10 individual upgrades or ten more points?
Though yeah Biodata is still a thing. The tournament should help with that though.
I think you've mistaken NEO for Metal Overlord. How are we going to scan Chao though?
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10 individual upgrades or ten more points?
Though yeah Biodata is still a thing. The tournament should help with that though.
I think you've mistaken NEO for Metal Overlord. How are we going to scan Chao though?
I'm not. Metal Overlord requires Sonics, Shadows, and Chaos's DNA. in Heroes he had a bunch of extra but he needs those 3 at the minimum. the first time he got Chaos DNA by scanning Creams Chao, the second time (the one in IDW) he got it directly from the Master Emerald.
and the QM's have told us that getting Chaos's DNA would send him straight into Neo. the Chaos Emeralds have never had anything to do with Neo I don't know why Differ said that.
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By fighting it with Metal. Which will make Cream, Vanilla, and their allies declare war against us, and piss off anyone who does not like the idea of us essentially kicking a puppy.
Eh? Chaos just goes straight to NEO?!
That's...very good to know. Though Metal Overlord being harder is understandable.
I'm not sure how to get Chaos' data though.
Without this happening at least.
...Wait a second. What if we get Chao to fight in our Wrestling federation? Not like Clutch, but as some sort of mass team or something?
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I don't! If only because I don't want to wait however long it'd take and keep on neglecting Rusty's upgrades. Plus Egg Boss training. And potentially training the Darcsen.
They are not worthy of Neo.
Hah! Fair enough.
I just really liked the idea of resserecting their greatest enemy and giving them a 'ALL LIVING THING BOW BEFORE YOUR MASTER!'
But yeah we do have other things to do.
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I don't think an ant cares about the difference between a grenade and an ICBM. 
Step 1: Get whatever 'Sonic Disguise' ability Metal would get from beating up Anti-Sonic.
Step 2: Use it to pretend to be Anti-Sonic while beating the ever-loving shit out of Cream.
Step 3: Neo Metal get, and no one knows about our puppy kicking.
I don't think an ant cares about the difference between a grenade and an ICBM.
Well ideally we're going to steal theirs...but true true.
As long as it gets the job done I doubt any of us will have any issues.
Though I am partial to overwhelming force and DAKKA.
Counterpoint, our daughters would be disappointed in us.
I'm sure we can arrange a way to get the data without that...though most plans involve giving Cream and co a...not negative impression of us.
Maybe if Metal trained her in combat or we got her and Chao into the Wrestling federation somehow.
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it would be funny
so, I did mention before the other way Metal should be able to get Chaos biodata. this hasn't been confirmed as something we can do by the QMs (I think) but in cannon he got it from the Master Emerald, which is how he was able to enter the Overlord form.
this is part of why I want to get rid of Knuckles and steal it.
edit: this was supposed to include that it happened in IDW, not sure how that got cut out.
this is part of why I want to get rid of Knuckles and steal it.
edit: this was supposed to include that it happened in IDW, not sure how that got cut out.
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Ok that. That's a good reason to go after the master Emerald. Still not something we should do at the moment considering our...teneous position, but something to consider.
We might want to ensure that the Island doesn't cause a Colony drop if we do do that though.
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We could always take it's picture to put the island in it
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That would require we get Eggman-Nega. Easier to convince Knuckles to help him build houses, and create thrusters for the islands in secret.
I wonder if we could make the houses release sleeping gas so we can deal with Knuckles. He is going to come after us if we take the Master Emerald, might be a good idea to deal with them both at once if we can.
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I don't think we'll be allowed to get Negas camera. that thing is practically an instant win for almost all situations.
Sorry for any possible mistakes, English is not my native language.
Hmm, as far as I remember, SONIC HEROES took Froggy (because he ate part of Chaos in the first Adventure) and Cheese (because Chaos himself was once chao but mutated due to the effects of chaos energy).
So the question arises. Do we need the original Chaos, or will any of its analogues do?
For example, Artificial Chaos. Although there are problems with this too, if they are still on Colony ARK, we can't get to them yet for obvious reasons.
But there was an interesting moment in the Turn 7- JULY 2X RIVALS REPORT.
It looks like the owner of Chao Races has somehow recreated the Chaos, and this opens up two new questions. What happened to this Chaos? And does he have any other or any knowledge on how to recreate them?
I'm writing this because I'm trying to find other ways to find the DNA of Chaos without having to fight the original and the entire island. Because let's be honest, even with a successful operation, we simply are not able to reap its successes in a short time, and the response from those who have ideas about Angel Island will probably not be crushing, but unpleasant.
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I think your misreading it and that the qm's may have accidently pressed the s key while typing that up.
I'll keep that in mind. But I really think that attacking the original Chaos is a bad idea, as long as there are ways to get his DNA in another less problematic way, it's worth considering.
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There is a thing I want to say since we got Starline's loyalty to 100 which lets us study the Warp Topaz without him. Now, people might be thinking "that's great" because Starline's and our Mystic is... quite bad. But, I want us to consider using Starline to study it, despite it not being as likely to succeed. Now, with the dossier almost done, he should be able to study it and increase his Mystic so it shouldn't be quite as hard of a leap for us.
Now, why should we do it? First, it's his project. It is important to him, and it feels kind of wrong to give his most important work to someone else. Now for a more pragmatic reason, I want you to remember that the character we choose will do different things. Even if two different heroes roll the same final number, they can have very different results depending on who they are. Yhana and Piastol are talented mages, but they aren't "smart". Yhana is the smarter one of them with a Brain score of 7, and she is from the Middle Ages. Will she make use of the topaz? Yes, but how useful would it be for Eggman? Starline on the other hand knows science. He can look at the magic, and possibly find a way to reproduce it with tech. Or integrate it into our machines. Or mass produce through mundane means, like how Eggman made those lesser Chaos Emeralds.
If Yhana or Piastol study it? No way will they consider how to integrate it into a machine. If they find out how to reproduce it, it will be from a Mystic standpoint, which will not take advantage of our enourmous Brain stat. What they learn will no doubt be useful, but will they be as useful as Starline's study? Wouldn't Eggman be more capable of making use of research that takes into account both scientific and Mystic perspective, rather than Yhana and Piastol's pure Mystic?
Now, why should we do it? First, it's his project. It is important to him, and it feels kind of wrong to give his most important work to someone else. Now for a more pragmatic reason, I want you to remember that the character we choose will do different things. Even if two different heroes roll the same final number, they can have very different results depending on who they are. Yhana and Piastol are talented mages, but they aren't "smart". Yhana is the smarter one of them with a Brain score of 7, and she is from the Middle Ages. Will she make use of the topaz? Yes, but how useful would it be for Eggman? Starline on the other hand knows science. He can look at the magic, and possibly find a way to reproduce it with tech. Or integrate it into our machines. Or mass produce through mundane means, like how Eggman made those lesser Chaos Emeralds.
If Yhana or Piastol study it? No way will they consider how to integrate it into a machine. If they find out how to reproduce it, it will be from a Mystic standpoint, which will not take advantage of our enourmous Brain stat. What they learn will no doubt be useful, but will they be as useful as Starline's study? Wouldn't Eggman be more capable of making use of research that takes into account both scientific and Mystic perspective, rather than Yhana and Piastol's pure Mystic?
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Can we assign other heroes to Study The Warp Topaz besides Eggman and Starline?
Hmm, I thought the Topaz restriction was lifted for 8 mystic Eggman and only for him, but before that we were limited to only 7 mystic Starline.
In fact, the idea of Study The Warp Topaz is good because:
1. This can make Starline better, which will have a beneficial effect on Adventures, since we benefit from a better teleporter.
2. We can reproduce its effect, which will help if we don't take the Starline for any reason.
However, it is better to postpone this action until better times because:
1. Sa-55, which gives a penalty of -15 to two random national actions for the next 2 turns.
2. Flames the problem has been postponed, but it is still a priority.
3. There is one National Action in mystic and for the above reason it is occupied.
Nevertheless, as I said, the idea is good and can be implemented in the future.
P.S. The following calculations will be derived from my understanding of the mechanics of the quest and may be incorrect, so constructive criticism and dialogue are welcome.
8(Eggman Mystic) + 7(Starline Mystic) + 2(Loyalty) + (+10 from an Omake Reward from Turn 5) = 27
I did not add Yahna's dossier because I do not know how it will work and how many points it will give when it is ready.
I also didn't add +10 to the research based actions Egg Scientists because I didn't know if they could be added to the actions of mystic or not, or if they were allowed to help the project at all.
I also want to note that even with an unsuccessful but close throw, we can still get something, as it was inTurn 6- JUNE 2XXX RESULTS.
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yes, I asked the QMs this earlier and they confirmed we could put other heroes on the action.
Thank you. Well, then the alternative should look something like this.
8(Eggman Mystic) + 28(Yana Mystic) + 2(Loyalty) + 15(Witchcraft) + (+10 from an Omake Reward from Turn 5) = 63
Anyway, let's just keep that in mind for now.
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10 individual Upgrades.
SA-55 Malus applies to 2 random Nationals in Turn 9, not to all of them.
The Egg Scientist can be assigned to only Brain and Logistic actions.
Study the Warp Topaz has a +10 from an Omake Reward from Turn 5, so the final bonus would be +63.
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Wait when did we get Starline to max loyalty? I mean it's great that we did, and that we can actually assign someone who has a chance of succeeding to the action, but how?
...Valid logic on using Starline, but I'm rather reasonably concerned that it will blow up in our face if we do use him. I do not want to have the artifiact that tears holes in space time to blow up.
I'd take the surer thing over possible intagible benefits. Though either way we'll be putting this off for awhile.
This would be ideal though yes. Though in the Lance's case I think any resulting mystic would have to wait until after we get a Valkur's biodata.
...On one hand that's a lot farther away than I thought. I'm not even sure Metal has 10 individual upgrades to take right now.
On the other hand NEO is going to be an absolute monster when we get him.