finite lifespan may have stages. A entire race might generate multiple stages based upon their technology levels or even their unity. In such a scenario their Emanations would only be activated on the collective will of that race if the Emanation requires a conscious use. For any other thing with a seed of potential without any conscious thought their Emanations would be entirely passive in nature.
Edit: So many typos.
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OctarineShrike
Avatar of Mandos
Reaction written on the tail end of Fleeting Respite. Word count once I Libreoffice.(Edit: 978 words)
I presume this is a reference to the magical power of the hot springs.
So basically, Gisena is as much of a procrastinator as some of the people in Lord Hunger's brain can be. She probably just burned her Rihakuverse protagonist card by saying it. It's ashes, the ashes are floating down to earth, and they are saying "I don't have the attention span to be a Rihaku protagonist".
This is basically giving Letrezia a sizable chunk of Amplitude/turning her into the Rihakuverse scale version of Misaka Mikoto. I can practically hear Only My Railgun playing when I read this.
I presume this is a reference to the magical power of the hot springs.
Best you don't share that with the people at the Bounty office Lord Hunger.
Bait and switch Gisena? You were poking the decapitated head of a rotspawn. Also, there's room to argue here philosophically about whether or not Lord Hunger actually dies when he's killed if he becomes a wraith, given he maintains continuity of consciousness.
Oh but Lord Hunger, you're such a master of pattern recognition I thought you would have realized, that's just not my style. *abridged Kirito voice*
So basically, Gisena is as much of a procrastinator as some of the people in Lord Hunger's brain can be. She probably just burned her Rihakuverse protagonist card by saying it. It's ashes, the ashes are floating down to earth, and they are saying "I don't have the attention span to be a Rihaku protagonist".
One of them is the Streamline and the other one is the Kaguya. It's crazy expensive, but it's not like there's anybody worth hir... oh wait. Shadowcord.
Mercenaries. Highly useful mercenaries whether we pay them to absorb their element or they help us hide from the enemy.
Our priorities are an inscrutable enigma predictable by no human being Gisena. That's probably why the inner council couldn't use divination on us. Our motivations are essentially random.
So basically, it's not quite "You keep what you kill".
Heart? There you go again with weird symbolic comments that are uncomfortably close to the truth. Those symbolic comments are sidling up to the truth, the truth is trying to push them away, and then a fight scene starts like it's the Matrix.
Yeah we're quite a few Arete away from being able to actually pull that off by getting Pillars of Creation.
This is almost enough to make me regret voting for the school option. Only a little. Edeldross was totally worth it and seeing so many updates where I was fine with basically whatever winning was great.
We're probably swole enough to do it quickly now, unfortunately that's going to be doomed to an afterthought if we do it at all.
It's not quite "You keep what you kill" Gisena.
I wonder how much of Gisena's ego is real and how much of it is an affectation?
The magics here are also farking awesome, and I would have been curious to see what a 25 point element would be.
So basically it's Evangelion, Worm, A Certain Magical Index, we have entered very throughly into animeland.
You still need to complete those Gisena, you haven't earned the title yet. It's not time for your moment of supreme fabulosity where you pull a Kars. I'll still be ready with the Avalon background music though when you do.
I think I figured out what analogizes to Gisena's mindset properly. Hardcore players of massively multiplayer online role playing games.
You still haven't broken through yet though Gisena. You're probably procrastinating as much as some of the voters in Lord Hunger's brain.
See, it's stuff like this that makes me want to give Gisena the ring of the false moon so they can get into an actually, relatively balanced kismessitude.
More of the recurring money jokes here.
This explains the title of High Glades. It's both a high altitude due to the mountain, expensive to get into, and the water literally has supernatural power.
More lunar thematics... hopefully we'll have killed the rotbeast by then. I wonder if the Lunar phase would have been retroactively different for optimal conditions if we had more Arete to get a 25 pointer?
Do you hear the cleaving call? I certainly hear it.
This may lead to Gisena founding Aperture Science later but right now she's gotten distracted by shinies throwing off her meditation. Odyssial she is not.
Yep. We are definitely in anime land. You can almost see the lines forming on peoples bodies and the phantom artist brushes. Hopefully we'll never end up seeing photoshop windows because they decided to go in the direction of Sweet Bro and Hella Jeff. That would be terrible. Anyplace under the kind of physics that would make that comics world make sense is not hospitable to human life.
In what sense? This could be interpreted a lot of ways, somebody exploiting Letrezia for her money, Letrezia meeting a vampire, etc.
I led a quirky ragtag band of guerillas, I was never a real military leader. Military Discipline! Hah!
That makes sense in more ways than one. Hopefully we get another shot at Philosopher's Wreath or Rune King. Lord Hunger is a quintessential example of intelligence without wisdom, otherwise he would never have exhausted himself fishing that fateful day so long ago.
Lapsing into tsundere mode already?
This is good food porn and I would totally speak of it in the same breath as what I remember of Fate Stay Night and George RR Martin's work.
The approach to food is like the approach to fighting. It says something about the characters.
As much of a massive screwup as catching that fish was, it apparently gave great characterization milage.
Lord Hunger's estimates are not reliable. Also, this may or may not be too practical. Why get an array fetch modus when you could use an array of queuestacks instead, they are so much easier to weaponize than boring array modii.
Nope. Too dangerous and sets off my Faust Alberich/Valeria Trifa alarm bells.
This is the Queuestack route. It turned out surprisingly well in hindsight.
We could have taken Philosopher's wreath for truly ludicrous gains out of this. Oh well. We'll probably see interesting returns out of this once we've forgotten it exists.
This is basically giving Letrezia a sizable chunk of Amplitude/turning her into the Rihakuverse scale version of Misaka Mikoto. I can practically hear Only My Railgun playing when I read this.
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TwistedJester
Tired Lurker King
- Location
- Hell
Actually where is the sheet? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Aabcehmu
Confusion as a Natural State of Being
- Location
- Chicago, IL
- Pronouns
- Any/All
TwistedJester
Tired Lurker King
- Location
- Hell
Thanks man!
Strange9
hdellaverson@gmail.com
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
This may have been covered already, but why aren't folks considering using Gisena as a way to talk to Avecarn? We can truthfully say that we're denied whole categories of social interaction by a curse laid upon us, and she's a walking talking memetic hazard (particularly if she gets her breakthrough in time).
