Can we just call for Nally, she could teleport everyone surely?

But then, the first time we were specificly in the hall asking for food from the kitchen, so maybe not.
 
@Tabula Rasa can we call the house elf's for help?

[] call Nally for help and to start teleporting the others out first followed by you last But tell everyone to run to the castle if that does not work. Nally will come if called right?
 
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@Tabula Rasa can we call the house elf's for help?

[] call Nally for help and to start teleporting the others out first followed by you last But tell everyone to run to the castle if that does not work. Nally will come if called right?
House-elfs while strong, aren't omnipotent. They can't simply hear you across all distances. They have large ears to be able to hear noises across their domicile and Hogwarts gives them some additional bonus inside the castle, but they won't hear you this far outside of the castle.
 
Can dementors go through walls? I don't remember them being able to.

If we're lucky the upper years can transfigure us some walls from dirt to work with.

Outside of that, our options are hope Nally will show up if called and don't be the slowest.
 
House-elfs while strong, aren't omnipotent. They can't simply hear you across all distances. They have large ears to be able to hear noises across their domicile and Hogwarts gives them some additional bonus inside the castle, but they won't hear you this far outside of the castle.
How close is the closest passage way out of Hogwarts?
 
Well that kills the House elf Plan. It looks like run and fight when possible. Transfiguration is still the best way to go against them and let's not let the kiddies die.
 
[X] Heads or Tails – There is nothing that you can do to kill a Dementor, but to hurt it? Inconvenience it? You have no clue. This would be the testing of a hypotheses that you had never got to write down. Either it was possible, and you would survive somehow, or you would lose your soul here. Stand your ground and fight while retreating back into the castle.

I think it would be fun either way, be it being successful in inventing a manner to deal with dementors or failing and 'losing' our soul and probably move the quest completely outside of the books - perhaps possessing the dementor? - (or end it, but then, I would've been satisfied in another sense)
 
Also why is Jacob meeting kids in the middle of a no where. It is not illegal to buy them things is it?
You are not in the middle of a Forrest. You are at the midpoint between the castle and the Quidditch Stadium. It is not illegal to buy them things, but it is against school norms to leave the school ground outside of Hogsmeade weekends, which makes the buying thing not-prefect-material.

That's why you got the higher fee for your buying trips.



Each one gives you a +5 in a roll. You could use them in a fight for example to be on top of yourself, but keep in mind that they are rare and you will only get them for special achievements.
 
[X] Heads or Tails – There is nothing that you can do to kill a Dementor, but to hurt it? Inconvenience it? You have no clue. This would be the testing of a hypotheses that you had never got to write down. Either it was possible, and you would survive somehow, or you would lose your soul here. Stand your ground and fight while retreating back into the castle.
 
[X] Heads or Tails – There is nothing that you can do to kill a Dementor, but to hurt it? Inconvenience it? You have no clue. This would be the testing of a hypotheses that you had never got to write down. Either it was possible, and you would survive somehow, or you would lose your soul here. Stand your ground and fight while retreating back into the castle.
 
Alright, but how does a House Elf teleport to someone they have no real way of knowing where they are? No one knew where Harry Potter lived, yet Dobby was able to teleport into his home in order to try and warn him off, without the knowledge of his masters. This is somewhat separate, but ties into how a house elf's magic may or may not work.

It's never actually been shown, but I've always believed that invoking the house elf's name ties into their inherent magic, and thus grabs their attention to know they are needed when called, while also letting them know where whoever is calling them is located-- not that they're just somehow physically hearing someone call to them even in large manors or a castle like Hogwarts. This ties in well to things of a magical and fey nature: names have power, and also lends some credence into why people prefer avoiding saying the name 'Voldemort'.

Also, would not their duties expand into the grounds of Hogwarts itself? Cleaning the Quidditch stadium after matches, maintaining the various lawns, possibly working the greenhouses and such? Hogwarts isn't just the Castle, it's the grounds surrounding it as well. As such, I really don't see a reason we can't call on a House Elf just because we're outside of the main castle other than the fact that it makes some things trivial to deal with. We should be able to take advantage of the lack of common sense most wizards and witches display.
 
Alright, but how does a House Elf teleport to someone they have no real way of knowing where they are? No one knew where Harry Potter lived, yet Dobby was able to teleport into his home in order to try and warn him off, without the knowledge of his masters. This is somewhat separate, but ties into how a house elf's magic may or may not work.

It's never actually been shown, but I've always believed that invoking the house elf's name ties into their inherent magic, and thus grabs their attention to know they are needed when called, while also letting them know where whoever is calling them is located-- not that they're just somehow physically hearing someone call to them even in large manors or a castle like Hogwarts. This ties in well to things of a magical and fey nature: names have power, and also lends some credence into why people prefer avoiding saying the name 'Voldemort'.

Also, would not their duties expand into the grounds of Hogwarts itself? Cleaning the Quidditch stadium after matches, maintaining the various lawns, possibly working the greenhouses and such? Hogwarts isn't just the Castle, it's the grounds surrounding it as well. As such, I really don't see a reason we can't call on a House Elf just because we're outside of the main castle other than the fact that it makes some things trivial to deal with. We should be able to take advantage of the lack of common sense most wizards and witches display.

Fair Points and I appreciate how much thought you put into it. While I see the abilities of a House-elf differently, I appreciate that you are trying to think everything through.

In the end this is a game and I don't want to strictly take routes of engagement out of your reach, so there will be a roll at the end of this post.

1-3 and they won't hear you, 4-6 and you will be able to call Nally. If you can call her, you will still need a plan for engagement.

Edit: Go ahead
Tabula Rasa threw 1 6-faced dice. Reason: Call Nally Total: 4
4 4
 
[X] Heads or Tails – There is nothing that you can do to kill a Dementor, but to hurt it? Inconvenience it? You have no clue. This would be the testing of a hypotheses that you had never got to write down. Either it was possible, and you would survive somehow, or you would lose your soul here. Stand your ground and fight while retreating back into the castle.

All or nothing. I like these odds.
 
I looked up how to fight off Dementors.

You can't. You literally can't without the Patronus Charm. It seems these things are immune to spells. So I'm not sure what exactly Jacob is planning but odds are it really won't work.
 
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[X] We need a Hero - Call for Nally while gathering everyone to retreat as you talk. When she appears, ask her to go and quickly gather enough house elves to evacuate our group to the Great Hall.

Eh, hopefully this is feasible. We can run and talk, yeah?
 
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[] Run and Elf tell the group to run to the castle and call for Nally to help. Get Nally to help fight or get everyone away. Stand and fight if one of the kids start to falter but fight a retreating battle to the castle.
@Tabula Rasa how is this?
 
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[X] We need a Hero - Call for Nally while gathering everyone to retreat as you talk. When she appears, ask her if she can apparate or teleport all of you at once to the great hall, or if she can quickly go gather some more house elves and have them teleport to you to whisk you all to safety. If that won't work, ask her bring Professor Flitwick to protect you.

Eh, hopefully this is feasible. We can run and talk, yeah?
You need to ask before voting?
 
[X] Heads or Tails – There is nothing that you can do to kill a Dementor, but to hurt it? Inconvenience it? You have no clue. This would be the testing of a hypotheses that you had never got to write down. Either it was possible, and you would survive somehow, or you would lose your soul here. Stand your ground and fight while retreating back into the castle.
-[X] We need a Hero - Call for Nally while gathering everyone to retreat as you talk. When she appears, ask her if she can apparate or teleport all of you at once to the great hall, or if she can quickly go gather some more house elves and have them teleport to you to whisk you all to safety. If that won't work, ask her bring Professor Flitwick to protect you.

[X] We need a Hero - Call for Nally while gathering everyone to retreat as you talk. When she appears, ask her if she can apparate or teleport all of you at once to the great hall, or if she can quickly go gather some more house elves and have them teleport to you to whisk you all to safety. If that won't work, ask her bring Professor Flitwick to protect you.

Eh, hopefully this is feasible. We can run and talk, yeah?
I like that plan but I would prefer to make it an addition to one of the other plans just in case and because unless it works it doesnt rule out anything else.
 
[X] We need a Hero - Call for Nally while gathering everyone to retreat as you talk. When she appears, ask her if she can apparate or teleport all of you at once to the great hall, or if she can quickly go gather some more house elves and have them teleport to you to whisk you all to safety. If that won't work, ask her bring Professor Flitwick to protect you.

Eh, hopefully this is feasible. We can run and talk, yeah?
Flitwick is watching the game. His house is playing.

[] Run and Elf - Tell the group to run to the castle and call for Nally to help. Stand and fight if one of the kids start to falter but fight a retreating battle. Or get Nally to help get everyone away including you.

@Tabula Rasa how is this?
Formulation is not too clear, but I get the of it. This one is ok.
 
[] Run and Elf tell the group to run to the castle and call for Nally to help. Get Nally to help fight or get everyone away starting with kids and you going last. Stand and fight if one of the kids start to falter but fight a retreating battle to the castle.


@Tabula Rasa how this for a Plan?
 
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My thoughts were for her to teleport to him, then bring him along when teleporting to us. Is this not feasible?
She doesn't instinctively know where everyone is. If you want Jacob to tell her to bring a teacher for help out of the Stadium, that is a different vote than to ask her to get you out.

She won't be able to Apparate more than one person at a time. So I need an order of how you want to retreat, if that is the plan @Nurgle

And if you want for her to bring a teacher, then that is what the plan should entail. Because she cant do two things at the same time. @Funeral Pyre

So, please a step by step thing. I don't want to misrepresent the vote.
 
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