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A Second Sunrise: Taiwan of 2020 Sent Back to 1911
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- Original Modern Post-1900
, when they mass produce them it GG thenAnd that Information joke
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- India
What is the reaction in Taiwan after bloodbath in india? Any changes in British political landscape?
ChrisProvidence
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China:
"My God, how awful. However, we must not start a world war over this. (Quick, start shipping over all those Indians who've been training in our territory for the last few years and supplying them with guns)."
Meanwhile in Britain:
Yeah… Turns out when Dyer retired, there were people who spoke highly of him.
That's going to be a thing. Daily Mail is going to have a field day with this.
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So to sum up the last three posts:
More Than Roommates:
China is basically the most LGBT-friendly place in the setting by default, so LGBT folks keep moving there through immigration loopholes.
Crimson Wingman:
The Chinese Air Force is full of new pilots and Ace Combat fans.
Things Nanjing Accord Personnel Are No Longer Allowed to Do:
Former Communist Chinese double agent has seen it all, at this point.
More Than Roommates:
China is basically the most LGBT-friendly place in the setting by default, so LGBT folks keep moving there through immigration loopholes.
Crimson Wingman:
The Chinese Air Force is full of new pilots and Ace Combat fans.
Things Nanjing Accord Personnel Are No Longer Allowed to Do:
Former Communist Chinese double agent has seen it all, at this point.
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- India
Is there any concrete plan regarding india among strategists of Nanjing Accord?
I mean, that's kind of discriminatory towards the Japanese. The uptime JSDF is famous for having a long tradition of painting nose art of anime girls. I don't see why ISOTed Japanese members of the armed forces shouldn't be allowed to continue that tradition, or to expand it to their comrades in arms.
After all, why should air crews be allowed to draw western-style scantily clad women while being forbidden to draw anime girls instead?
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- San Francisco
Anymore*
They only stopped putting it in round 1911 I believe.
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- Canada
Later than that, according to Snopes, though it was only tiny amounts by the turn of the century, as they switched to 'decocainized' coca leaves. That process wasn't perfected until 1929, up until which the cocaine content of Coca-Cola was estimated to be something like 1 part in 50 million. Still, they lobbied heavily for exclusions to anti-narcotics laws, and got special provisions to continue importing coca leaves in 1922, which were grandfathered in to all future legislation.
As such, the Coke entry on the list is factually incorrect at this time. Coca-Cola still contains cocaine at this point in the story, though it's almost certainly not enough to notice.
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MIB Discussion on Indian Situation, 19 October 1919 (TS-Clearance Required)
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Transcript of discussion between two members of the Military Intelligence Bureau. For the purposes of security, their names have been redacted.
ML: "Christ, [RF]. India is turning into a powder keg, isn't it?"
RF: "Yes. Riots have spread across the Raj to other cities. Even Burma is having their own riots."
ML: "How is London reacting?"
RF: "Garrison and colonial forces, coupled with local elites' personal forces, are being mobilized to crack down on the protests."
ML: "Will it work?"
RF: "It is possible. But one cannot solve their problems through violence alone."
ML: "Yeah, I get that, [RF]. So, what's the plan?"
RF: "Right now?"
ML: "Yeah."
RF: "We already have propaganda campaigns through our Ghadar and INC contacts. They will be having a field day making the British and their allies look awful."
ML: "Okay. And the sympathizers in the military?"
RF: "We expect defections within the next few months. Unsurprisingly, most people don't like shooting and beating unarmed civilians. However, we could expect to see reinforcements coming from the rest of the Empire.
ML: "Which will only escalate things. Great. What are our options?"
RF: "Nanjing has issued a full condemnation of the action, along with the rest of the NA forces. We, on the other hand, have been given the green light to begin supporting Ghadar forces in India. There are about five thousand of them, trained and ready to go."
ML: "It's risky. Technically, there is some legalese we can use to "honorably discharge" them from the Foreign Legion. Besides, we all knew that they were joining up to train on modern weaponry for a moment like this. Same with the Viet- I mean, Indochinese that are part of the Foreign Legion."
RF: "Five thousand is not enough to start a revolution, [ML]."
ML: "It worked for Garibaldi, [RF]."
RF: "War has changed since Garibaldi's time. Any force would need logistics, support, propaganda, recruitment, and trainers. We could provide it, but Nanjing is hesitant, to say the least."
ML: "I get it. Sun doesn't want to start a war when we're getting back our home next year. I think we have a solution, though."
RF: "We can't arm rebels. The moment the British find one of our rifles in the hands of the Ghadarites, we would be knee-deep in an international incident."
ML: "We're not going to arm them in India. There isn't anything saying that we can't arm them in China, though."
RF: "Is this going where I think it is?"
ML: "Yeah, [RF] it is. The Foreign Legion would need more funding, but we could start recruiting volunteers who are pissed-off at the British. Hell, the Ghadarites are already doing it already, with our okay."
RF: "How many are you thinking, [ML]?"
ML: "Could we do fifty thousand?"
RF: "Could we? Yes. It would be expensive, but it is doable. Should we, however, is a different question."
ML: "We'd basically be doing what we are already doing. Just on a larger scale."
RF: "And if the British find out?"
ML: "Well, everything we are doing is legal. It's not really that different than all the Indians who go here for education. If they want to have a bunch of pissed-off Indians running around the subcontinent and taking pot shots at some Afrikaner they brought over, then they can be my guest."
RF: (Audible Sigh) "It's doable. The only issue is getting them over here."
ML: "Ghadar and INC are already having dissenters come over here. Wouldn't be too hard to fund an expanded op. Might even get us some more support, honestly."
RF: "Then it is doable. More than doable, once the paperwork is filled."
ML: "Good. Will that be all, [RF]?"
RF: "Besides scouting missions against the Cellular Jail, that is all there is for India."
ML: "Any update on that?"
RF: "The good news is that it can be taken."
ML: "And the bad news?"
RF: "We do not have the manpower for this. Not a full-on assault, anyways."
ML: "How about black operations?"
RF: "...I will need to get back to you on that."
ML: "Christ, [RF]. India is turning into a powder keg, isn't it?"
RF: "Yes. Riots have spread across the Raj to other cities. Even Burma is having their own riots."
ML: "How is London reacting?"
RF: "Garrison and colonial forces, coupled with local elites' personal forces, are being mobilized to crack down on the protests."
ML: "Will it work?"
RF: "It is possible. But one cannot solve their problems through violence alone."
ML: "Yeah, I get that, [RF]. So, what's the plan?"
RF: "Right now?"
ML: "Yeah."
RF: "We already have propaganda campaigns through our Ghadar and INC contacts. They will be having a field day making the British and their allies look awful."
ML: "Okay. And the sympathizers in the military?"
RF: "We expect defections within the next few months. Unsurprisingly, most people don't like shooting and beating unarmed civilians. However, we could expect to see reinforcements coming from the rest of the Empire.
ML: "Which will only escalate things. Great. What are our options?"
RF: "Nanjing has issued a full condemnation of the action, along with the rest of the NA forces. We, on the other hand, have been given the green light to begin supporting Ghadar forces in India. There are about five thousand of them, trained and ready to go."
ML: "It's risky. Technically, there is some legalese we can use to "honorably discharge" them from the Foreign Legion. Besides, we all knew that they were joining up to train on modern weaponry for a moment like this. Same with the Viet- I mean, Indochinese that are part of the Foreign Legion."
RF: "Five thousand is not enough to start a revolution, [ML]."
ML: "It worked for Garibaldi, [RF]."
RF: "War has changed since Garibaldi's time. Any force would need logistics, support, propaganda, recruitment, and trainers. We could provide it, but Nanjing is hesitant, to say the least."
ML: "I get it. Sun doesn't want to start a war when we're getting back our home next year. I think we have a solution, though."
RF: "We can't arm rebels. The moment the British find one of our rifles in the hands of the Ghadarites, we would be knee-deep in an international incident."
ML: "We're not going to arm them in India. There isn't anything saying that we can't arm them in China, though."
RF: "Is this going where I think it is?"
ML: "Yeah, [RF] it is. The Foreign Legion would need more funding, but we could start recruiting volunteers who are pissed-off at the British. Hell, the Ghadarites are already doing it already, with our okay."
RF: "How many are you thinking, [ML]?"
ML: "Could we do fifty thousand?"
RF: "Could we? Yes. It would be expensive, but it is doable. Should we, however, is a different question."
ML: "We'd basically be doing what we are already doing. Just on a larger scale."
RF: "And if the British find out?"
ML: "Well, everything we are doing is legal. It's not really that different than all the Indians who go here for education. If they want to have a bunch of pissed-off Indians running around the subcontinent and taking pot shots at some Afrikaner they brought over, then they can be my guest."
RF: (Audible Sigh) "It's doable. The only issue is getting them over here."
ML: "Ghadar and INC are already having dissenters come over here. Wouldn't be too hard to fund an expanded op. Might even get us some more support, honestly."
RF: "Then it is doable. More than doable, once the paperwork is filled."
ML: "Good. Will that be all, [RF]?"
RF: "Besides scouting missions against the Cellular Jail, that is all there is for India."
ML: "Any update on that?"
RF: "The good news is that it can be taken."
ML: "And the bad news?"
RF: "We do not have the manpower for this. Not a full-on assault, anyways."
ML: "How about black operations?"
RF: "...I will need to get back to you on that."
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ChrisProvidence
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For the record, I did say "No more CIA Shenanigans."
The MIB, however, is not part of the CIA.
The MIB, however, is not part of the CIA.
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Not to mention they're targeting a group that honestly deserves getting knocked down a peg... or a dozen, after all the shit they pulled over the last hundred years and change.
Amen brother! Let's hope anime series that got cancelled due to the event gets picked up by local animation studios as well.
Memo: The Western Front (Translated from French)
ChrisProvidence
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With communications as it is, it is imperative that we face the reality that we are in a two-front conflict.
To the outside, we are surrounded by enemies. The Low Countries, Britain, and Germany are in a united front based around ideological lines. Similar sentiment seems to be true with regard to Italy, while Spanish sympathizers indicate that the King is turning to them as well.
Of course, there is the consolation that our new Chinese allies have provided us with the means to at least defend our coasts, but the fact remains that we are surrounded.
However, it is our domestic front that is most perilous.
While we do maintain popular support, it is clear that the OAS is likely rooting itself into every aspect of the government and armed forces they can as fast as we can root them out.
With this, it is likely that they will attempt to launch a coup when they believe this is viable. While we are capable of rooting out sympathizers at a decent rate through counter-infiltration, it may not be enough to prevent them from springing their trap.
To that end, we will be pursuing a new strategy. Rather than rooting out every aspect of the OAS, we will instead turn and subvert known members while continuing counter-infiltration.
We will do this through any and all means necessary. I leave this up to your discretion.
Once the counter-infiltration and counter-subversion has gained enough influence in the movement, we will make our own move.
By springing their trap on our own terms.
It is a great risk, yes, but it is better than out current path. To quote an old Irish saying, "They have to be lucky all the time. We only have to be lucky once."
Now, that will cut both ways.
To the outside, we are surrounded by enemies. The Low Countries, Britain, and Germany are in a united front based around ideological lines. Similar sentiment seems to be true with regard to Italy, while Spanish sympathizers indicate that the King is turning to them as well.
Of course, there is the consolation that our new Chinese allies have provided us with the means to at least defend our coasts, but the fact remains that we are surrounded.
However, it is our domestic front that is most perilous.
While we do maintain popular support, it is clear that the OAS is likely rooting itself into every aspect of the government and armed forces they can as fast as we can root them out.
With this, it is likely that they will attempt to launch a coup when they believe this is viable. While we are capable of rooting out sympathizers at a decent rate through counter-infiltration, it may not be enough to prevent them from springing their trap.
To that end, we will be pursuing a new strategy. Rather than rooting out every aspect of the OAS, we will instead turn and subvert known members while continuing counter-infiltration.
We will do this through any and all means necessary. I leave this up to your discretion.
Once the counter-infiltration and counter-subversion has gained enough influence in the movement, we will make our own move.
By springing their trap on our own terms.
It is a great risk, yes, but it is better than out current path. To quote an old Irish saying, "They have to be lucky all the time. We only have to be lucky once."
Now, that will cut both ways.
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One Year Later
"Code Geass is Chinese propaganda."
-The Daily Mail
*Pokémon TTRPG is now a thing*
*Satanic Panic except it's with Yu-Gi-Oh!*
*Isekai becomes the most popular genre and it spreads outside anime/manga.*
ChrisProvidence
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Also, since I have been reading the Imperial Regent Quest (Go check it out), I just realized something:
Games Workshop doesn't exist anymore, which means the IP is public domain.
Which means TTS lives on in this setting, and that makes me very happy.
It might be covered in a later section on tabletop gaming in the early 1920's, but there is a burgeoning 3D printed model community since GW isn't around to sell their "Plastic Crack Cocaine" anymore.
Yes, I am still mad about this.
Games Workshop doesn't exist anymore, which means the IP is public domain.
Which means TTS lives on in this setting, and that makes me very happy.
It might be covered in a later section on tabletop gaming in the early 1920's, but there is a burgeoning 3D printed model community since GW isn't around to sell their "Plastic Crack Cocaine" anymore.
Yes, I am still mad about this.
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WORST POSSIBLE TIMELINE /jk
But more seriously, Isekai isn't exactly a modern invention, although I suppose that most of the mythological ones were more Another Kingdom or Trapped in the Underworld or by the Fae. I mean, A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court came out in 1889, and it's pretty much a King Arthur Science!Hero Isekai. The real question is whether Alice in Wonderland counts as an Isekai, and if that means that the English have a claim to being the inventors of the Isekai Genre.
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This alone justifies the entire Chinese military buildup and all the espionage shenanigans.
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This means that Guilliman can finally canoodle with the craftworlders without angry turbonerds throwing a shitfit. Big tiddy eldar gothwife at last!
Games Workshop... Doing they're best to murder their own franchise despite the best efforts of the fans.
(I remember someone wrote that there is not enough salt in the salt mines to be properly salty about GW's shenanigans, while I was there thinking how glad I was I wasn't a collector of the miniatures.)
Can you give review or at least some spoiler about this quest 'Imperial Regent Quest' ? I just want a interesting read with some new idea/tech stuff here without need too much Warhammer 40k lore to even understand what going on here (I only know general idea of warhammer). Last time I read 'Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism' I end up quite burn out here (not that it bad, I can say it really good but in a very slow burn way + 'vietnam PTSD' from that long *ss dwarf arc here, so I end up stop reading for now), the same for 'The long night: ember in the dark', which despite not great early on it become interesting and also have lot of interesting new tech that doesn't necessary go 'grimderp/ww2' style like ship and vehicle here
p/s: I just quick check it and it seem like another heavy narrative quest here =.=! (which I quite a bit tired of if it come to warhammer universe), so unless it SI or cross-over, I guess I may pass this one then (talk about SI and multicross-over, do you know any good warhammer fanfiction ?)
p/s: I just quick check it and it seem like another heavy narrative quest here =.=! (which I quite a bit tired of if it come to warhammer universe), so unless it SI or cross-over, I guess I may pass this one then (talk about SI and multicross-over, do you know any good warhammer fanfiction ?)
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Harry Houdini is out and about during this time. Assuming word gets out about how he does all his tricks, he might end up leaning harder into the side of his carreer where he fought the deeply entrenched scourge of superstition that still gripped large parts of the US (and the world) at this time.
Also, another big thing that's coming up that the Great Journey can derail: PROHIBITION. Weed is one thing, but right now a lot of the American fundamentalists are taking aim at alcohol and working their way towards the their moral crusade amendment.
Also, another big thing that's coming up that the Great Journey can derail: PROHIBITION. Weed is one thing, but right now a lot of the American fundamentalists are taking aim at alcohol and working their way towards the their moral crusade amendment.
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- Neptune
Why the heck would Taiwan obsess about some awful GW Fanon?
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It's more an example about how intellectual property would work, leading to media being picked up.
Less an "obsession" and more a potential that will likely remain "niche" for the near future.
In general, a lot of fandoms and communities of IPs are kept alive through the people who got sent back, allowing for the potential to spread down the road.
It's niche, but it's kind of interesting to see how culture perseveres and spreads.
Less an "obsession" and more a potential that will likely remain "niche" for the near future.
In general, a lot of fandoms and communities of IPs are kept alive through the people who got sent back, allowing for the potential to spread down the road.
It's niche, but it's kind of interesting to see how culture perseveres and spreads.
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As for Houdini, I could see him becoming a sort of early 1920s Mythbusters act, except with superstitions. As he gets on in years, he might shift gears.
Apparently, he had some ties with HP Lovecraft, of all people, which would be an interesting dynamic.
Especially when the Great Journey probably kicks superstition into overdrive.
Apparently, he had some ties with HP Lovecraft, of all people, which would be an interesting dynamic.
Especially when the Great Journey probably kicks superstition into overdrive.
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Well, SUPPOSEDLY he met Lovecraft. What is known is that Lovecraft ghostwrote a story for him, "Under the Pyramids", which featured an army of mummies beneath the Sphinx. If he hadn't made Houdini faint in it, it would probably read a lot like a two-fisted tale of action and horror. Weird Fiction is just taking off here, which in itself is cool because now we can imagine the response of authors like Robert Bloch and Lovecraft to both material from the New Weird movement and from a world that has radically altered around them as a result of the Great Journey.