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I think a lot of us just want the +mental stability. That's super rare!
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Rihaku
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A novel idea, and productive!
So, the way recruitment works, you can basically just be an independent mercenaries that kills other adventurers. If you're powerful enough they let you into the Inner Ring, though you do have to be incredibly strong (Vanreir wasn't let into the Inner Ring). Hunger is pretty confident he can become that strong fairly quickly, if he isn't already.
While there are downsides to Roilweft's attitude, his actual power is incredible for dealing with the Temple! It also adds a margin of safety in a number of situations.
She's also the best individual fighter of the three, though only because of her ambush % against the others!
Roilweft wouldn't need to venture into the Inner Temple to provide support. He's adept at manipulating space!
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Stacked spacial warping? Oh gods...
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WELL NOW.
Do we want the kid with us since he's useful?
Never mind the red flags of a space and chaos user with a fragile mentality. Potentially a literal time bomb. Well, Space Bomb but yeah.
Hunger could use the practice doll, and maybe a possible protege. Maybe. Letrizia can finally have a younger kid to bulli. Gisena would probably overheat the kid.
His one true friend would be the massive robot. Ironic.
Still. It's gonna be a lot of investments to start this engine. Otherwise it's literally just gonna be another Named Meatshield.
Do we want the kid with us since he's useful?
Never mind the red flags of a space and chaos user with a fragile mentality. Potentially a literal time bomb. Well, Space Bomb but yeah.
Hunger could use the practice doll, and maybe a possible protege. Maybe. Letrizia can finally have a younger kid to bulli. Gisena would probably overheat the kid.
His one true friend would be the massive robot. Ironic.
Still. It's gonna be a lot of investments to start this engine. Otherwise it's literally just gonna be another Named Meatshield.
Rihaku
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Current vote count?
Ruling Ring? Is that the EFB-equivalent that would best allow you to survive the Temple... ?
Btw, you can recruit Fullmight if you want, his buff, while not as comprehensive as yours, does offer a lot more physical stats, especially Might! He's also experienced enough to buff Verschlengorge directly. He'd actually be a lot harder to recruit with the other Elements, despite his crush on Letrizia, but having a fellow buffing specialist is comforting to him!
You have some money, though! Almost enough for two months' wages at her rate. Which is quite expensive, jeez... you could almost get two whole days at the Kaguya for such prices!
You could try to stopping to fish before going to the Temple! That would be an encounter...
Ruling Ring? Is that the EFB-equivalent that would best allow you to survive the Temple... ?
Btw, you can recruit Fullmight if you want, his buff, while not as comprehensive as yours, does offer a lot more physical stats, especially Might! He's also experienced enough to buff Verschlengorge directly. He'd actually be a lot harder to recruit with the other Elements, despite his crush on Letrizia, but having a fellow buffing specialist is comforting to him!
I'm tempted to pick Shadowcord because we have to pay her, and therefore we need money, and therefore we must kill the Rotbeast.
You have some money, though! Almost enough for two months' wages at her rate. Which is quite expensive, jeez... you could almost get two whole days at the Kaguya for such prices!
You could try to stopping to fish before going to the Temple! That would be an encounter...
That wasn't quite what I was thinking, or worrying about. =/
It was that, given the situation -- of coming to a previously-at-war group and negotiating -- of the Temple people, and Hunger's previous deeds against some of their bordermarch soldiers, they might require some proof of sincerity or they might make some demand or even just be a bit aggressive in negotiating... and which might proc the Curse. And that Hunger's normal method of avoiding the Curse in conversations and situations -- namely, a sort of evasiveness and abrasiveness and "Not giving a shit about this/This is beneath me" approach to conversation (like with the first meeting with Letrizia and how he responded to her asking him to promise not to attack her if she came out; and his response was "I won't attack unprovoked. Do as you please." which, really, if you don't know the sort of person a person is, might seem like an evasion or attempt to speak technical truths to cover your ass for when you later go 'Ah! But, see, I never actually promised to not kill you...' That wasn't the actual case with Hunger, of course. But, it's a conclusion somebody who's suspicious or fearful or paranoid might make.) -- might kind of scupper negotiations.
Some of them might be ameliorated with 'Why's this guy willing to change? Would he be willing to stick with the decision?' -> 'Well, our sigils can block the call, so hey!' But if they do prod him the wrong way, or if Hunger is forced to take his usual conversational tactics -- and this plays poorly with delicate negotiations because a person who doesn't sound like he's willing to make a promise or to compromise, well, he probably comes off as unreliable or not negotiating in good faith and so negotiations get tense. =/
Then again, maybe all they'd care about is if their enemy stops attacking them, so...
Heh. Hunger's probably kind of annoying or hard to come to an accord with or talk to, isn't he? (I mean, even aside from his sense of humor and sarcasm.) It feels a bit like he'd never quite agree to a thing or sign for a thing, but would rather maneuver the conversation to 'come to an understanding with' and then proceed there. Would function by proceeding on assumptions and on good faith rather than 'Yes, I absolutely promise to do X/not do Y...' ... Though on the other hand, 'keeping to your word/promise' or 'you scratch my back' might count as a custom or the like.
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Ah, and here we have more clarification on recruitment and stuff...
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That +mental stability... mental stability for whom? Us or Gisena? I'm thinking Gisena, since I know she's upset at not getting magic.
I don't think we'll ever get her EFB, so the free Arete is wasted. I'm guessing that "information" is what she learned in class, which could be helpful for our magic, or politics.
I like the idea of picking him b/c it means we won't be leading him to his (potential) death. He's also the best at empowering Hunger, and we all know how good personal power is.
Convincing Roilweft to come might give picks. The ring gives power for any challenge, and recruiting him is definitely a challenge.
Space and chaos... our bladewinds mean that mobility isn't really an issue for us, and chaos by its nature is hard to predict or plan for so I can't see any major synergies between our powers. That's not to say he isn't powerful, only that I don't see him as some incredible unexploited resource.
I'm not interested in sacrificing significant resources just to save him. He's doomed, but so is the rest of his society once their powers run out in 70 years.
Most likely to give picks if we fight her, given her skill at dueling. Only requires that monopoly money they use here, meaning buying her services costs us basically nothing. A solid pick if we want cheap muscle.
"cannon fodder". A concerning attitude here, even if it is both true and practical. Which reminds me, we're killing a civilization here, which is kinda genocide. Ethnocide?
Are we the bad guy?
Part of the problem with this pick is that even as it give us information on them, they gain information on us. We definitetly still come out ahead on that trade, but it's something to keep in mind.
Another thing to keep in mind is that we're not the first person they've recruited. The Temple has stood for a long, long time. The idea of someone joining and betraying is something they will have prepared for.
I'll have to think on this some more.
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[X] Focus on Gisena
Gives more stats, I don't care about SJUC rebates, and mental stability is good.
[X] Fullmight
Given how strong Hunger is already, further empowering him should get better results than hiring someone new.
I'm holding off on the Temple plan for now, hoping for a good write-in.
TwistedJester
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[X] Focus on Gisena
[X] Roilweft
[X] Methodical Onslaught
I can't resist the Space Manipulation, sorry Not!Shinji but it's time for you to get into the Temple. Hopefully, trauma of some kind can give you a backbone.
[X] Roilweft
[X] Methodical Onslaught
I can't resist the Space Manipulation, sorry Not!Shinji but it's time for you to get into the Temple. Hopefully, trauma of some kind can give you a backbone.
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Maybe someone has heard about a Flood Dragon nearby?
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- Omniverse #1345
...We must do this. It's probably the most hilarious method by which to get Preeminence: Passion.
As expected of the King of the World! Though Exavolt did lose...
Huh, so the sample Surges in the option's description belong to actual people. Or this one does, at least. Presumably Letrizia manipulated 'Midoriya shounen' into coughing up the blood samples she brought back, poor kid's going to be crushed when she leaves. I suspect could we could parlay the crush into recruitment, but there's a difference between could and should. There's no justification and his buffs are redundant. Sparring with him would synergize well with control, letting us absorb his experience, but it doesn't give us another teammate.
So, uh, apparently the Unnamed Quest references were on-point? Except the shoe's on the other foot now, with us as the forthright tyrant extending his hand to a vulnerable youth. I... kind of want to pick him just for the dynamic, to pay forward Control's gift of self-esteem to Seram's first incarnation. Manipulation of space is also ridiculously useful and could potentially expedite our journey out of the Voyaging, to say nothing of the offensive applications.
Sharpbright'll be better for Letrizia in the long term, but without Exavolt we don't have anyone to lay down the law on our enemies. Wouldn't have expected being the best for infiltrating as well, that's a solid bonus. Picking him does mean consigning Roilweft (strangely dehumanizing, to refer to them using superhero conventions) to living in close quarters with Gisena, but that's probably better than the Sovereignty pressuring him into a life of military service until he snaps or dies?
Interesting that it's Shadowcord and not Shadowchord. Unless she likes garrotes? Eh, the naming scheme's as idiosyncratic as it is evocative. Anyway, she's useful since we have no real need of wealth. Her Element's versatile, she's professional enough to not need much management though the mercenary mindset's ultimately shortsighted, money converts imperfectly to power. Maybe if she sees the Encampment's culture there's potential for character development? One thing I'm concerned about is the Apocryphal Curse making her a better offer, but since we didn't take King of Thieves gaining stealth patches a huge hole in the party's skillset.
For now:
[X] Focus on Gisena
[X] Methodical Onslaught
[X] Roilweft
Wait, does that mean he can see into the Inner Temple?
Changing my mind on this kid, if he's that powerful he could
-Let the mech into the temple without breaking the doors.
-Let us spy on the Inner Temple
-Let us do hit-and-run attacks.
-Let us get to various destinations much, much faster.
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I mean yeah, Fullmight would give us more personal power; but we kind of have zero stealth capability right now and an extra combatant give us more tactical flexibility when coming up with stratagems to dealing with the Temple. She'd be an excellent reconnaissance or scout-sniper equivalent, for instance. She doesn't need FULL MUSCLE POWER to be relevant on the battlefield; much like Gisena, she can provide specialized assistance to cover deficiencies in our build! For what's basically fake money for us, it's amazing value.
Also, please don't pick Shinji. We don't need him in our life; forward him to the relevant mental health professionals!
Also, please don't pick Shinji. We don't need him in our life; forward him to the relevant mental health professionals!
Given the Kaguya gave us no mechanical benefits whatsoever, we clearly are absolutely fine with that price.
Do we have a Ring or Evening Sky EFB that would be better? You won't tempt me away from that Special Advancement, you devil..!
Rihaku
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Hunger is capable of making promises and keeping his word, but he takes his word very seriously, and so doesn't do it lightly. But he'll make an exception for these guys, because he can't countenance the torture of the Ring.
Recruiting him without steamrolling him would be! Tactics would help, but it's never guaranteed with such finicky situations.
Well, if they have lifespan extension they can keep the Elementalists they have around...
You know what they say! You either die the hero...
The calibre of Fish it would take to challenge Hunger now would be fearsome indeed.. I think he may have skipped entirely over the 'Emperor Fish' category. Hm... Overlord Fish?
Question, can we... store stuff in the Evening Sky? That is, could it function like a dnd portable hole/bag of holding? Or more specifically... could it function like that for semi-ethereal things rather than fully material things? Like our Edeldross.
I'm wondering whether Hunger can, say, morph the Evening Sky into the shape (and close to the size of) a parachute and then 'launch' a 'wave' of Edeldross into the parachute; thus, you don't have to worry about friendly-fire-buffing with Edeldross; you just make sure to fire it off into your cloak rather than into the environment.
And if it can function like, or absorb etheric things, like a Portable Hole (i.e. Edeldross hits the cloak and then just sinks right into it) then maybe all that'd be required is just shooting into a blanket or sailcloth-like Evening Sky, rather than a parachute-shaped one. Or just... You wrap your left hand up with your Evening Sky cloak. And then from then on, you can just fire off all the Edeldross you want; it'll just get absorbed by the cloak, and not leech out into the environment.
I wonder if the Evening Sky can wrap around you until you look like a mummy...
'course, if Edeldross erupts in an AoE emanating from Hunger like an aura, or if the cloak can't corral it physically (parachute-form) or outright-absorb-it (Portable Hole mechanics example) than that's not really going to work at all, so.
If this were Inksky, this would be a lot less questionable and a lot easier, but oh well.
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All the souvenirs you could want, Letty.
I'm wondering whether Hunger can, say, morph the Evening Sky into the shape (and close to the size of) a parachute and then 'launch' a 'wave' of Edeldross into the parachute; thus, you don't have to worry about friendly-fire-buffing with Edeldross; you just make sure to fire it off into your cloak rather than into the environment.
And if it can function like, or absorb etheric things, like a Portable Hole (i.e. Edeldross hits the cloak and then just sinks right into it) then maybe all that'd be required is just shooting into a blanket or sailcloth-like Evening Sky, rather than a parachute-shaped one. Or just... You wrap your left hand up with your Evening Sky cloak. And then from then on, you can just fire off all the Edeldross you want; it'll just get absorbed by the cloak, and not leech out into the environment.
I wonder if the Evening Sky can wrap around you until you look like a mummy...
'course, if Edeldross erupts in an AoE emanating from Hunger like an aura, or if the cloak can't corral it physically (parachute-form) or outright-absorb-it (Portable Hole mechanics example) than that's not really going to work at all, so.
If this were Inksky, this would be a lot less questionable and a lot easier, but oh well.
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Actually, come to think of it. Since Hunger earned 12 currency, they can probably afford all the books and food and movies that Gisena and Letrizia would want to take and store away on Verschlengorge.
All the souvenirs you could want, Letty.
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[X] Focus on Gisena
[X] Roilweft
[X] Plan Hit-And-Run
Plan Hit-And-Run is all about Asymmetrical Warfare. Roilweft's ability to warp spaces allows us to pick and choose our battles. Warp space to spy on the middle and inner temple, stealing their plans, testing how they respond to incursions (response times, who they send, how they communicate), discovering what magic/tech/whatever they use to detect incursions, and other such information. Then use his abilities to perform hit-and-run attacks when and where they are not expected. Break into their armories and steal their treasures. Abduct residents for interrogation. Focus attacks on leadership, communications, and if possible on their most competant leadership.
If Roilweft is not chosen this plan is null and void.
Obviously this plan depends on Roilweft being okay with mass-murder, but once the call of the moon latches onto him I think he'll be cool.
[X] Roilweft
[X] Plan Hit-And-Run
Plan Hit-And-Run is all about Asymmetrical Warfare. Roilweft's ability to warp spaces allows us to pick and choose our battles. Warp space to spy on the middle and inner temple, stealing their plans, testing how they respond to incursions (response times, who they send, how they communicate), discovering what magic/tech/whatever they use to detect incursions, and other such information. Then use his abilities to perform hit-and-run attacks when and where they are not expected. Break into their armories and steal their treasures. Abduct residents for interrogation. Focus attacks on leadership, communications, and if possible on their most competant leadership.
If Roilweft is not chosen this plan is null and void.
Obviously this plan depends on Roilweft being okay with mass-murder, but once the call of the moon latches onto him I think he'll be cool.
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Can we please not? For like... all the reasons?
There might be some conceptual synergy between Roilweft and Edeldross. Both space and chaos have loose associations with potential, which is close to what edeldross deals in.
UGHHHH, I wish I could write in to attack border patrols and enemies but not kill them but instead indoctrinate them through the use of ennoblement if we got it. I find however little reason to try sadly
.Were a tyrant right? Wheres the EVIL DARK OVERLORD OPTION we were supposed to get Rihaku as the TYRANT?
Welp, might as well create a joke write-in of what could have been to blow of some steam before I sleep
{X} Dark Overlord Hunger - Cunningly crush the the moon temples residents by first infriltrating the encampment and seek to control it, second would be to attack and indoctrinate any outer moon residents weaker then Hunger, next occupy moon resident land and specificly their farm land to starve them out as well as gather information from the moon residents, next gain allies amongst the nobles of the moon temple and divide them from the inside, finally lay seige to the temple and BECOME THE TYRANT OF THE MOON TEMPLE YOU WERE ALWAYS MEANT TO BE.
Honestly a bit rough and i'm probably skipping some steps but it's THE DREAM OF WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN that counts in my heart.
Fairwell, Dark Overord Hunger of the moon temple option, you will be missed...
Rihaku
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Piano wire does have so many applications...
You won't know the specifics until he tries, but he can do at least some of the things you've listed!
It doesn't, though there is an Advancement that allows for that. You can physically 'store' things in it like you would any other animated cloak, though.
Roilweft doesn't lack for power, and his control is good for a High Elementalist too! You'd probably want to find some ways to buff him if he's the lynchpin of your plan... there's blood buff and Edeldross, but finding some way to make the guy into a Sorcerer would probably do a lot for his neuroses!
