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It Belongs to a Museum

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Ergosum said:
I love how Lutr calls him Uncle Paht too. By implication, did everyone in Lahmia know him as 'uncle'? If so, that's cool and funny at the same time. All the Vampires are in a way his grandnephews and grandnieces, and I'm sure he's delighted to have such a large family.
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It's ambiguous. 'Uncle' was a common friendly term for an older man, even if unrelated, but some of Neferata's coterie would refer to him as such too.
 
Boney said:
It's hard to tell at first what has changed as you follow Luthor through the streets, as arrogance suffused the previous Luthor just as much as this one does, but it eventually occurs to you what you're looking at - this isn't just arrogance, this is cockiness. This is the confidence of someone who has never been humbled, who cannot even conceive of being humbled. This is someone who'd be convinced he'd live forever even if he wasn't a Vampire. This is Lutr of the Harkoni, a young warrior from a hill tribe west of Lahmia, yet to be recruited into Lahmia's navy and many years from even being considered for a position of authority that would get him recruited into Neferatem's coterie.
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This is a pretty interesting insight into Luthor's condition. He still has all his memories and skills, but he's missing his experiences, and by extension, his wisdom.

It's almost like his soul has regressed to that of a 20 year old, not that of a 4000 year old. And it keeps doing this, flitting back and forth throughout his lifespan.

This facet is probably quite easy to manipulate—young, cocky, naive, doesn't really comprehend that people may not act in his best interests. But when he wakes up tomorrow as someone more experienced and wiser, he'll remember all of that and realise he'd been tricked.
 
To some degree he's probably being deliberately a bit provocative/precocious in the way that a Young Men Who Are Convinced Of Their Own Immortality Even Without The Vampirism usually are, using a term of familiarity he hasn't actually earned as a sort of "dare you to do something about it." If Lutr The Harbor Master or whatever personality covers his early vampirism call him Uncle, (these are what I'm predicting are the ones where he'll actually recognize Pahtsekhen, as times in his life they actually would've interacted), then I'd guess he was actually part of the chunk of Neferata's bunch that said Uncle Paht.

Also, very much enjoying Boney's depiction of Being A Liche Priest.
 
Boney said:
It's ambiguous. 'Uncle' was a common friendly term for an older man, even if unrelated, but some of Neferata's coterie would refer to him as such too.
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This got me thinking, how would elder vampires think of Pahtsekhen more broadly? If he had been a different kind of man I could imagine him as the head of a traditionalist faction at court, as opposed to all the Nagash worship championed by Arkham and W'Soran. But then again if he had been a different kind of man odds are Neferata would probably have purged him rather than let him accumulate that faction. Later on though once it became clear just what Nagash thought of vampires and especially after the curses I could imagine a lot of those earely vampires looking back at Uncle Paht not as a quirky but ultimately obsolete relic of another age, but as someone with the forethought to see the danger ahead, in other words someone you would want on your side offering advice especially since he is himself not ambitious.
 
dpara said:
[X] The Salt Lord

I actually like the kidnapping part the most because getting visitors seems kinda hard, but this way we can get a wide cast of interesting characters *cough display pieces quickly xD
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Kidnapping people so that we can actually have some visitors sounds great. I didn't think of that. Sold.

- And here you can see the autographs left by our host famous guests.
- But they all are ransom notes!
- In guests own handwriting, yes.
[X] The Salt Lord
 
DragonParadox said:
This got me thinking, how would elder vampires think of Pahtsekhen more broadly? If he had been a different kind of man I could imagine him as the head of a traditionalist faction at court, as opposed to all the Nagash worship championed by Arkham and W'Soran. But then again if he had been a different kind of man odds are Neferata would probably have purged him rather than let him accumulate that faction. Later on though once it became clear just what Nagash thought of vampires and especially after the curses I could imagine a lot of those earely vampires looking back at Uncle Paht not as a quirky but ultimately obsolete relic of another age, but as someone with the forethought to see the danger ahead, in other words someone you would want on your side offering advice especially since he is himself not ambitious.
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The average opinion would probably be that he's a rubber ducky. Good company and a good listener, good to have around if you've got it but you're probably not going to miss it too terribly if you don't, it'll survive in waters that just about anything else will sink in but trying to cling onto it won't really help you.
 
Boney said:
The average opinion would probably be that he's a rubber ducky. Good company and a good listener, good to have around if you've got it but you're probably not going to miss it too terribly if you don't, it'll survive in waters that just about anything else will sink in but trying to cling onto it won't really help you.
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now i have the image of Neferata using Uncle Paht as a rubber ducky, and i mean like how programmers break down problems by talking at a rubber duck or simmilair to figure out why their code isn't working.

but well for magic, exceot here the rubber duck could also give usefull advice
 
Boney said:
I thought the 'revelation' in question was about Vulkan's vision about the nature of the Orks. If they're just saying that the person they're replying to needs to be conquered and forcibly converted to the religion of an entirely different setting, that's even more tedious, even less related to the topic at hand, and completely invalidates the benefit of the doubt I was extending.
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Atam the Ork said:
I thought they were referencing that time Vulkan's mind melded with the Beast's and he saw what the Beast was going to become.
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Revelation is commonly used to refer to the Emperor in 40k fanfic. And Gold (or the closest achievable color) is the conventional color for the Emperor's speech and magical effects, at least when the fanfic writers bother to color text in the first place. I don't have access to any 40k primary sources, I only read wikis and fanfic, but Revelation does show up as a title of the Emperor in both wikis I use, and it's common in fanfic on this site (and SB and QQ as well). So I don't think a 40k nerd here would use "Revelation" in gold to mean anything other than the Emperor.

And yeah, at the bare minimum its talking about a world revising its legal system to no longer give rights to non-humans because of a Imperial fleet in orbit that demands you do it as part of joining the Imperium. In the worse cases, that fleet might not even try to talk to you before it attacks.
 
[X] Princess Aelsabrim Fallenstar

DragonParadox said:
This got me thinking, how would elder vampires think of Pahtsekhen more broadly? If he had been a different kind of man I could imagine him as the head of a traditionalist faction at court, as opposed to all the Nagash worship championed by Arkham and W'Soran. But then again if he had been a different kind of man odds are Neferata would probably have purged him rather than let him accumulate that faction. Later on though once it became clear just what Nagash thought of vampires and especially after the curses I could imagine a lot of those earely vampires looking back at Uncle Paht not as a quirky but ultimately obsolete relic of another age, but as someone with the forethought to see the danger ahead, in other words someone you would want on your side offering advice especially since he is himself not ambitious.
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I suspect they see him as a generally benevolent neutral figure unless there were particular falling outs during the whole mess. Which, admittedly, is entirely possible vampires being vampires.

Though speaking of our rep one of the things I want to set up in the museum that isn't strictly speaking an exhibit is a meeting room. A nice little place for our old friends, students and the museum's doners to hang out in when they're in the area. Naturally, it's basically the Evil Council of Darkness both in ambiance and content.
 
It makes sense, considering that Harkon's first thought upon seeing a 4000 year old Liche Priest and master of Death magic walk into his throne room was not "let's recruit him as an advisor" or "let's recruit him as a powerful battle wizard for my navy", but "I'm going to give this guy a museum".
 
[X] The Tide of Skjold

[X] The Lamprey

[X] The Salt Lord

Originally I was gonna write this long thesis on why the Lamprey was the best option but then I came the the realization that I'm that I like all the options that don't involve those filthy knife ears.

Edit: just noticed the whole orc debacle. I want to clarify my hatred of elves does not extend that far. I just don't like them because most of them act like pompous pricks. No fantasizing about make-believe genocide here.
 
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Every option... I like every option... but these three I think I like the most.

[X] The Tide of Skjold
[X] Princess Aelsabrim Fallenstar
[X] Harbourmaster Tenebrel Reefwalker
 
[X] The Salt Lord

So here's the thing: this first crew is supposed to be our generalist acquisitions option, and while the Princess is highly memeable and Cylostra is excellent (I appalled that just because she isn't a princess, no one seems to be talking about giving this poor young woman of tremendous talent, just trying to live her best death and fulfill her dreams, some badly needed guidance and forbidden mystical lore), in terms broadly applicability and consistent usefulness, you can't deny that Flight Is OP.

If the bats can learn/be taught to pick up and carry a passenger, and learn/be taught to identify and carry away individuals meeting certain criteria (I.e how ransomable they look), then they can learn/be taught how to pick up and carry objects. We can airlift our acquisitions back to the ship from deeper inland or over unnavigable terrain.

Additionally, there is no need to rule out the other options if the figurehead is the main draw for you. With Bat Power on our side, then later on when things take a turn for a worse for Princess Fallenstar, we can assuredly kidnap extract her from the Citadel of Dusk to be brought under Uncle Lion Butt's benevolent wing full-time.
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
It makes sense, considering that Harkon's first thought upon seeing a 4000 year old Liche Priest and master of Death magic walk into his throne room was not "let's recruit him as an advisor" or "let's recruit him as a powerful battle wizard for my navy", but "I'm going to give this guy a museum".
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I mean, really it was more like his first thought upon seeing a 4000 year old liche priest and master of death magic walk into his throne room and ask to run a museum.
 
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