That's probably the reason why, despite being pretty much the best human sailor in the world, his trips barely break even most of the time.
that, and his drinking problem.
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that, and his drinking problem.
I was assuming some of those stats only just hit that level with his exaltation.
What drinking problem? I assure you, he drinks only as much as a man in his position is expected to.
*empties wineskin into mouth*
King Arthur
The Once and Future King
The thing is, can the other ships do the sorts of things the ship we are on can? If not, we might want to send them on less dangerous adventures then the ones we take our ship on, and if it's going to be separate from us anyway what's the difference between an investment in another ship and an investment in something else?
Chargen was a while ago, but I do remember a lot of argument over which direction to take the character and what we wanted him to do, followed by half assed compromise.
If Sal can barely stay afloat financially with one ship, what are the chance that a ship he isn't personally piloting will be profitable?
That said, maybe a bigger ship would be nice.
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Heretek
Techpriest of Tzeentch
Well I don't know how the skill works with multiple ships, but War 5 Sail 5 has to count for something. There are a couple of nice Sail Charms that help; Immortal Captain's Advantage lets us use Sail Charms on ships we own even if we're not on them and gives us extra Sail specific motes to play with, and Invincible Admiral Method makes just about everything easier for any ship "following our lead." Sort of connected, Ship Claiming Stance makes everything harder for anyone who boards our ships without permission.
But the easiest way, exp wise, would probably just be to get a bigger, fightier boat and hire a crew of dedicated marines.
Salvadore has Bureaucracy 1, Intelligence 3 for a combined dice pool of 4 and a 2nd Excellency to help him get an extra two successes he'll need. A dice pool of 4 is about what you'd expect from a junior merchant not quite ready to strike out on their own, but trusted enough to mind the shop without supervision for an evening. He's clever enough to avoid the worst pitfalls and can generally make ends meet, but a master market manipulator he is not. If he were to engage in something reliant on quick thinking or picking up on trends (modern day stock market comes to mind) he'd fare better, but even then he'd be unspectacular until you included the Excellency. His strengths as a merchant come from skills beyond being a merchant; he won't get the best prices for the cargo, but getting it there ahead of the competition is a selling point on its own.
Oh, like stupid ideas have stopped players before.
I would rather steal one... out of Naggarond. What's the worst that could happen?
I like the cut of your jib.
Oh dear.
Is there anywhere he hasn't fucked up so far made an impression in? Sartosa?
Marienburg. Altdorf. Sjoktraken. L'Anguille. Parts of Mousillon for another day or so. Lotheran if he can keep his mouth shut. Possibly Erengrad by now. ....Ind?
Of course, there are impressions and then there are impressions.
You don't need to be a moral crusader to hate the Druchii. It helps, but not as much as one might think.
He doesn't have a drinking problem. He has a 'wine keeps disappearing' problem. He can't prove it's elves, but he has his suspicions.
On a practical level they steal and break your stuff!
We should be a good admiral...if we had a fleet.
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How to play Solars:
1) Come up with stupidly reckless plan.
2) Begin executing plan.
3) Get into trouble.
4) Dodge all negative consequences because fuckit you're a Solar.
Imrix
Periodically Malevolent QM
Fixed that for you.
Like I said, there's an argument for not doing things the normal way.
Manipulation + Presence roll to hire an appropriately skilled clerk to help with that.
Or Int + Sail to assess the fleets of other major players and identify opportunities, along with social combat to acquire Contacts.
Depends on what the stakes are.
Death and destruction, the possible collapse of empires? Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!
The loss of a waifu? Players tend to get diffident.
Well, he's an Eclipse now. That should get easier.
True; the Druchii make it easy, which is quite a feat on a planet with both Orks and Chaos.
But consider.
Salvator goes out of his way to avoid entanglements with the church. Has no particular opinion on Brettonian serfdom as implemented.
He has his passions, but other than conventional prejudices, they seem to be well hidden.
I don't really see him going out of his way to right injustices, barring intoxication, which admittedly is a problem.
He's Compassion 3, not Compassion 4.
He needs to go to Ulthuan for an exorcism
Or a cool artifact.
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There's also the template for Infernals, which is almost identical to Solars but has a three-minute guitar solo in the middle.
That's still enough to force a roll, though, isn't it?
So he actually should be fairly compassionate, since Compassion should be pinging him.
Imrix
Periodically Malevolent QM
Indeed. Always remember, kids: Malfeas only seems emo until you realise he listens to Slipknot and cuts himself with industrial chainsaws.
He's really kinda metal...
Not really sure why people are getting so hung up over Bureaucracy. 4 dice is about average for most mortals in their profession, 5 if you assume a specialty. Salvadore's got the Excellency, though, which theoretically jumps him up to the equivalent of 8 dice in terms of skill, which would be equal to major merchants. Good enough for most of our needs.
That said, part of the point of caste/favored abilities is that they're quick and cheap to raise. So if people would prefer to get into the merchant business, we could easily spend 4 xp to jump from "about average" to "solidly above average" in terms of dice pool.
That said, part of the point of caste/favored abilities is that they're quick and cheap to raise. So if people would prefer to get into the merchant business, we could easily spend 4 xp to jump from "about average" to "solidly above average" in terms of dice pool.
Revlid
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Alright, so just binged this - great writing from @Slamu, really sells the era and culture while being entertaining and packed with character.
I do have to ask, however, what the fuck you players are doing to Salvadore.
You are a seaborne trader and adventurer with... no Sail Charms. You bought a goddamn Occult Excellency - and not even a good one! - instead of literally any Sail or Bureaucracy Charm available to you right now. I appreciate that our swarthy and acrobatic pirate prince somehow lacks any dots in Athletics with which to climb rigging, keep his balance, or swim, so Graceful Crane Stance is off the table, but in the name of Myrmidia, just look at what you've kept from him, even just in 2e!
My god, you pre-bought an Essence 3 Presence Charm instead of the Charm literally made for being a Dread and/or Dashing Pirate:
Not to mention everything Bureaucracy can offer - Insightful Buyer Technique alone would let us corner markets, and Frugal Merchant Method is Bureaucracy 1 Essence 1 and lets us beat any trading scam. Why in the world would you buy the Second Bureaucracy Excellency (which will at most give us +2 successes for 4m) when you could grab Frugal Merchant Method and get a perfect awareness of any item's condition and quality and +3 successes for 1m when haggling? Whyyyyyyy
I do have to ask, however, what the fuck you players are doing to Salvadore.
You are a seaborne trader and adventurer with... no Sail Charms. You bought a goddamn Occult Excellency - and not even a good one! - instead of literally any Sail or Bureaucracy Charm available to you right now. I appreciate that our swarthy and acrobatic pirate prince somehow lacks any dots in Athletics with which to climb rigging, keep his balance, or swim, so Graceful Crane Stance is off the table, but in the name of Myrmidia, just look at what you've kept from him, even just in 2e!
Ignore rough seas, thick mists, darkness, hail, smoke, confusion, sorcery, and more.Salty Dog Method said:
Hamper boarders and saboteurs and foes, open up the path to a literally invincible ship.Ship-Claiming Stance said:
Sail to Lustria, Ind, or Cathay, with no problem whatsoever.Perfect Reckoning Technique said:
Flip the bird to Scylla and Charybdis. Note that two successes is roughly equivalent to four dice, which means this Charm takes a crew of average conditioning and professional training and makes them world class when fighting off threats.Storm-Weathering Essence Infusion said:
Invisible ship.Sea Ambush Technique said:
My god, you pre-bought an Essence 3 Presence Charm instead of the Charm literally made for being a Dread and/or Dashing Pirate:
Mariner's Parable Defense said:
Not to mention everything Bureaucracy can offer - Insightful Buyer Technique alone would let us corner markets, and Frugal Merchant Method is Bureaucracy 1 Essence 1 and lets us beat any trading scam. Why in the world would you buy the Second Bureaucracy Excellency (which will at most give us +2 successes for 4m) when you could grab Frugal Merchant Method and get a perfect awareness of any item's condition and quality and +3 successes for 1m when haggling? Whyyyyyyy
Imrix
Periodically Malevolent QM
still back on Fangs for Nothing
but
what the blueberry fudgemuffins did you idiots do with chargen
i'm sitting here with revlid, utterly aghast. how do you make an Eclipse with no Eclipse Charms
why
do you have any idea how useful this stuff would be for you
look at this shit
NO? JUST GONNA WALK ON BY TO THAT OCCULT EXCELLENCY IN THE RED DRESS?
o-oh
well okay then
but
what the blueberry fudgemuffins did you idiots do with chargen
i'm sitting here with revlid, utterly aghast. how do you make an Eclipse with no Eclipse Charms
why
do you have any idea how useful this stuff would be for you
look at this shit
I'M MR. ENTRY-TIER CHARM AND I'M HERE TO SAY SURPRISE COCKFACE
WHAT'S THAT YOU SAY? [Insert Desired Good] IS HARD TO COME BY? NOT ANYMORE SAYS I, MS. ESSENCE 1 NO-PREREQ CHARM!
"... REDEFINE A CHURCH'S DOGMA OR CHANGE THE PREVAILING BELIEFS OF A NATION," THIS IS A CHARGEN CHARM. DO YOU WANT ESTALIAN WIZARDS? PRESS HERE FOR ESTALIAN WIZARDS.
HI HELLO YES I SEE YOU ARE IN ESTALIA, LAND OF DUELS OVER PETTY BULLSHIT. PLEASE ALLOW ME TO HELP WITH THAT.
NO? JUST GONNA WALK ON BY TO THAT OCCULT EXCELLENCY IN THE RED DRESS?
o-oh
well okay then
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Revlid
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...okay, look, if you'd chosen to be a Kislevite Dawn Caste fighting back the Troll Country hordes, that'd be cool. And if you'd invested heavily in Melee and Resistance and War Charms, that'd be cool. Because that's what that character is doing and those are the tools he needs to do it well. Sure, I might encourage you to invest in Performance for Heart-Compelling Method to get big speeches, or Survival for crossing the winter wastelands with Trackless Region Navigation but you'd be investing in the stuff you actually need to suit your concept. It wouldn't be a problem.
You've chosen to play an Eclipse... with no actual Eclipse Charms.
You've chosen to play a sailor with no Sail Charms, a trader with no Bureaucracy Charms, and a charmer with no Socialize Charms.
Instead you have an Occult Excellency. Why? There are other strange purchases, here, but what possible use do you see yourself getting out of a 2nd Occult Excellency?
Chargen was a while ago and I had to go back and refresh myself on the details.
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In his defense,I only really pushed back on the larceny charms, and excellencies were free, so I guess that's why no one pushed back on the Third Excellencies.
I guess we knew it would be nautical themed, but we didn't know that we'd become captain of a ship so fast. I guess we were wondering about how to hack and slash our way to becoming captain, or something like that.
Winning plan for reference:A Champion of Gods & Rogues (Warhammer Fantasy/Exalted)
In his defense,I only really pushed back on the larceny charms, and excellencies were free, so I guess that's why no one pushed back on the Third Excellencies.
I guess we knew it would be nautical themed, but we didn't know that we'd become captain of a ship so fast. I guess we were wondering about how to hack and slash our way to becoming captain, or something like that.