If an Apocryphal proc is the thing we have to fear then I'm totally fine with picking Crown. Don't let devil's advocacy sway you from the option that most comprehensively improves us. We already are safer than we would be without Evening Sky even Exhausted, is that marginal survivability improvement over such a short period really worth it?
 
Postponing the costs of our stamina-draining ultimate attack is a relevant perk when we're this wiped out. It feels like losing a game of chicken with the Apocryphal Curse, but perhaps we should prioritize immediate safety, after doing things like taking Praetor and potential-flavored a Further Beyond effect. Though if the votes were skewed in another direction, no doubt we'd be hearing all about the virtues of Rank!

[X] Saber
[X] Pass Out

Perhaps! On the other hand, you were very comprehensively warned about the dangers of overexertion while fishing, so I've been nothing but consistent!

Tbh, I don't particularly see Saber as "short term" and Crown as "long term", they seem to have similar amount of use through the game. But sure

[X] Saber
[X] Pass Out

Crown does almost nothing until you stop being Exhausted, while Saber does something, so of course it's better!
 
Cursebearer Nameless would be a lot weaker unless Thrice-Great Nameless fucked up the temporal polarity and got something from the opposite direction (the very far future), so there wouldn't be any way to do so even if that's something he were willing to do! Besides, it's just the Noble Praxis, there are plenty of species that have access to that.

Interesting. There are entire species that have access to the Noble Praxis? We know of three levels - Imperial, which is implied to be cursebearers only, Royal, which can be gotten via lesser wish from a combat type, and Noble. I wonder if Noble is the lowest level or if there is more?

So, speculation time! How did entire species gain access to the Noble Praxis? I can think of a few scenarios.

A cursebearer spending Accursed favor or a wish to give an entire species magic?

Perhaps cursebearers who take the Imperial Praxis can get a lesser remittance that lets them teach a lower form of Praxis to people?

Maybe the Accursed has favorite nations or peoples who are given access en mass?

I did have an idea a while back about a hypothetical cursebearer Nameless who took Cultivation and the Praxis - if such a person ever developed a titanic inner world, perhaps the inhabitants would be able to use the Noble Praxis? A Dao of the Cursebearer could be really interesting.
 
I really don't want to give up the Rank up when we basically have already paid the cost for it. Sunk-cost fallacy? I think it's more about seeing your investment through. We'd already be turbo-fucked if Apocryphal triggered with overwhelming force right now so I don't think Saber is worth it; and when it comes to value when we are out of the heat-zone, Crown is much more complete. After having gone so far, let us not all flinch in this last moment.
 
Interesting. There are entire species that have access to the Noble Praxis? We know of three levels - Imperial, which is implied to be cursebearers only, Royal, which can be gotten via lesser wish from a combat type, and Noble. I wonder if Noble is the lowest level or if there is more?

So, speculation time! How did entire species gain access to the Noble Praxis? I can think of a few scenarios.

A cursebearer spending Accursed favor or a wish to give an entire species magic?

Perhaps cursebearers who take the Imperial Praxis can get a lesser remittance that lets them teach a lower form of Praxis to people?

Maybe the Accursed has favorite nations or peoples who are given access en mass?

I did have an idea a while back about a hypothetical cursebearer Nameless who took Cultivation and the Praxis - if such a person ever developed a titanic inner world, perhaps the inhabitants would be able to use the Noble Praxis? A Dao of the Cursebearer could be really interesting.

Perhaps it's simply a dream of (somewhat) fairness, defiant against an uncaring universe? After all, even the Noble Praxis in time commands power enough to make the cosmos care!
 
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[X]Crown

If we're gonna gamble, then we should follow through. While I was happy with both Substantially and Prudence, I'd rather not chicken out at the last second when there's a Rank up on the line. That said, if someone offers a marker, I'll happily vote with them. Else, I'll stick to my guns.

[X] Dress the Fish

I would vote Pass Out but I think our rival's body deserves better than to be turned into a bioweapon by Gisena.

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Anyway, something to replenish our empty coffers.


Damn it. Can't wait for this fishy fuck to have been sentient; a hundred of his buddies are coming to murder us for killing their friend.

It began, the herculean struggle between man and beast, the test of patience and timing, of placement and cunning, a contest of wills as much as of strength. Prey and predator were united by hunger as well as happenstance: the fish, to nibble at bait without surrendering its life, and the man, to seize his prize before the lure dissipated.

I'm amazed at how rad you've made this incredibly silly endeavor sound. It's reminiscent of a super power battle fantasy anime turning a game of beach volleyball into a matter of genuine life or death as the protagonists turn their vast magical power to the task of a harmless game between friends. I enjoy the energy, now if only we weren't under the imminent risk of death it would be perfect.

Overcome by the moment, defiant against the fates and the world, he spent of himself recklessly, drawing forth every iota of power to bend lake and denizens to his will. His instincts pierced the waters like a great refulgent eye, and the tantalizing gleam and dance of his bait was as a thing of gold, made precious and inescapable by the will of his spirit.

I admit, the reasoning Hunger had for this is significantly better than I would have imagined. After having been stabbed by the Apocryphal, telling the Curse to suck his dick and to take its best shot is a ballsy maneuver, fitting for someone who fate has failed entirely. Loving the descriptions of Accretion in action, feels more inspirational and cool than I expected.

In White Wolf terms, they remind me a lot of Daredevils from the Trinity gameline, who has vague probability manipulations powers that made them seem like just shockingly skilled and lucky humans, only distinguishable by the sheer consistency of their success. That said, considering how blatantly superhuman Hunger is, it's clear we should start upping our Rank as fast as possible. Once we're decently positioned, we'll be able to start timeskipping and get into the good stuff. Maybe after we get 1 EFB equivalent to develop over that period.

"I-is all this really necessary?" Letrizia shouted, barely audible over the circle of winds that whipped around him, an intemperate halo.

"Go Hunger! Feed us, yay!!" Gisena cheered, bouncing lightly in place. She'd come over to witness the spectacle, pausing her ominous work on Verschlengorge's missile array. Hair and dress alike fluttered crazily in the wind; he wasn't sure how she could see.

There. A sharp tug and jerk on his line, sudden force as if to pull the rod from his hand.

A big one.

Bringing home the fish-bacon for the wife and kid. I respect that, Hunger. Also, does he seriously get surrounded by a mini-hurricane when he's powering up his Accretion? Provides evidence that Rank is a lot more flexible than we've seen, that we might end up being able to just warp reality with an extertion of will, Nameless style. What really scales me though is how far our Affliction will range. We're a scrub right now and we're draining the continent; a continent buster like a combat type drains an entire solar system. So how much further would a Rank 10's range extend?

I assume that's why Vershlengorge is so diminished. Either they put some restraining bolts on it that ensure its strength stays in the merely planetary range or it's just been starved until its strength is just a shadow of what it used to be. I worry for what it means for us? It would be a significant incentive to specialize in piloting Vershlengorge but that would slow the speed of our Curse mitigation significantly. Our Geas may scale with us but nothing else does; the faster we grow strong the less chance we have of getting unlucky against the Apocryphal.

Then again, I suppose our survival wouldn't really be a matter of luck. Either you develop mechanisms to counteract reality being actively hostile or you die. No real middle ground there, given the sheer length of time it would take to fully mitigate a Curse, even in the most optimistic circumstances.

He stabilized, setting one foot against Verschlengorge's finger to resist his opponent's strength. Hook, line, rod and man bowed taut under the strain, a single parabola of exertion that bound them to the leviathan below. Pressure alone held line and rod together against the forces transmitted; in mortal hands they would long since have snapped.

Perfect description of that first panel of Microwave's picture. Amazing that our boy is doing this with one hand while balancing on a giant robot. Good thing we didn't take the Master Bait; a lesser rod would have snapped in two even with what we managed to summon under -Bait Quality. No point in calling something up if you cannot put it down.

This was no ordinary fish. He, who had the strength of ten men on a poor day, whose line and rod and hook were infused with the power of ruin, was being pressed to the uttermost limit. He sensed deep power here, vigor beyond the limits of muscle and scale. Down below, beneath the windblown chop of the lake surface, he caught a glimpse of movement, an opalescent shimmer that tugged the eye even as it fled from it.

Really, my friend? Infusing your fucking fishing rob with the power to bring ruin? Just what did to expect to call up here? It's not like you knew the fish was magic; you just spent your breath just for kicks. Even if it was normal, wouldn't the power of ruin just kill it and ruin its flesh? As a sidenote, considering that description of its beyond physical strength, does this fucking fish have a Rank? Does it have Pressure?

What legends did this piscine prince accumulate in his time in this lake? Will devouring his flesh let us consume those stories, adding his mythos to our own? I would hope that's one potential upgrade for Hunger, through likely gated behind the Feast if so. I'll still stick with Repose but leaning into the Devourer angle would have been really cool too.

"Gisena!" He roared. "A magical beast!"

She came up beside him, pressed between the fingers of the Armament. Indiscriminate fire would dispel his Pressure and the rod would snap immediately. Carefully she raised her arm and found an angle, open palm launching Null bolts rapid-fire into the depths below.

Moments passed. Gisena shook her head, hair trailing distractingly across his nose and cheek. "It's shrouded by some supernatural murk. I can't get a good lock on it."

Of course it is and of course you can't.

If nothing else, a worthwhile limitation to keep in mind and a reason to work on upgrading our Evening Sky to be resistant to her Nullity. At least the Tide wouldn't require any sort of lock on. Imagine the salt if she ends up depowering a second protagonist in a row. Shit like this is why we need to raise our Rank; if she didn't have a hope of touching us everything would be a lot easier for everyone. That it would let us impressive everyone with our BIG NUMBER is an important secondary benefit.

He grunted, arm livid with strain. The steel wire of the line was beginning to fray visibly, and the wood of the rod was shot through with cracks. Sheer will held them together. He needed a plan.

"I'm going to pull up," he said. "The rod won't last much longer regardless. When I do, fire a wide area attack into the lake. As soon as it passes, I'll give you the rod. Hold the line as long as you can."

"Okay," she nodded, not bothering to ask for an explanation. An orb of concerted Nullity formed around her hand, a thrumming distortion that cleared the appearance of the air rather than twisting it.

"Now!" He heaved upwards, arm and implement pressed to the breaking point, the hollow, scraped-out reserves of his personal might rallying one last time. The fish resisted him, it tugged and thrashed with a congealed river's worth of force, but was pulled skywards in the end, at last visible beneath the waves.

Given how the rod is only being held together through prayer at this point, I wonder how far we need to progress until we can just summon constructs made purely out of will and the power of ruin. Given the description of its power, could the fish have been a spirit of some kind, if one bound to flesh and blood? The avatar of a river displaced by spacial warping into a pond. Now that would be sad. Probably doesn't have Pressure though or I imagine its physical strength would have destroyed our boy.

As a sidenote, oceans in this realm must be absolutely buckwild. Do they ever get displaced onto land? That must be this place's equivalent of floods or monsoons. Imagine just going about your daily business and then getting crushed by a blue whale from outta nowhere.

Gisena swept her arm, Nullity in an arc released before her, catching wind and wave and fish alike. As that rippling translucence passed through, the beast spasmed once and began struggling even more fiercely, but the strength of its movements was lessened, now mere muscle and sinew.

He handed over the ravaged rod and plunged into the water.

It was a great iridescent creature, near serpentine in length, fanged maw snapping impotently at the waters around it. Striations of texture and color crossed its body in thick bands, pearly scales of amber, violet and pale blue that contrasted with the glittering mass of its main body.

Kind of tragic, that such a magnificent beast got eaten because we wanted to instill conceptions of fishing entirely divorced from reality into Letrizia's extremely impressionable brain. I can't imagine her disappointment when she tells whatever friends she has about our extremely rad skills and people let her down by explaining just how boring fishing usually is. I think we owe it to the beast we devoured to ensure Gisena doesn't desecrate its corpse, to say nothing of whatever benefit we might derive from consuming the remnant vitality it possesses.

His hook had dug deep, disappearing down its gullet, and dark crimson blood plumed steadily from its mouth. Even now, denied its supernal primacy, it raged in furious consternation, without a hint of fear in its ruby eyes.

He smirked. It was overlord of this idyllic stretch, the biggest fish in this inland pond. As had been the Tyrant himself, in light of such beings as the Accursed.

something something gnat into a supernova something something cardinalities something something the beyonder is a scrub

More seriously, I suppose some xianxia aphorisms are universal. At least being a big fish in a pond is marginally more flattering than being a frog in the well. Of course, frog or fish has no impact on your courage and virtue. Defiant even if the face of death, his might stripped away from him. Truly, a worthy adversary.

Hallowed energies swam about it as it began to recover from Gisena's assault. Swiftly he drew the Forebear's Blade and in one fluid motion plunged it into the creature's gills. Its scales were dense, layered and overlapping like lacquered armor, but here there was no guard. As it writhed, he sent a pulse of chopping force out through the blade and through its internals, then twisted to send another strike into its brain.

It flailed once, desperately, and went still.

o7, brave soul.

More fuel for my spirit theory though, that its power was described as holy. Considering the name of the previous chapter, was this the pond Excalibur was thrown into? Did this fish have a bit of Excalibur in it or otherwise absorb a fraction of its power? Truly irrespressable vitality though, to recover so quickly from Gisena's nullification. I'm curious to see how it would fare against the Tide.

Moments later he emerged from the lake's surface with the beast strewn across his back. Its bulk rested across his shoulders, head flopping down to his elbow, while its muscular tail dragged sullenly against the ground.

"You did it!" Gisena exclaimed, running down to join him.

"Not... going to take credit... for this?" He panted.

"No," she replied, eyes bright. "Unless you want me to. It's only been a few hours; did you miss my teasing already?"

"I... am going... to lay down." He said, walking up the grassy incline. Upon reaching level ground, he set the fish atop it and sprawled out beside, breathing heavily.

Huh, the fish is smaller than I'd have expected. It seems well within the normal ranges of a big catch, not some person sized behemoth. I love that Gisena is so impressed that she doesn't even feel like bants. Maybe our manly actions and work to provide for the other two made her devastatingly attracted to us? Definitely not but I look forward to her teasing otherwise. Not like we'd be able to reciprocate even if she was; while our skin is woven together from our scars, our mind is like the Bayeux Tapestry. Sorry Gisena, we're a married man, even if our relationship is a bit long distance at the moment.

He should not have done that. It had been an almost completely pointless endeavor. The purpose of this jaunt had been to rest, not to tire himself further. And yet, as he looked at the magnificent catch beside him, he couldn't help but feel that it had all been worth it.

Fuck. He still had to get in the robot after this.

Putting his advice into practice. One day, that 0.25 extra rank will make the difference between life and death. Alternatively, we'll be able to burn this memory to go Super Saiyan again. That actually makes me curious, while the Geas scales up in power as we grow, can it also scale down if the Cursebearer is diminished somehow? I'd assume not because Curses are absolute shitheads like that but maybe the Accursed put in some kinds of contingencies.

Gisena peered down at him, amused, while Letrizia came around to admire the catch.

"You find this... funny?" He asked, still breathing heavily.

The Sorceress smoothed out her dress and sat down beside him. "You tell me, hero. What part of this isn't funny?"

He grunted, raising himself on his elbows, but Gisena placed one delicate hand on his chest and pushed him back down. "Oh no you don't. Rest now, you've earned it."

She smiled slyly. "Or... would you prefer to lay your head on my lap? Fellow Sorceresses tell me it's very comfortable. Our standards are the very highest!"

"Hmph." He closed his eyes. "Arrogant and a liar too. Why do I put up with you?"

She laughed. "Using my own lines against me? How shameless, hero!"

"You don't deserve original lines."

"Hm? And what would one do to earn such an honor?"

"First, catch a legendary fish."

"Well then." She stretched prettily, then got up and stalked around to the other side of the fish. "Perhaps I'll take credit for this one after all."

Ah, but she'd never stop the bants for too long. There's the Gisena we know and most of us manage affectionately tolerate. Is she getting more flirty over time? While the wound kiss was a joke and she wouldn't have done that besides, I'm curious how she would have reacted if he actually just went with the lap pillow. Could we startle her?

This is one of the reasons I want to take Evening Sky; while we've managed to hold our own against her, she's pretty much always at an advantage. Before the end of this quest, I want Hunger to make her heart go doki doki at least once. If that requires us becoming pretty enough to have our face classified as a memetic hazard, then so be it.

As Gisena inspected their catch, he let out another deep breath, staring upwards at the sky.

Twilight had come to their corner of the Voyaging Realm. The sun dipped slowly down the horizon, incandescence like molten wax pooling atop the waters. Above was the first encroachment of the evening dark, faint tracery of the moon and stars, the world grown hushed and still before their emergence. Atop his finger the ring of power shined like a burning jewel, a wound in the world from which no recovery was possible, light like blood spilling into the slowly dimming dusk.

Among the reason I really like these quests is these kinds of descriptions. The imagery and the similes and the metaphor are things that I wish I could think up and put to paper; I aim to do so with most of the things I write even if I'm a few million words away from this level.

That said, forget the feet thing, I swear I'm going to awaken to a sky fetish.

Scraps of shadow, like inverse fireflies, fluttered around the ring-light, orbiting it steadily. Residue of the pirate captain's armor, the Astral equivalent of blood on his knuckles.

He frowned, thinking slowly. Was there some way to capture that power? Harness it, as he'd done to the Forebear's Blade and Tyrant's Ring? He needed some form of supernal protection. The armor's abilities had been impressive, even if its loyalty had been lacking.

But he was unusually skilled at abducting the artifacts of others and binding them to his cause. It was the only field where he'd surpassed the Tyrant definitively. Ring and Blade were willful items both, difficult even to command. And yet he'd succeeded with both, united his will with theirs until there was no distinguishing them. Physically they were discrete objects, but in the realm of spirit they were one being, free of discontinuity. Were his physical form to perish, would he live on in their remnants?

Probably not. He was too weak still. Something to strive for in time. Couldn't let death impede his vengeance.

My god, he's really doubling down on becoming a Dark Lord, huh? What with his plan to make the One Ring and all. Amazing though that he's so talented in Abduction that he's better than a centuries old Tyrant that had been preparing for his whole life, despite being a random highschool student. Maybe we really should have taken the King of Thieves.

That said, I think our artifact set up is pretty good right now. We've got the Blade for offense and stat ups, the Cloak for defense and social and Hunger for scaling and utility. I've been working on something that could hopefully unify them thematically too but I think we're honestly good as far as elements on our panoply go. Better to develop what we have right now than think about messing around with anything else; once our Rank is higher then perhaps we could add Gisena?

Exhausted as he was, he focused again. Remembering how it had felt to lure the tyrant-fish to him. The shape of the Pressure he'd had to exert, its tenor and form. He remembered the hue and spill of that pirate's armor, ink the violet of midnight that rose in steady streamers.

The night sky's incursion against sun and blue.

Evening approached; there was no better time than this. He clenched his fist, and the ring that bore his name flared red, light so bright as to rival the setting sun, and slowly the scraps of shadow surrounding him began to multiply, drawn by the gravitation of the one who had defeated them.

Cool shit, using our ring of power to do stuff. Does this count as Abduction? If so, what effect does Abduction even have on us? We seem more exhausted by our absurd anime fishing than anything else. If we could manage seizing the cloak even after that, then it doesn't seem like the cost is spiritual at least. I'd assume there should be a level of mental contamination but the only reason we had that with our Blade was because of Thick as Thieves.

Just had a thought, what if that bond is what this civilization is missing. They talk about Rank in terms of people but Letrizia didn't mention even once about the bonds between those people and their tools. But then how could the armours have their own Rank? I get the Armaments because they seem like people in their own right and are precursor technology besides but I'm not sure how the Human Sphere managed. Or maybe that's why Versh is diminished, these guys are just completely unable to create a bond with him for whatever reason.

He grasped them, wove them together with his magic and will, usurped them and made them his own. From the jewel of his ring burst forth a cloak, wrapping up and around his arm to rest upon his shoulders. It was the stars and the evening sky, a texture like billowing clouds, the fall of its drape a velvet window into night. Power infused him, boundless and inexorable as the evening itself: against which mundane force could find no purchase, and resilient against stranger assaults.

Incredibly radical. Now our hero has the hunger, the might, the breath and the wings of a dragon. We're really building a worthwhile theme. Just gotta work on unifying it.

Contentedly he closed his eyes. Properly outfitted at last. He recalled the final dictates of destiny, hours before the Tyrant had slain its oracles -

Treasures numbering three,
Ought hero's panoply be.
Crown, Saber and Orb,
Shield, Symbol and Sword,
Blade, Mantle and Ring;
Aloft to murder a king.


It was a childish rhyme, and meaningless. But a cloak - a mantle - was more comfortable than armor, and its magic protected all the same. Let this be their victory as well, they who had first given themselves to shield him from the Tyrant's regard.

Hmm. I'm curious just how much of it was actually childish nonsense. Could it be that we were intended to actually have one set of these symbols to kill the Tyrant and he managed to knock destiny off course by arranging it such that we didn't? The only element of our panoply that was actually ours was the armour, unless we had more that just weren't mentioned. But the only one that might fit even tangentially is as a Shield or a Symbol. This is of course assuming this isn't just a nonsense rhyme Rihaku made up after the fact for the sake of this update.

But what if it wasn't though? Or if it mattered anyway? As we learned from fight with the pirate, the Tyrant had a blade of violet fire. Moreover, we carry his own ring. If he had a mantle too, that would complete the set perfectly. Could that be a method by which he confused fate? If our wife was a princess or something, that could easily make us a future king. And with the revelation of Cursebearers being refereed to as akin to royalty in the Elder Tongue of a realm with powers very similar to our own...

It's probably just apophenia but I'm now really on the lookout.

P.S: 2155 words.
 
The Foremost might've had access to the Noble Praxis, since their civilization had dealings with Cursebearers. Perhaps Hunger could unlock it if he bites on enough of their plot hooks? A lot of ifs, though, and getting access to an inferior version of the Praxis... would that be salt in the wound of Sword's loss, or a powerful consolation prize?

Anyway, the index has been updated, as always let me know if something's missing.
 
[X] Saber
[X] Pass Out

Ah, well, I do want arete and to upgrade Fell-handed Stroke so this will do. My main concern is not getting in the mech.
 
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Aloft to Murder

It began, the herculean struggle between man and beast, the test of patience and timing, of placement and cunning, a contest of wills as much as of strength. Prey and predator were united by hunger as well as happenstance: the fish, to nibble at bait without surrendering its life, and the man, to seize his prize before the lure dissipated.
We've made jokes about the Hero's sudden desire to give his all during his fishing trip, but now that the die has been cast, we can consider the deeper consequences that follow.

Is it merely about fishing? Hardly so, Hunger could have taken the opportunity to relax his tight nerves instead of expending himself so eagerly. Nobody was forcing him otherwise, there was no pressure to accomplish something here. It would have been much saner to rest from his prior battle and give his Presence time to unwind.

Yet he decided to achieve the best result possible, to pit himself against the strongest only, or none at all. Maybe there was some measure of competitiveness driving the Hero, a desire to one-up Gisena in continuation of their endless back and forth, but I have my doubts it was a decisive factor. He's an experienced man that has lived through a guerilla war and lost nearly everything, not a hot-blooded youth that would waste his strength on frivolities easily.

So what could motivate Hunger here? What could overwrite that cold-blooded calculation that didn't flinch in the face of the Accursed's Brand? I'm thinking the Moby-Dick themes are no coincidence, they're a sign of the Hero's issues surfacing again. He hates the Hidden Masters deeply and relentlessly, turning this hatred into motivation and will to continue, but realistically speaking, how long is it going to take for Hunger to reach them? To stand in front of them and revisit every single thing they'd subjected him to upon them a thousandfold? And what are his chances of surviving till then with his mind intact?

Apocrypha had just showed him a tiny fraction of its horrors, dredging up his issues and striking at weakness without hesitation. He's under a Geas to conquer tens of thousands of worlds occupied by an advanced civilization. He carries a Doom and an Affliction that turn this task from 'insanely difficult' to 'there was this kind of mode too? why?!'

That's a lot of stress to pile onto a single man. Perhaps enough stress for him to snap under it and take out all his frustration on some fish. It's not the fish's fault his life sucks so much, but it's there and can be fought.

Though sometimes a fish is just a fish. Maybe Lord Hunger simply takes his dinner very seriously.

Overcome by the moment, defiant against the fates and the world, he spent of himself recklessly, drawing forth every iota of power to bend lake and denizens to his will. His instincts pierced the waters like a great refulgent eye, and the tantalizing gleam and dance of his bait was as a thing of gold, made precious and inescapable by the will of his spirit.

"I-is all this really necessary?" Letrizia shouted, barely audible over the circle of winds that whipped around him, an intemperate halo.
You have much to learn, Letty. Of course it's necessary!

We are not some piddling man with a rod here, we're a Fisherman angling for a Catch! If the world will not acquiesce and produce dramatic winds at the appropriate moments, we'll have to force the matter instead! With Accretion, we're the Main Character of any scene we can out Pressure on, and while Main Characters can fail, even their failure is a mere prelude to greater success!

Unless we're in the horror genre, but how likely is that?

"Go Hunger! Feed us, yay!!" Gisena cheered, bouncing lightly in place. She'd come over to witness the spectacle, pausing her ominous work on Verschlengorge's missile array. Hair and dress alike fluttered crazily in the wind; he wasn't sure how she could see.
Gisena probably doesn't need to see with mundane senses, she's can just as well enjoy the spectacle his magic produces. At least something good has come of our effort - she's not playing with the explosives anymore.

There. A sharp tug and jerk on his line, sudden force as if to pull the rod from his hand.

A big one.
Yeah, given Hunger's current level of strength, anything that can strain him is not going to be a mere fish. It'll be a beast worthy of legend!

He stabilized, setting one foot against Verschlengorge's finger to resist his opponent's strength. Hook, line, rod and man bowed taut under the strain, a single parabola of exertion that bound them to the leviathan below. Pressure alone held line and rod together against the forces transmitted; in mortal hands they would long since have snapped.
So is this where the Rod of Ages comes in? Our fishing implement should break under the burden we've forced onto it, yet our Pressure would not allow that, so it could only transform into something beyond its fragile mortal form. I assume it's not a real Artifact and merely the shape our Pressure takes to influence the world.

Well, even if it's only temporary, it's interesting to see what Accretion Rank can achieve and how it does that. Could we do the same in real combat? Just produce certain special effects unrelated to our Implements with Pressure alone? I'd really like to see some use out of this ability next battle - when we're not as Exhausted, of course.

This was no ordinary fish. He, who had the strength of ten men on a poor day, whose line and rod and hook were infused with the power of ruin, was being pressed to the uttermost limit. He sensed deep power here, vigor beyond the limits of muscle and scale. Down below, beneath the windblown chop of the lake surface, he caught a glimpse of movement, an opalescent shimmer that tugged the eye even as it fled.

"Gisena!" He roared. "A magical beast!"
Of course it has magic. Why wouldn't it have magic? Its scales seem to have some kind of mesmeric attraction attached to them too. A defensive tool, or maybe the means by which it hunts its prey? Of course their influence on the Hero is minimal, but that says nothing about the magic's strength. Failing to affect someone with his Accretion Rank and more importantly experience is hardly grounds for dismissing its effectiveness.

She came up beside him, pressed between the fingers of the Armament. Indiscriminate fire would dispel his Pressure and the rod would snap immediately. Carefully she raised her arm and found an angle, open palm launching Null bolts rapid-fire into the depths below.
We really need to do something about our incompatibility. There are so many tactics that could become available to us if only we could cooperate with Gisena properly! Evening Sky is a step in the right direction, but we'd still lose some of our defense if splashed by her shots, so some resistance would be even better.
Ahh, hindsight is 20/20, we could have probably just as easily racked up some points with her without trusting Gisena initially. Well, I guess I'll wait for the final judgement until she has a go at our Curses.

Moments passed. Gisena shook her head, hair trailing distractingly across his nose and cheek. "It's shrouded by some supernatural murk. I can't get a good lock on it."
Eyes on the prize, Hero! Remember your wife and child and stay strong! This probably isn't the first supernaturally beautiful woman you've seen, - I sincerely doubt there was a lack of those in Tyrant's world, given both Accretion's effects on its users and the mentions of Fae, - and she's by far not the last you'll encounter on your journey. No matter how many times she shows you her feet, don't fall to temptation!

It's curious how her senses can't push past the fish's concealment. Maybe they're much better at parsing obvious in your face effects like the Curses and don't function as well when doing subtler stuff. Then again, it might be something she can train and just didn't have an incentive to before this - if she wanted to deal with stealth effects before, all she had to do was hit the rough area with a wide-ranging dispeller.

He grunted, arm livid with strain. The steel wire of the line was beginning to fray visibly, and the wood of the rod was shot through with cracks. Sheer will held them together. He needed a plan.

"I'm going to pull up," he said. "The rod won't last much longer regardless. When I do, fire a wide area attack into the lake. As soon as it passes, I'll give you the rod. Hold the line as long as you can."
A sound idea. Trying to outlast the monster isn't going to work, whether because we're likely to tire out earlier or because the rod won't survive for long, so it's best to cut the knot and give Gisena a clear shot. Not as sold on having her take over later, but her superhuman stats should be worth something.

"Okay," she nodded, not bothering to ask for an explanation. An orb of concerted Nullity formed around her hand, a thrumming distortion that cleared the appearance of the air rather than twisting it.
Probably just special effects, but it's also possible there's some kind of persistent magical effect permeating the whole Realm and she's dispelling it locally. I don't think she's advanced enough to dispel reality itself through sheer concentrated Null quite yet. While Graces can be quite ridiculous too when taken far enough, she's still only a Three Grace Sorceress.

"Now!" He heaved upwards, arm and implement pressed to the breaking point, the hollow, scraped-out reserves of his personal might rallying one last time. The fish resisted him, it tugged and thrashed with a congealed river's worth of force, but was pulled skywards in the end, at last visible beneath the waves.
It also has water magic? Naturally it has water magic, it's a fish. I'm really curious what sort of loot we can get from the fish. We don't have the Talon to transform prey directly into useful materials, but surely something as obviously magical as this fish has something nice to offer! Or at least something tasty.

Gisena swept her arm, Nullity in an arc released before her, catching wind and wave and fish alike. As that rippling translucence passed through, the beast spasmed once and began struggling even more fiercely, but the strength of its movements was lessened, now mere muscle and sinew.
Gisena brings her own brand of fairness into the fight - no more supernatural tricks for you, mister Fish! I wonder if it's a prolonged effect or just a disruption of its current spell. Given past experience I'd tip on the former, so this should be over fairly soon.

He handed over the ravaged rod and plunged into the water.

It was a great iridescent creature, near serpentine in length, fanged maw snapping impotently at the waters around it. Striations of texture and color crossed its body in thick bands, pearly scales of amber, violet and pale blue that contrasted with the glittering mass of its main body.
Someday I'll be able to read through one of Rihaku's updates without having to look up a single word, I'm sure! That day is not today. Not sure I could have even if English was my first language, there's a difference between knowing a language and wielding it as a literary tool.

So it really was a Seven Colored Fish! We might not be ready to d-duel yet, but a road, no matter how long, always starts with a first step.

His hook had dug deep, disappearing down its gullet, and dark crimson blood plumed steadily from its mouth. Even now, denied its supernal primacy, it raged in furious consternation, without a hint of fear in its ruby eyes.

He smiled. It was overlord of this idyllic stretch, the biggest fish in this inland pond. As had been the Tyrant himself, in light of such beings as the Accursed.
I don't think there are words for a proper comparison of how far apart they are. Even comparing a speck of dust to a vast universe doesn't begin to describe the gulf between the Tyrant and the Accursed. Even in comparison to the Hidden Masters he wasn't much - we'll likely exceed his projected power level even before finishing this world, and the Rank 10 that far surpasses Tyrant's limits is still very far from being enough to challenge them from what I understood.

Hallowed energies swam about as it began to recover from Gisena's assault. Swiftly he drew the Forebear's Blade and in one fluid motion plunged it into the creature's gills. Its scales were dense, layered and overlapping like lacquered armor, but physical necessity left these unguarded. As it writhed, he sent a pulse of chopping force out through the blade and into its internals, then twisted cruelly, sending a second strike towards its brain.

It flailed once, desperately, and went still.
Yeah, once the Ruinous Blade is inside them and has a chance to release some hits from within, it's pretty much game over for most creatures of our level without a healing factor. And that's without using the Fell-Handed Tempest!

Moments later he emerged from the lake's surface with the beast strewn across his back. Its bulk was heavy across his shoulders, head flopping down to his elbow, while its muscular tail dragged sullenly against the ground.

"You did it!" Gisena exclaimed, running down to join him.

"Not... going to take credit... for this?" He panted.

"No," she replied, eyes bright. "Unless you want me to. It's only been a few hours; did you miss my teasing already?"

"I... am going... to lay down." He said, walking up the grassy incline. Upon reaching level ground, he set the fish atop it and sprawled out beside, breathing heavily.
Haah, there's no winning with this one. I'm starting to suspect she's earnest about her pursuit of the Hero. Which paradoxically makes me worry about her own mental state - Hunger's Curses should be clear as day to her, bright blood red letters of evil painted all over his magic, so to say.

Every moment she spends with the Hero means both risking her life to Apocrypha and losing her youth and vigor to Decimation. And she should also be aware that Hunger is going to grow far beyond her in the foreseeable future, so the relationship is going to be quite unbalanced should they come together.

Just how nihilistic is she if none of that scares her off?

He should not have done that. It had been an almost completely pointless endeavor. The purpose of this jaunt had been to rest, not to tire himself further. And yet, as he looked at the magnificent catch beside him, he couldn't help but feel that it had all been worth it.

Fuck. He still had to get in the robot after this.
Let's call it an active rest day and try not to repeat it too often. Hopefully we'll calm down a bit after reaching civilization and having a chance to properly exert that Nightmare Praetor brain. We're supposed to be calm and composed, remember, so no flying off after a shiny or an awesome scene more than half of the time.

Gisena peered down at him, amused, while Letrizia came around to admire the catch.

"You find this... funny?" He asked, still breathing heavily.

The Sorceress smoothed out her dress and sat down beside him. "You tell me, hero. What part of this isn't funny?"
It's pretty hilarious from where I'm sitting, so I can understand her somewhat. I don't think the Hero shares my appreciation though.

At least Letrizia has the good sense to appreciate our efforts!

He grunted, raising himself on his elbows, but Gisena placed one delicate hand on his chest and pushed him back down. "Oh no you don't. Rest now, you've earned it."

She smiled slyly. "Or... would you prefer to lay your head on my lap? Fellow Sorceresses tell me it's very comfortable. Our standards are the very highest!"
Hah, we're immunized against such threats after getting second-hand accounts of Imperia's lap pillows! Do your worst, we'll never bend to your will, Nullity. Unless you have the resolve necessary to overcome an ultra-long route like that, don't even bother.

"Hmph." He closed his eyes. "Arrogant and a liar too. Why do I put up with you?"

She laughed. "Using my own lines against me? How shameless, hero!"

"You don't deserve original lines."

"Hm? And what would one do to earn such an honor?"

"First, catch a legendary fish."

"Well then." She stretched prettily, then got up and stalked around to the other side of the fish. "Perhaps I'll take credit for this one after all."
To be fair, it was at least half her work and success. Without that dispelling the Fish would have escaped.

As Gisena inspected their catch, he let out another deep breath, staring upwards at the sky.

Twilight had come to their corner of the Voyaging Realm. The sun dipped slowly down the horizon, incandescence like molten wax pooling atop the waters. Above was the first encroachment of the evening dark, faint tracery of the moon and stars, the world grown hushed and still like an expectant audience. Atop his finger the ring of power shined, a burning jewel, a wound in the world from which no recovery was possible, light like blood spilling into the slowly dimming dusk.

Scraps of shadow, like inverse fireflies, fluttered around the ring-light, orbiting it steadily. Residue of the pirate captain's armor, the Astral equivalent of blood on his knuckles.
So this is why we needed a whole 7 Arete points to reel that Sky in. We had mere traces to go by, hardly something one can use to capture an intelligent Artifact after it fled beyond the world's borders in normal circumstances.

He frowned, thinking slowly. Was there some way to capture that power? Harness it, as he'd done to the Forebear's Blade and Tyrant's Ring? He needed some form of supernal protection. The armor's abilities had been impressive, even if its loyalty had been lacking.
Thankfully loyalty won't be an issue after this. Though will it retain some measure of intelligence? I find myself missing a voice in our protagonist's head sometimes, and if the Forebear won't oblige, we might have to make do with a less impressive substitute.

Not a Curse though, having them talk to us would be a bit much.

But he was unusually skilled at abducting the artifacts of others and binding them to his cause. It was the only field where he'd surpassed the Tyrant definitively. Ring and Blade were willful items both, difficult even to command. And yet he'd succeeded completely, united his will with theirs until there was no distinguishing them. Physically they were discrete objects, but in the realm of spirit they were one being, free of discontinuity. Were his physical form to perish, would he live on in them as a remnant?

Probably not. He was too weak still. Something to strive for in time. Couldn't let death impede his vengeance.
I'd really like to help you there, Hunger, but it'll likely take a long, long time to gather the necessary Arete for that, especially with Apocrypha hounding our heels constantly.

I wonder where exactly his superior talent in the field of Abduction stems from. Is it a sign of superior will? Likely not alone, maybe combined with the ability to adapt one's spirit and to force changes onto another's. Is it the so called legendary Power of Friendship applied to Artifacts? Too bad we're limited in our number of Artifacts, or we could get some really good use out of this capability.

Exhausted as he was, he focused again. Remembering how it had felt to lure the tyrant-fish to him. The shape of the Pressure he'd had to exert, its tenor and form. He remembered the hue and spill of that pirate's armor, ink the violet of midnight that rose in steady streamers.

The night sky's incursion against sun and blue.

Evening approached; there was no better time than this. He clenched his fist, and the ring that bore his name flared red, light so bright as to rival the setting sun, and slowly the scraps of shadow surrounding him began to multiply, drawn by the gravitation of the one who had defeated them.
Nice. He's using every available factor to perform the act - the Pressure 'spell' he'd learned while catching the Fish, the memory, the ambiance and time, and as a key the leftover fragments from its defeat by his hand. As I previously said, I'm really curious to see what kind of things Pressure can do by itself. Maybe we'll acquire some magics reliant on it? Though relying on an Artifact to enact reality-bending effects is probably much more efficient.

He grasped them, wove them together with his magic and will, usurped them and made them his own. From the jewel of his ring burst forth a cloak, wrapping up and around his arm to rest upon his shoulders. It was the stars and the evening sky, a texture like billowing clouds, the fall of its drape a velvet window into night. Power infused him, boundless and inexorable as the evening itself: against which mundane force could find no purchase, and resilient against stranger assaults.
Most importantly, we can make the snazzy cloak go swish whenever we want. Never again will we lack for a dramatic entrance!

The protection is more impressive than I thought. Or maybe the description about mundane force is poetic exaggeration? In any case we finally have some defenses. We might have passed up that battlefield healing, but this should make up for that somewhat.

Contentedly he closed his eyes. Properly outfitted at last. He recalled the final dictates of destiny, hours before the Tyrant had slain its oracles -

Treasures numbering three,
Ought hero's panoply be.
Crown, Saber and Orb,
Shield, Symbol and Sword,
Blade, Mantle and Ring;
Aloft to murder a king.
We even have a prophecy that fits this! Is this how the Tyrant defeated fate? By killing its agents? Sounds a bit too easy, to be honest.

Still, Hunger might have killed the Tyrant already without destiny's support, but one can't be a proper Hero without prophetic doom and gloom! So the ensemble is finally complete, next step is polishing them till they're worthy of being called weapons of legend.

It was a childish rhyme, and meaningless. But a cloak - a mantle - was more comfortable than armor, and its magic protected all the same. Let this be their victory as well, they who had first given themselves to shield him from the Tyrant's regard.
Even now it feels weird to count destiny's stewards among our allies after last quest. I get where he's coming from, but I don't think I'll ever lose my suspicions about them.

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You have gained [X] Fell-Handed Stroke and the [X] Evening Sky.

Having overcome the King Fish, a feat of great, prowess, you may choose a benefit:

[ ] Crown - +.25 Astral Rank. Your Astral Rank is now 3.75, though see Exhausted, below.

[ ] Saber - Restore a fraction of the Forebear's Blade, extending its reach and sharpness with all the advantages that entails. Once per battle, may defer the cost of Fell-Handed Stroke until the fight concludes.

[ ] Orb - Gain title, [Master Baiter]. ++Manipulation when provoking enemies to attack you, or ++Bait Quality for Fishing and fishing-analogous tasks.

You are currently Exhausted, unable to exert Pressure in most circumstances, though the abilities of your panoply remain active. Needless to say, if attacked you will be at a significant disadvantage. A day's rest will render you merely Tired.

And yet, a hero's work is never done. What now to do?

[ ] Dress the Fish - Help Gisena clean, dress, and investigate the King Fish. Its magical power was immense. What secrets lie beneath its treasure-laden scales? [+Gisena, +?]

[ ] Get In The Robot - Investigate the Armament and its connection with your Curse. Praehihr, it called you. Have the Foremost encountered Cursebearers before? You can, of course, get in the robot later, while the King Fish may be decomposing now. But matters regarding your Curses must take higher priority. Affects characterization.
[++Letrizia, +?, -Gisena]

[ ] Pass Out - This mantle is comfy. +1 Arete; 29 days of A Hunger Sated remain. Wastes the night.
Having seen some of the crazy things Accretion Rank allows one to do in this update, I'm kind of tempted to take up the Crown. Still, it gives us no immediate benefits, since we'll have to wait out the Exhaustion debuff to take advantage of it. Orb has great synergy with our build, but it seems to have lost traction completely, so I guess Sword it is.
Not that it is a bad pack in itself, restoring the Blade always has worth, and getting in a 'free' Fell-Strike can be the difference between life and death, especially in our current state.

Still want to dress the fish though. After all the work chasing this mystery box, giving up before the last step just feels weird.

[X] Saber
[X] Dress the Fish
 
I really want Sword to win. I think it's the best option here for our circumstances by far.

But to be clear it doesn't give you a "free fell-strike". It lets you defer the cost once, until after the battle. So Hero can use it once and fight at full power still, but will feel the drain after.
 
[X] Saber
[X] Pass Out


Was gonna rag on Saber for being weaksauce even as I voted for it, but looking back it hangs together well even if it isn't powerful. If we're no longer about to collapse afterward, Spirit/Will bleed and blocking regen mean we basically win evenish fights if this lands. (Well, landing a super attack is supposed to be a win, but still.) And now we can avoid getting swarmed by mooks after smashing their boss.

It's not awesome, but it is kinda solid, so I'll vote for it without whining.
 
More fuel for my spirit theory though, that its power was described as holy. Considering the name of the previous chapter, was this the pond Excalibur was thrown into? Did this fish have a bit of Excalibur in it or otherwise absorb a fraction of its power? Truly irrespressable vitality though, to recover so quickly from Gisena's nullification. I'm curious to see how it would fare against the Tide.

That wide-area attack was a Tide of Nullity! Just a smaller one.

Huh, the fish is smaller than I'd have expected. It seems well within the normal ranges of a big catch, not some person sized behemoth.

Mm, it's about 8-9 feet long and thicker around than his torso by a significant degree.

That said, I think our artifact set up is pretty good right now. We've got the Blade for offense and stat ups, the Cloak for defense and social and Hunger for scaling and utility. I've been working on something that could hopefully unify them thematically too but I think we're honestly good as far as elements on our panoply go. Better to develop what we have right now than think about messing around with anything else; once our Rank is higher then perhaps we could add Gisena?

You can't add a person to your panoply! Unless that person is an aeons-old biomechanispiritual horror utilized to suborn the nature of physical reality to its pilot's will, or something...

Apocrypha had just showed him a tiny fraction of its horrors, dredging up his issues and striking at weakness without hesitation. He's under a Geas to conquer tens of thousands of worlds occupied by an advanced civilization. He carries a Doom and an Affliction that turn this task from 'insanely difficult' to 'there was this kind of mode too? why?!'

Some say that being hardcore is its own reward.

Though sometimes a fish is just a fish. Maybe Lord Hunger simply takes his dinner very seriously.

Oh, the next update will make clear just how seriously he does...

Just how nihilistic is she if none of that scares her off?

Gisena's got that Manic Nihilist Dream Girl energy. It's open to interpretation how forward her flirting exactly is, though...

Is it the so called legendary Power of Friendship applied to Artifacts?

Hm... I wonder...
 
I'm trying to do some Astral Rank science on the many pieces we have laid out, before Zee, Hunger, and Gisena can pre-empt me and make me feel Even Further Behind than I already am.

A curse "inextricable from [an armament's] core essence" allows them to reach above the "middle [Accretion] ranks," where the Hero and the Tyrant at their peak were. Hunger chose his name, after his Accretion-bound Curse-powered artifact, that he might gain more power and hopefully blunt the Decimator's Affliction. This makes me think a few things.

First, there's some relationship between Curses<>Narrative/Behavior/Reality?<>Accretion that's tighter than I assumed. My brain hurts trying to articulate this, because I feel like I'm stating the obvious. Maybe the non-obvious bit is that Curses do seem to play by Accretion-y rules and not just because a Cursebearer has Accretion (bearing in mind this local reality has an incredibly limited perspective, etc.). But the point is that there's a... more consistent Ranky/Astral underpinning to things like naming Hunger after his ring and the Affliction being sated for some reason* that we can science to make predictions about stuff, whereas previously I was resigned to just enjoying stuff as it happened. (Obviously there was a science, Zee told us, but the shape is becoming more apparent.)

Second, that Hunger is much smarter than I am, because he was all "yep, this will probably work," and I only now have the pieces to follow his train of thought after a few days.

*Third, Hungerring>Hungerman>Decimation was probably because Hunger was mondo-pissed, and only worked because the man was being like the ring (intense emotion) and a connection between the ring and the curse had been made. That's a garbage sentence, but it's interesting because the fight was playing strongly to the ring's themes and not so much the curse's. There's no sense of emotion to the curse, but the Hungers might have... tacked it on? Walk like them until they walk like you?

Fourth, we gotta get in the robot, because presumably it's doing a shitload of mitigation that we could copy. It took a chomp out of the dragon, which maaaay not be polite, but hey, curses. Why does it have three heads? Verschlegorge-sempai might teach us much.

Fourth-and-a-half, both us and big V are diminished... this feels like a separate thing from the big idea but everything else seems relevant so I'm not sure. Eh.

Fifth, this presumably applies beyond Decimation. We have 3+Apocyphral Curses and 3+Self Artifacts. We'll visit as many worlds as there are stars in the evening sky (well, actually like 10000x more, but that's pretty close). Also, the mantle is literally on our back, like the Geas metaphorically is. Don't know how Tyrant-like the Forebear was, but he was the Forebear of the Tyrant and his mental pollution gives us ruthlessness, so it fits. So yeah, we got a thing here, I think. Specific idea: Forebear's Blade being wielded>someone counts as "us" and we don't chafe under their suggestions? The Tyrant Hunger works name-wise, taking "Indentured" or "Bound" or whatever becomes unwieldy, hm.

Any or all of this may be bullshit, of course. What do y'all think?
 
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Dress the Fish and Pass Out are currently tied in obvious votes.

Saber is only just behind Crown.

@ReaderOfFate: Your (saber?) vote failed, you only managed the first two letters. Mind fixing it if you have a moment?
Adhoc vote count started by Byzantine on May 28, 2020 at 7:41 PM, finished with 215 posts and 53 votes.
 
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"Found a new toy?" Gisena smiled happily as he walked around to her side of the fish.

"No. It clung to me out of nowhere," he deadpanned, running a hand over the scales. They varied in tone and texture, some clacking with the ceramic smoothness of porcelain, while others resembled jewels or gold.

"Such a humble hero," she said, coming to his side. She laid her fingers against his new cloak. Her eyes flashed, changing color, become emerald green instead of blue.

"What's that?" He gestured at her face.

"Hm? My beautiful face, of course."

He scowled.

"Oh? Do I have something on my face? This beauty mark, perhaps? It's very fetching, I know."
 
Ah? Wonder how long until your Beauty mark reaches Nasuverse Diarmuid territory. 4th Coalescence? 5th Coalescence? Also the eye color change effect? Was the fish a cognitohazard/possessor/mindcontroller? *Leaping to ridiculous conclusions*.
 
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