Rihaku
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It's not a stat at all!
Hm... I wonder if Onslaught actually would finish the Temple as fast as possible... there's something to be said for effective reconnaissance!
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It's not a stat at all!
Hm... I wonder if Onslaught actually would finish the Temple as fast as possible... there's something to be said for effective reconnaissance!
Blood moon is a lunar eclipse, Blue moon is when you get a 13th full moon in a year instead of 12 full moons. Had to
He could wager his personally-caught fish to Gisena's cooking, to boot. Thereby also risking an object he values, too.
Just look at all the times Hunger had to sacrifice the opportunity to go fishing! Everyone sacrifices. Gisena and books. Letrizia and good food. Hunger and fishing. Truly, these are dark times...
Daww. That's... surprisingly touching and nice.
Well on the bright side, maybe you can use it to buff disappointing enemies in order to get slightly-less-disappointing fights?
Drat. I wonder if he can use
... Wait, wait wait -- wouldn't the Doom of the Tyrant screw over attempts to operate in somebody else's hierarchy? We don't... actually know if we can do 'undercover' stuff, or if the Curse totally hoses such attempts...
Crap. If we had taken the Market Day option in the resort, we would have a better idea of how the Doom of the Tyrant works, and maybe even know about how it interacts with deception or subterfuge or lying, but we didn't and so we don't. So we actually might have some nasty surprises if we try infiltration. Do we know if the Doom of the Tyrant allow you to lie about being willing to take orders or make a deal or make a promise, to somebody?
It's one thing if you're doing social stuff like approaching a merchant or info-broker, or if you're asking about mercenary work for slaying Rotbeasts... But when trying to convince people you had been fighting that you're totally willing to change your allegiance, honest, it probably requires some compromises or assurances; of doing or promising something extra, in order to show your willingness and sincerity.
And if Hunger were forced to talk with them in the same way he had had to first talk with Letrizia into exiting her Armament, or his response to the Elixir Sovereignty's borderguards... negotiations would probably fall through. Because the guy they'd be talking to would be unwilling to commit to anything and would be all "I don't promise anything but..."
What do we do if they make some demand, or require some assurance of goodwill, and Hunger's Doom of the Tyrant goes "lolno, not even to lie"? Damn. Like for example them asking us to slaughter the encampment of adventurers to prove our seriousness. Hell, even if we could do that without running into the Curse... it would still be a super shitty thing, because it would mean Hunger suddenly having to potentially kill a lot of innocent(ish) people... which, isn't something I'd want him to do.
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Duquette7
I am Fire, and I am Rain
[X] Focus on Gisena
[X] Fullmight
[X] Methodical Onslaught
Gisena is obvious, we need to unlock her EFB, help her reach High Sorc, and get her imput on our element so we can start crafting graces.
Onslaught, lets show them the power of the Forebearer, and trying to infiltrate will run full speed into a tyrant proc.
Space and Chaos sounds fun, but the person their attached to sounds like a major investment project, both in actions, word count, and Arete. NO. Fullmight is cheap, gives us the best training, and doesn't bloat word count with more non combat, non blurb stuff.
[X] Fullmight
[X] Methodical Onslaught
Gisena is obvious, we need to unlock her EFB, help her reach High Sorc, and get her imput on our element so we can start crafting graces.
Onslaught, lets show them the power of the Forebearer, and trying to infiltrate will run full speed into a tyrant proc.
Space and Chaos sounds fun, but the person their attached to sounds like a major investment project, both in actions, word count, and Arete. NO. Fullmight is cheap, gives us the best training, and doesn't bloat word count with more non combat, non blurb stuff.
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Is Hunger capable of using Cut Through to breach the temple in new locations? It seems like a simple way to cause diverse problems for the Moon Civilization. Ramifications could be lots of things, but it's probably super dangerous to alter the border between a warped space and its edges.
- Location
- Pindorama
I'm actually coming around to Shadowcord given she'd be not only useful for us but for Letrizia. Not only would a mercenary contact be an asset to house Artriez; her stealth based power might be quite useful in the possible political machinations of the Human Sphere, especially relevant given she thinks she was set up. Meeting her now might be a good investment for the future. Plus, it's not like we've been using the money!
Yes, but joining the Inner Ring even temporarily means getting enmeshed in their complications. Parsing that would definitely take more time, but we can't get entangled if we don't get involved! Ah, the bliss of ignorance.
- Location
- Earth
[X] Focus on Gisena
[X] Fullmight
[X] Infiltration
[X] Fullmight
[X] Infiltration
Zampano
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- Location
- Simping for DSB
[X] Shadowcord
[X] Methodical Onslaught
[X] Focus on Gisena
I like recruitment. We killed a lot of rotbeasties so we can afford a stealth specialist. She is least likely to be caught up in combat.
Grabbing Meatshields from the camp will make the temple easier.
Gisena has an EFBlurb, whereas Chimera Lord is several EFBs away.
Did we get an Arete count for our discussions yesterday?
[X] Methodical Onslaught
[X] Focus on Gisena
I like recruitment. We killed a lot of rotbeasties so we can afford a stealth specialist. She is least likely to be caught up in combat.
Grabbing Meatshields from the camp will make the temple easier.
Gisena has an EFBlurb, whereas Chimera Lord is several EFBs away.
Did we get an Arete count for our discussions yesterday?
Thanatanos
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[X] Infiltration
[X] Focus on Gisena
[X] Fullmight
Infiltration sounds interesting
[X] Focus on Gisena
[X] Fullmight
Infiltration sounds interesting
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Rihaku
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Hm... is that a wise assumption to make? There are two compounding factors: the possible risk of Primacy as well as the Apocryphal Curse!
You have magic defense via Cut Through, though it requires active interception and isn't perfect. Magic-Defeating Stance would be good since you're already going to benefit from the Apocryphal reduction no matter what.
But Hunger is already a Blood Knight! Or on the path to becoming one...
Hm, I think your guys' Arete budget is strained enough without bringing yet another EFB into the equation. The companion EFBs are great though, just imagine if you had Catherine's!
Well, the Temple residents believe that most of the people attacking them are only doing so because of the Call. And they think their sigils defang the Call, so a credible turncoat is easier to pull off than against most other foes.
He could try! Do you mean the outer wall of the Temple itself? That could have interesting consequences.
It could also mean more time to fund your wild Arete-spending plans before you're forced into combat!
[X] Focus on Gisena
[X] Shadowcord
[X] Infiltration
I do not feel comfortable placing these kids in the Inner Temple especially Roilweft.
In Methodial Onslaught, I think there would be too high of a risk for the kids to get killed. FullBright would do great and maybe Shadowcord. Hunger is a great bodyguard but not much of a babysitter I think.
Shadowcord or Roilweft would be more viable in infiltration. But Roilweft doesn't seem espionage savy so Shadowcord seems a bit more viable. I kind want take Roilweft but most options seem made to get him killed as fast as possible.
[X] Shadowcord
[X] Infiltration
I do not feel comfortable placing these kids in the Inner Temple especially Roilweft.
In Methodial Onslaught, I think there would be too high of a risk for the kids to get killed. FullBright would do great and maybe Shadowcord. Hunger is a great bodyguard but not much of a babysitter I think.
Shadowcord or Roilweft would be more viable in infiltration. But Roilweft doesn't seem espionage savy so Shadowcord seems a bit more viable. I kind want take Roilweft but most options seem made to get him killed as fast as possible.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Well, we don't have to take them with us. The Fullmight option seems like he gets left here, but provides the biggest training bonus.
- Location
- Pindorama
[X] Shadowcord
[X] Methodical Onslaught
[X] Focus on Gisena
Why not; the only thing at stake is the money! Onslaught will probably be much easier if could just ghost away whenever we want to, and she would be an additional combatant that would benefit fully from blood-buffing and Edeldross. We can just ditch her once we reach Civilization, which we can easily do in less than a month. Or she could become a retainer for House Artriez for a good sum, who knows? It's definitely a very good purchase in the immediate because what else will we do with all this money? I much rather get another relevant combatant than have the cash burn a hole in our pocket.
[X] Methodical Onslaught
[X] Focus on Gisena
Why not; the only thing at stake is the money! Onslaught will probably be much easier if could just ghost away whenever we want to, and she would be an additional combatant that would benefit fully from blood-buffing and Edeldross. We can just ditch her once we reach Civilization, which we can easily do in less than a month. Or she could become a retainer for House Artriez for a good sum, who knows? It's definitely a very good purchase in the immediate because what else will we do with all this money? I much rather get another relevant combatant than have the cash burn a hole in our pocket.
But without picks we won't progress to the Ruling Ring anyway, so who cares about raw Arete? We want the EFB!
Infiltration plus Shadowcord might be anti-synergistic due to her mercenary nature; what if they offer more than what we have on hand? It would be a shame to have to fight her. Having her meet them only as enemy combatants might be safer for her, funnily enough.
- Location
- Brazil
That's fair. For maximum efficiency, face Primacy while the Apocryphal is active! The most efficient way for us to kill ourselves!
But seriously, both of those are making me more and more worried...
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
Hunger's personality, mostly. I'd rather not bring any of the kids with us.
- Location
- Omniverse #1345
I wouldn't worry too much. He isn't going all out in the "you will die" part, so he's just being his usual self of calling attention to drawbacks that may or may not actual exist.
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- Location
- USA
[X] Focus on Letrizia
[X] Fullmight
[X] Methodical Onslaught
I'm tempted to pick Shadowcord because we have to pay her, and therefore we need money, and therefore we must kill the Rotbeast.
And I'll switch to a write-in later if people make cool ones. Be tough, though, 'cause Methodical Onslaught is methodical. I don't really want to infiltrate, doing missions for these guys would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
Most importantly, Zee needs love.
[X] Fullmight
[X] Methodical Onslaught
I'm tempted to pick Shadowcord because we have to pay her, and therefore we need money, and therefore we must kill the Rotbeast.
And I'll switch to a write-in later if people make cool ones. Be tough, though, 'cause Methodical Onslaught is methodical. I don't really want to infiltrate, doing missions for these guys would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
Most importantly, Zee needs love.
Might want to consider grabbing Shadowcord for Infiltration since she has a Surge that directly contributes to stealth in the Temple, though I'm leery of taking her if we're just going on an Onslaught since that's going be involving full-blown combat with little stealth presumably. She has a pretty helpful Element and also gives Hunger a reason to both continue interacting with society (to earn currency to pay her wages) and doesn't cost us Arete (the true currency of value).
I'm more partial to just going for a head-on attack though. That will allow us to acquire as much as power as we can by extracting picks from lesser foes (a good way to acquire the Dominion effects??) which we can leverage for immediate power that should allow us some margin of safety so we can attain the Ruling Ring after acquiring the Preeminence effects either through battle or training the kids or the most dangerous option of all... F I S H I N G (!!!).
I'm more partial to just going for a head-on attack though. That will allow us to acquire as much as power as we can by extracting picks from lesser foes (a good way to acquire the Dominion effects??) which we can leverage for immediate power that should allow us some margin of safety so we can attain the Ruling Ring after acquiring the Preeminence effects either through battle or training the kids or the most dangerous option of all... F I S H I N G (!!!).