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A Game of Crowns (Mafia)
- Thread starter LostDeviljho
- Start date
- Mafia
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Really Nictis? Honestly, if you still think I'm scum, I'm disappointed, unless Ban is your third member in your QT you just are not playing at your strongest.
- mesonoxian
-Rosen DEAD TOWNLook to the Left DEAD NON-TOWN- Cyricubed
- PyrrosWarrior
- Est
QTesseract DEAD TOWN- InterstellarHobo
- 1KBestK
Nanimani DEAD TOWN- TurtleDucks COMITURTLE
- Nictis
Happerry DEAD TOWN- DimensionalGuy
- BanTheFairyKing
Absum DEAD TOWN DOCTOR- Evenstar
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
The intention was not malicious but I have removed it, it was purely because it feel into my logic of how scum would respond to it.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
@BanTheFairyKing I apologize, for that action, it was unintentionally rude, and I can understand frustrations stemming from it since I've had similar experiences. It was an instinctual thing and not something that makes much sense after taking a moment to think about it.
InterstellarHobo
Cosmic Vagrant
- Location
- No Fixed Planetary System
I'm now fairly sure that Est is scum, having more time to think about it.
Their posts don't ever favor a position. Their posts were frequently interrogative, but they never answered questions.
Immediately after I analyzed his posts, and pointed at the lack of output information, they claimed ComiTurtle is for sure town, in a way that is clearly supposed to justify their earlier lack of commitments. It strikes me as a deeply suspicious way to 'respond' to the iso.
Quotes for reference:
Now, since basically anyone could be found scummy under a reading like that, we're going to try again except being charitable.
I'm considering switching from Absum to Est. Gonna look at one more first, and hope there's an actually compelling case for someone.
As an aside, I noticed Nanimani voted Est D1, went to see if there was anything to glean from that.
Nope.
Also, not gonna update this based on Est's post a couple seconds ago.
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Their posts don't ever favor a position. Their posts were frequently interrogative, but they never answered questions.
Immediately after I analyzed his posts, and pointed at the lack of output information, they claimed ComiTurtle is for sure town, in a way that is clearly supposed to justify their earlier lack of commitments. It strikes me as a deeply suspicious way to 'respond' to the iso.
Quotes for reference:
If we're dedicated to scum!Est then this could be laying the groundwork to push the mislynch if necessary- or simply opposing the lynch for town cred, while still trying to sow suspicion. Or, well, just opposing the lynch for town cred.
There's a couple more halfhearted defences of -Rosen, setting up for cheap town cred.
The following (real time) day, Est mostly postulates about the game setup. Didn't analyze this section too closely, but this quote in particular could easily be fishing for power roles.
Est then goes inactive for a while, citing a death in the family. We won't be so gauche as to analyze that.
When they return, we have this, seeming to argue that -Rosen isn't a mislynch.
Finally, late in the day when it's quite clear that -Rosen will be getting lynched, Est distances himself from the proceedings.
Eventually dropping a doomed-to-fail lynch on Ban.
Day 2, Est is lying low. He votes Ban immediately, without providing any more justification than he did last night. He posts the following fairly weak reads. When pressed to justify the Ban vote, he cites the first of these posts. All in all, Est essentially just dodges attention D2. The Ban vote is pretty much doomed from the start, so it's little more indicative than a NULL
There's a couple more halfhearted defences of -Rosen, setting up for cheap town cred.
The following (real time) day, Est mostly postulates about the game setup. Didn't analyze this section too closely, but this quote in particular could easily be fishing for power roles.
Est then goes inactive for a while, citing a death in the family. We won't be so gauche as to analyze that.
When they return, we have this, seeming to argue that -Rosen isn't a mislynch.
Finally, late in the day when it's quite clear that -Rosen will be getting lynched, Est distances himself from the proceedings.
Eventually dropping a doomed-to-fail lynch on Ban.
Day 2, Est is lying low. He votes Ban immediately, without providing any more justification than he did last night. He posts the following fairly weak reads. When pressed to justify the Ban vote, he cites the first of these posts. All in all, Est essentially just dodges attention D2. The Ban vote is pretty much doomed from the start, so it's little more indicative than a NULL
Now, since basically anyone could be found scummy under a reading like that, we're going to try again except being charitable.
Est asks a bunch of questions, but supplies few answers. This is actually somewhat hard to justify as town, but also not super important since we're still basically in meme phase.
Meso posts suspicions of -Rosen. Est presses him on these suspicions. Meso responds. Est concedes that there is a scum explanation for -Rosen
...but he doesn't think it's likely.
My current thoughts after my third reread of the thread:
At this point in the game, Rosen looks like certified USDA approved Mislynch Bait. Meso made some good points, but my personal experience speaking with Rosen was NAI, as it was too short-lived. I'll wait till he comes back for another chat, in the meantime I'll try picking up new lines of questioning.
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Est then proceeds to defend -Rosen, though somewhat halfheartedly.
The following day, Est mostly postulates about the game setup. Didn't analyze this section too closely, but postulating about the game setup is quite possibly just curiousity.
Est then goes inactive for a while, citing a death in the family. We won't be so gauche as to analyze that.
When they return, we have this, some frankly rather good advice about how we should have been arguing against the -Rosen lynch.
Finally, we get a very plausible reason for not joining the -Rosen train.
Eventually dropping a doomed-to-fail lynch on Ban.
Day 2, Est doesn't have much to say. He votes Ban immediately, without providing any more justification than he did last night. He posts the following fairly weak reads. When pressed to justify the Ban vote, he cites the first of these posts. All in all, Est essentially just doesn't do much D2.
Meso posts suspicions of -Rosen. Est presses him on these suspicions. Meso responds. Est concedes that there is a scum explanation for -Rosen
...but he doesn't think it's likely.
My current thoughts after my third reread of the thread:
At this point in the game, Rosen looks like certified USDA approved Mislynch Bait. Meso made some good points, but my personal experience speaking with Rosen was NAI, as it was too short-lived. I'll wait till he comes back for another chat, in the meantime I'll try picking up new lines of questioning.
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Est then proceeds to defend -Rosen, though somewhat halfheartedly.
The following day, Est mostly postulates about the game setup. Didn't analyze this section too closely, but postulating about the game setup is quite possibly just curiousity.
Est then goes inactive for a while, citing a death in the family. We won't be so gauche as to analyze that.
When they return, we have this, some frankly rather good advice about how we should have been arguing against the -Rosen lynch.
Finally, we get a very plausible reason for not joining the -Rosen train.
Eventually dropping a doomed-to-fail lynch on Ban.
Day 2, Est doesn't have much to say. He votes Ban immediately, without providing any more justification than he did last night. He posts the following fairly weak reads. When pressed to justify the Ban vote, he cites the first of these posts. All in all, Est essentially just doesn't do much D2.
Honestly, there's a fair amount that's definitely fishing for information. There's a decent amount more that's quite possibly circumspect fishing for information. This alone is making me scumlean.
Also, Est's posting has been very low impact, and they haven't really pressed any argument to speak of.
Day 1 they do argue against the -Rosen lynch, but they are drawn away by commitments for too long to make a difference.
Day 2 their posts are barely above zero-information, and they don't argue for their chosen lynch at all.
The scum-explanation for Est's behavior applies to literally anyone who didn't follow the -Rosen lynch. There's a bit of suspectness in how halfhearted it was, but... that's weak reasoning. Really weak. That chunk can't honestly be considered scum indicative.
Also, Est's posting has been very low impact, and they haven't really pressed any argument to speak of.
Day 1 they do argue against the -Rosen lynch, but they are drawn away by commitments for too long to make a difference.
Day 2 their posts are barely above zero-information, and they don't argue for their chosen lynch at all.
The scum-explanation for Est's behavior applies to literally anyone who didn't follow the -Rosen lynch. There's a bit of suspectness in how halfhearted it was, but... that's weak reasoning. Really weak. That chunk can't honestly be considered scum indicative.
I'm considering switching from Absum to Est. Gonna look at one more first, and hope there's an actually compelling case for someone.
As an aside, I noticed Nanimani voted Est D1, went to see if there was anything to glean from that.
Nope.
Also, not gonna update this based on Est's post a couple seconds ago.
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InterstellarHobo
Cosmic Vagrant
- Location
- No Fixed Planetary System
Wow god damn multiquote really fucked up on that one
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Est then proceeds to defend -Rosen, though somewhat halfheartedly.
The following day, Est mostly postulates about the game setup. Didn't analyze this section too closely, but postulating about the game setup is quite possibly just curiousity.
Est then goes inactive for a while, citing a death in the family. We won't be so gauche as to analyze that.
When they return, we have this, some frankly rather good advice about how we should have been arguing against the -Rosen lynch.
Finally, we get a very plausible reason for not joining the -Rosen train.
Eventually dropping a doomed-to-fail lynch on Ban.
Day 2, Est doesn't have much to say. He votes Ban immediately, without providing any more justification than he did last night. He posts the following fairly weak reads. When pressed to justify the Ban vote, he cites the first of these posts. All in all, Est essentially just doesn't do much D2.
The following day, Est mostly postulates about the game setup. Didn't analyze this section too closely, but postulating about the game setup is quite possibly just curiousity.
Est then goes inactive for a while, citing a death in the family. We won't be so gauche as to analyze that.
When they return, we have this, some frankly rather good advice about how we should have been arguing against the -Rosen lynch.
Finally, we get a very plausible reason for not joining the -Rosen train.
Eventually dropping a doomed-to-fail lynch on Ban.
Day 2, Est doesn't have much to say. He votes Ban immediately, without providing any more justification than he did last night. He posts the following fairly weak reads. When pressed to justify the Ban vote, he cites the first of these posts. All in all, Est essentially just doesn't do much D2.
Honestly, there's a fair amount that's definitely fishing for information. There's a decent amount more that's quite possibly circumspect fishing for information. This alone is making me scumlean.
Also, Est's posting has been very low impact, and they haven't really pressed any argument to speak of.
Day 1 they do argue against the -Rosen lynch, but they are drawn away by commitments for too long to make a difference.
Day 2 their posts are barely above zero-information, and they don't argue for their chosen lynch at all.
The scum-explanation for Est's behavior applies to literally anyone who didn't follow the -Rosen lynch. There's a bit of suspectness in how halfhearted it was, but... that's weak reasoning. Really weak. That chunk can't honestly be considered scum indicative.
Also, Est's posting has been very low impact, and they haven't really pressed any argument to speak of.
Day 1 they do argue against the -Rosen lynch, but they are drawn away by commitments for too long to make a difference.
Day 2 their posts are barely above zero-information, and they don't argue for their chosen lynch at all.
The scum-explanation for Est's behavior applies to literally anyone who didn't follow the -Rosen lynch. There's a bit of suspectness in how halfhearted it was, but... that's weak reasoning. Really weak. That chunk can't honestly be considered scum indicative.
I'm considering switching from Absum to Est. Gonna look at one more first, and hope there's an actually compelling case for someone.
As an aside, I noticed Nanimani voted Est D1, went to see if there was anything to glean from that.
Nope.
Also, not gonna update this based on Est's post a couple seconds ago.
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Est, was a town read from based on day 1 play, but the lessening of actions and prodding day 2 and 3 lowered it to neutral, I'll try and do a reread myself into their posts but I would currently disagree with 100% scum. My strongest scum read is Ban and I only place them at like 70-ish percent.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him
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Est, was a town read from based on day 1 play, but the lessening of actions and prodding day 2 and 3 lowered it to neutral, I'll try and do a reread myself into their posts but I would currently disagree with 100% scum. My strongest scum read is Ban and I only place them at like 70-ish percent.
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Oh... wow I've not seen that happen before.
- Location
- Alabama
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- He/They
'blatant scum discrediting' I'm sorry that I tried to defend myself? If you noticed, I didn't vote for you. I'm not convinced you're scum even if you're convinced the other way around. The whole point of that end bit was that hey, self-preservation is a thing and I feel that your push on me is self-preservation.
To answer your actual points though, I'm not sure strength is the word when Evenstar asked Nictis's opinion multiple times day 1 and sheeped their vote without even asking why. For a player like Eva to do that they need to be pretty certain Nictis on Nictis's alignment - which Day 1 means either Eva is scum or that they're in a mason together.
Admittedly, I didn't consider them being in a mason as an option because I was already scum leaning Eva. That's definitely my bad. But recognizing that Eva knew something about Nictis at this point - I don't see how that's alignment indicative.
Yes, I pushed Nictis for a small period of time. This was my preconceptions coloring my view, admittedly. I was pretty much locked into thinking Eva was scum, and so when Nictis started behaving like he knew what Eva was as well my theory that Eva was scum and sheeping a town Nictis was mostly eliminated. As I believed Eva was scum, that left Nictis being her scum buddy. I wasn't sure of it, but since Nictis was so highly regarded in the town at that point I wanted to at least raise the point. So, I put a vote on him early on to ask for some explanation... And then I got none, and so I took it off. I was trying to pressure, badly, not start a lynch train.
After that the whole reveal happened and I realized I'd fucked up by ignoring the mason option
As to why I've been away? Yeah, you nailed it on the head. Day ends at 9. I have an 8 o'clock class, and am the type of extra who sits in the front row. That means that at most I'm able to phone post, and normally can't really post at all. The only time that wasn't the case was Fall Break, but, well, getting drunk with my friends outweighed being here at the time, sorry. 🤷♂️
In Post Edit: So malicious funny. Tbh, it hurt a bit? You're one of the people who I think is really good at this game, and so when you funnied the post I felt like an idiot. With that said I get that it wasn't intentionally malicious, just a spur of the moment feeling, and so I forgive you. I'm not the type to hold grudges, especially over something that wasn't even truly meant.
In Post Edit 2: Absum is dead town @InterstellarHobo
InterstellarHobo
Cosmic Vagrant
- Location
- No Fixed Planetary System
Yyyes?
I was quoting myself from D3, sorry if the utterly fucked formatting made that unclear. Should I repost that more readably?
- Location
- Alabama
- Pronouns
- He/They
Oh, my bad. The formatting made me think that was you adding commentary to a previous post of yours that got ignored, to try and reenter it into public concious.
Cyricubed
Residant Bird.
- Location
- United States
- Pronouns
- He/Him/Birb
Urg. I just woke up, my week did not improve over the start of the weekend so I didn't spend it trying to look through the game at all. I have a VTM session today and stuff after so I'll probably be looking at this like...late 8pm my time.
I'd like to look more into Est, I couldn't find anything really on 1K by the time I had to get dragged away. That being said I would have stayed on Absum to provide secondary options given happery lynch was X2 the size.
I'd like to look more into Est, I couldn't find anything really on 1K by the time I had to get dragged away. That being said I would have stayed on Absum to provide secondary options given happery lynch was X2 the size.
Nictis
Best Sidekick
- Location
- Ninja Dave's Cookies
- Pronouns
- Any
Not lynching list (Without some fucking amazing persuasion)
-Evenstar
-Ban,
-DimensionalGuy
-QTesseract (It's true, we're not lynching him today)
-Meso
-1KBestK
Potential List
-Cyricubed (Need to check previous thoughts again, and then probably read through his posts again anyways T.T)
-Pyrros (Actually just unsure as to alignment)
-InterstellarHobo (Don't remember thoughts on them)
Most likely to be lynched
-ComiTurtle (I just keep stumbling on that claim. Bulletproof Town in this setup, and there's a Doctor. This slot just keeps yelling "Serial Killer" at me)
-Est (???) (???????????????????)
Mostly posting this because my brain doesn't seem to like the idea of me going to sleep without actually doing something here.
-Evenstar
-Ban,
-DimensionalGuy
-QTesseract (It's true, we're not lynching him today)
-Meso
-1KBestK
Potential List
-Cyricubed (Need to check previous thoughts again, and then probably read through his posts again anyways T.T)
-Pyrros (Actually just unsure as to alignment)
-InterstellarHobo (Don't remember thoughts on them)
Most likely to be lynched
-ComiTurtle (I just keep stumbling on that claim. Bulletproof Town in this setup, and there's a Doctor. This slot just keeps yelling "Serial Killer" at me)
-Est (???) (???????????????????)
Mostly posting this because my brain doesn't seem to like the idea of me going to sleep without actually doing something here.
- Location
- US
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I like the bit about not lynching me, and you explained your reasoning with regards to Evenstar (and QT
), but I don't see how you can get firm town reads on the others. Can you explain your thinking?
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- She/Her
EOD Votal summary:
D1:
-Rosen (6): Mesonoxian, Evenstar, Nictis, DimensionalGuy, QTesseract, InterstellarHobo
ComiTurtle (2): Cyricubed, Happerry
Evenstar (1): BanTheFairyKing
Est (1): Nanimani
DimensionalGuy (1): 1KBestK
BanTheFairyKing (1): Est
Not Voting (5): PyrrosWarrior, -Rosen, Look To The Left, ComiTurtle, Happerry
D2:
Look To The Left (5): DimensionalGuy, Nanimani, Mesonoxian, InterstellarHobo, Nictis
Nanimani (2): Absum, Evenstar
BanTheFairyKing (1): Est
Evenstar (1): BanTheFairyKing
Absum (1): Cyricubed
Not Voting (5): PyrrosWarrior, Look To The Left, ComiTurtle, Happerry, 1KBestK
D3:
Happerry (7): BanTheFairyKing, Absum, InterstellarHobo, Mesonoxian, Nictis, PyrrosWarrior, DimensionalGuy
Absum (4): Cyricubed, Evenstar, 1KBestK, ComiTurtle
Not Voting (2): Happerry, Est
Annnd now let's do paint-by-numbers in a separate post.
D1:
-Rosen (6): Mesonoxian, Evenstar, Nictis, DimensionalGuy, QTesseract, InterstellarHobo
ComiTurtle (2): Cyricubed, Happerry
Evenstar (1): BanTheFairyKing
Est (1): Nanimani
DimensionalGuy (1): 1KBestK
BanTheFairyKing (1): Est
Not Voting (5): PyrrosWarrior, -Rosen, Look To The Left, ComiTurtle, Happerry
D2:
Look To The Left (5): DimensionalGuy, Nanimani, Mesonoxian, InterstellarHobo, Nictis
Nanimani (2): Absum, Evenstar
BanTheFairyKing (1): Est
Evenstar (1): BanTheFairyKing
Absum (1): Cyricubed
Not Voting (5): PyrrosWarrior, Look To The Left, ComiTurtle, Happerry, 1KBestK
D3:
Happerry (7): BanTheFairyKing, Absum, InterstellarHobo, Mesonoxian, Nictis, PyrrosWarrior, DimensionalGuy
Absum (4): Cyricubed, Evenstar, 1KBestK, ComiTurtle
Not Voting (2): Happerry, Est
Annnd now let's do paint-by-numbers in a separate post.
Evenstar
Triple Jump Unlocked
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Paint by numbers:
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Conclusions:
Lynch BanTheFairyKing today. He's the instigator of the dumbass Happerry lynch, he's probably unaligned with Est, and both D1 and D2 he was off-wagon voting for me for no goddamn reason.
Would also accept DimensionalGuy or Cyricubed.
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Conclusions:
Lynch BanTheFairyKing today. He's the instigator of the dumbass Happerry lynch, he's probably unaligned with Est, and both D1 and D2 he was off-wagon voting for me for no goddamn reason.
Would also accept DimensionalGuy or Cyricubed.
Nictis
Best Sidekick
- Location
- Ninja Dave's Cookies
- Pronouns
- Any
DimensionalGuy I'm assuming is for post numbers at this point, Cyricubed I plan on looking into myself, but I am curious on what the bit about Est is?