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A Matter of Worth (Worm/Mighty Thor, alt-power, DEAD)

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In the words of the Illustrious Miss Swift: haters gonna hate (hate, hate, hate, hate). Baby, I'm just gonna shake (shake, shake, shake, shake), I shake it off, I shake it off. ;)

Seriously, hang in there! I've thoroughly enjoyed it all so far.
 
kel said:
I'm just going to wait to see what the author does in regard to school. She can't really hit them with mjolnir or level the school because that would make her unworthy of the hammer so the author must have somthing planed.
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Actually smiting the school might not make her unworthy. Remember Taylor can lift Mjolnir, this means she has been judged as worthy of being Thor. Any insult or attack on her worth is an attack on the worth of Thor. Insulting a God generally gets one smote by the god in question. From the perspective of Odin her not responding to the attacks and allowing the worth of Thor to be diminished might be seen as less worthy than smiting them.
 
Complaining about a fight with Lung is silly. There arn't any other Brutes in Brockton Bay that are tough enough for her to have an actual fight with (aside from mabye Assault).

And frankly, it's a thing in the actual original Worm that Taylor's powers help her with pretty much nothing in her civilian life.
 
Logically Random said:
Actually smiting the school might not make her unworthy. Remember Taylor can lift Mjolnir, this means she has been judged as worthy of being Thor. Any insult or attack on her worth is an attack on the worth of Thor. Insulting a God generally gets one smote by the god in question. From the perspective of Odin her not responding to the attacks and allowing the worth of Thor to be diminished might be seen as less worthy than smiting them.
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I don't know about the comics, but that's exactly the kind of thinking that led to Thor getting the boot in the movie.
 
Man, two chapters in one day! I'm so pumped for the next chapters! I'm really enjoying this fanfic so far, and I can't wait to see where you take this idea.
 
KindaLazy said:
I don't know about the comics, but that's exactly the kind of thinking that led to Thor getting the boot in the movie.
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There is a difference between smiting those lesser than you for no reason and smiting someone who both insults your dead mother and implies that you are doing drugs to get you in trouble. If you tried doing either to Odin your constituent particles would be scattered half way to Andromeda.
 
I think this is pretty good, keep up the good work. I for one enjoy Lung fights as long as they are done well, and you certainly did a good job. To those of you complaining about how the story is not going the way you think it should go, I would recommend writing your own story so you can have it go however your little heart desires. Otherwise heed this peice of advice "quit yer bitching". (Obviously this is not targeted at people who are leaving constructive criticism)
 
Hey, I just want to reinforce the message that you shouldn't let the negativity get to you. I think that the reason so many people are upset is that you have a really exciting premise. That's a great thing! It captured the imagination of a lot of people. They started thinking about where things might go and got excited about it because you did such a great job of it. They're just being petty because you're taking the story in your own direction (because you're the author, duh!).
Anyway, just try to think of the positive. There are already so many people that really care about this story just a few chapters in!
 
Twei said:
To be fair, the school stuff seems... worse for no real reason? Like, what about Taylor's behavior is different such that these horrible things are happening to her when she was only having 'minor pranks' and other such misdemeanors at this time in canon?
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Taylor's trigger event was always a murder attempt, or at least manslaughter, in canon anyway. This is just more of the same from three horrible little monsters that think they're untouchable (Ah, teenagers.)
 
Brandon Hume said:
I'd planned a series of stuff in between, but I'm getting the impression people hate that stuff, so I'll avoid it. In the end Taylor has a confrontation with Emma, has a sacrificial moment, Danny almost has a big damn hero moment, and Taylor regains the hammer and learns not to let others define her worth. Everyone's happy and awesome and not grimderpy at all. The end.
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Ignore them, write it anyway. As much as I get the 'retreading canon sucks' argument, the trio situation really is the best opportunity for divergent character development until the 'Taylor gets kicked out of the Undersiders for a week after Leviathan' scenario, and THAT isn't gonna happen here.
 
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Automatonation said:
I liked this chapter, but it felt a little hollow to me. The stations of canon popping up suddenly was a bit of a downer, and it honestly felt like you blew your load a little quickly on the classic Thor lines.

It would have felt a lot more satisfying if Thorlor had say.... crashed a dogfighting ring and met Hookwolf, and then more and more E88 capes get drawn to into a rolling battle, until Kaiser shows up, and then you drop the "Kaiser, I would have words with thee!" Line. And end the chapter.

Edit: didn't see the second chapter, and I think the reaction and introspection, as faulty as it may be on Taylor's part, outweigh the initial feeling of 1.3
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The thing you have to realize is that Odin had a hand in rewriting the entirety of her fate. Bombastic, more powerful Contessa is at the helm of this vessel.
 
So; fantastic updates. Ride the wave in and don't listen to what could charitably be called whining from those whose SOD is distinctly limited.

Wielding Mjolnir, being called WORTHY after a year and a half of hell is going to mess with a mortals sense of sanity to some degree, but more than anything its going to make you more Thor-like. My SOD is fine right now for Thor's lines.

Praise the Odinsdottir!
 
Brandon Hume said:
Do I seriously need to be pandering each and every chapter? There's stuff in between the first chapter and the last. Should I post the complete plotline in point form and help people avoid all that?
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No, you don't need to pander to people but please note we aren't the ones who decided to up the escalation to having a pretty big crisis at school (being called in for selling/using drugs is damn big for Taylor in the scheme of things...regardless of maybe having a few kids part of Merchants there) for Taylor to deal with atop of the entire locker thing. Doesn't help you have the principle pull a big ass smug moment as well.

Brandon Hume said:
I hadn't even planned on writing more Winslow, but apparently that's not good enough.
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Well shit, when you bring in something like the faculty kowtowing to the bullies and then have them smugly declare "you are obviously guilty because I said so!" with the only way to deal with the accusation of her being a drug addict and a seller of substance was to get her father involved. What I am saying is for someone who doesn't want to write about Winslow shenanigans you kind of put a nice big plot point about Winslow Shenanigans. I understand you wanted a nice big fuck you Taylor moment to get her to eagerly fight Lung. That's fine, I have no issues whatsoever with that, but don't get surprised when people's response to another "bullies pull something that gets Taylor in trouble and the faculty eats it up like it's the best damn thing ever" is rather negative. (I mean, it totally makes perfect sense that someone who had a breakdown from being stuck in their locker to use it to store drugs :rolleyes:)

Brandon Hume said:
Fine, here it is: Taylor is internalizing her own sense of worthlessness. The hammer gives her an out, which she takes a bit too far. She compartmentalizes her life more and more, hopping into her Thor persona to avoid dealing with her problems. But those problems don't go away, and when she's confronted with them as Thor she nearly snaps. That's when she loses the hammer, not because she was unworthy as Thor but because she believed herself unworthy as Taylor... when it was Taylor who picked it up in the first place.
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Awesome to hear that, it makes sense.

Brandon Hume said:
I'd planned a series of stuff in between, but I'm getting the impression people hate that stuff, so I'll avoid it. In the end Taylor has a confrontation with Emma, has a sacrificial moment, Danny almost has a big damn hero moment, and Taylor regains the hammer and learns not to let others define her worth. Everyone's happy and awesome and not grimderpy at all. The end.
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Awesome, continue with that. As a lot of people who are cheering you on have stated: don't mind complainers too much and work on the story.

Also, please watch your tone, if it wasn't for the fact that I have a lot of patience and generally decent amount of thick skin I'd have snapped at you for, well your assholish response. I get you are the author and you get to write what you want. But to respond to a few rather negative reviews is to call it pandering to them? Then you threaten to take shit out because a few people aired their problems with one scene? Are seriously screwing a majority of people out of a interesting plot point because of a few people? You are blowing it out of proportion. People are not going to always enjoy whatever you throw on here, some more vocally than others, sorry.

I also apologize for the above rant, apparently you did get through a little bit, sorry :oops:.
 
Brandon Hume said:
Do I seriously need to be pandering each and every chapter? There's stuff in between the first chapter and the last. Should I post the complete plotline in point form and help people avoid all that?

I hadn't even planned on writing more Winslow, but apparently that's not good enough.

Fine, here it is: Taylor is internalizing her own sense of worthlessness. The hammer gives her an out, which she takes a bit too far. She compartmentalizes her life more and more, hopping into her Thor persona to avoid dealing with her problems. But those problems don't go away, and when she's confronted with them as Thor she nearly snaps. That's when she loses the hammer, not because she was unworthy as Thor but because she believed herself unworthy as Taylor... when it was Taylor who picked it up in the first place.

I'd planned a series of stuff in between, but I'm getting the impression people hate that stuff, so I'll avoid it. In the end Taylor has a confrontation with Emma, has a sacrificial moment, Danny almost has a big damn hero moment, and Taylor regains the hammer and learns not to let others define her worth. Everyone's happy and awesome and not grimderpy at all. The end.
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One thought, you could force the issue until the police actually get involved, at which point the accusers names would probably come out. And as we know, and the bullies don't, Taylor has been keeping detailed records of what and when for every one of the incidents of bullying for the last 6 months at least. Once it's outside the microcosm of the school, with a reason for names to be named, the authorities will take her journal as corroborating evidence, and I wouldn't be surprised if it got picked up by the PRT once Sophia's name came out. If nothing else the judge overseeing Sophia's parole would be asking questions about it.
 
Khepri14 said:
WELP. She just outed herself if either the ABB has any sense or some idiot catches this on video and posts it on PHO and Emma/Sophia/Greg see it. *Shakes head* Stupid girl.
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Sophie is going to shit herself Emma will do something really stupid greg will get banned and possibly have Odin and Danny (so nice bit of family bonding)turning up to explain the error of his ways:rolleyes:. Gregis is clueless enough to post something thats so offensive it angers the gods or Loki thinks its funny to pass it on:sad:
Que mulan style montage where Loki decides to train Greg to be WORTHY of Taylor regardless of Taylors Desires or Gregs ability. Because Lokis a Troll and who wouldnt want to see greg dodging thunderbolts


Also Taylors going to be lost the earth rotates and wind will effect even a thunder god Air Navigation is slightly harder than Land Nav add cloud cover and theres no way your finding your way home by just point and fly.:(
Glory Girl doesnt suffer that because she stays local
 
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Grounders10 said:
Why would she need that when she has a Mjolnir?
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Satnav program, though she'll have to stop to use it, and possibly be lower than outer space (due to legal requirements on satnav manufacturers not because the radio signals don't work in space; they were introduced so that commercial gps receivers couldn't be used in ICBMs and other missiles).
 
Brandon Hume said:
Where the hell was Brockton Bay, anyway?
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Oops talk about reality ensues. Let's hope she can make it home in less than 24 hours.

I must say I like that Taylor is being honest with herself. It may be petty of me (you don't have to like a character to enjoy a story) but it always bugged me that for CanonTaylor it was always someone else's fault.

I'm also liking Armsmaster, yes he was a bit of a dick but he was fairly professional and RIGHT; after all Taylor did rush in without really thinking*. Way too many fanfic writers have him wrong for the sake of it.

*That said robbery isn't cause for murder so not acting would also be bad
 
i don't get why people are being so negative this is all pretty logical for the trio to do at school and asside from it being lung she was fighting there was nothing else close to cannon about it like for instances if half way through the fight the undersides interrupt and Taylor has a nice conversation with Tattletail and Grue while Regent makes a bad joke
 
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