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A Harry Potter Quest: He who was not

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Yeah, Jacob is going to figure out that Peter is an Animagus pretty quickly. He has the Map after all. All he has to do is use the map to find where Peter is, see that there isn't actually a person there, and then he will pretty quickly conclude Animagus. It isn't much of a leap at all, especially when he just found out Black is one. Researching Animagi makes it that much more likely for him to make the connection. As a bonus it might hopefully put the idea in his head to make an attempt to become one himself.

darknessworld said:
I'll be honest, I think that talking to Lupin is probably going to be just a little more than a waste of time.

We haven't particularly bonded with him and he probably underestimates Jacob's abilities.

And, considering the personality of our character, it is probable that a visit to Lupin will be either limited to discovering if his friends were Animagi and, if we succeed, maybe even what animal Peter trasformed into (but if we fail we get absolutely nothing), or maybe something we will do when things are basically over to show him specifically that we were actually capable.
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And I do sort of agree with this, though I will say that I think a meeting with Lupin is less of a potential waste of time than researching Werewolves. And while Lupin might not be forthcoming with any questions that Jacob may have, I think what he doesn't say will provide Jacob with some clues as well. If Lupin avoids certain topics, or is evasive about certain things, those kind of reactions themselves can help him put the pieces together.

Even if Lupin is uncooperative, his responses to some questions could help shed light on the context of the possible past relationship between Black, Pettigrew, and himself.
 
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ShyGuy said:
Yeah, Jacob is going to figure out that Peter is an Animagus pretty quickly. He has the Map after all. All he has to do is use the map to find where Peter is, see that there isn't actually a person there, and then he will pretty quickly conclude Animagus. It isn't much of a leap at all, especially when he just found out Black is one and will be researching them soon.


And I do sort of agree with this, though I will say that I think a meeting with Lupin is less of a potential waste of time than researching Werewolves. And while Lupin might not be forthcoming with any questions that Jacob may have, I think what he doesn't say will provide Jacob with some clues as well. If Lupin avoids certain topics, or is evasive about certain things, those kind of reactions themselves can help him put the pieces together.

Even if Lupin is uncooperative, his responses to some questions could help shed light on the context of the possible past relationship between Black, Pettigrew, and himself.
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You know, if we wanted to go FULL JACOB, instead of going to Lupin for answers, we should find Sirius and ask him directly...
 
darknessworld said:
Not really. If I remember correctly, that happened after the exams, which are still, like, at least 20 days away. However, I may remember wrong.
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you could be right, I haven't read/watched harry potter in years. I just know that when sirius finds peter, he immediately tried to kill him, and that led to peter escaping.

I still think exposing peter at the castle is better
 
Fanhunter696 said:
You know, if we wanted to go FULL JACOB, instead of going to Lupin for answers, we should find Sirius and ask him directly...
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While that would be interesting, I think right now Jacob is still unsure if Sirius did kill those people and was a follower of Voldemort. I can see Jacob considering the possibility of them both being Death Eaters, but Peter got cold feet after Voldemort was defeated and framed Sirius to take all the blame and right now Sirius wants revenge. That and Black might be crazy from all those years around Dementors.
 
Pempelune said:
As I said above, we could do a solid to Sirius Black by offering him a potion that is specifically noted to be good for recovering from prison. Let's not waste the opportunity!

[X] Plan: Goggles with Sirius Black's Poción Vital
-[X] LOCKED: Case V: The Search for Sirius Black (2 Actions [1 Action in May, 1 Action in June])
-[X] Overdrive applicable: Brew (Poción Vital)
-[X] Overdrive applicable: Do Something! Learn about Animagi
-[X] Overdrive applicable: Do Something! Learn about Werewolves
-[X] Actions 5 + 4 = 9
--[X] Ghostly Goggles x 5, if finished early, do more Learning spells (Requires Alchemy and Ancient Runes skill of at least P), DC: 400.
--[X] Overdrive applicable: Learning x4 (Immobulus, Poción Vital, Diffindo, Incendio (Deep Understanding), Reducio, Expelliarmus (Deep Understanding))
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I like your plan, I'm always for being compassionate. But I would prefer if you could change the learn about werewolf action for a random encounter one.
 
darknessworld said:
I doubt a maps cross checking will happen, because I don't think Jacob would tell about his and Lupin will continue to hide the Marauder one, and, without that, we really can't convince Lupin to help in catching Peter anyway.
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You know, I disagree. If Jacob gets heated enough that Lupin is dodging questions and refusing to answer he could say he knows Peter Pettigrew is alive and then bring out his map to prove it.
 
[x] Plan Goggles On, Find Black

My only misgiving is that we're not learning Accio… I think it's better than Incendio due to both the lower dice count and the better utility.
 
darknessworld said:
Not really. If I remember correctly, that happened after the exams, which are still, like, at least 20 days away. However, I may remember wrong.
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Given that the hidden cases seem like our main of interacting with the plot and thus the trio, I highly doubt we'll be able to butterfly away the climax at the end of the year. At best we'll be able to participate and influence things that way.

Maybe next year will be different, especially if we end up influencing things earlier now that we have more tools to do so.
 
GoukaRyuu said:
You know, I disagree. If Jacob gets heated enough that Lupin is dodging questions and refusing to answer he could say he knows Peter Pettigrew is alive and then bring out his map to prove it.
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I actually don't think that, from Jacob point of view, that would help his point.

Also, outside of that situation, Lupin was a little too much focused on how the Marauder map was infallibile: I think he may be a little biased on the quality of his and his friend's work and may not believe another map, even in principle.
 
Dutch said:
Given that the hidden cases seem like our main of interacting with the plot and thus the trio, I highly doubt we'll be able to butterfly away the climax at the end of the year. At best we'll be able to participate and influence things that way.

Maybe next year will be different, especially if we end up influencing things earlier now that we have more tools to do so.
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Well, if Peter gets captured, then next year we are probably not going to have the return of Voldemort. Though, I think that Barty Crouch Junior will eventually get to him anyway.
 
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Since my plan isn't gaining any traction, changing my vote:

[x] Plan Goggles On, Find Black

Spells are nice, but there are other opportunities that we should also work towards.

I like the constitution training since it keeps Jacob active in a physically inactive month (over Empathy because of Hagrid's +10 makes it more likely to pass), and the Legilimency will be needed for future Quests, opening the next level of the Book, and Jacob's father asked him how the training was going.
 
I've only seen one plan address it so far, but I think we should get creativity to 6. We're going to get a free upgrade to all our class skills this upcoming month and DADA is currently capped out and it is absolutely something we don't want to waste.

A+ is a +10, E- is a +15 that is a pretty big improvement, yes creativity is a 50/50 flip atm but I think it would be very much worth it. If we get it, between that and the goggles we'd get a +10 to combat this coming month.

I don't know about everyone else, but I think dropping some time echoes might on it might be something to consider.
 
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Dutch said:
Given that the hidden cases seem like our main of interacting with the plot and thus the trio, I highly doubt we'll be able to butterfly away the climax at the end of the year. At best we'll be able to participate and influence things that way.

Maybe next year will be different, especially if we end up influencing things earlier now that we have more tools to do so.
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yes we could, depending on how things go, we could end up capturing peter and that would go a long way to proving sirius' innocence.
 
darknessworld said:
Well, if Peter gets captured, then next year we are probably not going to have the return of Voldemort. Though, I think that Barthy Crouch Junior will eventually get to him anyway.
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I don't think it would stop the return of voldemort year 4, cause I think the only thing peter did was cut off his hand for voldemort, and Tom has plenty of followers that would probably cut off a hand to revive him.
 
Tom would still come back at some point, but it would be delayed without Peter. I have a feeling Barty would still escape at the World Cup after overcoming the imperius because of his anger at the death eaters having their fun there. I don't think any thing has changed too much to cause that to not happen. It could just mean Tom comes back in Year 5 instead of Year 4.
 
Cruzerblade said:
I've only seen one plan address it so far, but I think we should get creativity to 6. We're going to get a free upgrade to all our class skills this upcoming month and DADA is currently capped out and it is absolutely something we don't want to waste.
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DADA actually isn't capped yet. It can still get a level up before it is capped as it is currently at A (9) and it gets capped at A+ (10). And in regards to Creativity, we should probably try to spend the free Attribute Points we get when Jacob levels up there. The DC being what it is, it's not really worth it to put a Personal Action there to train it when there is a 50% chance of failure. Right now the only attributes that are somewhat sensible to train are Constitution and Empathy, and even then we probably won't want to put Personal Actions towards them for much longer.

Basically, it's almost getting to the point where it makes more sense to have Jacob rely on Level Ups to increase his Attributes just because the DC is getting so high and the actions would be better spent on Spells and upping Subjects.
 
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ShyGuy said:
DADA actually isn't capped yet. It can still get a level up before it is capped as it is currently at A (9) and it gets capped at A+ (10). And in regards to Creativity, we should probably try to spend the free Attribute Points we get when Jacob levels up there. The DC being what it is, it's not really worth it to put a Personal Action there to train it when there is a 50% chance of failure. Right now the only attributes that are somewhat sensible to train are Constitution and Empathy, and even then we probably won't want to put Personal Actions towards them for much longer.

Basically, it's almost getting to the point where it makes more sense to have Jacob rely on Level Ups to increase his Attributes just because the DC is getting so high and the actions would be better spent on Spells and upping Subjects.
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Ah, my bad I misremembered, it's runes that get to E- next month and that's capped at E because of needing 5 skills at E to go further.
 
Looking at Goggles On, Find Black, what does "Learn Animagus" even mean? Are we trying to become an animagus, find info or learn the animagus -> human spell?

The wording makes me think that we'd try to become one, which if possible I'd be 100% down for. I'm just not sure our transfiguration or potions would be high enough.
 
GoukaRyuu said:
Tom would still come back at some point, but it would be delayed without Peter. I have a feeling Barty would still escape at the World Cup after overcoming the imperius because of his anger at the death eaters having their fun there. I don't think any thing has changed too much to cause that to not happen. It could just mean Tom comes back in Year 5 instead of Year 4.
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I don't think it would have that much effect, I think at most it would get us a huge favor from remus, sirius, and maybe harry.
I think Tom still ends up being revived year 4 unless we do things to prevent it then.
 
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