Or alternatively have Bianca arrange a less traumatic capture than the norm
Libra's Lament, a Magical Girl Quest [Complete]
- Thread starter Naron
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Which will paint us as magical girl sympathizers to the public and make US look fishy.
Its one thing to value her welfare, but spare a thought for how it looks like, the quiet, buillied twins standing up for no reason to help their tormentor
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- St. Petersburg
'No reason'? I think preventing the casualties is reason enough.
It looks like somebody stepping between two sides ready to leap at each other and trying to defuse the situation. I don't know how not succumbing to the panic paints us as a sympathizer of anything.
I don't know what you are arguing against anymore, it seems like you hold a specific series of events in mind when I am talking end goals.
It looks like somebody stepping between two sides ready to leap at each other and trying to defuse the situation. I don't know how not succumbing to the panic paints us as a sympathizer of anything.
I don't know what you are arguing against anymore, it seems like you hold a specific series of events in mind when I am talking end goals.
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Considering magical girls are the next thing to a terrorist IC
Uncharacteristically stepping up like that does not look at all good for someone in the age band to be one
- Location
- St. Petersburg
We've been over this.
The fact that we are the only one here that may have something to offer the girl courtesy to a family member makes us an exception. Anyone else stepping up would be uncharacteristical because it would be pointless. If we step up it's because it may change something.
Would our actions differ if we weren't magical girls ourselves? If so, how? If not, then what is the point you are trying to make?
I notice that you are implying that I am overly concerned over Anastasia's well-being, when I explicitly mentioned that I don't value her over, say, Elisa or a lot of our other classmates just because she happens to be in circumstances similar to ours. This is as much for their sake as it is for hers.
The fact that we are the only one here that may have something to offer the girl courtesy to a family member makes us an exception. Anyone else stepping up would be uncharacteristical because it would be pointless. If we step up it's because it may change something.
Would our actions differ if we weren't magical girls ourselves? If so, how? If not, then what is the point you are trying to make?
I notice that you are implying that I am overly concerned over Anastasia's well-being, when I explicitly mentioned that I don't value her over, say, Elisa or a lot of our other classmates just because she happens to be in circumstances similar to ours. This is as much for their sake as it is for hers.
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- behind you
Your 2. possibility has another problem. Right now we are in the middle of the class. Getting her out/away without that someone suspect us or anything of that is nearly impossible. What do we say if someone asks what we did when we were alone with her? We must help her escape from our town, not just from that building. Therefore we must go with her for a bit. How should we do explain this?
I truly think that the 4. option is the best out of them. Because all we know is that they are brainwashed or something, but no one knows the exact details. Therefore I believe it isnt that cruel (anymore). You know what happens with such things:
If all dont know what truly happens most of them will think it is much more terrifying than it really is. Even if not, our girls wont know it.
Thats why I see it as the best options out of that 4.
Maybe we could bring things up like we still like her and would prefer to be her friends than that she bullies them. I think her issue is jealously that we have a sister and she want someone who likes/love her without bonds too. Maybe she is just lonely, I would work that way. She is in a situation where Anastasie will believe anything that would be pleasant for her. Maybe we can even say she looks cute or something in that way to calm her down.
Naturally if someone after that asks we can still say how scary it was. Then they will most likely praise us of how we handled it.
I dont think that we are this tanky yet. But it is a skill that maybe worth it in the not so far future. I still would go:
- Rico HP
- Rico´s dmg-spell
- Hp and resilience a bit more up
- Eva´s Heal-spell
- then shining protector
- Melee-weapons, the upgrades for Rico´s dmg-spell
That would be my plan for leveling up right know.
It IS a loss. because we cant stay and will always have the military behind us (not in a really good way). If that wouldnt be a bad thing, our hiding until know would be pointless. Think again about this and then say why it isnt a loss.
I explained it above. and others did too. If Anastasia is running amok, there is a really high chance people will die and/or we will be attacked with them. The military knows that as well. If we call our big sister we will be seen that we did a good job. They would most certainly scold us for doing such a "reckless" thing, but they will praise our judgement the same time. If someone questions that, our sister can easily say it runs within the family. The military knows our sister and how she reached her position. It is even possible that they think we will be just like her.
Therefore there isnt a problem with that.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
It is possible, just needs work. You could blame it on her ('she dragged me away by force before I could talk her down'). You could say that you tried to convince her to surrender, but failed and she went her own way.
Hide her in the city, then arrange her escape. It is still better than her and the military coming to blows.
I am not advocating for the option, but I think the knee-jerk reaction to knigget's idea was perhaps unwarranted. It's workable.
We don't even know that. For all we know, they are serving willingly knowing what the alternative is (death or exile), or are wearing collar bombs. We are in the dark here.
If we aren't killed (which I find unlikely if we don't give them a reason), it is no more a loss than running away after being discovered. Not every bad thing is a loss.
Assuming we talking the 'loss' as in 'losing the game' and not just a mere 'drawback'.
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DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
Alright, I'll build an EXP Plan for you that takes care of the top three of your desires. Feel free to change however you see fit.
[] EXP Plan: Offense and Defense
-[] Solar Blessing (100)
-[] Scorching Sunlight Level 5 (70)
-[] Protective Silhouette Level 4 (60)
-[] Lunar Blessing Level 3 (30)
-[] Solar Blessing Level 3 (30)
-[] Shell of Light level 3 (30)
You like it?
- Location
- behind you
I just wrote how I see it. Besides that: If she hides within the City it will be full of military. Therefore sneeking around to help her escape later is far too risky. That route is only possible with a really big amount of luck. The other is how we escaped from her if she took us as a hostage. Even when we esplain it somehow, our mother or even the military will be by our side all the time after that. How do you think we can sneak away from that? (not offensive meant just a question, before it is misunderstood)
That is what I meant. We dont know anything, therefore why should we assume that as a really bad idea?
After we are discovered we must be run away. If we dont do it our big sister will do something so that we can escape or something like that.
That is how I see this. I doubt that Naron wants us to stay with the military and work for them. He will find ways to throw us out into the world. XD
- Location
- behind you
That is perfect. Thanks for that. Because I think that gives us enough defense to survive the early stages and we arent helpless if it comes to dmg. After that i think there is much more room of what we can do/level up.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
I wouldn't mind working with the military.
Ya know, so long as we don't have a gun ready to fire at our heads constantly.
Note that Scorching Sunshine doubles in damage every level up. Just letting you know.
ConfusedPotato
Unverified Verifier
- Location
- Australia
[X] Eva: Talk to her. Soothing, calm tones.
-[X] Topics: Why she bullied us, our sister and how she doesn't hate magical girls, why she's hurting
-[X] If she asks why we're helping it's because she's hurting and we want to help and because no one should have to run and hide in fear
-[X] Try to get to how our sister does not hate magical girls before Rico calls her and how she's the best way we have to help Ana.
[X] Rico: Keep the rest of the class calm. Use our best "Commander" mode big sister voice.
-[X] "Alright! Now, no one is going to panic. Because if you panic, she panics. And no one here wants that. So, you're all going to keep quiet and slowly walk out of the room without so much as looking at her."
-[X] Call Big Sis after and explain what happened. Including how this is probably her first transformation from how it looked/when it happened.
-[X] Topics: Why she bullied us, our sister and how she doesn't hate magical girls, why she's hurting
-[X] If she asks why we're helping it's because she's hurting and we want to help and because no one should have to run and hide in fear
-[X] Try to get to how our sister does not hate magical girls before Rico calls her and how she's the best way we have to help Ana.
[X] Rico: Keep the rest of the class calm. Use our best "Commander" mode big sister voice.
-[X] "Alright! Now, no one is going to panic. Because if you panic, she panics. And no one here wants that. So, you're all going to keep quiet and slowly walk out of the room without so much as looking at her."
-[X] Call Big Sis after and explain what happened. Including how this is probably her first transformation from how it looked/when it happened.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
First off, why do we need to sneak away? I mean, as a player, you want to get EXP and levels, but what is in it for the girls? Normally a period of time that we can't take plot-relevant actions in would be handled through a timeskip. That's just musings, not the real question.
The real question is... wat. After hostages are freed and the situation deescalates, they go home and the state largely forgets they exist. They don't get personal guards assigned to them if they aren't at risk of a repeat attack. What would be the purpose? Why would they be at more danger than any other random civilian who could have been there in their place? I can't make sense of what you are implying would be the problem here.
Our mom would definitely pay more attention to us, but we can work with our mom, and half the thread was considering coming out of the closet anyway.
Because if it were a good idea to surrender, we'd likely know at least something? Surely people would prefer magical girls coming with them quietly and without resistance, and keeping their fate secret is not very conducive to that.
Though you give it a different rationalization, you are not too eager to try that solution for yourself, are you?
I would not guess what a QM would or would not want us to do. With the world gradually coming under supernatural attacks we'll likely find our hands full either way.
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- Location
- behind you
Our big sister ist the MoD. She will be worried and sometimes the military is questioning them. But what I meant was the hiding part of that idea. Hiding within the city would nothing more than delay the outcome. The military will search the town and we cant go help her without blowing our cover. That is what I wanted to say.
Naturally all of this solution has risks. But I still think it is the best option, with the fewest risk for us.
Besides that I know Naron for many years now. Heck he is my best friend and i speak with him every day. I can say it isnt what he had planned and therefore I wrote this. But I can also say if we really try that or want it, he will find a way for it.
I am eager to see how he will handle this. XD
Except killing us with the most terrifying monsters out there.
DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
I think the safest option for us would be running. Aka veekie's plan. The safest, and best plan for the twin's kinder nature, is talking them all down.Our big sister ist the MoD. She will be worried and sometimes the military is questioning them. But what I meant was the hiding part of that idea. Hiding within the city would nothing more than delay the outcome. The military will search the town and we cant go help her without blowing our cover. That is what I wanted to say.
Naturally all of this solution has risks. But I still think it is the best option, with the fewest risk for us.
Besides that I know Naron for many years now. Heck he is my best friend and i speak with him every day. I can say it isnt what he had planned and therefore I wrote this. But I can also say if we really try that or want it, he will find a way for it.
I am eager to see how he will handle this. XD
Except killing us with the most terrifying monsters out there.
I think the latter would have a better end result if successful.
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Would probably make more sense to count in blocks.
I have one question to @ShadowAngelBeta, or anyone supporting his plan.
I have one question to @ShadowAngelBeta, or anyone supporting his plan.
I can not see in what way it could be a good idea to focus her attention on that, or how to even approach the subject at a time that she thinks everyone her enemy. I don't know if it can be justified even if it is connected to the reasons of her transformation. The result is the issue, not the reasons, and it is hardly the right time to establish them now. There may be something I do not understand about this bit, so I'd like it if anyone could tell me just what they envision us saying on that particular topic.
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- Location
- Earth
Right, right. I actually want to count them that way, but most of the votes are not in a proper plan-format. Could those that have voted please check their votes and reformat them if necessary?
For reference:
[]Plan XYZ
-[] Point 1
-[] Point 2
-[] Point ...
- Location
- St. Petersburg
Eh? Here's what I'm seeing after counting by block.
- [ ] Run for it. You've never gotten along well with her, and she's unlikely to trust anything you say. Get out of the way before everyone else panics and head to the staff room to call home with. Big sis will know what to do.
-[ ] If you can't get to a phone, then just run out of school and head home. If you're forced to transform to save yourself from something she does, it'd not go well for you, so stick to bushes and places with cover. Use your size to your advantage.
Number of voters: 3
veekie, DarkKing98, wingstrike96 - [ ] Eva: Talk to her. Soothing, calm tones.
-[ ] Topics: Why she bullied us, our sister and how she doesn't hate magical girls, why she's hurting
-[ ] If she asks why we're helping it's because she's hurting and we want to help and because no one should have to run and hide in fear
-[ ] Try to get to how our sister does not hate magical girls before Rico calls her and how she's the best way we have to help Ana.
[ ] Rico: Keep the rest of the class calm. Use our best "Commander" mode big sister voice.
-[ ] "Alright! Now, no one is going to panic. Because if you panic, she panics. And no onehere wants that. So, you're all going to keep quiet and slowly walk out of the room without so much as looking at her."
-[ ] Call Big Sis after and explain what happened. Including how this is probably her first transformation from how it looked/when it happened.
Number of voters: 3
ShadowAngelBeta, ConfusedPotato, kinigget - [ ] EXP Plan: Melee and Heals
-[ ] Level up Rico's Sunlight Scepter to Level 5 (100 EXP)
-[ ] Buy Solar Blessing (100 EXP)
-[ ] Upgrade Soothing Moonlight to Level 5 (100 EXP)
Number of voters: 3
veekie, DarkKing98, wingstrike96 - [ ] EXP Plan: Offense and Defense
-[ ] Solar Blessing (100)
-[ ] Scorching Sunlight Level 5 (70)
-[ ] Protective Silhouette Level 4 (60)
-[ ] Lunar Blessing Level 3 (30)
-[ ] Solar Blessing Level 3 (30)
-[ ] Shell of Light level 3 (30)
Number of voters: 1
kinigget
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DarkKing98
Certified Village Idiot
- Location
- USA
@ShadowAngelBeta @ConfusedPotato
Unless you are fine with Melee and Heals winning, you may want to vote for an EXP plan.
Unless you are fine with Melee and Heals winning, you may want to vote for an EXP plan.
- Location
- Earth
Hm... SV counts SAB's vote in two blocks, one for Rico and one for Eva.
- Location
- behind you
[X] Eva: Talk to her. Soothing, calm tones.
-[X] Topics: We just want to be her friends, our sister and how she doesn't hate magical girls, why she's hurting
-[X] If she asks why we're helping it's because she's hurting and we want to help and because no one should have to run and hide in fear
-[X] Try to get to how our sister does not hate magical girls before Rico calls her and how she's the best way we have to help Ana.
[X] Rico: Keep the rest of the class calm. Use our best "Commander" mode big sister voice.
-[X] "Alright! Now, no one is going to panic. Because if you panic, she panics. And no one here wants that. So, you're all going to keep quiet and slowly walk out of the room without so much as looking at her."
-[X] Call Big Sis after and explain what happened. Including how this is probably her first transformation from how it looked/when it happened.
[X] EXP Plan: Offense and Defense
-[X] Solar Blessing (100)
-[X] Scorching Sunlight Level 5 (70)
-[X] Protective Silhouette Level 4 (60)
-[X] Lunar Blessing Level 3 (30)
-[X] Solar Blessing Level 3 (30)
-[X] Shell of Light level 3 (30)
-[X] Topics: We just want to be her friends, our sister and how she doesn't hate magical girls, why she's hurting
-[X] If she asks why we're helping it's because she's hurting and we want to help and because no one should have to run and hide in fear
-[X] Try to get to how our sister does not hate magical girls before Rico calls her and how she's the best way we have to help Ana.
[X] Rico: Keep the rest of the class calm. Use our best "Commander" mode big sister voice.
-[X] "Alright! Now, no one is going to panic. Because if you panic, she panics. And no one here wants that. So, you're all going to keep quiet and slowly walk out of the room without so much as looking at her."
-[X] Call Big Sis after and explain what happened. Including how this is probably her first transformation from how it looked/when it happened.
[X] EXP Plan: Offense and Defense
-[X] Solar Blessing (100)
-[X] Scorching Sunlight Level 5 (70)
-[X] Protective Silhouette Level 4 (60)
-[X] Lunar Blessing Level 3 (30)
-[X] Solar Blessing Level 3 (30)
-[X] Shell of Light level 3 (30)
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Why she bullies us is very likely connected to the issue of why she's hurting. So it'll probably come up anyway. The other reason is... it's the only thing that connects the twins and her. And that is important. When you're talking to someone like this you want to establish a connection between yourself and them.
It's an attempt to understand and clear the air between them.
"We want to be friends" is... not false, but she won't believe it. Mine jumps on the issue to soon, but I couldn't think of a better opening/way to establish a connection. Saying we want to be friends... There's a high chance she'll reject the statement and thus widen the gulf instead of shorten it. You're better off opening with some variation of "We just want to help."
It's an attempt to understand and clear the air between them.
"We want to be friends" is... not false, but she won't believe it. Mine jumps on the issue to soon, but I couldn't think of a better opening/way to establish a connection. Saying we want to be friends... There's a high chance she'll reject the statement and thus widen the gulf instead of shorten it. You're better off opening with some variation of "We just want to help."