shepsquared
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Android 8 already exists and so does Gero. Assuming he built on previous work instead of having a grand epiphany with his later Androids, the base tech already exists anyway.
Nah, I was referring to the Energy Absorption bit which not only doesn't exist for another ten years, but no one else managed to duplicate. It was also a central feature in making Super 17 relevant as a fight during his arc.Android 8 already exists and so does Gero. Assuming he built on previous work instead of having a grand epiphany with his later Androids, the base tech already exists anyway.
As much as I'd like to think otherwise, her role in the story thus far has been exactly the tech issue panacea with nigh instant success. Not really saying she should go out of her way and steal Gero's Thunder on the android tech tree, but it's not entirely a fool's errand to set her in the power research to aid Broly, seeing how just the mention of gravity based tech get him all excited....That is an almost staggering lack of self-awareness there.
Considering the technology you're referring to, which was also unequalled on the Galactic stage, doesnt appear in canon on a level that would be remotely relevant to Broly for over a decade, and was the result of a gestation process that took almost three times that amount of time, then you'll forgive me for turning your own words back on you.
Doubly so, in fact, since you're using your own completely imagined estimate as a justification for taking a certain course of action rather than me pointing out that Broly's growth still completely outstrips whatever Bulma will wind up being capable of producing by the time she actually manages to get that far.
Which is simply a matter of fact, even with your most rosy predictions of how Bulma could function as some kind of technological panacea for a hypothetical any possible problem with nigh-instant success.
Which she isn't. There are, in fact, some things which are beyond her capability to do. Most of them have to do with scale. Of which the "worthy opponent" bit is categorized as MAXIMUM SCALE.
thats true.As much as I'd like to think otherwise, her role in the story thus far has been exactly the tech issue panacea with nigh instant success. Not really saying she should go out of her way and steal Gero's Thunder on the android tech tree, but it's not entirely a fool's errand to set her in the power research to aid Broly, seeing how just the mention of gravity based tech get him all excited
Bulma having yet to meet a problem she can't handle is not at all the same as her being infinitely infalliable. Broly's level of power growth is horrifically outside her ability to make something to match him, and always will be - the strongest androids made were Super Perfect Cell (killed by an SSJ2) and Super Android 17 (Dragon Fisted by GT Goku). The first took 30 years to reach Imperfect Form, the second...probably wouldn't ever exist in this timeline anyways.As much as I'd like to think otherwise, her role in the story thus far has been exactly the tech issue panacea with nigh instant success. Not really saying she should go out of her way and steal Gero's Thunder on the android tech tree, but it's not entirely a fool's errand to set her in the power research to aid Broly, seeing how just the mention of gravity based tech get him all excited
And, of course, if Cell ever does come back there's a good chance there'll be a bit of Broly in there, too. Should be fun.
Doesnt Broly's energy signature corrode stuff that isn't Broly excepting his Power Batteries?Pretty sure that Bulma can't make something that'd matter to Broly like that. Bulma and Broly working together, on the other hand? Probably more capable.
Likewise, so long as Gero doesn't let the existence of other power sources blind him from his own ideas, he now has a lot more information about strength and extraterrestrial tech, too, most likely. So he might well be able to create even more powerful generators for his Androids. Kinda wonderingwe might if we might see 17 and 18 with both their Infinite Energy things from canon and Energy Absorption stuff as a back-up?
Heck, if he gets his hands on Broly's blaster and shielding tech, that right there might allow him to improve the shielding systems he gave his Androids which were already rather more impressive than is generally acknowledged since they don't, uh... really use them all that often when you'd expect them to.
And, of course, if Cell ever does come back there's a good chance there'll be a bit of Broly in there, too. Should be fun.
I'm talking about how long it took for Dr. Gero to manufacture the technology.You're throwing this decade shit way too often when everything tech revolution that ascend existing tech base had been an arbitrary shit when it comes to named characters, and usually occur within a year while concurrently being worked on with other disciplines
Probably not! Buuut it might give Gero some ideas for Cell, even if he can't get the legendary stuff to replicate so much. I can't really see Cell being stronger than Broly, the issue is if Cell is stronger than whoever is on Earth to defend it at the time, and Broly doesn't get there. Hopefully a set of Dragonballs will survive if this comes to pass -- but Gero could also just give up and go home in the intervening time, who knows? It is, after all, a long way out no matter what.Don't worry, i think that our legendary form is more of a soul think than a biologycal one so 98% sure we won't see a Legendary super perfect Cell
So far? Yeah, I think so. Do I want to assume that there'd be no way to solve that? Not so much.Doesnt Broly's energy signature corrode stuff that isn't Broly excepting his Power Batteries?
Definitely a project for the futureI think it's a little less time for him to start it, but not for it to become relevant in canon. I don't know how long 17 and 18 were in storage, but it was a pretty long while, and done because they were largely uncontrollable. So it's uncertain when he might actually finish the design -- though I tend to assume he's the one that cyborgizes Taopaipai, and he was much weaker, so... actually, yeah, given that that event is still, I think, about six years out? A decade seems like a reasonable estimation.
Probably not! Buuut it might give Gero some ideas for Cell, even if he can't get the legendary stuff to replicate so much. I can't really see Cell being stronger than Broly, the issue is if Cell is stronger than whoever is on Earth to defend it at the time, and Broly doesn't get there. Hopefully a set of Dragonballs will survive if this comes to pass -- but Gero could also just give up and go home in the intervening time, who knows? It is, after all, a long way out no matter what.
So far? Yeah, I think so. Do I want to assume that there'd be no way to solve that? Not so much.
Dunno if Gero'd be able to, but the more I think about it, the more I'm wondering about a situation where Bulma modifies the Androids to improve them after the Gero thing is done (if it goes by canon), so that Broly has some help/fights that are closer to his weight class.
What one superscientist cannot do, multiple superscientists likely can. And Broly would be all about making worthwhile opponents that wouldn't just crumble when he fought them, so long as overall they were allies. His sparring with Cooler, after all, is one of the big ways in which the two have grown closer. Even if it took souped-up 17 and 18 together to push him at that stage, I can see him having fun.
To those dying to get a peek of what's coming, I'd recommend trawling back through the thread for any and all comments from me about the Heranse - there might be hints there...
Contracts fly from your ship, and chefs from around the cosmos start their treks to instruct your pupil. Already, the first few arrivals find the boy's propensity to eat ingredients mid-lesson ghastly, but not a one of them is so enthused with their imagined importance that they actually complain. That, and when they see Broly copy their labors in an instant while popping food out of thin air, their earlier masked derision is readily quenched. Tuffle truffle confections, ancient recipes for Heran curries, Saiyan smoking methods - anything and everything is worthy of being understood to better pad out what food Broly can make.
Why wait for Gero to get his shit together? There is already a couple Gete clones that can be reverse engineered and improved uponI'm talking about how long it took for Dr. Gero to manufacture the technology.
Sorry for being remotely aware of the timeline?
Because Gete Star tech is inferior to Geros technology on top of being stupidly resource intensive to makeWhy wait for Gero to get his shit together? There is already a couple Gete clones that can be reverse engineered and improved upon
That's for when we're Cooler againSo, I do have a question relating to the seemingly imminent end to all this mess.
What are we going to do afterwards?
Yes, the consequences are yet to fully shake out, but we've got a basic handle on things. And it'd be good to talk about our long term goals anyway.
Okay, sure, let's turn off our brains until then.
We are completely ignorant of Coolers perspective, and he's the one that has the grasp of the larger situation and the ability to set long term goalsOkay, sure, let's turn off our brains until then.
Or, we could be Cooler now, by way of considering what we want and how to aim for it before we need to make the choice.
I like the latter option better, personally.
Okay, sure, let's turn off our brains until then.
Or, we could be Cooler now, by way of considering what we want and how to aim for it before we need to make the choice.
I like the latter option better, personally.