There is a limit, and it's clear we have gone past it! Shall we stop?

  • No

    Votes: 83 4.3%
  • Never

    Votes: 313 16.2%
  • The other poll vote at least got a lousy shirt for this.

    Votes: 197 10.2%
  • You don't have enough gold to build that 'Stop' sign

    Votes: 198 10.2%
  • Remember the Malkavian, for he Stops when Stop-Chan says so

    Votes: 215 11.1%
  • You must construct additional farms. Coffee farms.

    Votes: 929 48.0%

  • Total voters
    1,935
...you do realise that this is Salem right? Secret ruler of Grimm, the bane of humanity? Killer of the innocent and children.

She has literally murdered millions if not billions over the centuries, and had just recently wiped Vale off the map and may have possibly murdered Wren's big sister.

Remeber, Ashelyn isn't real, she's just a disguise. This is Salem, the person who is actively trying to wipe out all human life on the planet and is very close to succeeding. Don't fall for the act!

While she may or may not be developing genuine feeling for Wren, it doesn't make her any less of a heartless murding b****, so screw her feelings and launch her off into space while flipping her off with both hands Wren.

Hmmm, well, even if ashelyn/Salem is actually falling for wren for real, she does still need to pay for the destruction and wanton murder she committed. That said, isn't it sad?

Consider that she was alone long enough for life to develop again from scratch and evolve to what it is in present day Remnant. That length of isolation is enough to drive probably anyone insane. Add to that she's infected by Grimm essence and despite that, until Ozma showed up again, it didn't appear she did anything other than continue to live by herself, otherwise with her level of control over the Grimm, she could have wiped mankind out long before Ozma was reincarnated for the first time. A pretty good argument could be made that she's insane at this point and was insane long before now. So if the argument is that she needs to be shot into space because it's the only way to keep everyone safe from her because they can't chance her having a relapse, I could get behind that.

However, it appears that the argument is that the possibly insane person should be punished for the sake of punishing her even though it won't undo anything she did in the past. I mean, do you hold a rabid dog morally responsible for attacking someone? Put it down for revenge and taunt it as it's being killed? No, you put it down because it needs to be put down to keep everyone safe, not because of any emotional reason, need for revenge, or need for punishment.

If there was a sure fire way to cure Salem, I'd say that's a better route to go than further punishing someone who, IMO, has already been punished by the gods far beyond what her original sin was. If the cure doesn't work, the rocket can still always be used.

It's also pretty shady since the terms of her original punishment was that she would continue to live as long as she hasn't learned the value of life and death, yet in wanting to die even before she threw herself into the Grimm pool, she probably learned the lesson already, but her curse was still not broken.
 
long stuff about Salem that is quite relevant and right. I think.

I never said she had to be killed/jettison to space/punished tho. I just said she needs to pay for what she have done. The simplest way is to... Well, kill or send her of somewhere the fuck away. Ideally, she would do some kind of penance for what she do, or at least focus everything she have to prepare to punch the fucking asshole gods that are probably one of the worst deity in recent fiction.

Seriously tho, I hope wren/shade remembers the two asshole gods and will prepare against them.
 
Wasn't one of the important bits of info that dust stopped working a certain distance away from the planet, and the assumption that the same would be true with magic?
 
Would this all devolve into a weird slice of life comedy the moment he had flesh and blood children? All his daughters engaging the elder sister protocols.
 
Chapter One Hundred and Thirty-One
Chapter One Hundred and Thirty-One

The Amazing Schnee Amusement Park had everything. Animatronics, machines to tickle the fantasy and the imagination of people, a house of mirrors, the usual teapot and crash-driving circuit and many more rides of various natures and, of course, the piece of resistance. The Amazing Rail-Rail Hyper-Velocity Turbo Rollercoaster, which merged together virtual reality with the emotions one could feel only a roller-coaster, was fully operational and hundreds of people had already gone on it, gushing about becoming space-pilots in the future.

Salem and I shared some cotton candy, I attempted and failed to win her a plush prize by a shooting stall, much to the chagrin of the robotic worker beyond it -especially since there was no point in making the entire thing unwinnable by default. Though Salem did take the gun and manage a flawless series of shots, earning what looked like a massive teddy-bear and then handing it over to me with a bright smile.

I smiled back.

Deep down, I was thinking about just how cute Stenophylla had been that day she had begun pouting, and hadn't stopped until I had realized that she wanted a hug rather than the usual head-pats.

I was melting in cuteness overload by that point.

The Rollercoaster loomed over us, the final destination for either one of us, or the unfortunate realization that it might not work, and I'd be dead the next minute.

It didn't matter.

Mankind would survive me. It would survive the foolish Wren Schnee, who had attempted to spite the Gods.

That is the beauty of mankind; you can put it down once, twice, again and again-but we'll rise right back to bite you if you let us.

"The seats are one person only," I mused as I glanced at the next row of coffin-shaped seats appeared and opened up, letting the passengers off. They all had spaceship-like appearances, and each of them cost a small fortune to make since I couldn't know in which Salem might get on. They all had high-octane synthetic fuel for that final push out of orbit, in case it was needed. "From what Stenophylla told me, you get to play a small game while inside, fighting off alien invaders within a ship of some sorts."

"Interesting," Salem mused. "I suppose I will see you later then? We may end up comparing scores, though I doubt you'll get much out of it," she giggled as she said that, and I grinned in return.

"I'm not that good of a shot, but as long as I got your heart, it's all right," as I cheekily said that, she made a fake blush and slapped my shoulder with an affronted, yet pleased, look.

"You incorrigible man," she rolled her eyes.

I handed off my giant teddy bear to the nearby robotic attendant, taking extra care that it would be treated with as much care, and protection, as it ever could. The Android acknowledged my order with a nod, and then proceeded to keep holding on to it.

I helped Salem inside one of the coffins, and then stepped in the one right behind her.

Once the coffin's main doors closed, I was welcomed with a digital screen in front of me and some joystick-like rendition of a ship's command console and cloche. Instructions were laid in front of me, and as I sighed and concentrated on the game at hand, the rumbling of the rollercoaster began to pick up.

We would go underground for some part of it, and the appropriate coffin would be removed from the rest of the column, loaded within a magnetically-charged cage and then energy would pour through, the rollercoaster's insides would open, and the ramp going up would be reinforced with mecha-shift rising capacitors.

I played the game in the meantime. Fighting off invading ships would keep my mind and the edge I felt off me. I fought, I battled, minutes ticked by.

The ships were all soundproof. It was the only way to keep the noise of the charging up hidden.

Then, the ride came to an end.

The doors opened, and I stepped out to a shocked crowd that was still holding their ears and crying in pain.

I took a deep breath, and looked to my left.

We were missing one ship.

I pushed the earpiece by my side, and with the driest mouth I had ever felt in my entire life, asked a very simple question. "Is...Is it done?"

Stenophylla buzzed into my earpiece.

I took a deep breath, and began to walk away from the park. It was a slow walk. I left the giant Teddy-Bear where it had been. I thought about Salvatrix' happy face when I told her that I'd like to listen to her sing. She had bloomed in smiles and happiness.

One hundred fifty seconds were an eternity to pass, but it was the time it would take for Salem to no longer be a problem. If she realized something was off, and blew the casket off-she might still make it.

There was Magnistipula's fierce independent side. I loved seeing her act like a tough lady, only to then silently ask with her eyes where her hugs were. Hug me dad, hug me too, her eyes would say, and I couldn't help but agree to that.

I came to a halt near the exit of the park. My limousine was waiting for me.

I looked right, and I looked left. Then, I looked behind me.

I took a deep, shuddering breath.

Stenophylla buzzed in my ear.

I collapsed inside the limousine, the door closing behind me.

My cries, my screams, everything that had been bottled within emerged like a tempest. I laughed amidst the most terrified of cries, and screamed my wrath in the midst of all of my despair. Avenged. I had avenged them. I had avenged them all.

This was my victory.

Mine.

Mine!

ME!

No Heroes, No Kings, No Gods, only me. I, Wren Schnee, had won.

I slammed the back of my body against the soft backseat, and croaked out a few words to the driver that had remained non-plussed and silent. "The cemetery, please," I whispered.

There had been no body found. There hadn't been a message from her. I didn't know if she was alive or not, but a grave had to be made.

I had a bouquet of Atlas roses in my hands, and as I knelt in front of the grave in question, I deposited it ever so gently and gingerly touched the stone with my left hand. I smiled, I pressed my forehead against the cold stone.

"Hey big sis," I whispered wistfully. "Sorry I'm late." I made a hint of a small smile. "I've avenged you," I whispered, "I'm so sorry I couldn't do it earlier but...but I've avenged you." A bitter chuckle escaped my throat, which sounded more like a half-strangled sob. "And...and now..." I murmured, "Now I must avenge the first Mankind." My eyes burned from tears I refused to shed, and yet fell all the same.

Everything was their fault. Their arrogance and their selfishness would see punishment. If not in this life, if not in this age-then, definitely, in the future.

I walked away in silence, leaving the tombstone behind me.

Here rests Winter Schnee.

Forever loved, never forgotten and always in our hearts.
 
At this point I might actually be disappointed if Salem came back somehow. It was actually a somewhat fitting end considering how wren does things. No grand boss battle, just a quiet assassination.
 
More fitting if the two brothers are the final boss.

This might actually cause those 2 to show up, regardless of their summoning condition.
Throw a temper tantrum that humanity cheated.
 
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At this point I might actually be disappointed if Salem came back somehow. It was actually a somewhat fitting end considering how wren does things. No grand boss battle, just a quiet assassination.
The perfect final nail for his little coffin of ideals. His father's methods once again pull through where all the Good Fuzzy things and moral grand-standing have failed.
 
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well, that happened. wren did what ozma-laise can't. salem is out of the picture, seemingly so. now what?
 
That was way too easy to be a good end. maybe Salem is still alive, or she wasn't really what Wren thought she was? Can Salem control the Elements or something like that?
 
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