[X] Stop him.
-[X] Demand to go with him. He's on trial because of you and you're going to take some responsibility.
 
[X] Stop him.
-[X] Demand to go with him. He's on trial because of you and you're going to take some responsibility.


Hey Birdsie, provided that you don't mind me asking, how's that final update for the King of Heroes quest coming along? The vote's pretty much decided at this point... (Once again, my apologies if I'm needlessly bothering you.)
 
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[X] Stop him.
-[X] Demand to go with him. He's on trial because of you and you're going to take some responsibility.
--[X] Try and argue to Cervitou that if he performs the ritual, he won't have to keep getting you out of trouble.
---[X] If that also fails, say that you'll owe him a favor.

Hey Birdsie, provided that you don't mind me asking, how's that final update for the King of Heroes quest coming along? The vote's pretty much decided at this point... (Once again, my apologies if I'm needlessly bothering you.)
You ! I like you just for the fact that you have Reinhard as an avatar. I approve ! *thumbs up*
 
[X] Stop him.
-[X] Demand to go with him. He's on trial because of you and you're going to take some responsibility.
--[X] Try and argue to Cervitou that if he performs the ritual, he won't have to keep getting you out of trouble.
---[X] If that also fails, say that you'll owe him a favor.

Hey Birdsie, provided that you don't mind me asking, how's that final update for the King of Heroes quest coming along? The vote's pretty much decided at this point... (Once again, my apologies if I'm needlessly bothering you.)
Hm? Are people still interested in that? Okay, I'll make the last update.
 
Cervitou turns around and begins walking away. Midway to the stairs, he stops, turns and adds one last bit of information before continuing down the stairs. "Then the throat!"
Er, what? I am not sure I understand what he is telling us.

I also think he isn't making sense - taking on the dragon alone meant 'without our family's backing' and no more than that. Charming a local noble into lending us an army was on the table, after all. Everyone who ended up instrumental in the outcome was someone we met ourselves. Eh, but grumpy old men are entitled to their grumbling, especially after that demon/soul business.

We REALLY need that ritual for our future development,
We kinda don't? I mean, invulnerability is nifty, it's right up there with immortality and eternal youth, but it's not like we NEED it. Our folks have been fine without it, as were their folks, and it's not because they didn't have the opportunity to enhance themselves with black magic.

[X] Stop him.
-[X] Demand to go with him. He's on trial because of you and you're going to take some responsibility.

I'd drop the ritual for the time being.
 
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Er, what? I am not sure I understand what he is telling us.

He is mentioning that if we didn't want to blow up the head or heart with explosion magic, we should have gone for the throat.
you'd blow his head into bits while he was still sleeping."
"Then the heart," he says.

I also think he isn't making sense - taking on the dragon alone meant 'without our family's backing' and no more than that. Charming a local noble into lending us an army was on the table, after all. Everyone who ended up instrumental in the outcome was someone we met ourselves. Eh, but grumpy old men are entitled to their grumbling, especially after that demon/soul business.

He is giving Artoria a much needed reality check on not being arrogant and trying to do everything herself and making reckless/thoughtless decisions. He is mainly miffed that Artoria is claiming that she soloed the dragon when in practice she got lucky and used the help and reputation of others to succeed. He is also pointing out that what she is did was incredible dangerous and stupid and she should have asked for help rather than trying to do it on her own.
 
We kinda don't? I mean, invulnerability is nifty, right down there with immortality and eternal youth, but it's not like we NEED it. Our folks have been fine without it, as were their folks, and it's not because they didn't have the opportunity to enhance themselves with black magic.
We kind of need it actually not need it now now but in the near-future, its a FREE power boost ! So we help Cervitou and get the ritual not just limiting our actions to helping him.
He is mentioning that if we didn't want to blow up the head or heart with explosion magic, we should have gone for the throat.





He is giving Artoria a much needed reality check on not being arrogant and trying to do everything herself and making reckless/thoughtless decisions. He is mainly miffed that Artoria is claiming that she soloed the dragon when in practice she got lucky and used the help and reputation of others to succeed. He is also pointing out that what she is did was incredible dangerous and stupid and she should have asked for help rather than trying to do it on her own.
Arrogance is a sin after all he is right but I think he is overreacting, when an assassin poison someone who will claim the kill the poison-maker or the assassin? He is right on one thing thought it was pure luck (and QM's generosity)
 
Arrogance is a sin after all he is right but I think he is overreacting, when an assassin poison someone who will claim the kill the poison-maker or the assassin? He is right on one thing thought it was pure luck (and QM's generosity)

Cervitou isn't overreacting. Artoria needs to have her pride taken down a notch otherwise her arrogance is going to her killed. Nothing that Cervitou said in his speech is wrong.
 
Cervitou isn't overreacting. Artoria needs to have her pride taken down a notch otherwise her arrogance is going to her killed. Nothing that Cervitou said in his speech is wrong.
You misunderstood i agree with him saying we should take down our pride a notch(we didn't thank Beronica and him for their help) but I think that he is overreacting over the fact that we shouldn't claim that we alone killed the Dragon, because it is true we alone killed him.
 
[X] Stop him.
-[X] Demand to go with him. He's on trial because of you and you're going to take some responsibility.


It's a FREE power boost? I really, really doubt it. We just can't see the price right now.
 
[X] Stop him.
-[X] Demand to go with him. He's on trial because of you and you're going to take some responsibility.
--[X] Try and argue to Cervitou that if he performs the ritual, he won't have to keep getting you out of trouble.
---[X] If that also fails, say that you'll owe him a favor.
 
Omake: The Visit
The Visit

A black haired girl is meditating on the wooden floor, willing her mana to move fluently in her body, gathering it in her hand, manipulating it to form a bright ball of light, she manipulates it to her will, shaping it into a spear-like form and then willing the energy to move into other shapes, until she is interrupted.

KNOCK! KNOCK!

Bright blue eyes opened and fixed themselves at the sole door in the room.

"Elder Sister? Can I enter your room?"

"You may" replied the black-haired irritatingly.

"Um- uh..." The younger girl shift nervously under the glare of her older sister, no one interrupts her during her sessions after all unless it was their Father or an important matter.
Fortunately for the younger girl, it is the latter.

Sighing at her sister's antics "Speak, What is the matter?"

"Ah! Yes ! Uh... Father said to prepare yourself for a visit to the Baragar Household!" replied the younger sister.

The black haired girl merely rose an eyebrow.

"What caused Father to declare that suddenly?" replied the elder sister now a little bit more interested, The Baragar Family is quite a famous name in these lands after all and Father himself wished many times to get acquainted with them but did not find any opportunities. To say the elder sister was curious would be an understatement but as a proper lady from a famous mage house, she needs to keep her composure.

"Well, the Eldest Child of the Baragar Family just killed a Greater Dragon alone and Father want to use that as a way to get acquainted with them and possibly for you to-"

"To what?! I already told Father, I will choose the man of my life, it doesn't matter if he killed a Greater Dragon or not" scoffed the elder sister already forgetting her lady manners and start losing herself to her anger.

"*cough* She is actually a girl and the same age as you Elder Sister, he wished for you to befriend her... He says that it will help him create a permanent relationship between our families" replied timidly the younger black haired sister.

"Oh... I'm sorry for my outburst... When are we leaving?" The eldest trying to blatantly change the topic not that her naive little sister noticed.

"Oh uh- As soon as possible! Father said that we are not the only one trying to get on the good side of the Baragar Family." replied the still nervous Sister.

"Good, come with me, I will choose for you a proper dress for our visit to the Baragar Household, it will be an insult to our name if we shamed ourselves in front of one of the most influential families of this land" replied elegantly the elder sister, quickly dragging her sister by her arm.

"Eh ?! Wh- Wha- Sister !" replied the flustered girl, not having any chance from the start to escape from her fate as a dress doll for the next few hours.

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So here is a short omake, I did it because when I think about Tavish(Shirou-expy), I can't help but think about Rin and the recent events certainly help to give me an idea to introduce her to the story.
If it wasn't obvious this is a Rin-
expy with a Sakura-expy, completely different from that Marinus guy's sister, a more shy girl overshadowed by the exploits of her sister but don't worry Rin-expy still care for her as a tsundere should *smirk*.
 
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You misunderstood i agree with him saying we should take down our pride a notch(we didn't thank Beronica and him for their help) but I think that he is overreacting over the fact that we shouldn't claim that we alone killed the Dragon, because it is true we alone killed him.

Actually we have help from at least two other people, as Beronica gave us the poison we used to kill Pyndwyn and Leona gave us the reputation needed to scare Pyndwyn into not fighting us while the poison took its effect. We also needed Cervitou's help to survive the demon attack.

So no, it is not true that we succeeded alone.
 
Actually we have help from at least two other people, as Beronica gave us the poison we used to kill Pyndwyn and Leona gave us the reputation needed to scare Pyndwyn into not fighting us while the poison took its effect. We also needed Cervitou's help to survive the demon attack.

So no, it is not true that we succeeded alone.
We used it, we did have help but in the end, it was us.And with the verb "use" it means it was merely a tool/weapon as is our weapon Excalibur their is no difference, technically Excalibur is our mother's sword after all so what of her reputation. Was their someone else with us in its lair? No, using underhanded tactics and not a front assault doesn't mean that we did not kill it alone.
 
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We used it, we did have help but in the end, it was us.And with the verb "use" it means it was merely a tool/weapon as is our weapon Excalibur their is no difference, technically Excalibur is our mother's sword after all so what of her reputation. Was their someone else with us in its lair? No, using underhanded tactics and not front assault doesn't mean that we did not kill it alone.

You don't seem to be getting the point. You say this:
Which is what Cervitou is getting annoyed at Artoria about because Artoria isn't acknowledging that and claiming all of the glory for herself.
 
We kinda don't? I mean, invulnerability is nifty, it's right up there with immortality and eternal youth, but it's not like we NEED it. Our folks have been fine without it, as were their folks, and it's not because they didn't have the opportunity to enhance themselves with black magic.

Well, honestly, I have to kinda disagree. Right now, we're pretty underpowered for the challenges we have to face (demons, people out to kidnap us to get to our mom, etc.) and that ritual would go a long way into helping set up our power base.
 
Well, honestly, I have to kinda disagree. Right now, we're pretty underpowered for the challenges we have to face (demons, people out to kidnap us to get to our mom, etc.) and that ritual would go a long way into helping set up our power base.

We're only relatively underpowered because our character is a thirteen year old girl and even that is relative as the threats which should be more powerful than us and for a thirteen year old girl, Artoria is definitely overpowered.

@Oshha What do you think of the omake? since you are the sole user still in the thread.

Taking a look at it. Missed it the first time around.
 
We're only relatively underpowered because our character is a thirteen year old girl and even that is relative as the threats which should be more powerful than us and for a thirteen year old girl, Artoria is definitely overpowered.

Yeah, we're thirteen, and we just killed a Greater Dragon. This is gonna cause a lot of enemies, such as people who would want to kill us before we reach our full potential, the demons (including Knights of Hell) who are going to be attracted to us if we ever wander outside of the house, etc.
 
You don't seem to be getting the point. You say this:

Which is what Cervitou is getting annoyed at Artoria about because Artoria isn't acknowledging that and claiming all of the glory for herself.
Glory for what? Making a poison? As I said earlier who will take the claim of the kill? The assassin or the poison-maker? It doesn't matter if we know the poison-maker personally or not it's the same, as for using our Mother's name unless she herself claims something Cervitou has no right to speak about us using her reputation, we are her daughter after all. And I still agree that losing ourselves in glory will be our downfall and I still acknowledge that they did help us in an indirect way but still they weren't here helping us poison the Dragon.
 
Glory for what? Making a poison? As I said earlier who will take the claim of the kill? The assassin or the poison-maker? It doesn't matter if we know the poison-maker personally or not it's the same, as for using our Mother's name unless she herself claims something Cervitou has no right to speak about us using her reputation, we are her daughter after all. And I still agree that losing ourselves in glory will be our downfall and I still acknowledge that they did help us in an indirect way but still they weren't here helping us poison the Dragon.

I agree with you, and I don't think we should feel bad for doing what we did, but we definitely need to thank both Cervitou and Beronica and do something for them, so that, at the very least, we don't lose two powerful allies.
 
Yeah, we're thirteen, and we just killed a Greater Dragon. This is gonna cause a lot of enemies, such as people who would want to kill us before we reach our full potential, the demons (including Knights of Hell) who are going to be attracted to us if we ever wander outside of the house, etc.

So? Artoria is most certainly not underpowered and is definitely overpowered.

Glory for what? Making a poison? As I said earlier who will take the claim of the kill? The assassin or the poison-maker? It doesn't matter if we know the poison-maker personally or not it's the same, as for using our Mother's name unless she herself claims something Cervitou has no right to speak about us using her reputation, we are her daughter after all. And I still agree that losing ourselves in glory will be our downfall and I still acknowledge that they did help us in an indirect way but still they weren't here helping us poison the Dragon.

That isn't the case as in that scenario, the assassin is falsely claiming to have made the poison or to have not use the poison. As for using our mother reputation, it is her reputation not ours. We used her help, just indirectly and Cervitou has every right to call Artoria out on refusing acknowledge that and claiming full glory for herself.

I agree with you, and I don't think we should feel bad for doing what we did, but we definitely need to thank both Cervitou and Beronica and do something for them, so that, at the very least, we don't lose two powerful allies.

Cervitou isn't claiming that we should feel bad for using help from others, he is calling Artoria out for falsely claiming that the slaying of Pyndwyn was done entirely on her own merits when it wasn't. Like claiming that you found a place entirely on your own when you had to ask someone for directions or claiming that you are self-taught when you actually had a teacher or claiming that you carried something somewhere on your own when there was a second person helping you with the lifting.
 
So? Artoria is most certainly not underpowered and is definitely overpowered.



That isn't the case as in that scenario, the assassin is falsely claiming to have made the poison or to have not use the poison. As for using our mother reputation, it is her reputation not ours. We used her help, just indirectly and Cervitou has every right to call Artoria out on refusing acknowledge that and claiming full glory for herself.



Cervitou isn't claiming that we should feel bad for using help from others, he is calling Artoria out for falsely claiming that the slaying of Pyndwyn was done entirely on her own merits when it wasn't. Like claiming that you found a place entirely on your own when you had to ask someone for directions or claiming that you are self-taught when you actually had a teacher or claiming that you carried something somewhere on your own when there was a second person helping you with the lifting.
Here you are wrong, we didn't claim anything about how we did it just that
"I did this!" you point your thumb at yourself.
What do you want us to say? We did not lie, we really did poison the Dragon. Not Beronica and not even Cervitou
 
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