Timerider
That guy who really should get out more.
- Location
- The End of the World.
Path to recruiting Arceus.
Harry Potter and the Skittering Spouse
- Thread starter Fencer
- Start date
- Crossover Fantasy Superhero
Death_Sheep
Cat Owned
- Location
- Wisconsin
- Pronouns
- He/Him
That's bordering on "Everybody out of the Universe!" levels of overkill, from what I understand about Pokemon.
Ariamaki
Judge of Scales
- Location
- Land of Breath and Balance
- Pronouns
- He/They
((Chapter update itself))
DANNY!!!!!! I am so glad to see my man, precious overworked idiot father of all time. It's a huge relief for any iteration of Taylor to actually be able to find her way into talking to him about something serious before it's far too late, so this brought a very serious smile to my face.
I will admit I'd pay good money to see Lisa and Spike both just kinda slackjawed Beholding whatever the rest of the Equestria crew is up to on any given Sunday. Probably with Aisha involved, if only because I can see her getting along way too well with some of the more disruptive ponyos.
Meanwhile Bitch with any given dog Pokemon is already an S-Class consideration, but given the impending release of Z+A I am picturing her running around on a Zygarde 10% Forme, and it's pretty great. :3
DANNY!!!!!! I am so glad to see my man, precious overworked idiot father of all time. It's a huge relief for any iteration of Taylor to actually be able to find her way into talking to him about something serious before it's far too late, so this brought a very serious smile to my face.
I will admit I'd pay good money to see Lisa and Spike both just kinda slackjawed Beholding whatever the rest of the Equestria crew is up to on any given Sunday. Probably with Aisha involved, if only because I can see her getting along way too well with some of the more disruptive ponyos.
Meanwhile Bitch with any given dog Pokemon is already an S-Class consideration, but given the impending release of Z+A I am picturing her running around on a Zygarde 10% Forme, and it's pretty great. :3
I don't mind if you do a crossover or not, but i like it better if she was just staring into the mirror of desire that whole time and not actually talking to another world.
Since the mirror is in the castle and able to be called into the room. And it doesn't imbalance the setting.
I'd want them to work out how to use the veil of death to travel between worlds. When it is time for that.
Since the mirror is in the castle and able to be called into the room. And it doesn't imbalance the setting.
I'd want them to work out how to use the veil of death to travel between worlds. When it is time for that.
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- Location
- England
They probably do compliment each other, but maybe you meant complement?
Ah, this would be wonderful if it were to happen.
This definitely needs to happen! The conversation with Luna was also a good way to reconfirm what a solid base the Accidental Marriage trope can provide when played straight.
Hmm, this I personally think probably shouldn't happen. Entirely your story obviously but multi-cross-overs have a way of making stories jump the shark or otherwise devolving into chaos. Arguably the two main strengths of this (part of the) story are the relationship dynamics and the introduction of a Voice of Reason to the insanity that is HP canon. I get the sense that "part two" if you will of the story will be post-lich in the form of a hopefully triumphant return to Earth Bet, ideally with Taylor/Harry established. And shovel talk with Danny of course. Dealing with additional universes would leave you with a ton of plot threads to have to write, hint at or possibly leave dangling.
Either way I'm curious to see how you develop this further, especially if you want to feature the Undersiders. I suspect it would indeed be good to create at least a basic outline of how you want to story to go. While I actually think we'd still get an amazing story if you just continue to apply Common Sense directly to the
Oh, and not sure if I mentioned it before but as much as you seem to dislike writing Taylor's dialogues with Dumbledore, they continue to be highlights for me. 😉
- Location
- En Route to the ICU
Easy explanation: The Room can't contact the Undersiders because Taylor doesn't know where they are. She's aware that they aren't on Earth Bet, Contessa told her so, but she doesn't know where they are.
Danny is on Earth Bet, where Taylor is from, so the Room can find the right dimension through her, but the Undersiders... basically, it'd be like trying to call their phones without their phone numbers.
I'm now picturing Lisa and Spike doing the Patrick Star meme.
Seconded! I'd love to see Danny torn between giving a shovel speech and asking Harry to protect his little girl... and Harry is trying to mentally reconcile that request with what he's seen of Taylor.
- Location
- Elsewhere
"I'm Lisa. I'm psychic."
"I'm Applejack." [Truth]. "I am the bearer of the Element of Honesty." [Truth]
"…wow, that's a novel way to render my power useless."
- Location
- California
Christmas approaches, and I wonder what sort of gifts/traps will be sent to Taylor in the mail! Why, I think she might have more fun disarming the dangers than some of the gifts from people she doesn't know
- Location
- America
now thinking of various series to throw the undersiders into....pokemon would definitely be Rachal's thing, give her plenty of dog pokemon and she'll become quite the powerhouse. The Laborn siblings excel in stealth builds, so you'd have to figure out what settings they're sets would work wonders in. For Lisa...throw into an Elder scrolls game and have her come out a mage.
someone already mentionned it, but same : I think the no is a typo
terrifying ? She has not yet formed her paraspider (parachutist spider) airdropped by wasp, nor the capsaïcine boosted hornets, the rain of glue thread... or much later the roach powered tinker-knife swing.
canon Taylor was creative.
about the mirror, a possible explanation, pretty in line with canon HP, but rather sad, is that it was not danny. It was instead an effect like the stone of resurrection or the mirror of desire : a personality reconstructed with the person expectation and mixed with a hidden secondary objective.
FictionPack
Monochromatic Ursine
- Location
- Tennessee
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I'm in favor of more crossovers, even if they just end up as cameos.
Personally I like the idea that Contessa dropped each Undersider in a world that they can 'fix'. Like what Taylor is doing in HP.
Plus I'd really love to see Tattletale or Imp in Metal Gear 😆
Maybe Grue can stop the Dead Space Marker signals and completely wreck the Necromorphs? Stuff like that. Though noone deserves to be sent to that world.
Whelp harry lost. Not even trying to deny happy Taylor wasn't cute to him.
- Location
- Earth (unverified)
It's probably best not to allow the mirror to communicate with other potential crossover worlds, and limiting it to Danny would keep it simple (and the blood tie limitation is a great excuse). Every crossover increases Author workload exponentially as you have to account for all the possible interactions between the local technology/magic to keep it consistent. While I have faith that you would do a good job stopping it from becoming a mess, but I'm much more worried that you would have to put so much effort into keeping the quality high that you would burn out and the story would die.
Also, if you keep the fate of the other Undersiders ambiguous you can leave the option open to write more crossover stories later if you want to without setting expectations too high if your Muse won't cooperate.
I'll keep reading regardless. You write some some top-quality fiction and I'm sure I'll enjoy whatever you come up with.
- Location
- Here
The more limitations the better, I think. It's already a tenuous choice to include because it opens up a gap that you'll theoretically need Contessa to have prepared for given the opening of the story, while "oh she can't perceive it" is cowardly writing.
I say that if Taylor wants back into Earth Bet, she (and Harry) should have to earn it.
Because it betrays the story premise, introduces a ton of setting interaction questions that will dilute the current setup, and, given Worm fandom trends, will spawn a constant barrage of aggravating vs debates as well as people not-so-subtly trying to nudge the story into a completely juvenile stompfic. Multicrossovers are better handled when they're prepared for from the outset, not tossed in late.
Drilling down to specifics and ignoring the powerset combo arguments, I think another huge consideration is tone and ethos. Pokemon can be dark if you want it to be (don't look at fanfiction, look at the end of Scarlet/Violet!) but it's fundamentally about partnership, exploration, and overcoming adversity—most of which don't really match well with any kind of grounded Worm story. It's certainly more usable than MLP, however.
MLP features talking cartoon horses and is tonally and aesthetically aimed at preteens. I'm not going to insult it or its fans, I'm not claiming it cannot have depth, and I enjoy media aimed at kids too, but I think it's extraordinarily obvious that it only really "works" with Worm if you're writing a lighthearted story or otherwise killing important parts of what it is.
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Windborne
Devourer of Stories
- Location
- Oregon
Fun chapter as always @Fencer. Kinda torn on the call to Danny, on the one hand magic, on the other Taylor really ought to be unsure if that's actually Danny and not some illusion ala the Mirror of Erised. Granted even if it's just some illusion it's a good way for her to get closure so her deluding herself into thinking it's really him would be ok in my eyes.
As for crossover elements I'd give it a pass or it just being something that's mentioned in passing. Also I don't know if Taylor ought to ever return to Bet. Contessa never promised to return her, only that she'd get to reunite with her friends again after all was said and done. Noticeably Danny wasn't included in that promise so realistically you could just decide to keep him out of the plot for the most part by keeping Danny on Bet permanently. I can see Contessa being such a petty bitch to deny Taylor ever reuniting with her dad.
Plus I've had this concept of part of a potential ending scenario for this Fic for a couple years now, one that could neatly avoid Earth Bet being anything but a footnote and you might enjoy it. Plus it'd set an overall happy ending while giving certain characters proper outcomes. I won't go into detail outside of a PM in case you are interested, but it involves Tonks getting a suiting punishment for fucking up in Vegas and getting Taylor and Harry married in such a way that even Taylor would admit was enough to earn her sympathy, and to stop treating her like an obstacle to be plowed through with sheer stubbornness as is her usual want.
As for crossover elements I'd give it a pass or it just being something that's mentioned in passing. Also I don't know if Taylor ought to ever return to Bet. Contessa never promised to return her, only that she'd get to reunite with her friends again after all was said and done. Noticeably Danny wasn't included in that promise so realistically you could just decide to keep him out of the plot for the most part by keeping Danny on Bet permanently. I can see Contessa being such a petty bitch to deny Taylor ever reuniting with her dad.
Plus I've had this concept of part of a potential ending scenario for this Fic for a couple years now, one that could neatly avoid Earth Bet being anything but a footnote and you might enjoy it. Plus it'd set an overall happy ending while giving certain characters proper outcomes. I won't go into detail outside of a PM in case you are interested, but it involves Tonks getting a suiting punishment for fucking up in Vegas and getting Taylor and Harry married in such a way that even Taylor would admit was enough to earn her sympathy, and to stop treating her like an obstacle to be plowed through with sheer stubbornness as is her usual want.
- Location
- france
- Pronouns
- He
Fixed that for you.
Imagine, Bitch with an Arcanine, a Lycanrock, Houndstone, Manetric, Stoutland, and Granbull. The possibilities! Instant pseudo-alpha or pseudo-mega status for all of them. It would be glorious.
- Pronouns
- he/him/his
I think that if you decide Taylor can contact the Undersiders through the Room (or otherwise, for that matter) and if you decide to multicross their locations, then whatever powers or mechanics are present in those universes should not be relevant until the return to Earth Bet. Multicross or not, let the Undersiders' experiences remain at the level of interesting stories they can tell and an Easter egg for the audience. Assuming Taylor can make contact at all.
On returning to Earth Bet all bets are off. I, personally, would take almost any help I could get for dealing with that terminal reality infection. Plus at that point you're nearing the epilogue so you don't have to worry about the power interactions much.
On returning to Earth Bet all bets are off. I, personally, would take almost any help I could get for dealing with that terminal reality infection. Plus at that point you're nearing the epilogue so you don't have to worry about the power interactions much.
- Location
- Sector 2814
A workaround could be the mirror not actually being what it seems. Cross-dimensional travel or communications isn't something we saw in canon HP, but we did see three other types of magic mirrors: first, the two-way mirror used for communication, second, the talking mirrors that gave fashion advice, and third, the mirror of erised, that showed one's desires.
Something like experiments to make a safer version of the mirror of erised, or a more intelligent version of those talking mirrors (more akin to magical portrait-level intelligence), or even replicating legends of the resurrection stone, could lead to a mirror, with a cutoff timer as a safety mechanism, that would let someone talk to an image of their lost friends or family, based on the viewer's memories of the person. That would fit what Taylor experienced, including the room providing an answer to "I want to be able to talk to my father." That could even let her talk to the Undersiders without breaking any "rules" of the respective universes, because it's not really them.
And of course, an eventual realization that it wasn't ever real could be a good gut punch, if you're going for that sort of thing.
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Epsilon Rose
The King of Unrest
Is there any reason she can't give the acromantuals
I'm still rooting for Lisa ending up in Paradigm City.
Alternatively, since she can't help her favorite (potentially) suicidal teen dealing with high-school drama, why not give her
You even get a choice with this one: You can have her replace Utena and try to act like a smug knight or have her try to help both of the problematic female leads of canon. Either way, watching her deal with the insanity of Ohtori Academy would be fun.
Aside from personally liking these settings more than MLP, I'd also recommend them because both Bigs and the (intentionally vague) "power to revolutionize the world" open up a lot of potential for hijinks and messing with the status quo, without fundamentally overriding it the same way that major powers in MLP can.
The big constraint I'd see is limiting how much the shards can interact and perceive across the dimensional boundaries.
This whole thing seemed like something of a hail marry on Contessa's part, sending a handful of highly effective agents outside the normal dimensional neighborhood, for both parahumans and shards, in the hopes they'd find something new and unexpected. To that end, it would make sense if the shards themselves can't easily gross the divide, so Lisa and Dina's shards can't get a full read on the HP word. The only information they have is what their hosts can physically see through Taylor's magic mirror and the information she can give them, which severely limits their ability to make accurate predictions or inferences, especially because they have zero, or possibly contradictory, information on actual magic and how it functions. The nice thing about this limitation is that it lets you have fairly easy contact, so you can show off their hijinks whenever you feel like it, while also limiting their ability to completely derail or trivialize the story.
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I wonder if you couldn't take a little time skip here, if you want to gloss over boring basically-canon stuff. Skip a month or two, with a summary of what went down through Taylor's inner thoughts, and it might be fine.
Lisa could become the Faller and go through PL:A to capture him.
- Location
- New England
I was NOT expeccting Danny there. Like, I'm not opposed to it, but I really wasn't expecting more Earth Bet stuff, or multiverse stuff in general actually, until the final arc. Maybe I'm just playing to the stereotype of fics I've read, but that seemed to be the pattern.
There's a LOT of crazy shit that can happen when you cross whole settings rather than just one individual, so I'm content with just Danny via blood magic or whatever for the moment. Or it being the mirror of desire, as mentioned above.
Either way, HOORAY FOR UPDATE!!
There's a LOT of crazy shit that can happen when you cross whole settings rather than just one individual, so I'm content with just Danny via blood magic or whatever for the moment. Or it being the mirror of desire, as mentioned above.
Either way, HOORAY FOR UPDATE!!
Fencer
Writer
- Location
- 2nd shift
- Pronouns
- He/Him
K so. On the magic mirror not actual contacting Danny. Nope not doing that kind of mind fuckery right now. Sure HP canon doesn't have precedent for something like this. Don't care, I did it anyway. There are serious limitations. Like calling home once a month or less and only being able to talk briefly.
On contacting the Undersiders I am still undecided. And given everything they might not be too happy to hear from her either so again… punting that decision down the road for another day.
On crossover elements besides HP. Many of you have valid concerns about that. Trust me, I share those concerns. Something being cool and shiny does not necessarily make it good for the story. Learned that lesson the hard way when Flames crashed and burned as I kept pushing the power creep. If the Undersiders end up somewhere interesting it will only ever be a footnote in this fic and I have major reservations about the idea even with that fact in mind.
On contacting the Undersiders I am still undecided. And given everything they might not be too happy to hear from her either so again… punting that decision down the road for another day.
On crossover elements besides HP. Many of you have valid concerns about that. Trust me, I share those concerns. Something being cool and shiny does not necessarily make it good for the story. Learned that lesson the hard way when Flames crashed and burned as I kept pushing the power creep. If the Undersiders end up somewhere interesting it will only ever be a footnote in this fic and I have major reservations about the idea even with that fact in mind.
Fucking good. Rowena Ravenclaw is pretty universally depicted as and considered to be a genius. It wouldn't surprise me if she found a way to transmit information across timelines/dimensions but, having no immediate application for it since living things couldn't cross it, wrote it off as a curiosity and shelved the project, not looking at it again until she passed. And I think it would make the story so much worse if you pulled out that rug from under Taylor's feet.
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