Bloody druchii.

Was that a daemon weapon?!

No, of course not. You'd have to be like, stupidly arrogant and totally reckless to carry something like that around. No one's that much of a tool, right?

...also you might want to avoid the fish from that particular patch of water for the next century or so. There's a good chance they'll be, uh, bitey.
 
Is the dark elf ship infected with Dhar or something? I wasn't aware that had to quarantine their shit like you have to do with chaos.
If it is, then why did he bother bringing it back, and not sink it at sea or something?
 
No, of course not. You'd have to be like, stupidly arrogant and totally reckless to carry something like that around. No one's that much of a tool, right?

...also you might want to avoid the fish from that particular patch of water for the next century or so. There's a good chance they'll be, uh, bitey.
So I'm guessing we used Enemy-Castigating Solar Judgement in that scene?

Unrelated question, did we not have enough votes to buy the second dot of linguistics?
 
A little surprised that after ALL THAT, people aren't asking HOW IN ALL THE HELLS DID ONE MAN, A HUMAN, WIPE OUT AN ENTIRE DARK ELF CORSAIR CREW BY HIMSELF?!

Is there some kind charm he's unknowingly using to ward off such questions, even questions he should be asking himself?
 
A little surprised that after ALL THAT, people aren't asking HOW IN ALL THE HELLS DID ONE MAN, A HUMAN, WIPE OUT AN ENTIRE DARK ELF CORSAIR CREW BY HIMSELF?!

Is there some kind charm he's unknowingly using to ward off such questions, even questions he should be asking himself?
There are plenty of badasses in the setting. Even excluding the one's blessed by gods or magic, how strong and tough a mundane human can get in WHFB is much higher than in real life. It's like how Batman is 'peak human.'
 
There are plenty of badasses in the setting. Even excluding the one's blessed by gods or magic, how strong and tough a mundane human can get in WHFB is much higher than in real life. It's like how Batman is 'peak human.'
Yeah, but elves can live for centuries gathering experience and skills.

ONE heroic mortal being supernaturally blessed enough to take out a whole crew of Druchii is still REALLY something to talk about!

I hope the other Exalts of his Circle-to-be aren't as lacking in awareness as our Eclipse Exalt is!
 
Yeah, but elves can live for centuries gathering experience and skills.

ONE heroic mortal being supernaturally blessed enough to take out a whole crew of Druchii is still REALLY something to talk about!

I hope the other Exalts of his Circle-to-be aren't as lacking in awareness as our Eclipse Exalt is!

No? With enough faith/luck they can take on anything up to greater demons. Rarely, but not unheard of.
Like, this definitely matks him as badass, but compared to shit Karl Franz or Magnus or probably a lot of mark lords or Kislev lords (they get the title of bafass just by virtue of surviving Kislev) pulled off it is not all that crazy.
 
Is the dark elf ship infected with Dhar or something? I wasn't aware that had to quarantine their shit like you have to do with chaos.
If it is, then why did he bother bringing it back, and not sink it at sea or something?

I don't think so. I think Salvatore simply wants to make a statement/deal with some of the demons of his past. And I would suspect he towed the ship to have proof of his actions since without that people might not be that inclined to believe that such a small crew bested elven corsairs.
 
So he laughed, loud and mocking. Salvadore had already had the elf's attention, but this at least interrupted whatever monologue he had planned. "Keeb." Salvadore wasn't really sure what the word meant, but he had payed nearly a month's savings to a dwarf language-keeper for something in Eltharin that would be almost guaranteed to insult an elf enough that they felt they had to respond to it somehow.
:V:V:V

-If a Melee 5, War 5 Eclipse still took 25% casualties in his crew in order to kill a crew a third the size of his own?
How the hell do lesser people even survive the druchii?
-This is the second time Sal's been lucky enough to leave no surviving witnesses to his magic. Can't last.
-Isn't Sal's crew a little on the small side for an ocean-farer?
I don't have much knowledge of sailships besides reading a couple copies of Hornblower and Ramage years ago, but 18 crewmen seems miniscule.
Especially given some of the marine threats of Warhammer. Same for the dark elves, who as land raiders, have significantly greater need for military force.
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Across the waves he was counting elven heads, eight above deck. Perhaps half again as many below, and his own company not even two score strong.
The Foam Dancer had taken on less than a dozen elves with eighteen sailors, three armored men and a halfling, and had emerged with only a quarter of them dead and six more expected to meet Myrmidia's father before they made port.
"At least eight, probably a dozen. No witch-elf I saw, but I'll give them no more room to prove me wrong than I have to."
Is Senor Chavez's crew twentyish or fortyish? Which is it @Slamu

-Betting Magdalene is married; knights are not the only ones who can be pragmatic:V That, or a kid.
-Lol at his distaste for water.
-Is that why we were voting for the tenor of Salvator's anger? To determine whether his dislike for elves was on principle(cold) or personal(hot)?
I suspect that Baltasar is going to go ask pointed questions of Pieter, since Sal seems intent on dodging the issue.
 
-If a Melee 5, War 5 Eclipse still took 25% casualties in his crew in order to kill a crew a third the size of his own?
How the hell do lesser people even survive the druchii?
Not at all.
Humans usually don't win against Druuchi Raider unless they have a far bigger difference in numbers. Or great heroes or mages.

Otherwise you'll propably want to be at least 10:1 with actual soldiers, not some lightly equipped sailors, before risking anything against Elves.
 
'less than x' is true even if vastly less than. That's not automatically an error.
Technically true. But that's not how language is used.
When a person says "Not even so-and-so number" he generally means he's in the ballpark but not up to.
Not at all.
Humans usually don't win against Druuchi Raider unless they have a far bigger difference in numbers. Or great heroes or mages.
Otherwise you'll propably want to be at least 10:1 with actual soldiers, not some lightly equipped sailors, before risking anything against Elves.
To the best of my knowledge, that was an artefact of the druchii achieving tactical surprise and picking their spots, sending trained soldiers up against basically part-time guards. Not because you require ten to one superiority to beat them, that's insane.

I mean, this was a raider.
Small ship, which means it's crew are primarily sailors themselves, no matter how much martial training they received.No slaves to pull the oars or whatnot. Maybe one or two professional soldiers in the lot of them.
 
To the best of my knowledge, that was an artefact of the druchii achieving tactical surprise and picking their spots, sending trained soldiers up against basically part-time guards. Not because you require ten to one superiority to beat them, that's insane.
I mean, did you read our initial duel scene with an Elf? Elves are concentrated bullshit, compared to ordinary humans.

This isn't like D&D, say, where an Elf is basically a longer lived human. This is more like Fae bullshit or the like, where the Elf is several fold better than you just on raw physical attributes, before you get into the decades or centuries of experience and the fact that his or her gear likely comes from Elven craftsmen who have, you know, those same advantages (but now being turned to smithing).
 
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I mean, did you read our initial duel scene with an Elf? Elves are concentrated bullshit, compared to ordinary humans.
This isn't like D&D, say, where an Elf is basically a longer lived human. This is more like Fae bullshit or the like, where the Elf is several fold better than you just on raw physical attributes, before you get into the decades or centuries of experience and the fact that his or her gear likely comes from Elven craftsmen who have, you know, those same advantages (but now being turned to smithing).
I'm well aware of what druchii are. And of what other elves are, in Warhammer at least.
And I still think you overestimate them.

I'm also well aware that the druchii raiders are fond of pitting themselves against peasants and town guard, not anyone you could term peer opponents.
Not that they aren't good; that mandatory military training counts for something, as does their nature. But it's much easier to get a reputation by slaughtering amateurs is what I'm saying.

Especially when you can dictate tactical surprise, and enjoy superior magical support.

Furthermore, these are corsairs.
Not the guys who run Black Arks, or the ones who have sea monsters or slaves running their ship.
Lowest of the low; they did the gruntwork themselves. And had no magical support.

Sal duelled what was effectively elven nobility at the beginning of this quest, at the kind of combat that elves are good at: light/no armor and speed.
1 on 1 an elf should be better. 2 on 1? Iffier. 3 on 1? Noop.
10 on 1 is frankly preposterous; they'd need something else for an edge even at 4:1.
Monsters, magic, whatever.
 
So I'm guessing we used Enemy-Castigating Solar Judgement in that scene?

Well, there was a Solar castigating an enemy and passing judgement, but if you're referring to the charm then not as such, no.

Salvadore showing how badass he is by destroying a demon weapon and killing all those dark elves. Solar Exaltation is a Hell of drug.

He only killed about a third of them, four and a half call it. While certainly he's taken the lion's share of kills (and risk), his primary contribution to the fight was to delay reinforcements boarding the Foam Dancer so the humans could focus down the elves already boarding her. And technically speaking the weapon (which isn't a proper daemon weapon so much as a credible first try that can also be used as a weapon normally) was not destroyed, just lost at sea.

Is there some kind charm he's unknowingly using to ward off such questions, even questions he should be asking himself?

Appearance 5, Presence 5, maybe the charm was inside you all along?

I'm not saying that Paco and Pieter have protocols for what happens if the captain gets caught staring into a mirror for hours on end with a long-stemmed rose in his mouth, but there's a shortage of long-stemmed roses aboard the Foam Dancer after the first few theoretical incidents may have occurred.

HOW IN ALL THE HELLS DID ONE MAN, A HUMAN, WIPE OUT AN ENTIRE DARK ELF CORSAIR CREW BY HIMSELF?!

That'd be pretty remarkable, if it happened. It didn't though, so such is obviously pure fancy.

I hope the other Exalts of his Circle-to-be aren't as lacking in awareness as our Eclipse Exalt is!

Salvadore has Perception 4 and Awareness 3. I mean, he's not too shabby in the awareness department, so I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. /kidding

No? With enough faith/luck they can take on anything up to greater demons. Rarely, but not unheard of.

Normally if human nations expect to be fighting greater daemons they bring artillery. Unless you're Bretonnia, in which case you bring Grail Knights. Which is, uh, a pretty fair fight actually. Still probably give it to that Keeper of Secrets, but Grail Knights bring all kinds of hurt. (Empire prefers to place their faith in big guns. Kislev, naturally, uses bears).

-If a Melee 5, War 5 Eclipse still took 25% casualties in his crew in order to kill a crew a third the size of his own?
How the hell do lesser people even survive the druchii?

There's a reason Ulthuan rules the waves, and it's not (just) seniority. Elves generally can choose when, where, and how they attack using dirty, dirty tricks like having floating cities full of raiders and sorceresses that can raise mists, listen to the wind and turn day into night. When Dark Elf armies have taken significant casualties, it's usually because either their commander was maneuvered into a battle of attrition, their sorceresses couldn't run roughshod over the enemy, knives in the dark failed to take enough leadership down to decapitate the opposing army, or they didn't have some of their beasties to act as linebreakers.

War 5 also didn't have as much direct influence on the outcome of this fight, as seeking out the ship was not part of a greater campaign nor was there much in the way of tactical maneuvering done. There were a few rolls for it, but overall this was going to be a grind.

-Isn't Sal's crew a little on the small side for an ocean-farer?
I don't have much knowledge of sailships besides reading a couple copies of Hornblower and Ramage years ago, but 18 crewmen seems miniscule.
Especially given some of the marine threats of Warhammer. Same for the dark elves, who as land raiders, have significantly greater need for military force.

The Foam Dancer is a merchant ship, not a warship. Granted in most navies 'warship' is likely to mean 'merchant ship we conscripted and stuffed full of soldiers', but it was laid down with the intent to move cargo cheaply and with a minimum of crew. It's hard to find exact numbers for ships, but when you're looking at a warship you're also looking at large crews because there is an expectation that you're going to need large crews to fight other ships with large crews, either in boarding parties or manning the dozens of guns aboard a ship's broadsides (each gun requiring four or five men to service it, adds up fast). A merchant ship, on the other hand, wants as few hands to pay as the ship's owner thinks they could get away with to reduce wages and make room for more cargo. Their primary concern is skilled seamen, which while they can get by with a large number of land lubbers in the crew there needs to be a core of old salts to literally show them the ropes (and provide age-old wisdom, such as 'don't touch that' and 'slacking off on this job can get us all killed, I find you doing that again you'll get your face beat so hard your mother'll shit teeth').

You make a cognizant point about the maritime threats, but while there's more to threaten a ship at sea than in real life (normal hazards such as storms and doldrums on top of 'sea monster attack' and 'orcs') the captain is a skilled enough seaman to avoid most of the natural hazards ("He doesn't, but he could if he wanted to." "Hush, Pieter, you sound like an old woman. It's just a little hurricane.") and many of the other hazards are either not near the Foam Dancer's course (who tries to round Tilea during the spring stormy season? That's a good way to get your sails shredded and hull cracked upon the shore, only crazy people would even try that) or are vulnerable to 'Solar on their ship with a weapon'.

Also he's a bit short on free coin to handle larger crews so long as he sticks to legit jobs, and he still hasn't offloaded those pearls. If the consensus was that you were more interested in work that some might be considered piratical, that'd be a fast way to make both coin and enemies, but it's not like Salvadore needs help making more of either of those is it?

Is Senor Chavez's crew twentyish or fortyish? Which is it @Slamu

The Senor Chavez is a horse breeder by trade, so Baltasar has no crew per se. The Foam Dancer's complement is 20 though, as that's what two dots of followers gets you.

-Is that why we were voting for the tenor of Salvator's anger? To determine whether his dislike for elves was on principle(cold) or personal(hot)?

Sorta, though the immediate effect was how he engaged the elven ship; a hot blooded Salvadore would see him taking the first opportunity to bring the hurt to the elves, which would see him injured and a fair portion of the crew injured or killed as well, but the elves didn't have time to get desperate and initiate the 'no one is allowed to have a nice day' protocol which would have essentially slaughtered the prisoners and force-fed the vampire blood beyond capacity and have him start wrecking things indiscriminately while the senior crew either tried to swim to land or lurk nearby and see how things turned out. It would have been put down with a surprisingly minimal amount of fuss (Salvadore pins it to the deck and has the crew hit it like a blood piñata until it dies again), and there'd be the option to loot the ship rather than 'burn it to the keel', but the real effects are long-term.
 
-If a Melee 5, War 5 Eclipse still took 25% casualties in his crew in order to kill a crew a third the size of his own?
How the hell do lesser people even survive the druchii?
Remember troop quality matters even if you have a super commander. Our crew might not be dregs, but in Exalted terms the corsairs have an entire Might rating over our crew due to being low-supernatural bullshit, which is a huge effect when their entire force is of peer size, and the Druchii are packing better skills on average too, as raiders, they make a living killing stuff while our crew are mainly traders/explorers who can defend themselves.

There are charms for that, but we don't have those yet.
Appearance 5, Presence 5, maybe the charm was inside you all along?

I'm not saying that Paco and Pieter have protocols for what happens if the captain gets caught staring into a mirror for hours on end with a long-stemmed rose in his mouth, but there's a shortage of long-stemmed roses aboard the Foam Dancer after the first few theoretical incidents may have occurred.
Roll to seduce himself!
 
While I work on the next update I suppose now is a good time to put the vote on what to spend Salvadore's well-gotten treasure on. He has brought home an amount of treasure worth Resources 4, which is a prince's ransom. Or, to put it in other terms, will pay for the wages, food and sundry incidentals of a tercio for a year, pay for the materials and labor to erect a manse of up to three dots, is the estimated worth of one of an Emir's favored concubines, what a human would pay for a custom-made suit of dwarf-forged mail, what the Prince of Luccini pays his household staff every month or fair market value for a Bretonnian gelding.
 
I'd say we buy dwarf forged armor.

We can take everywhere with us and helps us keep our entrails where they belong.

OTOH, we could take a tercio and go take over the Border Princes or something. Because War 5 +Excellency is OP.

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Could we get a better ship?
 
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I'd say we buy dwarf forged armor.

We can take everywhere with us and helps us keep our entrails where they belong.

OTOH, we could take a tercio and go take over the Border Princes or something. Because War 5 +Excellency is OP.

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Could we get a better ship?

Why would we even need Border Princes?
I say we should set up a trade post somewhere in a lucrative spot and get started on trade company.
 
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