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LordOfMurder said:
Say we only have one leg right? If we don't take a companion do we just furiously hop everywhere?
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You mad bastard... I hate you so much, but I love you so much for that mental image. Can you imagine?

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"I AM VENGEANCE."

"Y-you don't have a leg! You don't have an arm!"

"'TIS MERELY A FLESH WOUND! NOT AT ALL LIKE THE ONE I SHALL DELIVER UNTO THEE. COME HERE, THAT I MAY STRIKE THEE DOWN WITH THE IMPERIAL PRAXIS, THE SWORD THAT ENDS THE WORLD, THE PROVENANCE OF THE ACCURSED!"

"Wha- you-! You can't fight me! You're insane!"

"THE ONLY MADNESS HERE IS YOUR UNWILLINGNESS TO FACE YOUR DOOM. DO YOU NOT REALIZE YET, DEATH IS THE END OF ALL THINGS, AND YOUR END IS AT HAND?"

"You could use a hand, you mad bastard!"

"RIGHT. I SHALL DO YOU IN FOR THAT!"

"What are you going to do, bleed on me?!"

"I'M INVINCIBLE! AAAAAAAA!" *dashes forward and dies in a single swipe of the enemy's sword, because Praxis*
 
Too many people sleeping on the Prolessarch! Think of all the benefits of having a superhuman intellect provide insight into the magic systems of the Praxis and the Seven Seals! Think of the progression multipliers, the headstart we'd get, skipping all the fumbling in the dark endemic to shiny new build votes-- there's a reason he costs two remittances!

Think of the practical benefits-- his functional immortality lets us use him as bait and avoid the pitfalls of conventionally more dangerous tactics by putting the life of another at risk. If it's temporal power you need, there's no better place to get it than the guy that finds it so easy to acquire it bores him!
 
Talace said:
Too many people sleeping on the Prolessarch! Think of all the benefits of having a superhuman intellect provide insight into the magic systems of the Praxis and the Seven Seals! Think of the progression multipliers, the headstart we'd get, skipping all the fumbling in the dark endemic to shiny new build votes-- there's a reason he costs two remittances!

Think of the practical benefits-- his functional immortality lets us use him as bait and avoid the pitfalls of conventionally more dangerous tactics by putting the life of another at risk. If it's temporal power you need, there's no better place to get it than the guy that finds it so easy to acquire it bores him!
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Prolessarch is quite the capable schemer, if he can be motivated to do so on your behalf! Millenia of matching wits with mighty sages, rival liches, and the ruthless highborn will do that to ya!
 
Interesting builds! Really didn't expect Mazed to be popular.

Unelemental said:
Well, duh.

{X} Archival Magic
{X} Inheritor
{X} Scion
{X} An Age of War
{X} Fatal Flaw
{X} Mazed

Don't fix what's not broken. Would maybe even take the Tortoise in exchange for some additional Flaws, but it seems too risky for something with such a squick factor and thus unlikely to enjoy full use by the questers.
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Archival Magic + Scion + Mazed means the Lost ritual would be less summoning a champion and more laying a curse on the city-states to bring them down from within. Very viable if you're ruthless enough to follow through but the Fatal Flaw involved would be pretty harsh. And while Tortoise is busted with these choices, people are indeed too squeamish to eat brains.

Orm Embar said:
Interesting, Pacifist and Bird might interact hilariously if the red mist of rage counts as not being able to 'see' one's enemies. But it's a straight up 1 for 1 trade and Pacifist impedes social conflict as well, so not worth it.

{X} Legacy
{X} Citizen
{X} Archival Magic
{X} Inheritor
{X} An Age of War
{X} Fatal Flaw
{X} Mazed

Mazed (Planescape or Labyrinth Empire reference? Both?) is painful in conjunction with Archival/Inheritor, but I have to pay for my overweening greed somehow. Citizen'll provide initial safety if it adapts properly to Mazed, though with a lower standard of living. Could be cut if the Tribes' strategic position is dire enough that they're relying on me, dropping Fatal Flaw. Legacy disregards incompatibility, which is great. If you can pick your predecessor, even better, Might's Overlord has obvious synergies with the Tribes and I can hope the cache comes with Cultivation resources.
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Both. Would require a bit of scheming and politicking at the start since you've got none of the immediate power the Lost would expect but bullshitting your way through the early game as a prophet by directing them to resources caches would be possible. Legacy + Inheritor is also pretty wild since you'd have empirical experience with casting that type of magic, saving you decades of research and granting a firm foundation for original work.

Rihaku said:
Hm... does the Dragon + Heartless Might grant Amouthanos-level scheming? If so, then choice of magic system almost doesn't matter! Let Summer play waterproof if he likes, there is always a sky above the sky!

For any build other than this, though, the lack of Unnamed does make things difficult. Orb economy is a bit tougher when you have to take actual flaws! Also, what's the word count?
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The higher levels of Heartlessness combined with mental buffs of the Dragon would let you match wits with or even outscheme Amouthanos without needing to actively draw upon the Might, yeah. It would probably end up something akin to the Form of Virtuosity from the EFB Palimpest. Your methods would be very different though. As for wordcount, 3266.

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Also, holy shit am I flattered that people made builds for this.
 
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Rihaku said:
Prolessarch is quite the capable schemer, if he can be motivated to do so on your behalf! Millenia of matching wits with mighty sages, rival liches, and the ruthless highborn will do that to ya!
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Perhaps with the promise of Retinue's remarkable boon, a few octillion years of novel magic systems, and the never before seen bestest magic system, we'd be able to connive him into letting us survive at least the first few fights.
 
The question then is how to motivate him. He finds Catherine interesting apparently. He hates elves.

Simplest probably is mentioning that we are a chaos/interesting times magnet because apocrypha. Another route is mentioning Decimator's Affliction and appealing to utilitarianism to get him to help us take our seals further for mitigation purposes(Best done in conjunction with Forebear's Blade).
 
formalAI said:
I think most of that salt is greatly exaggerated. I believe people often get over invested in their preferred option, when in fact all the options are great. I, myself, have been guilty of this in the past: in EFB I got really salty about some choices when in the end it still ended up leading to a super good story. Ultimately Rihaku would not present an option if he didn't think it couldn't lead to an interesting story, and I do trust his judgement in the matter.
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I'm glad you can enjoy whatever option we chose. In fact, if you can convince @Orm Embar that the choices we made during Terrascape were great and lead to an enjoyable story and that Imperia was a great waifu, I will vote for whatever you want for the rest of the quest; I will even abandon the Sword for you.
 
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Talace said:
Too many people sleeping on the Prolessarch! Think of all the benefits of having a superhuman intellect provide insight into the magic systems of the Praxis and the Seven Seals! Think of the progression multipliers, the headstart we'd get, skipping all the fumbling in the dark endemic to shiny new build votes-- there's a reason he costs two remittances!

Think of the practical benefits-- his functional immortality lets us use him as bait and avoid the pitfalls of conventionally more dangerous tactics by putting the life of another at risk. If it's temporal power you need, there's no better place to get it than the guy that finds it so easy to acquire it bores him!
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Prolessarch:
* Not a Waifu
* 2 LRs
* No obvious immediate or long term power
 
Shard said:
Prolessarch:
* Not a Waifu
* 2 LRs
* No obvious immediate or long term power
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Prolessarch
*Definitely a Waifu
*For good reason
*Having a supergenius help you scheme, acquire foundational insight into non-abstract magic systems, and drain the life essence of sapient beings is definitely some kind of power
 
Orm Embar said:
The ruthless highborn, eh? I'm guessing he's from whatever EFB AU we passed up the chance at. Could Cultivator civilization survive opposing a race full of Amouthanoses?
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Could any civilization (within EFB) survive that? Elven Artifice with Diagram Magic is potent. Imagine if Amouthanos was prepared to arrange elven versions of Baenlixnaier-Nameless sacrifices.
 
I wonder which Fate created the Elves? Assuming it works anything like that at all.
 
I realized a potential form of mitigation for Decimator's Affliction in Seven Seals, albeit a somewhat self-sacrificing one we'd need regeneration to take. Become the kind of being that exists halfway in the realm of Platonic forms. If half of us is in there, that may if we're lucky cut the drain for Decimator's Affliction in half. Platonic forms don't have life force right?
 
Conjured Blade said:
I realized a potential form of mitigation for Decimator's Affliction in Seven Seals, albeit a somewhat self-sacrificing one we'd need regeneration to take. Become the kind of being that exists halfway in the realm of Platonic forms. If half of us is in there, that may if we're lucky cut the drain for Decimator's Affliction in half. Platonic forms don't have life force right?
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Avoiding Decimator's Drain is equivalent to suffering it ourselves.
 
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